Will Age of Mythology Retold Kill AoE4?

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[@FitzBro]

It's obvious who only watched the first 5 minutes in this comment section 😂.

[@manuelbenvenuto9002]

five or less haha

[@JimCullen]

Most people leave comments based on the title. Heck, I know I did, although my comment was responding more to the title _itself_ than the content the title implied. It's all engagement for the algorithm!

[@silverlance6960]

you know what you are doin mate

[@bananatheseus4516]

I have played AoM for 8 years now.. it has never bored me

[@unkn0wnrge189]

I play maybe for 20 years, still love it.

[@RancorSnp]

Honestly? I don't think so. I think AoE4 and AoM have vastly different audiences. I think most AoM players do not care about AoE4 enough to play it so this part of the community wasn't playing it in the first place. There's probably going to be some players that will make the move, but for the most part I feel like these are two separate playerbases

[@srtapicero2211]

I love the middle age and prefer AoM because in AoE4 a peasant is taller than a house and a knight as tall as a barrack tower.

[@YourLifejacketFirst]

I will move if I enjoy it and I can escape the maphackers of aoe4. I suppose they'll come for aom too eventually

[@ChillyEmpire]

Great video. RTS games typically have a big learning curve. Part of why players are so “stubborn”. It’s a big lift to learn a new game and all the meta. It’s like how LoL and DOTA players are so divided, yet shooter games typically have a much more fluid audience.

[@milosmarinkovic2853]

Let's be honest for a moment. AoM has something that AoE in general doesnt have, and that is that fantasy myth element. Many people like to play fantasy games, the escapism that those types of games give. So I wouldn't underestimate AoM in any regard. Me honestly would pick AoM over AoE4 any day just because of that fantasy element.

[@Americanheld]

Gameplay matter more than the fantasy element. If the game isn't smooth to play and balanced and has a good competitive community around it... It will die.

[@alkrimiy]

fantasy myth element is the exactly reason why I won't play AoM.

[@SaintPegasusSeiya]

Retold will need clan support to be successful.

[@comack669]

Nice footage and convo, MythBro! It wasn't my first Age game, but Mythology has always been my favorite Age game. I'm assuming TheMista will come in and rock the Retold competitive scene? When he's not farming, of course!

[@TheAndi073]

Age of Mythology has been a big part of my childhood and I absolutely loved it. However, I do not think that it is going to take away much from Age of Empires 4. Both are really good games and both are worth playing. Just because there is a new game doesn't mean you have to abandon the other one.

[@Jimboquacks]

It comes down to the next aoe4 expansion. They most likely will announce it in August. Hopefully it will introduce Spanish and Aztec civs with their own campaign and have great gameplay mechanics. I remember seeing a post that would be a great landmark idea for the Aztecs where you do villager sacrifices for temporary buffs. Something like the Malians Griot Bara age 4 landmark that gives 3 different type of buffs. But in relation to the Aztecs it could be a tier buff system of how many villagers sacrificed.

[@anomie3299]

rip aoe4 long live aomr

[@CryShana]

AoE4 and AoM games are completely different RTS games. They will complement each other well on the market and I for one, will be playing both actively.

[@BootlegPt]

aoe4 isn't going anywhere for me. Am gonna play the sh8t out of both games

[@nottud]

❤ for mention about questioning custom map support.

[@27klickslegend]

Yes you legend, I'm hoping for improved mapping tools too.

[@Flamamacue]

Very keen to see this game in a modern e-sports context. This was one of my favourite games in the 00's and only recently discovered that it never actually died and for it's age is still thriving. I really really hope this breathes new life and lets it be the game it always deserved to be in terms of popularity

[@JimCullen]

Haha, you finally managed to find your clickbaity angle to talk about AoM! Love it! Btw, i don't know if you've seen it, but there's actually some more leaked beta footage on a channel called marjiman. I haven't seen any more mainstream channels talking about it, so that could be another potential angle.

[@Wombat2233]

I first time startet rts with or 4 properly playing competitive. Hotkey learnings etc. and I have still tons of fun with the game. Learning and improving makes a lot of fun. Checking out aom campaign is I would like to do but I dunno if I will play competitive in long Terme. If everyone is moving probably, if not I will still playing aoe. I would have to learn new mechanics etc and I don’t know if I have the energy and time. But I’m interested if it’s cool and the new thing I would change to aom. And the new units looking kind of cool.

[@Calebol04]

I couldn't agree more with this video. It would be good for the developers to talk a little about what awaits us in competitive, I really hope that on day 1 we will have ranked games, and continuous balance patches.

[@_DayStar_]

Been playing AOM since I was a kid. Along with other RTS games, AOE3, Battlezone 1/2 ect. All of them have their own feel that is for sure. I can see those from AOE4 coming over to check it out it, some may stay, and some may go back and visit from time to time. At the end of the day we play the games we know and love, and I hope those who have not experienced AOM come to at least enjoy it! As for the esports side if it, I don't pay attention to that stuff besides back when I played SC2 lol

[@goshlike76]

Excellent analysis and well presented facts. First of all, I am 100% leaning on AoM. First game of my youth, sentimental value, I'll preorder everything. In my humble opinion, I do not believe for a second that AoMR will overthrow AoE4. AoMR will be a most magnificent firework. But like all fireworks, its glow will lessen by time sadly. Unless Microsoft decides to cut the feeder from AoE4 and funnel all their resources to AoM retold. A bold move, but why take the risk for a game that's literally a glowy version of the old one? I can estimate that AoMR will gain a status like AoE2 definitive edition. Due to a significant playerbase, it will receive updates support, patching etc, but it will stay in the shadow of AoE4. Why though? Because AoE 4 was created to become the future of the RTS games. And it doesn't have to do about a best selling DLC, but because of its limitless possibilities. It has been established as a new "sample" unlike the other games. Constant updates and changes, seasons, focusing on the competitive side. Moreover, judging from the interviews of the developers they seem to focus on 2 things. 1) Making the game more accessible to everyone 2) making it fun to play. That's great for making a game earn revenues in short term, but not a viable option when trying to create a solid competitive scenery. To conclude, only if the majority of the playerbase decides to shift in supporting AoMR's competetive scene and ditches the other games, will Microsoft consider boosting the hell out of it. But usually a competitive playerbase is formed by the game's inception, like AoE4 did and not the other way around. It only remains to be seen. I'd love that though, since it's my favourite game of all times!

[@Ballistic-vn6em]

I stopped playing Age 10 years ago. AOM was one of my favourite games in the early 2000. Saw the AOM Retold gameplays and now i'm reading forums and watching youtube channels. I'm absolutely shocked by how the community is still still so dedicated and passionate about this franchise. Just started playing AOE 4 on my xbox and i'm excited about AOM Retold. I felt so nostalgic when i watched the trailer that i just had to play Age again. Thanks for the content.

[@qwerty222999]

I hope they will use Retold as a platform for testing catering towards co-op, special scenarios, gamemodes and challenges. Microsoft is kind of competing with itself in the RTS genre and Age of Empires 4 is big on ranked seasons and I wish they'd include more for casual players like me who enjoy campaign and PvE. And what both games lack is missions for co-op. It's just a hope. I think they could draw in a lot of players by selling the game as a PvE focused RTS where you can play missions with your friends. (Of course I also want the classic campaign to be played in singleplayer too)

[@ShimmySchimeon]

Oh wow! I didnt know AoM is gonna have a remaster! Cool! I cant wait to play ot again, i only played it a bit and love the mythology stuff!

[@SFBWasTaken]

AOM is such a different games from AoE2, AoE3, AoE4. AoM is my alltime favorite strategy game, but I have to acknowledge there's massive differences. I think maybe some of the competitive players such as TheMista may play competitive Retold though. Think a lot of AOE fans in general really tend to support each game.. or at least I do.

[@treefrog9392]

Honestly I played AoM recently a fair bit, and I really just could not find myself getting into it. It feels very strongly like 'AoE2 with fantasy elements', which I'm sure is great for some and I hope people have a blast with it. I do agree that I wish AoE4 got more comp support, its just such a fun game

[@Arcodus]

Age of Mythology was a very important part of helping me through a period of my life where I was severely hampered by OCD and I lost my job and missed the early part of my adulthood. I was enamoured by Nordic mythology early in my life(I'm Danish) and I like both Egyptian and Greek mythologies. If the AoM: Retold has savable Skirmish settings like AoE2:DE and AoE3:DE then I am set!

[@Arcodus]

I have no interest in AoM: Retold beats AoE4 or the other way around. I just want ease of play and extra content for both.

[@JohnnyEMatos]

I already stopped playing AoE4 after buying AoE2:DE. However, I really wanna play AoM Retold. I think it's just the nostalgia element

[@unkn0wnrge189]

I was aoe IV player and I got bored, I felt more of the same, harass protect of harass, aom allow me to teleport, spawn trees, use mythologic units, use god powers, heroes, it`s soo much more dynamic, if I have difficult to economy I pick atlanteans, it`s a lot more fun. Much more space. The Age of Empires original developers wanted to do it in AOM way, but due to lack of technology they couldn`t.

[@jaiapenopicante7758]

In a perfect world both would coexist In a better world, AoM would kill AoE4 In reality, it will probably just be the new hot thing for a month and then have its own small dedicated community

[@BYZANTINE_GR]

MY GREAT QUESTION PERSONALLY CAUSE AOM IS MY BEST GAME SINCE SCHOOL BUT IAM MAIN IN AOE4 NOW SO IT WILL BE A HARD DECISION TO ME TO WHICH I SHOULD COMMIT MOST

[@georgebethanis3188]

Age of Empires 4 is an amazing and modern game. AoM will get a retouch... but its still an old game at its core. Everybody will buy it for the campaign and the noatalgia. Not for competitive pvp

[@spazghetti7204]

I played age of mythology since it came out it was one of my first game experiences In my life. I can honestly say it won't affect aoe4. Aom and AOE are like how call of duty and halo coexist. They are both great and there's room for both I'm sure I'll play Aom exclusively for like a month but after that il be back to rotating between AOE and aom and whatever else

[@aaron_the_order6589]

Instead of picking the gods I would just do random just to have a challenge to try out all the civilizations again

[@Berthier90]

tbh i dont care all i want is to play this game in this outstanding look and i want them to make more updates over the years because there are so many cultures with different gods(pls do the slavic gods)

[@RS-lfdkb]

AOE3 has the deepest gameplay of any Age of Empires game. Home shipments were the best thing to happen to RTS

[@stysner4580]

It's impossible to balance.

[@coltwolf6332]

AOM: Retold really needs to be 100% ready at launch otherwise there is no future for this game... I am super curioius for the second DLC with the new secret civ...

[@SavageTorment]

Solid video!

[@le4-677]

Aom will kill mobile game aoe iv

[@FitzBro]

😂

[@Spectre2013]

There were basic features missing in AOE 4 at launch because Relic is not exactly a massive company and they were risk spreading by developing AOE 4 and COH 3 simultaneously. At the end both games suffered from this

[@tadeasjanout699]

Its gonna kill AoE IV as much as CoH3 did (0 impact)

[@herrmajestat]

Retold is what keeps me from switching to Linux right now. I wanna snort the hell out of it before I migrate

[@faikerdogan2802]

As an old aom fan. I don't think it has a chance. Aom feels like Warcraft reforged failure

[@diego2817]

It will destroy AOE IV, better physics, more fun, better graphics, better animations, no stupid variations, no MOBA heroes etc

[@Jinn15]

probably

[@Gteesma]

I just started falling in loves with AoE 4 and now people talking about it dying already. Lol

[@colmduffy2272]

I don't disagree with your sentiment as a whole. But, I can't agree with your red bull assessment. That is, and always has been, an AoE2 event and it is driven by red bull and supported by Microsoft. So there is negotiation in what's included. They have tried to expand out what's covered, but if you are included in an event that is not primarily your event, you are always going to be second fiddle.

[@FitzBro]

I've mentioned how AoE4 needs to stop trying to be a part of Red Bull because like you mentioned, it will always be on the outside looking in. Time for Monster or 5 Hour Energy Wololo!

[@colmduffy2272]

@@FitzBro oh .. forgot to mention. Norse, definitely Norse first! 14!!!!

[@PNWer_of_Souls]

AOE4 was the AOE4 killer, lol

[@davidlubkowski7175]

I dont see many big guys like Aussie Drongo or The Viper even talk about Myth...

[@akaMaddy]

Surely they will. Viper is probably a bit busy or something, he did make a short video about AoM retold 3 months ago so i guess he'll talk about it pretty soon. 🙂

[@MasterSilvergreen]

Hera will try it, also reacted to the trailer and loved it. Viper said along time ago he will sure try and play AoM Retold. Spirit of the Law also made a video and will play too. Only T90 will maybe never play AoM Retold.

[@TeCH_5505]

If it will launch with balance, no bugs, and good optimization I'm switching to AOM day 1

[@LanguageLearners11]

I didn't like the graphics and combat in age of empires 4. I uninstalled AOE 4. AOM Retold is an instant buy for me. I have always like AOM more than other AOE games.

[@Stewart1499]

Hopefully it will kill 4. Would rather have aom which was actually built with passion and creativity have a large player base over age 4 which just feels like the safest most calculated product with 0 cool art style or flavor.

[@100toeface]

I hate AOE4 I refunded the beta when they insisted on not allowing me to zoom out as much as all the other games, after it was the NUMBER ONE feedback item from the beta testers (adjusting it an indiscernible amount doesn't count). I hope it dies completely and all players go into the other aoe games. As far as which 'pros' will play, the fewer the better, mid ELO games are much more fun to watch anyway. AOM has always been my favorite RTS, although I haven't played it since AOE2DE came out. I now play AOE3 DE exclusively, but will switch to AOM when it comes out.

[@braintrust02]

I stopped aoe4 awhile back. It stinks because I love the gameplay but they take way too long to update it with balance patches.

[@HawkknightXC88]

Not really. When Age 4 came out I still played Age 2 and 3. Probably be the same.

[@Adribird]

Those of us who come from the disastrous/disappointing launches know what's what. It should have as few bugs as possible and good connection stability. If there are several bugs, it should be fixed in a very short time. The first image is super important.

[@gongal]

It's so over aoe4 sisters

[@Nathran13]

AoM retold will be hype for a month or so but AoE will be always more popular

[@mariayjose4796]

AOM its the TOP S :V AOE4 = C

[@JensBuehl]

/2

[@greatbigeyeball]

AOE4 is a much better game on the surface than AOM is.. I think AOM gameplay still looks a bit dated even in the new version. There's not really any risk to AOE4...

[@HonnePerkele]

Age of Empires "4" is not even comparable for the god tier game that is Mythology

[@greatbigeyeball]

@@HonnePerkele If this was a full Age of Mythology 2 I would say there is a chance

[@da1ace]

Not with such a shitty UI. They better change it.

[@OblivionWizard]

Maybe with steam workshop support it will get custom UI changes like extended edition has

[@FloosWorld_AoE]

@@OblivionWizard It won't get Steam Workshop, much like the DEs and AoE 4 don't have it. Instead, you'll host mods on the official AoE website

[@Tingywingy]

just another reforge game, microsoft after take over blizzard is ruining and try to make money so hard by push out many game but not maintain it , seem like blizzard make warcraft reforge and overwatch2.

[@GatochanBolivia]

I THINK AOE4 IS KILLING ITSELF ALREADY XD (so why asking other games to kill aoe4?...) AGE OF MYTHOLOGY RETOLD IS JUST A REMAKE OF ANA AMZING OLD GAME :) many but many will be there once its launched and LATER we will see if we stay or not, please dont make this nonsense division, about aoe2, 3, 4 aom... At the end the best game will show the numbers :3

[@TheAppo1988]

No

[@davidquezada50]

Age of mythology is out now. Nobody Plays it.

[@tonytagliatelle9225]

Thats because the online is really laggy and it looks ugly compared to AoE 2 and AoE 4 and it has the Chinese expansion that everyone hates. Retold should fix all that.

[@odoyle5895]

age of mythology wont come close to aoe4

[@nathan38938]

nah the original age of mythology beats all other ages imo loll

[@raptorhacker599]

hopefully it does, aoe4 feels horrible.

[@OthCrypto]

looks ugly!

[@JamesJohnson-kl1eu]

No