Will AI Ruin Anime?

[@xenobestx8423]

Only Kagurabachi can save us all

[@Tyrannotitan_Chubutensis]

Or dandadan

[@KindaAverageArtist]

@@Tyrannotitan_Chubutensisor perhaps both?

[@Tyrannotitan_Chubutensis]

@@KindaAverageArtist yeah….

[@Nigerosaurus420]

FR

[@Chris_Thorndyke]

One Piece will have episodes written by AI from now on so the series can never end YAYYYYYY!!!!

[@DaRealSuika]

Chris that's why the sonic Fandom perfers donut lord, ur happy about this

[@gaminginvirinch3339]

Misinformation

[@DaKing540]

Brain dead thinking

[@Germaneworld]

Never man, A.I. can't match the set of super skilled workforce of them Animation Studios...

[@Toji-xk3ud]

I am genuinely tweaking to hear that it's been 5 months I started my degree on animation and I don't have a drawing skill

[@azurianyte]

Can't wait to see soulless isekais look even more unhinged when the entire studios get replaced with AI. It's a bit sad seeing how this might possibly go down... let's just wait and hope for the good ending

[@axiom9840]

The future of anime has been cooked ever since crunchyroll started, get with it kid ☠️☠️☠️

[@TheRealMakotoYuki419]

Real af

[@HyperKryst]

The truest statement out there

[@Nigerosaurus420]

Nah it probably began somewhere around the time of 2017 with anime becoming mainstream.

[@Chillin-jg8vg]

Fr they wanted anime to be shorter so they can appeal to the modern generation.

[@cluster4583]

Just bc ai has gotten involved in one thing in anime doesn't mean the anime industry would just start using ai on everyhing, it doesn't make any sense at the slightest. First of all a overwhelming majority in the industry recognizes good anime can only really be made be talented real people, and AI is nowhere anywhere near capable of being as creative as the countless individuals in the anime industry, from the writting, story, direction, animation etc basically every aspect i don't think the ai can get better at. idk why people only talk about the negative despite the anime industry having a bright future, we now get atleast 3-5 amazing animes every season of the year, there is always a standout stunning anime every season that has everyone's attention for good reasons.

[@Nigerosaurus420]

We are cooked sauteed, fried, deepfried, grilled and put on 500 McDonald's meals.

[@eileens8464]

We are so screwed

[@mst311]

So I can finally catch up on the last 30 years

[@mohammedzawia1054]

Until AI is trained on image databases that use art consented by their Creators, then I will never support it.

[@eggmin8967]

Pretty sure there is but we mostly see reports of instances of being made using stolen data

[@Evra98]

i have also been seeing comments frm the latest op episode saying its "over-animated" and it just makes me sad.

[@derickenitan]

That time ai tried to make a decent anime but failed miserably

[@kyperactive]

Likely in its infancy, no duh its gonna trip. We werent perfect out the womb.

[@Hirotara]

I feel that A.I will be able to take care of the grunt work that comes with the industry which would leave more time and resources for animators to innovate. I know that it’s a trend to hate A.I currently but I likened the surge of the technology to something like the Industrial Revolution. Sure it’s not 1-to-1 but I hope you’re getting my point here. We’re reaching a point in time where animators do not need to slog away on their desks with terrible hours and pay. You still need someone to man the human aspects that come with the industry. As advanced as A.I can be, it can only ever mimic what we do instinctively Imo, for each job that A.I “takes away”, a new one pops up that is more efficient and is simply just a reflection of the times that we’re in

[@natalimoina]

A.I steals from actual artists. Plus it looks terrible. Not a good comparison either btw. Also, if you think it would somehow change animators working conditions and pay, you are unaware of the greediness of the higher ups and the system we live under.

[@rexelberncabillo8306]

You didn't get his point​@@natalimoina read again

[@arikendo]

I agree and disagree. There are studios that will only use AI for grunt work or not use it at all. But there are definitely studios that will jump on publicly trained generative models to save as much money as possible. I guess only time will tell

[@Lasgriz]

this! id rather get help from ai to interpolate my art than overworking 19291918281 hours, actually if AI's being kept in house for most studios instead of relying on chatgpt/genAI, then its actually not quite bad cuz i technically use a field tiller tractor instead of my hands

[@hansbrackhaus8017]

Art is communication, who's communicating with you if it's a program? The 'prompt engineer'? The writer? Why would you want a writer if an AI can generate the script too? Who are you communicating with then? Intel? NVIDIA? Right now, artists still complain about 'stolen art' but just look at Christianity and Islam, those are missionary faiths and the people who are colonized by it at some time in history has a culture before it. I'm German, there's people who think "Hans" is German, but it's still Hebrew in origin. What I'm getting at is, it's not the technology that will change the scene, it will be people just getting made used to it until there is no more sense of heritage in the art. In 10-20 years AI art will of course be stunning, and few people will remember the sources. Especially the more 'transformative' the algorithms do it. Sense of composition by this artist. Lineweight by this artist. Coloring by that artist. THAT will be the true breakpoint of AI art. When the datasets are so munged up no artist will be able to claim identity, and people will have forgotten too. And those 'several artists' whose aspects are used, composition, lineart, coloring, etc will not be the only ones, of course. And there will be parameters that mess with the source too. Replicating one artists linework, but being able to make the lines a bit thicker than the artist usually would, or thinner, or reversing the flow of the strokes. Maybe he's left handed, or right handed, and draws a face in a certain order because of it. The erasure of source material, even when people are aware that it's often 'stolen' will be the breaking point. Cause no matter how good the algorithm ...it cannot create from thin air, someone has to prime it. It can be legit, but it still needs input. But after some time, there will be so much input that new input won't be needed anymore, but things can be generated from it. That will be the end of it. Then who is left? See above. Writers, etc, but they too can be replaced. Who will be communicating with us. Who do you thank for the AI art 20 years in the future?

[@puckthegreat-YT]

Loving your videos bro

[@PowerKetchup]

The thing I don’t like about AI is how it can do something so easily in two seconds while humans could take hours, days, weeks, months or maybe years to complete. The ai can do it so simply that it’s not anything special because it’s not something that’s put to thought, time, creativity or effort to make. It will just make the creation boring and unappreciative

[@kyperactive]

Thats only if you give it boring prompts though? Shocker: Tech doesnt work as well if you neuter what it can work with 😂

[@Miraihi]

Even with AI you can't create something good in two seconds. A really good AI art actually needs at least your own sketch and color mask. The better you are as an actual artist, the better you are at using AI. Inform yourself at what ControlNet is. Online Ai-art services are practically worthless for any serious work with rare exceptions. It's not even about the quality of the prompts.

[@InfiniteDark33]

This is good content

[@internethistorytrash7464]

bro with AI the scheduling will get even worst for the animators...executives will expect more content in less time.

[@Huzkies]

what ai did u use for the pictures at 0:30?

[@DragonBall-Manga-1984]

The future of anime has been cooked from the very beginning from 1917

[@jackfloc33]

Nah crunchyroll is the reason fuck that website

[@SolemnJockey]

The point when Crunchyroll started monopolizing anime and buying up all the competition was when it started to get cooked.

[@SabertenthGurstu]

Hi, could you link the sources in the description please. Thanks in advance

[@redfox6662]

That miku post link 🤨 please 😊

[@TMPGrub03]

i always like to see my youtubers subtly calling out logan paul

[@kyperactive]

We are jumping the gun, lets see what they've got.

[@vivizwag]

I agree. AI shouldn't be the main focus, but should instead assist the animators with the more time consuming parts. I'm sure people are still gonna cry about this on Twitter, but these animators deserve some rest

[@NerfTheLamp9]

5:49 counterpoint: I’m poor

[@neonbvde2234]

You shall become a pirate and join me!!

[@eggmin8967]

​@@neonbvde2234is that any better

[@theslothguy47]

​@@neonbvde2234hianime my boy

[@termes196]

Join my crew!

[@Jetfury-v2x]

0:23 um actually 🤓 i got i was correct here

[@eddy9615]

Ok

[@anaveragegamer359]

Pretty sure most animator would want shit stuff to be done by AI

[@arikendo]

I think most animators would rather keep their jobs... If you're talking about using AI as a tool to assist animators then I agree

[@corruptedpoison1]

There is nothing anyone can do about AI. Al you can do is incorporate it into your workflow.

[@thetitanhater]

1 minute 0 views bro fell off

[@Sans_Sans616]

Anime has been cooked since 2019 ended💀💀💀💀

[@coletheking]

People have been saying that anime is “cooked” for over a decade

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

It's burnt now

[@coletheking]

@@user-lr8ow2jg4e So an anime game (DB Sparking Zero) breaking all types of records and becoming the best selling game on Steam was a trick of the eyes then?

[@ShifuSage]

eh i dont think so, anime is too complex and too grounded in culture for it to be replaced fully by ai, plus ai isnt good enough to push out huge or even minor projects just yet. on top of that people are VERY nitpicky about animation, so the community as a whole wont appreciate it which will make less money for animation studios. overall its not really possible for it be replaced just yet.

[@Miraihi]

AI is perfectly possible to integrate into the animators workflow, to add the fine detail for example, or for semi-automated in-betweens. Japanese animators mostly don't work on in-betweens anyway, those get outsourced. Of course all that automation won't bring higher salaries, but it is also improbable that the animators who already work for pennies get exploited even further. There is a finite number of people who have what it takes to do that job.

[@ShifuSage]

@@Miraihi yes and we have already seen something similar even before ai got popular. It's possible and has been done before, though a full replacement is almost impossible currently without major issues.

[@SuperKarat]

20 views in 2 min is crazy bro fell off jk

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Smile]

More like 1,000 views in 4 hours 💀 (this is a joke by the way no hate)

[@SuperKarat]

@@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Smile nah i was joking too lmao i just saw some guy comment this

[@xandex69]

Ai keyframing and inbetween frames are 100% going to be a net positive. It will reduce massive grunt labour requriements and would allow for more creative freedom as there would be more budget and less time constraints. Also we might finally get a great Berserk Adaptation.

[@Ligmaballzallthetime]

Correction : the budget will actually be cut. No producer is missing out on the opportunity to put in as less money as possible despite what creative aspirations the animation team might have. By eliminating those tasks, as menial as they can be It's just going to incentize execs to cut corners as our value will be driven down by AI. So no, more creative freedom will never come at the hands of AI. It happens in spite of it.

[@xandex69]

@@Ligmaballzallthetime Completely depends on the project. Cashgrab isekai? Yes, Passion/ High quality projects such as the OP remake? defo not

[@JewTubeUsername]

Animators are people who enjoy labor, because animation is nothing BUT labor. If you want to do less work, then you're not an animator. In fact, I am going so far with this that I actually consider all those "super camera spin sakuga" animators less of animators than subtle ones. Why? Because it's actually easier to draw 5 disjointed frames with big spacing between them and with the camera moving wildly than subtle animation with lots of overlap. You won't see much line boiling and volume warping if you animate a run toward the camera that has the character first 10pixels tall, then 80, then 200, then 500, then 1000. It will still look like a dash toward the camera but due to the nature of the big differences, you can be less tight. You can be more relaxed cause the brain fills in the gaps, and leaving big gaps in 'flashy animation' goes hand in hand with that. Masterpieces are created by the animators who don't shy away from work. And going "well we'll just interpolate to 60 frames and then cut and hold certain frames to make it choppy and more human again!" is not a magical solution either. It can look floaty without planning for it in the first place, etc. There's always labor, and the more you cut, the less good it will be, even if the end result is still 'decent'. You cannot make masterpieces with it.

[@xandex69]

@@JewTubeUsername nah

[@hansbrackhaus8017]

@@xandex69 He's right, though. How would you feel about drawing 5 frames that are very subtle, but require the redrawing of the entire body. Does not sound like fun, I bet, but this kind of subtlety can elevate something to masterpiece status and wrangling an AI that many times probably comes out boiling AF. If I asked you to animate an elderly woman softly and smoothly sprinkling herbs into a bowl she also softly sways with her other hand, would you want to do it? Would you ask for CGI instead? AI? An animator who does it for the craftsmanship will do this. Someone who just wants to get paid for 'good enough' to pay the rent, probably wouldn't. Does it really matter? Not truly, if the story is got conveyed it's got conveyed. But it won't be something like the secret of nimh or the cobbler and the thief. Ever. it is unattainable by the less work preferred animator.

[@mrkaji8913]

Just don’t use ai

[@anirbanbardhan4272]

Studio Ghibli has always turned me off. There is something annoying about their art style, that I just get irked by. I think I am the only person who feels that way, but I hate those visuals. Looks like stuff from a bygone era and people clinging on to it because it's "vintage". I know it's that studio's artistic choice, but I'd rather watch stuff with smoother visuals (including "A Silent Voice") than literally any Ghibli movie.

[@MysticalRefpanel]

its fun movies dude

[@timurberlov8202]

Bro I love you ❤️ I felt so scared to say this in a community, but I watched a couple ghibli films, and honestly the animation is overrated online. You and I are probably the only ones...

[@Sejikan]

I still don't know why ai gets so much shit as is and not respected more as a medium. Think of it like paint, if you dump a bucket on some paper its not gonna look good. It still takes effort to manipulate the ai to get it to make something unique and aesthetically pleasing

[@Ligmaballzallthetime]

Skill from the programmer, sure. Not from the AI. AI only knows what human artists with actual skill can do and most programmers are not artists.you see the problem? In short, AI is theft.

[@Sejikan]

@@Ligmaballzallthetime i wasn't referring to programmers

[@Ligmaballzallthetime]

@@Sejikan i was responding to your statement about the effort it takes to manipulate ai. I would assume people that can code can, right?

[@Sejikan]

@@Ligmaballzallthetime i mean like manipulating the prompt

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

It takes less time and effort to do the exact same thing but better via hand. With "AI", you don't have nearly as much control as you do with your hands. It's like driving a car from the back seat, yea with enough thought and effort it could work but you would always be better off sitting in the front.

[@DragonBall-Manga-1984]

AI is probably the only thing that can save Anime, the proof for this is Uzumaki ep 2

[@amogus2734]

B

[@jackfloc33]

I don’t care