Will Bagnaia Be The Most Successful Rider To Not Win The Title? | Malaysian GP Review with Nat Quirk

[@hemanthkuppala7867]

This video has the description saying "Will Bagnaia be the most successful rider to not win the championship ?" It immediately reminded me of Pedrosa

[@marcbrailak9518]

Also Randy Mamola in the 500cc era!

[@2wheelsonline]

Read my comment above....

[@rayleather8005]

I agree again with Keith, The Aprillia may well prove to be a much better bike than it appears to be with Jorge on board, Bring it on 🏍️🏍️🏍️

[@macsmith6216]

We can only hope, but I wouldn’t hold my breath

[@BlueBARv5]

Also Aprilla better drop some 🔥fire🔥 Merch for #89..

[@mdickson1972]

Pecco’s season will definitely fall under that heading if he loses the championship this year…but overall…I have to agree that “the most successful rider not to win the championship” would definitely have to be “Daniel” Pedrosa!

[@BlueBARv5]

The Silent Assassin.

[@bonifasiusadrian7600]

very much agree.. joan mir have 1 win 13 podium 1 world champ.. but pedrosa.. 31 win 112 podium.. 0 world champ.. who is the legend?

[@StefanMedici]

Depends on how you define things. Pedrosa won 3 world championships, just never in the big class. Also trying to remember how many times he was runner up in the class. For my money Randy Memola is probably still the best rider to never win a world title. 4 times runner up.

[@queenslander954]

Pedrosa had so many chances on the best bike during those times , but he couldn’t close the deal ..

[@brianbowers-x9q]

Couldn't agree more 👍👍👍 and he knew how to race and develop a bike ​@@bonifasiusadrian7600

[@marcayres8567]

It's nice to hear you guys enjoyed the race weekend💚🇬🇧🌱 the guys on paddock pass podcast just moan about how boring it is these days! The Ducati dominance is a little one sided I agree but the racing between the six Ducati boys is a show in its self... Qualifying was awesome! The sprint & main race had some awesome moments...MM after his spill,13th to third was something else!!! I do hope Jorge can wrestle that Aprilia into the fight next season?

[@theant9821]

Brilliant rant, hit the nail on the head.

[@duncharie]

Natalie, congratulations on the arrival of your daughter! May the little girl be blessed with good health, happiness, and prosperity throughout her life 🙏 Hope to see you soon #TNTSports with my crush Suzi Perry ❤ Lemme use this opportunity to congratulate Jorge Martin in-advance for becometh 2024 MotoGP world champion 🏆🍾🎊🎉

[@utuber4u1]

The difference between that Saturday and Sunday is that he has #89 data to go over and get up to speed for Sunday GP

[@david_new46]

But would that alone explain why he's won 10 grand prixs versus Jorge's 3? The dnfs have killed bagania. Martins' consistency has been great.

[@Rndmvid297]

Then why doesn’t Jorge have more wins? They both use each other’s data.

[@nestordanielsequeramunoz2337]

​@@Rndmvid297tan simple como eso.

[@david_new46]

More Amy rants please 😂

[@GregOwens-vh4se]

Less.

[@billclarke4134]

It’s funny how we describe success. A championship win is a win. How many races you win is how many races you win not necessarily a championship. Most successful Rider is the one with the most points .

[@captaintoyota3171]

1st of the losers

[@barryrose4850]

Trouble with next year’s championship I feel is there will only be two contenders. Hopefully 2027 will change all this. Great show guys 🏁

[@hillbillyacoustics6547]

While I tend to agree, I also think Aprilia have something special for Jorge for next year, he is so much quicker and consistent than Aleix or Mav, plus I can't believe they got his signature without guarantees that the bike will be very competitive, hope so anyway.

[@barryrose4850]

⁠@@hillbillyacoustics6547 Hopefully some sort of contract clause regarding competitive machinery. Ducati really stuffed him. Good luck bro 🏁

[@romelvillanueva5206]

I would love to see JM89 have a fast bike next year so we will know who has the real talent and deserves the championship

[@romelvillanueva5206]

It is almost handing to MM93 the championship next year

[@macsmith6216]

@@hillbillyacoustics6547 Which manufacturer can ever guarantee their next years bike will be competitive None

[@Full-Time-Off-Grid-Van-Dweller]

Thought that was going to be a Ryde vs Bridewell race, well it was for 4 laps.

[@jian_14]

That thought of Keith in 28min of this vid it connects to the perspective of Casey Stoner back then when battling with Rossi and other great riders.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Watching Pecco’s interview after the race, they asked him if he’d thought about slowing the pace down to get other riders involved No he wouldn’t do that, that not how to win, not fair, it’s better to be just him and Martin battling it out, then asked about the last round. He says he hopes other riders get involved between him and Martin? Make up your mind Pecco

[@kenmcvie6350]

Did you see the letter that Jorge's girl friend wrote to him? Maybe that sheds some insight into what sort of person he really is. What do you think?

[@Acthungbaby]

Australians are tough breed and south Africans

[@dinaldcurchod3296]

Pecco and Martin are very close in talent. Marc is above both!

[@macsmith6216]

We will find that out next year

[@dinaldcurchod3296]

@ yes we will. I will be surprised if Marc is not champion. I think Martin acted like a spoilt child in leaving Ducati and he will struggle next year. What do you think?

[@2_5_8_11metaka]

​@@dinaldcurchod3296 I expect a big fight 2025 between Martin and Marquez, but Alex Marquez.

[@macsmith6216]

@@dinaldcurchod3296 “A spoilt child” he’d been passed over twice by Ducati, he was already told he’d get the Factory seat this year, then Ducati changed its mind at the last minute and hired Marc, which they are entitled to do.

[@thetonetosser]

...and, Marc has a point to prove.

[@Acthungbaby]

Am so happy martin can win the championship for the team as well isn't this first satellite team world title

[@benedictjudegovender2458]

What Amy said is no doubt controversial, but I’m ever so glad she said it because , if the sport wants more fans, apart from good racing you need story lines. Well more natural story lines than manufactured storylines and it’s been a while since we had that. This seems to require a clash of personalities. It’s my one major concern with the Liberty take over, based on their endeavours in F1. which seem to want to place more emphasis on peripheral things than the racing. So the question is who would fill that role? Marc on 2025 bike, at the moment, seems a scary prospect but maybe Pecco could give him a run. After their clash in Portugal , was good to see Pecco stand his ground. Would love to see Acosta have a better bike because he would definitely ruffle a few feathers. Also the last time we had an ‘altercation’, was it Pecco and Maverick at Le Mans?.? I mean a face to face altercation.

[@shpritzer]

They all count as races in wsbk and that’s fine.

[@kennedyracing7527]

If he would have slowed down Jorge would have past him and take the win

[@BlueBARv5]

Those were my exact thoughts aswell, The Martinator would have attacked....🤣

[@romelvillanueva5206]

Aprilla may have the #1 plate but it is Ducati machineries who gave it to JM89

[@macsmith6216]

First point Aprilia don’t have the No1 plate yet. No Ducati didn’t give him anything, if / when he becomes WC he earned it on his own merit

[@ZairulAffandiAbdulRajak]

The moto3 rider is Alex Rins. cant remember what year & track.

[@thetonetosser]

Those 3 or 4 laps in the GP were nearly as good as a Moto3 race.

[@KeithHuewen16]

😂

[@Acthungbaby]

I think pecco understands he lost title a while back two rounds

[@kevinx9225]

The title makes no sense because Pecco has already won the title twice.

[@NickRno77]

Yeh it’s cryptic to get us thinking. He won I think 10 proper gp races this year out of 22. You can’t compare because there were less races in a season compared to Rossi, Stoner etc era. 2007 season Stoner won 10 out of 17 races during the season.

[@MarcoSchaper-n4z]

I'm with Pecco but Jorge also deserves the Championship win. I don't think that it is over and I will feel good with both of them as world champion. I think Ducati made a bad decicion let Jorge leave to Aprilia, I hope he is competetiv next year too

[@macsmith6216]

A rider that’s crashed out of so many races doesn’t deserve it

[@rogermaybank9345]

It'll be great to see Nat back in Barca for the end of the season. Any chance we could get Sylvain as well?

[@macsmith6216]

His son has cancer I’m sure that’s more important

[@Acthungbaby]

Look Muir he almost title with least wins though being consistent

[@OneNation_SpeakTruth]

Jorge left Ducati not the other way around

[@TheAmeya229]

There are also others except the Ducati riders in motogp to discuss about. Please do discuss others like Japanese manufacturers in next episode.

[@cdmc012599]

Martin was showing Pecco he had the speed to beat him that first 4 laps and he wasn't going to let Pecco slow the pace. If Pecco would've tried, Martin would've run away from him. As an ex-racer, I'd feel more embarrassed to say I've won 10 of the races but didn't get the title. The biggest problem we have in GP right now is riders pushing it to the edge the first 3/4s of the race from the start. If you'll notice the old way was to ride the pace till the last 5 laps then it was all out war. Marc still does this. I say its a problem cause it's causing thos 10 wins with no title cause of crashes. All it'll taje for Marc to win the titles the next 2 years is not to fall in the race. I'm sure he sees this and will act on it. 10 years ago, heck 5 years ago, if you had a DNF your season was pretty much fighting for 2nd or 3rd. Mir won his off podiums alone until he got lucky and Alex missed a gear. They have to learn to back the pace off just a little to keep the bike upright. Ducati is horrible and dropping the front-end with what looks like no warning at all. Could be caused by areo. Once that speed drops enough to lose that downforce. Its on the ground sliding. Rider is always standing wondering what happened cause they feel everything was the same as the last lap. Hopefully GP will wise up and ban areo and we get bavk to great battles on the track.

[@guypike6402]

Martin will have motor issues and lode it?

[@Acthungbaby]

It is a shame he going to aprilla but he had too really there to small a factory to win title unfortunately

[@MartinMcMartin]

Arrogance is boasting about how many wins you have, but Mir proved you can win a title with only 1 win. Cliché ... but you do win the title by maximizing your bad days.

[@macsmith6216]

Certainly not arrogant to tell people, boast about how many wins you’ve had at the very pinnacle of motorcycle racing

[@alan988]

Will Ducati let Jorge win? Next year the greatest racer of all time will be on the latest Ducati , I hope there is a place saved for Pecco in BSB for 2026

[@macsmith6216]

😂😂😂😂BSB

[@mdickson1972]

MM93 for world champion 2025!!!THANK YOU KEITH!!

[@marcayres8567]

Poor Jake Dixon though😭

[@ianjohnson1207]

The difference between Marc and Martin top speed 1.1 Km/h Marc and Pecco 2.1 KM/h

[@Acthungbaby]

I think Keith what I seen of my nephew and young teenage son this gen z are much more able to process and talk about there feelings am a boomer with 14 yr son

[@richardcarr7557]

Way to good at it for me ( 62 year old ) 😂

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

..last year Martin blew his chance, and this year barely may be champion..in my opinion, both are 2nd tier..This year i was more impressed with Marquez, Acosta, Quartararo on the positive side..I think next year Yamaha and KTM will be stronger than Aprilia, and the Ducati 2025 will not have such a big gap to the 2024, as current year the 2024 to 2023 has.. Disapointing this year has been the other 2024 ducatis..

[@macsmith6216]

Both 2nd tier 😂😂😂 Have you been watching the same championship as the rest of us

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

@@macsmith6216 yes, 2nd tier riders, on 1st tier bikes

[@2_5_8_11metaka]

I agre with you. Marc was 37 of 38 races the fastest GP23 rider, only in Indonesia Bezecchi was faster than Marc before Marc's engine blow. Quartararo is every race and quali miles ahead of Rins. Acosta is a rookie and he is already much faster than Binder. Both Bagnaia and Martin were 5+ times beaten by Marc on inferior bike, a bike which is every race 5 to 15 seconds slower than GP24 over race distance.

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

@@2_5_8_11metaka

[@macsmith6216]

@@ROBOTRIX_eu You don’t usually say much, but when you do is usually nonsense

[@ydarbg]

Maybe Marquez will do a repeat

[@2wheelsonline]

But Bagnaia has won the championship the last 2 years so the title is just a bit stupid. Maybe the most successful rider of one season with full GP race wins not to win the championship?

[@craigbrown8270]

Martín can't cry too much; he's been on a factory contract and factory bike. Ducati gave him the chance to be champion. And if he'd kept his mouth shut, he'd maybe still be there.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Martin left Ducati didn’t sack him

[@craigbrown8270]

@ianjohnson1207 never said they did. One of the reasons Ducati went with MM was because of Martin's attitude, demanding that he should be on the factory team, even if he deserves it.

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@craigbrown8270 “ if he’d kept his mouth shut, he’d maybe still be there” Well to someone reading that, it sounds very much like Ducati got rid of him

[@craigbrown8270]

@ianjohnson1207 No, not really. He'll miss Ducati more than they will miss him. Aprilia is in quite a mess.

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@craigbrown8270 And that’s why so many people want him to take the No1 plate with him A sting for Ducati

[@petechristofelo559]

I think Amy needs a violin as a prop🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻

[@utuber4u1]

MM93 2025 MotoGP world championship 🏆 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@Acthungbaby]

Ducati always shoot themselves in the foot .tradozi saying peco more special than Cassey is silly talk Cassey Ducati wasn't very good apart from speed for me a cheap shot at Cassey

[@Acthungbaby]

Not being rude but must been off season baby

[@romelvillanueva5206]

Everybody knows it

[@Acthungbaby]

Maybe they need half the sprints or let them drop there worst sprint points even it up

[@Acthungbaby]

Why don't dorna let people from that people in for free from that region

[@mulch1973]

It might not be a popular statement but I've never liked Martin. Just something about him. Well done on him winning the title but I think he's been gifted it by a careless Pecco.

[@macsmith6216]

To finish first, first you have to finish, Martin’s been gifted nothing He’s been the more all rounded rider this season What we have had are lots of excuses from Pecco

[@mulch1973]

@macsmith6216 fair enough but still don't like Martin.

[@macsmith6216]

@@mulch1973 Fair enough, personally I can never understand why people can say they don’t like someone the have never met, never spoken too and don’t know. Suppose we’re just all different

[@mulch1973]

@macsmith6216 I know it's crazy but hey if we all liked everyone. Life would be boring. Don't get me wrong I respect his talent but then I respect all on that grid. But I definitely don't like them all.

[@hillbillyacoustics6547]

@@macsmith6216 Absolutely