Will a title make Aaron Donald the best defensive player ever? - Skip & Shannon | NFL | UNDISPUTED

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Los Angeles Rams star Aaron Donald has racked up a lot of hardware in his trophy case, including three Defensive Player of the Year awards and multiple first-team All-Pros. But a Super Bowl trophy is still missing and Donald says that’s the only thing on his mind in the days leading up to the big game. Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless weigh in on how close Donald is to being the best defensive player ever.
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Will a title make Aaron Donald the best defensive player ever? - Skip & Shannon | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 2 жыл бұрын
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@shantoreywilkins651
@shantoreywilkins651 2 жыл бұрын
🏈🏉🏈🏉🏉🎯
@rickjames1766
@rickjames1766 2 жыл бұрын
Juno.
@jordanbrooks4916
@jordanbrooks4916 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon had too much henn😒😒😒
@happyface35
@happyface35 2 жыл бұрын
LT B. Smith White Lewis Peppers * *88 balls defended/batted, 44 forced fumbles, 175 tackles for loss, 159.5 sacks (77 different qbs),186 qb hits, 11int.. Perspective: all time leader in balls defended was CB champ baily with 203. Peppers had 88 and he played line +80% of the time... The fact that he was snubbed from NFL 100 team, is a complete failure... Peppers may just have been the #1 all around defensive player ever. Sorry Donald... Not yet my man. You got some work to do big fella.
@jayclark5034
@jayclark5034 2 жыл бұрын
@@happyface35 How many years did Peppers play? Answer: more than twice as long. Was Peppers great? Undoubtedly. Donald is approaching those numbers in less than 1/2 the time. Gretzky had much greater career numbers than Lemieux, but Lemieux had a 3-4 year run that no one has equaled. Who's better? Up for debate. We'll see with AD
@nathanmai409
@nathanmai409 2 жыл бұрын
Donald sometimes doesn’t fill the stat sheet but he is a menace. Teams game plan for him specifically for him. Definitely top 5
@atom5341
@atom5341 2 жыл бұрын
To further your point, when playing the rams Donald is the 1st and by far most extensive factor in opposing teams game plan. There is no way for a stat sheet to account for teammates stats as well as teams minimizing how often they pass the ball all because Donald. Stats won't show how many fewer deep balls a team will even attempt because they know the receivers won't have time to get down field. People often talk about Steph curry's "gravity" on the court, that is also the perfect way to describe someone like Donald. His presence permeates throughout the game in ways stats cannot show.
@kalenelliott6874
@kalenelliott6874 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He’s one of those guy that you have to watch the game to see the real impact that he has. He’s a nightmare for offenses
@tomdadon253
@tomdadon253 2 жыл бұрын
Facts I might not get hella tackle but he the reason the qb get hurried and throw pic AD IS A BAD MAN
@nassiglutt6587
@nassiglutt6587 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon right, at this point
@pacegravity7635
@pacegravity7635 2 жыл бұрын
And than they gotta worry about von Miller,Robinson and Leonard Floyd💀
@ZAchoustics514
@ZAchoustics514 2 жыл бұрын
Of course LT’s motor “ran hotter” than AD’s. LT was on coke. 🤣
@kmoney362
@kmoney362 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@EmmanuelTurner245225
@EmmanuelTurner245225 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kinggamers3396
@kinggamers3396 2 жыл бұрын
Cough.........Any given Sunday lol
@williamwatsoniii3895
@williamwatsoniii3895 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kinggamers3396
@kinggamers3396 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamwatsoniii3895 🤣🤣🤣🤣 LT wasn't acting on that movie .....he was himself
@Terror832
@Terror832 2 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Taylor is the last defensive player to have won MVP. Ray Lewis won DPOY and SB MVP in his 2000 season which he led one of the most suffocating defensive units of all time. My current Mount Rushmore for defensive players are Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis and Deion Sanders
@worldtree2027
@worldtree2027 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect Rushmore tbh. At the moment I think Donald is around Singletary or Lott level.
@fudgematthew33
@fudgematthew33 2 жыл бұрын
That's a legit list.
@derrickgadsden3863
@derrickgadsden3863 2 жыл бұрын
Very legit.
@kirkyearwood4350
@kirkyearwood4350 2 жыл бұрын
Reggie White, Deacon Jones, Deion Sanders, Lawrence Taylor and Aaron Donald
@charlesbullard4604
@charlesbullard4604 2 жыл бұрын
I’d wouldn’t put Deion up there unpopular opinion only bc he struggled covering the crossing route, and yes you have to tackle if you want to be on a Mt Rushmore for defensive players
@jerrybutler4460
@jerrybutler4460 2 жыл бұрын
I love when Shannon shares his knowledge of the game. Peak commentary
@crittoneida958
@crittoneida958 2 жыл бұрын
Right. Skip gives sack numbers in games for a DT who's job is to fight and beat double teams....like DT are supposed to get a bunch of sacks. The fact that he gets double digit sacks every year. There hasnt been another one to ever do that
@stevewalsh5668
@stevewalsh5668 2 жыл бұрын
@@crittoneida958 uhh yes there has
@crittoneida958
@crittoneida958 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevewalsh5668 yep. Kinda botched that one....white, Millard, randle, Sapp.....there have been others.....AD has more 10+ sack seasons tho.....
@jerrybutler4460
@jerrybutler4460 2 жыл бұрын
@@crittoneida958 agreed. It's harder to get sacks as a DT because the line of scrimmage congested in the middle as opposed to an edge rusher who has more space to operate. And Aaron Donald is STILL putting up edge rusher numbers. Surreal
@realspitter2727
@realspitter2727 2 жыл бұрын
30 year old Aaron Donald is a kid now…
@corbencarter-dixon5758
@corbencarter-dixon5758 2 жыл бұрын
“Joe Burrow is going to have 99 problems and AD is it.” -Shannon Sharpe
@ethanlora6054
@ethanlora6054 2 жыл бұрын
that was a bar
@hoytbell355
@hoytbell355 2 жыл бұрын
🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
@UglyMonsta
@UglyMonsta 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@breezonbrown4412
@breezonbrown4412 2 жыл бұрын
This aged like fine wine since AD CLOSED THE GAME
@duwayneengram9483
@duwayneengram9483 2 жыл бұрын
AD is all 99 of em. Lol
@sy12
@sy12 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re double teamed almost every play you’ve done your job BUT he also produces numbers. All time great no doubt. Before him and JJ d-tackles getting double digit sacks were fairly rare. John randle was one of favs growing up.
@Blank9458
@Blank9458 2 жыл бұрын
@Rell Mitchell he plays interior lineman tho
@one_of_wun
@one_of_wun 2 жыл бұрын
@Rell Mitchell he’s been a 3-4 DE most of his career, which essentially a interior lineman
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 2 жыл бұрын
LT the greatest defensive player period!
@justinalley3399
@justinalley3399 2 жыл бұрын
@@spenser6353 no
@Jahtrue
@Jahtrue 2 жыл бұрын
Warren Sapp no?
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon is at his best during these segments
@jamesnelson5618
@jamesnelson5618 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you now will admit Lebron is better than MJ If you think Shannon is at his moment of best during so many segments.
@spendsshanks6050
@spendsshanks6050 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesnelson5618 Lol not even close
@jamesnelson5618
@jamesnelson5618 2 жыл бұрын
@@spendsshanks6050 thank you I am glad you Knew about Exactly it will never Be True At all sometimes Shannon is Not Perfect but in the most part.
@hitek9too255
@hitek9too255 2 жыл бұрын
"He already got the cake, he just want the icing" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kristoffmalabver1421
@kristoffmalabver1421 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesnelson5618 u can’t judge because it’s his opinion
@Ghostkilla773
@Ghostkilla773 2 жыл бұрын
As a Bears fan, Khalil Mack fell completely off. There was once a time when people were debating who was the better player. Funny part is Leonard Floyd played with both of them in their primes
@anon-us2tu
@anon-us2tu 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but we got to consider that Khalil is on the bears
@TripleLayerLemonCake
@TripleLayerLemonCake 2 жыл бұрын
Khalil is the only pass rusher for the bears, that’s the issue with him aging badly. Still a good player but cannot produce as the only d linemen
@think4ward996
@think4ward996 2 жыл бұрын
@@TripleLayerLemonCake are you kidding me... Robert quin had a legendary season tf!?!?!
@eodico
@eodico 2 жыл бұрын
he was a sack a game player this season until his injury
@think4ward996
@think4ward996 2 жыл бұрын
@@TripleLayerLemonCake mack played injured but he is not Aaron donald
@AP-yc4yz
@AP-yc4yz 2 жыл бұрын
Donald’s value doesn’t always show up on paper he’s a DT
@theALMIGHTY987
@theALMIGHTY987 2 жыл бұрын
TJ Watt 🤔?
@Glacien3
@Glacien3 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Glacien3
@Glacien3 2 жыл бұрын
@@theALMIGHTY987 he is 3-4 defensive end
@theALMIGHTY987
@theALMIGHTY987 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glacien3 What does that mean🤔? Listen I like Donald but I've seen Watt win games for the Steelers....he got robbed for DPOY!!!
@Blank9458
@Blank9458 2 жыл бұрын
@@theALMIGHTY987 he plays on the edge he’s basically always getting 1v1
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 2 жыл бұрын
If Rams win like 20-17 and Stafford and Kupp dont have big numbers and Donald has like 2.5 Sacks, 2 TFL, 5 QB Hits he will MVP.
@bobbymeade2099
@bobbymeade2099 2 жыл бұрын
Defensive Lineman rarely get the recognition they deserve. Cliff Avril should have been the MVP in SB 48, but they gave it to Malcom Butler (whose Int was a tip by Avril). He was also the MVP in SB 49 until the concussion.
@XxXSiLeNtKiLL3RXxX
@XxXSiLeNtKiLL3RXxX 2 жыл бұрын
Well duh??? Lmao that's a lot of factors tho, won't happen
@drewduenas6699
@drewduenas6699 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that would be a sight to see whens the last time a defensive player on SB MVP
@playlistiphone8743
@playlistiphone8743 2 жыл бұрын
in your scenario, Stafford doesn’t need big numbers. He can have the game winning drive with Rams walking off with FG
@trentripley.3823
@trentripley.3823 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbymeade2099 Malcom butler didn’t win the Super Bowl mvp Brady did that game
@zerbyjay777
@zerbyjay777 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite sports analyst show. The banter between Shannon and skip is legendary. Love you guys.
@turkishdelight6032
@turkishdelight6032 2 жыл бұрын
Most fans, and even some "analysts" fail to acknowledge the fact that Donald is an interior defensive linemen. He is such an efficient pass rusher despite having a high double team rate
@CoachRJ334
@CoachRJ334 2 жыл бұрын
My son idolize his game off Aaron Donald..... Not the biggest not the tallest but damn sure the baddest..... AD top 5 for sure
@VaanRavi
@VaanRavi 2 жыл бұрын
AD is one of the biggest....
@obe99
@obe99 2 жыл бұрын
@@VaanRavi not really he 6’0 285 not really ideal for a dt. You want them to be 6’2-6’4and closer to 300 lbs if not more. And he still a beast
@CoachRJ334
@CoachRJ334 2 жыл бұрын
@@VaanRavi no he's not he's 6'1 275 hes just built but he's is not the biggest.... He's just an elite guy
@juanl.thompson542
@juanl.thompson542 2 жыл бұрын
@@VaanRavi myles garret 6'4 tj watt 6'4 nick bosa 6'4 most great defensive players 6'3 and up
@mattthaghost9192
@mattthaghost9192 2 жыл бұрын
That's cuz AD learned it from the first one to do it and that was John Randal a guy that wasn't given any opportunity to play cuz he was too small in the NFL until he came to the Vikings. He revolutionized the DT position that proved smaller DTs can be a superstar cuz back in those days u had to be a big guy to play at that position. AD is great but there are alot of great defensive players that played that were on some other level.
@lance.da.legend9837
@lance.da.legend9837 2 жыл бұрын
Dude had 84 tackles as an interior d lineman...dude is top five defensive player all time
@Jaccobtw
@Jaccobtw 2 жыл бұрын
Because he is not obesed. He is pure strength
@bgstv10001
@bgstv10001 2 жыл бұрын
I wish i can disagree with you but i can't i can name 3 top of my head i put over Donald but he probably top 3 of all time
@lance.da.legend9837
@lance.da.legend9837 2 жыл бұрын
@@bgstv10001 Lawrence Taylor..and Reggie white the only ones I can say forsure we're better
@bgstv10001
@bgstv10001 2 жыл бұрын
@@lance.da.legend9837 me i put Ray Lewis, LT, Ed Reed, Reggie White and Deion Sanders it's real tough
@theALMIGHTY987
@theALMIGHTY987 2 жыл бұрын
@@lance.da.legend9837 No TJ Watt love 🤔.....I've seen this man win games for the Steelers!
@qd8973
@qd8973 2 жыл бұрын
He Will Be Top 3 with a Title, But Like Shannon said He's already top 5.
@theALMIGHTY987
@theALMIGHTY987 2 жыл бұрын
One 🏆🤔? INTERESTING!!
@playlistiphone8743
@playlistiphone8743 2 жыл бұрын
who are the other 4?
@austinnherrera6272
@austinnherrera6272 2 жыл бұрын
@@playlistiphone8743 just my opinion but LT, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, Deion Sanders
@playlistiphone8743
@playlistiphone8743 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinnherrera6272 ok to have an opinion. So let me get this straight: Your building a defense and you have to chose between Dieon and Aaron Donald. You would pick Dieon?
@austinnherrera6272
@austinnherrera6272 2 жыл бұрын
@@playlistiphone8743 I easily can see how one would pick Donald to start a defense and I’ll even give that do you. Donald is a monster bottom line and definitely has potential to be the best defensive player to ever play
@theonlyone261
@theonlyone261 2 жыл бұрын
People also forget he plays on the interior. the difficulty on that alone is something that gets dismissed.
@detricehill7530
@detricehill7530 2 жыл бұрын
wakpg
@hitek9too255
@hitek9too255 2 жыл бұрын
Reggie White had 21 sacks in 12 games. That's insane!
@TalootB
@TalootB 2 жыл бұрын
I won't lie deion clothes was clean the entire game 😂😂
@jbtreshawn
@jbtreshawn 2 жыл бұрын
Running wind sprints😂😂😂
@zlewis3355
@zlewis3355 2 жыл бұрын
Yep 🤣🤣
@brockjensen2473
@brockjensen2473 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to hear Shannon read AD’s stat lines since he entered the league knowing damn and well he’s double teamed every play not to mention a RB in the back field waiting for AD to beat that double team and even with 2 often times 3 blockers on him he still gets to the QB the most. By A CRAZY margin. AD is one of the 4 most impactful players to a single team in nfl history you could argue for even top 3 maybe even 2
@blackcobra1981
@blackcobra1981 2 жыл бұрын
"Joe Burrow is going to have 99 problems and AD is it" 🤣
@FireballStylist
@FireballStylist 2 жыл бұрын
You know it!!!!!! Agreed 100%!!!!!👍😉
@avejaly8065
@avejaly8065 2 жыл бұрын
That aged well
@bobbymeade2099
@bobbymeade2099 2 жыл бұрын
I hate seeing people try to compare a LB to a DT. DTs do the dirty work that only football players (or aficionados something Skip thinks he is) can really appreciate. LBs are flashy and even casual fans can see what they do.
@spendsshanks6050
@spendsshanks6050 2 жыл бұрын
Ok? But Donald still isn’t better than LT
@justinalley3399
@justinalley3399 2 жыл бұрын
@@spendsshanks6050 yes he is LT couldnt stop the run like donald
@interceptingfist5682
@interceptingfist5682 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinalley3399 lol you probably never even seen LT play. 🤣
@robertcourson8002
@robertcourson8002 2 жыл бұрын
Lol skip is 70 and has forgotten more football than you have ever known.
@jimmytwotimes1940
@jimmytwotimes1940 2 жыл бұрын
@@interceptingfist5682 LT had some of the best defenses of all time around him; so he wasn't doubled/tripled as much as Donald. He was also an OLB, so he SHOULD have more sacks than an interior DT... yet, AD's numbers are about the same. AD > LT
@justinmj6586
@justinmj6586 2 жыл бұрын
Best of his generation, best interior D lineman since Sapp and a first ballot HOFer. Forget the hyperbole. You just cant be better than LT, Ray Lewis, Reggie and Prime.
@trupimp2211
@trupimp2211 2 жыл бұрын
Already better than Ray. Won’t argue with LT or Reggie. Plays a different position than prime.
@Elusivve
@Elusivve 2 жыл бұрын
AD in his prime is better then anyone, AD > LT
@tredaviousbowser7931
@tredaviousbowser7931 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elusivve I’m a rams fan but he’s just not. AD is behind LT, Deion, Reggie, and Lewis and AD interchangeable
@realspitter2727
@realspitter2727 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t be why? You d riding?
@redskinsxvii
@redskinsxvii 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elusivve Nope LT won MVP in a league with Marino, Montana, Elway, Kelly playing QB. He changed the game. There's nothing lazier than when people go oh he was just a pass rusher, no he was tremendous everywhere we just talk about his pass rushing because it was off the charts in a league where teams threw the ball way way less than today.
@evanpenn1
@evanpenn1 2 жыл бұрын
When you watched Giants games in the LT era, you actually felt fear for the opposing QB. He was all anyone was thinking about. And when LT would take over the game, it was electrifying.
@shanaeverowe9626
@shanaeverowe9626 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair if the rules were the same as back then I think Donald would put equal fear
@spendsshanks6050
@spendsshanks6050 Жыл бұрын
@@shanaeverowe9626 Nah
@calvincalvin3132
@calvincalvin3132 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think a title would make any difference. He's the consensus best defensive player in the NFL for the last 4 years if not more
@Elusivve
@Elusivve 2 жыл бұрын
He’s already number 1 even without a title
@dvdnj78
@dvdnj78 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elusivve Of all time?
@VisceralCarbon
@VisceralCarbon 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdnj78 player* all time
@playlistiphone8743
@playlistiphone8743 2 жыл бұрын
exactly! even his peers voted him best player
@Lo.4zz
@Lo.4zz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elusivve he’s not #1 of all time but he’s up there
@BrendonChase2012
@BrendonChase2012 2 жыл бұрын
LT's motor ran really hot, but he was using some special fuel!
@losangeleslakers1650
@losangeleslakers1650 2 жыл бұрын
😂 let's not talk about that lol .
@BrendonChase2012
@BrendonChase2012 2 жыл бұрын
Then again, so did the entire decade!
@jackjackson811
@jackjackson811 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the GREAT Justice Alan Page always gets forgotten in greatest players of all time convos.
@SuperAllenwill
@SuperAllenwill 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Deacon Jones play. Changed the game.
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 2 жыл бұрын
you going way back lol
@matthewgulley9725
@matthewgulley9725 2 жыл бұрын
You old asf bucko
@interceptingfist5682
@interceptingfist5682 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgulley9725 that just means his opinions are more valid. Most kids don't know anyone passed 1999 these days
@16goodchickenwings
@16goodchickenwings 2 жыл бұрын
He’s done it for 8 consecutive seasons without injury or missing major time. Super Bowl would make him top 5 for sure
@KD-de1iw
@KD-de1iw 2 жыл бұрын
99 problems 😭😭😭
@manuelcantu7449
@manuelcantu7449 2 жыл бұрын
White, Sanders , Smith , Lewis, and Taylor are the ones that I remember from MY ERA
@Michael_Page
@Michael_Page 2 жыл бұрын
All beasts. I like the the love for Sanders. If a guy today could actually shut down a side of the field like Prime could, football analysts would lose their minds.
@magicalmixer5453
@magicalmixer5453 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael_Page Probably the closest we got is Darrelle Revis, but even he isn't close to Prime's influence.
@Michael_Page
@Michael_Page 2 жыл бұрын
@@magicalmixer5453 The Revis Island era was fun, but yeah, nothing like (coach) Prime.
@robertwright9901
@robertwright9901 2 жыл бұрын
And Michael Strahan on that list?
@sportsjunkie4733
@sportsjunkie4733 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely can make an argument that Aaron Donald is top 5.. When teams drafting DT’s they looking for Aaron Donald’s.. Just like when teams drafting at CB they looking for Deion sanders type players or drafting pass rushers they looking for LT, Bruce smith or Reggie white type of players. Aaron Donald is in that tier now He’s the standard in today’s game.
@reggiemeeks4339
@reggiemeeks4339 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point once you become standard for that position your goated 🐐
@evanpenn1
@evanpenn1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Rams fan, but LT is still on top. The eye test favors LT over anyone who ever played.
@johnblaze5252
@johnblaze5252 2 жыл бұрын
And as a NYG fan I will give the devil his due . There was a time when Kevin Green was just about as unstoppable as anyone who played the game.
@shaydawg8415
@shaydawg8415 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but that's about it. Everyone after that is interchangeable including AD
@ricoperson4035
@ricoperson4035 2 жыл бұрын
You guys obviously don't know football because for a dt to do what he's doing is unheard-of. Easier for an edge rusher to create havoc.
@johnblaze5252
@johnblaze5252 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricoperson4035 🤡
@trollkenobi6727
@trollkenobi6727 Жыл бұрын
@@ricoperson4035 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@brandonb8807
@brandonb8807 2 жыл бұрын
3/4th of the way through and I'm waiting for Skip to pull out his: "to my eye test..." 😂 Shannon had this from jump
@jamesmcclain4588
@jamesmcclain4588 2 жыл бұрын
Or every subject he brings up a cowgirls game like they were the team to beat
@aj1875
@aj1875 2 жыл бұрын
To say he's the best defensive player imo is crazy, there's just too many to say that
@lightsoutdso
@lightsoutdso 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Willis MLB SF 49ers would have been #1 (for me) if he stayed atleast another 2-3 years BUT he's a genius too leave waaaay before any decline
@indiangawd2177
@indiangawd2177 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you said FOR YOU🤣🤣🤣🤣
@AMAXReacts
@AMAXReacts 2 жыл бұрын
All the years Aaron Donald has played in the league, it's been a handicap for the offense(from a rules standpoint), making Donald's accomplishments even more impressive.
@trueempire8948
@trueempire8948 2 жыл бұрын
Best defensive player of all time is number 56 NY Giants Lawrence Taylor (LT)
@mouadalr6924
@mouadalr6924 2 жыл бұрын
Linebacker
@lonewolf5973
@lonewolf5973 2 жыл бұрын
Be quiet fake Rams fan
@spendsshanks6050
@spendsshanks6050 2 жыл бұрын
@@mouadalr6924 Nah just D player period
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 2 жыл бұрын
@@mouadalr6924 LT the greatest defensive player period!
@mouadalr6924
@mouadalr6924 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, the dude made a mistake in the comment and said "defensive lineman" ,I corrected him and said linebacker lol i know LT is goat
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 2 жыл бұрын
He's definitely one of the best ever! Dude is a BOSS
@MaximillianDeBeni
@MaximillianDeBeni 2 жыл бұрын
Skip made some amazing points with the LT and Charles Haley comparisons, AD’s motor just doesn’t run as hot as those guys did.
@jordanochoa6046
@jordanochoa6046 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon sharp is my favorite dude on this show
@stevencrawford6924
@stevencrawford6924 2 жыл бұрын
It becomes a non debatable point to me when they talk about how much this man has been double teamed and still putting up hall of fame numbers. It’s not even close in my mind.
@zacwoods
@zacwoods 2 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Taylor is the only player in NFL history to put legitimate FEAR into offensive players’ heads. Aaron Donald is great but he isnt LT. He just isnt. And mind you LT has an MVP AND 2 rings. Aaron Ronald has a lot of ground to cover. One superbowl isnt going to make this a legit argument.
@jcjourney2406
@jcjourney2406 2 жыл бұрын
Donald got 20 sacks as DT the year Patrick Mahomes threw 50 tds and everyone was on his nuts. but we all know who should've been MVP that year.
@stevencrawford6924
@stevencrawford6924 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacwoods yea and that was back when you could absolutely VIOLATE quarterbacks. If these quarterbacks had to worry about AD doing those things to them they would be JUST AS SCARED. Quarterbacks are Protected by the league more than the damn pentagon nowadays. That’s a horrible argument. And LT won the MVP. I can’t do anything but give kudos to that. But I don’t care about team achievements like Super Bowls when we are talking about best individual players.
@willseest3732
@willseest3732 2 жыл бұрын
Other players have faced the same amount
@redskinsxvii
@redskinsxvii 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevencrawford6924 Agreed comparing eras is so hard. The fear thing is partly rules though LT was also a mean MFer on the field.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
Like Shannon said he's already top 5
@teddyscarborough2606
@teddyscarborough2606 2 жыл бұрын
Raiders of the mid 70s and Dolphins of early 70s was also very Great. Shell ,Dalby, Upshaw of Raiders. Kuchenberg,Langer, Larry Little of Dolphins
@avejaly8065
@avejaly8065 2 жыл бұрын
he was before and is NOW officially. Congrats to the Super bowl 💍🏈🏈
@fellowamerican7923
@fellowamerican7923 2 жыл бұрын
My Defensive Mt. Rushmore 🗿(Top 5) Deion Sanders, LT (NYG) Ronnie Lott, Bruce Smith (No Order)… then I have a few players I just can’t choose from 🤦‍♂️, below in No order ⬇️ Ray Lewis, Mike Singletary, Reggie White, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Mean Joe Green, maybe D-Revis?? 🤷‍♂️
@jonbedker5229
@jonbedker5229 2 жыл бұрын
NFL Mount Rushmore (top 4) Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Jim Brown and Lawrence Taylor.
@James-yf7vy
@James-yf7vy 2 жыл бұрын
Dude,.. Mean Joe Green, Reggie White should have NEVER been on the " I just can't choose from list" from the start🤪🙄🤔😡
@fellowamerican7923
@fellowamerican7923 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-yf7vy I understand you, but try to understand me. Mean Joe Green I watched a ton on KZbin & ESPN highlights. Example - Tomorrow’s generation will think Cooper Kupp is honestly BETTER than Jerry Rice 😳😔 // I love Reggie White too, but I did list Bruce Smith, the man played almost 20 yrs + he played a lot in a 3-4 Defense, yet still had 200 Sacks 🤦🏻‍♂️ that’s UnReal!!! Reggie played in a 4-3 defense, so he had more lineman Help
@pridyboi
@pridyboi 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Deion... Best coverage corner EVER fo sho! However he couldn't tackle a paper bag. In heavy run 1st Era his weakness couldn't be masked. He got trucked by Dave Brown (trash NYG QB)smfh. Ray & Reggie 4 & 5 for me.
@25nahshon
@25nahshon 2 жыл бұрын
As far as defensive linemen go, Aaron Donald is definitely up there with the best. Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Deacon Jones, Michael Strahan were all considered the best, and now you have to mention Aaron Donald in the conversation with them.
@YounginBallin
@YounginBallin 2 жыл бұрын
U forgot LT
@ikristian13d20
@ikristian13d20 2 жыл бұрын
@@YounginBallin LT was a OLB though. I would say with a SB he is top 3 and w/ a sb mvp i would say top 2. If he plays at this level for another 2 - 3 years then he has a legit chance to be #1 and at worst #2 regardless what happens on Sunday
@dupreehundo3070
@dupreehundo3070 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot warren sapp
@25nahshon
@25nahshon 2 жыл бұрын
@@dupreehundo3070 no I didn't. Sapp was great, but he wasn't on their level. Each one of the individuals that I listed had to be game planned around. You didn't have to change your entire system because of Sapp.
@lyrics2challenged
@lyrics2challenged 2 жыл бұрын
Vita Vea is super underrated. Teams also scheme for him very simply: 2-4 men on him, no less lmao. The way that man disrupts a whole line or 3/5 AND the backfield by literally going straight forward is stupid crazy. And he can reach left or right for a tackle deceptively fast. Talking about a man who it's rare to see push back less than 2 other full grown men. Minimum. It's insane. I think next year, he could maybe take a leap and be considered a top 5 defensive PLAYER in the league today. Pretty sure he's already the only or one of the only NTs isn't he?
@abdull-wakil54
@abdull-wakil54 2 жыл бұрын
He truly is all that and some - I always keep my eyes on him "always"
@nathanklemick8351
@nathanklemick8351 2 жыл бұрын
Donald got his ring! Hope he comes back to try and run it again
@daniellindquist7464
@daniellindquist7464 2 жыл бұрын
Eagles o line keeps Aaron Donald pretty quiet too. Regardless, best DT I've watched
@seagk1343
@seagk1343 2 жыл бұрын
Kelce is a beast and I credit a lot of Hurts’ success to having him in front of him
@MM-it2tn
@MM-it2tn 2 жыл бұрын
Ed reed will always be my favorite defensive player
@robertwright9901
@robertwright9901 2 жыл бұрын
And Warren Sapp?
@dj-savi1528
@dj-savi1528 2 жыл бұрын
He is most def top 5 all time.
@Ken-bj5wb
@Ken-bj5wb 2 жыл бұрын
Easily
@kashpaablo3580
@kashpaablo3580 2 жыл бұрын
Not even close I can name 5 players who if they started with aron Donald he wouldn't even be close
@lanticcitynoruber140
@lanticcitynoruber140 2 жыл бұрын
@@kashpaablo3580 who
@sheldonforeman6941
@sheldonforeman6941 2 жыл бұрын
Is he top 1?
@billbates5475
@billbates5475 2 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Taylor hands down. NO ONE dominated, took over a game like he did. Donald has not done what LT has done.
@joshuadarrington.
@joshuadarrington. 2 жыл бұрын
are you still saying that? lol
@SirGenesis206
@SirGenesis206 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like defensive players don’t need rings for validation unless they win MVP or really dominated the game. I don’t think I would move him up or down the list much for this one game. I could be wrong though.
@jerromimuckle139
@jerromimuckle139 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kalithechamp1412
@kalithechamp1412 2 жыл бұрын
The reason he “flashed more” is not only based on talent, or scheme, it’s largely based on who is across the line with him....Vaughn Miller is one of those names. It was the same with Charles, as it was wit Damaracus Lawrence. You can be a good player, but when you’re the only good player on the line it’s easy for you to disappear(depending on level of talent dictates level of transparency) As soon as you have a person who the offense has to pay a smidgit of legit attention to along side your star; the good players become great, and the great become UNSTOPPABLE!
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 2 жыл бұрын
Here after 99 ended the Super Bowl much like he ended the NFC Championship Game...winning the game by getting to the QB when it mattered most. Top 5 All Time, Offense or Defense. May be the greatest defensive player of all time.
@MuckNoya
@MuckNoya 2 жыл бұрын
Facts he has at least 3 good years left
@coreyworkman3954
@coreyworkman3954 2 жыл бұрын
When suh was there they had to double block two players because both have to be double blocked
@cedricraywilliams
@cedricraywilliams 2 жыл бұрын
He's a short, small, quick and strong DT. The NFL experts preach Leverage, Leverage Leverage but keep signing 6'6 linemen. A good 6 ft, 6-1, 300-315lb guard would make life easy going against Donald. Low man wins most of the time.
@spencershefa6692
@spencershefa6692 2 жыл бұрын
People who are 6ft and 300lb that have any sort of athleticism is very rare. Not many exist and are good enough to play in the NFL.
@teacherl8330
@teacherl8330 2 жыл бұрын
LT had a high-octane motor but Aaron Darnold has the ninja focus.
@sunshinegorilla8426
@sunshinegorilla8426 2 жыл бұрын
“HE’S LEGIT!”😂
@abdulawal3363
@abdulawal3363 2 жыл бұрын
This aged well 😭
@alex-og.zalez9403
@alex-og.zalez9403 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between AD and the other great pass rushers is, aside from Warren Sapp, they are basically all edge rushers. The fact he's doing what he does at DT is what makes him a top 5 pass rusher all time.
@elbowgang9715
@elbowgang9715 2 жыл бұрын
Reggie White and Bruce Smith were amazing against the run wtf are u talking about?
@alex-og.zalez9403
@alex-og.zalez9403 2 жыл бұрын
@@elbowgang9715 did you even read what I wrote before commenting? They were both edge rushers, which is what I said. Learn to read.
@nathanklemick8351
@nathanklemick8351 2 жыл бұрын
@@alex-og.zalez9403 people like to shoot their mouths to quick without reading lmao scrubs
@hydromonky
@hydromonky 2 жыл бұрын
AD is the best swimming pass rusher ever. No contest. He's had a countless amount of plays where he is just not touched at all. But AD's run defense and presence is what drops him for me. He just doesn't take up enough space and hold multiple olinemen in place like a prime Cox, Snacks, or Suh. Still top 20 all-time though.
@NotExplicable
@NotExplicable 2 жыл бұрын
Top 5 given the restrictions on defenders. Pocket pressure is one of the most important things since the rise of QB importance, taking up an excessive amount of cap space.
@dev_taco
@dev_taco 2 жыл бұрын
In this offense centric NFL I have to say Arron Donald is playing with rules set against him and he is still putting up these types of numbers. Shannon is right top 5 for sure.
@mrjonsey
@mrjonsey 2 жыл бұрын
The rules are set against DBs, not DL really. He just has to rush the passer and tackle RBs. This also helps him, more offensive plays, more tackles, more sacks, etc etc.
@EmmanuelTurner245225
@EmmanuelTurner245225 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrjonsey Have you not been watching football the past two seasons? Anything more aggressive than a mild push to sack the QB is going to be a penalty.
@Elusivve
@Elusivve 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrjonsey Also the offensive linemen are more athletic and bigger in this era
@mrjonsey
@mrjonsey 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmmanuelTurner245225 that’s when you get to the QB, his actual job hasn’t changed because of the rules, they just cant hit QBs below the knee and on the head but it’s not like they told them they have to play with one hand behind their backs or something.
@mrjonsey
@mrjonsey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elusivve That’s true, but these dudes start much earlier now in their careers. Back then guys weren’t going to skills camps and AAU circuits
@santiagobuenos9673
@santiagobuenos9673 2 жыл бұрын
Think he might have a case being the best linemen ever but LT/Sanders are in a category of their own.
@tigerscott5929
@tigerscott5929 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Donald is really that dude. He's already regarded as top 5 player in the league. Not just defensively, but altogether. What does that tell you about how great he really is as a defender? In a QB centered and offense centered league. If he's regarded the way he is by fans and peers the way he is now and he's only 30, I think he just might retire as the greatest defender to ever play the game. This is one of those guys who even if you come up with the best and most positive adjectives to describe his greatness, you're probably still selling him short.
@patrickmccray8703
@patrickmccray8703 2 жыл бұрын
Sessshhhh I remember they used to talk about jj watt like this
@veelowmuymalo7258
@veelowmuymalo7258 2 жыл бұрын
What a surprise no matter what the topic is Skip has to bring up the 90s cowboys
@bighomie8133
@bighomie8133 2 жыл бұрын
Some consider LT as the greatest football player ever. That's including some of the best QB's ever.
@m-eazye930
@m-eazye930 2 жыл бұрын
L.T. is the greatest player in the history of the game. He is top dog everybody is wherever you put them
@sheldonforeman6941
@sheldonforeman6941 2 жыл бұрын
honestly that's a pretty decent argument. everybody praising AD but I just want to see someone come out and say he's better than LT, but they'd be committed to a psych ward.
@howarddukes9270
@howarddukes9270 2 жыл бұрын
“Lt motor rain higher I felt like” yea skip dude was on every drug possible 😭
@eli6797
@eli6797 2 жыл бұрын
Not only do the stats show it, but the D-line/o-line has to be the only 2 position groups where stats don’t show everything. Even tho jimmy G probably wasn’t going to clutch that win, you see why pressures from him are game changing, and that last play didn’t even go in the stat book. He’s a literal freak of nature
@williamburney3166
@williamburney3166 2 жыл бұрын
He's top 5 with or without a Superbowl ring but certainly not number #1 that spot belongs to Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White is arguably number 2 and Ray Lewis is also ahead of Donald
@kingofhisworld1
@kingofhisworld1 2 жыл бұрын
@william Burney reggie white is my hero! I miss him so much.
@frankburn6312
@frankburn6312 2 жыл бұрын
Lt, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, Bruce Smith,Aaron Donald.
@williamburney3166
@williamburney3166 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankburn6312 I agree with that 👍
@frankburn6312
@frankburn6312 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamburney3166 there’s primetime to put in there as well. I would put him 4th , moving Smith the 5th and Donald to 6
@williamburney3166
@williamburney3166 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankburn6312 I'm a Cowboys fan so you know that I'm fine with putting Deion in the top 5, but you certainly could debate Donald vs Bruce Smith, because remember Aaron Donald is one of only 2 players to ever win 3 defensive player of the year awards
@keithjenkins6034
@keithjenkins6034 2 жыл бұрын
If I ever go to jail, I want "Hall Of Famer Shannon Sharpe" as my defender
@pbsimmons2303
@pbsimmons2303 2 жыл бұрын
For a BJ I'm sure you would
@keithjenkins6034
@keithjenkins6034 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbsimmons2303 huh
@keithjenkins6034
@keithjenkins6034 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbsimmons2303 oh, you are a homosexual. I get it now
@MiGAZi
@MiGAZi 2 жыл бұрын
That 0:50 camera shot lowkey gave me chills....
@jblaze600
@jblaze600 2 жыл бұрын
AD on that Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White HOF & legend trajectory. He just needs the title to back it up.
@jonathanprycejr.7555
@jonathanprycejr.7555 2 жыл бұрын
As a Seahawks fan, I’ll see Donald disappear in our games a lot....until he doesn’t then you regret forgetting about him😭
@So_Oneal
@So_Oneal 2 жыл бұрын
Now watch the naysayers change the narrative with the quickness since AD made them eat crow the biggest stage....
@charlessims409
@charlessims409 2 жыл бұрын
Lt Smith White Haley Reed I probably gotta go that 5 that I’ve seen myself…Ad is good but he’ll go some games without being noticed especially the ones that count most. Feel like the other 5 had greater impacts on winning moments.
@Wraith3100
@Wraith3100 2 жыл бұрын
Skip with the Jigga reference
@BrutusJrThe3rd
@BrutusJrThe3rd 2 жыл бұрын
“He’s top 5 already.” Facts. Been top 5 for a minute.
@lloydbonafide3398
@lloydbonafide3398 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the media tries to say LT is the best player ever but are quick to bring up the subject of Donald being the best defensive player ever.
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 2 жыл бұрын
whats your point? I dont get it.
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean
@QMN8125
@QMN8125 2 жыл бұрын
“”99 problems and AD is it” ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn unc dropping 💎
@braylo9209
@braylo9209 2 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Taylor was on that blue magic 🪄
@knight7se7en
@knight7se7en 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Shannon didn’t mention Ray Lewis on the list of all time defensive players 🤔 especially since he played with him
@terrancewilliams4552
@terrancewilliams4552 2 жыл бұрын
What more does he have to prove skip?
@nostalgiacorner1999
@nostalgiacorner1999 2 жыл бұрын
Show up in important moments. Was invisible in 2019 superbowl
@VisceralCarbon
@VisceralCarbon 2 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgiacorner1999 cmon now, those Olines completely shifted their guys to AD almost every play lol
@Kalinbuggs
@Kalinbuggs 2 жыл бұрын
@@VisceralCarbon well on that Gronk play. AD was single. he even said "my bad guys that's on me"
@sheldonforeman6941
@sheldonforeman6941 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the segment is about him becoming the best defensive player ever, so I'd say he has a decent amount more to prove
@a.a677
@a.a677 2 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgiacorner1999 he was triple teamed and had a rib injury
@OfficialSwisher
@OfficialSwisher 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Willis, Troy Polamalu, Those old Steelers, Bears defense players, Ravens defenders, Deion, LT. etc. yea. I'd say top 10 is more likely
@LilShawtyWood
@LilShawtyWood 2 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Taylor and Mel Blount GOATED!
@tjones617
@tjones617 2 жыл бұрын
Stop comparing players from different era's. The game is not the same
@TheAlexJimenez
@TheAlexJimenez 2 жыл бұрын
Others have put up numbers like this, and in games that actually matter. The part y’all aren’t realizing is they didn’t throw it every play like they do now. They threw it a lot less and these guys still did that. Also there weren’t salary caps or trades back then. Look at the best offensive lines ever. They are all from back then. 90’s or before. Before the salary caps started. Better lines and less opportunities is a huge disadvantage.
@RohnnyBravo
@RohnnyBravo 2 жыл бұрын
Ed Reed in that convo
@zickykane5206
@zickykane5206 2 жыл бұрын
AD showed the world tonight who he was. And that is a world Champion, and one of the best EVER.
@raypurchase155
@raypurchase155 2 жыл бұрын
Charles Haley isn’t on the same planet as Aaron Donald. Skip is way too biased
@kaleasecarter9499
@kaleasecarter9499 2 жыл бұрын
The only difference between the two is LT used to be on that powder so that's why it looked a whole lot different
@daviddavis9835
@daviddavis9835 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody who REALLY knows football knows he's a top 5 player all time defensively. Like Shannon said if he keeps doing what he's doing for another 3-5 years he'll be a top 5 player regardless of position. All you gotta do is look at his tape. Amazing.
@lamarjackson707
@lamarjackson707 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all be reaching with this best of all time this super bowl would not put him up there
@douglaswalker7707
@douglaswalker7707 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I don't think he's eveb one to Deon at all, even if he wins the supers bowl, because a lot of the time when they needed him to show him Donald doesn't especially against the packers got shut down by a back up oline, and if he performs EXTREMELY well this super then maybe, but I really don't see his ype at all at least in comparison to the greats
@blaqueazzme
@blaqueazzme 2 жыл бұрын
He's a non factor in some games and he's top 5? Yeah reaching with a 🧢 on.
@douglaswalker7707
@douglaswalker7707 2 жыл бұрын
@@blaqueazzme in the biggest games he wasn't, he's been performing pretty well yhia play offs, but some of the biggest games I'm talking about are primarily against the packers, last 2 years he was shut down by either David or backup oline in post or regular season, but I just want him to be consistently great I'm the games that matter, and he hasn't
@Kalinbuggs
@Kalinbuggs 2 жыл бұрын
wayyyy harder to get a sack as an DT
@bigimportantman1544
@bigimportantman1544 2 жыл бұрын
Gawd damn. I didn’t realize AD had those stats.
@talkingbroccoli
@talkingbroccoli 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is a lot of people don’t get the part about Donald’s impact on teammates. Littleton, Floyd, Fowler, Clay Matthews, and now Von Miller looked/look far better next to Donald than everyone else. Basically attribute part of their stats to Donald.
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