SATA M.2 SSD vs PCIe M.2 SSD - What’s the difference? - DIY in 5 Ep 172

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@WarHawk-
@WarHawk- 6 ай бұрын
The most concise and easy to understand comparison I've seen yet. Had me going back to check my new-build part bin to ensure that I had, indeed, purchased the correct components. Thanks, I can breathe easy now.
@johanloots4646
@johanloots4646 5 ай бұрын
I just did the same thing 🤭😂
@farishakim6759
@farishakim6759 Жыл бұрын
Just sharing, when it comes to SSD, 3 criteria u guys should know: 1. Form factor : 2.5" and M.2 2. Interface/slot/port : SATA and PCIe 3. Protocol : SATA and NVME
@gottabepablo
@gottabepablo Жыл бұрын
So is it possible to have an M.2 PCIe SSD using the SATA protocol ?
@Conraa8
@Conraa8 11 ай бұрын
@@gottabepablo wouldnt you need the connection of the m2 to be sata (physically speaking) in order to use its protocol?
@AbsolutelyJason
@AbsolutelyJason 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@whyjay9959
@whyjay9959 10 ай бұрын
​@@gottabepablo If you see an M.2 drive with two notches in the connector instead of one, I think that means it's either a SATA drive, or a PCIe drive with only two lanes. I think it's physically the same connection? There are M.2 slots that support both or only one, anyway. But the same drive can't do both.
@gottabepablo
@gottabepablo 10 ай бұрын
@@whyjay9959 I thought SATA is not only just a physical interface but also a protocol implemented in software that has to do with the drive controllers. So although an M.2 drives connector is etched for the PCIe interface, can't it not be configured to use either the NVMe protocol or the SATA protocol? (not the physical connection/interface)
@StarfieldWX-tb42
@StarfieldWX-tb42 3 ай бұрын
The stick of gum SLAYED me, thank you! :D
@flyingllama8543
@flyingllama8543 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video explaining it easily I've come across on KZbin. Well done.
@tonybolognamacaroni383
@tonybolognamacaroni383 Жыл бұрын
agree. Answered my questions 🙂
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 9 ай бұрын
Plus she's hot, so that's nice
@mikeymcmikeface5599
@mikeymcmikeface5599 5 ай бұрын
with one contradiction
@071Mccoy
@071Mccoy 2 жыл бұрын
I have a M.2 SSD 500Gb for the OS and I am very satisfied with it... not expensive, very fast and reliable. With HDD my PC took between 1 or 2 minutes to fully restart, but with M.2, it only takes 17 seconds and it´s ready to go.
@dharmendra34061
@dharmendra34061 Жыл бұрын
What pci version is required for the same..
@mihirojha4475
@mihirojha4475 Жыл бұрын
​@@dharmendra34061 it depends on what kind of motherboard you have and the type of PCIe slots it has. Older motherboards generally have a PCIe Gen 3 slot, newer ones (and the more expensive ones) have Gen 4 (which is twice as fast as 3 but in all honesty you don't need it unless you do heavy work on your PC like editing or gaming).
@Jamessavoy
@Jamessavoy Жыл бұрын
Great video. Building a new computer after 10 years (current one is still fine, but trying to get ahead of expected end of life limits of hardware). Coming from a "SSDs should only be for the OS" mentality, so very helpful.
@ZMacZ
@ZMacZ 9 ай бұрын
Well, for gaming too, especially in raid, but expand memory to like 32GB if you have 16GB, and use a virtual memory drive to create a 'storage' for the virtual memory, that way, the OS can support virtual memory, which is to me pretty much obsolete, and yet required for most games or apps, while only using 16Gb of the ram for that. Yes, sounds non-logical, but virtual memory is still a widely used function, upon non present games and apps may either quit or run badly, exiting to desktop "memory full" message. (It makes no sense, that with 32 GB you'd get a message memory full, or simply app quit, and yet it happens.) (It's better to have 16GB memory and 16GB virtual, than 32 GB real with no virtual, which makes no sense.) (also, instead of using SSD as virtual memory, using the virtual drive (in memory) as virtual memory saves a whole bunch of SSD life, while still allowing for near maximum performance, but is less prone to SSD degradation by virtual memory.) It also prevents the OS from using up all the memory for 'better' performance, while the slow release usually kills the game.
@jeffb.6642
@jeffb.6642 9 ай бұрын
There are some 2-lane nvme drives ("PCI-e X2") that have two notches just like SATA so you can't always tell what it is just by looking at the notches.
@kngan8017
@kngan8017 2 ай бұрын
I happen to have one. 😀😀😀
@smada36
@smada36 2 жыл бұрын
Just to confuse matters, there are also NVMe drives with both B Key and M Key (Two notches), but they use two PCIe lanes and not four. 🤷‍♂
@gbear1005
@gbear1005 5 ай бұрын
The infamous BM
@Guanaalex
@Guanaalex 2 жыл бұрын
Great content but 4 years too late. Those PCIe blades (AHCI) have been outstanding, but you can not get them any more. Samsung 951 and the predecessor 941 hypetrain left the station in 2017.
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 2 жыл бұрын
M.2 SATA is just a complete wasted slot...; all slots should be dual NVME/SATA capable, or, NVME only...
@lamesafekadu6568
@lamesafekadu6568 6 ай бұрын
Yes, it should be this way men 😅😂😂
@ivanteo1973
@ivanteo1973 5 ай бұрын
Clearly you don’t understand why it SATA exist.
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 5 ай бұрын
@@ivanteo1973 Assuming you are even addressing my statement, perhaps you missed the part/failed to comprehend where I addressed *M.2 SATA* slots on mainboards...and not 'SATA' standards as a whole.
@ivanteo1973
@ivanteo1973 5 ай бұрын
@@mdd1963 then you really dont know why M.2 SATA exist
@Phjghh
@Phjghh 5 ай бұрын
​@@ivanteo1973 Why it exist?
@purplecrayon7281
@purplecrayon7281 Жыл бұрын
M.2, 2.5" = type of form factor PCIe, SATA = type of bus connector (i.e. speed) NVME, AHCI = Protocols (i.e. bandwidth) SATA, regardless of form factor, uses the AHCI protocols. PCIe uses the NVME protocols.
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 Жыл бұрын
Great video. A little addition to your explanation : The 2 Notch Sata M.2 use's what's called the B-Key. The 1 notch PCIE [ NVME ) m.2 use's the M-Key. The M.2 socket's on the devices motherboard can be ; A B-key socket , A M-key socket or a combined socket that you can use either type of M.2 in that single socket.
@kingston
@kingston Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, and we have more information like this available here: kings.tn/3Io874P
@robxlove
@robxlove 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining the differences in interface, with two holes vs one hole for NVMe vs PCIe
@kingston
@kingston 2 ай бұрын
Hello @robxlove We're hoping this helps you out! NVMe SSDs use the M.2 slot with a single notch (M key) or the PCIe slot for higher speeds. At the same time, SATA SSDs typically have a dual-notch (B+M key) connector for the M.2 slot, supporting older, slower technology. SATA M.2 SSDs do not use the PCIe interface; they use the SATA interface despite having the M.2 form factor. The dual-notch (B+M key) connector is designed to fit into M.2 slots that support SATA. Some M.2 slots support both PCIe (NVMe) and SATA SSDs. These slots can accept drives with either the single-notch (M key) for NVMe or the dual-notch (B+M key) for SATA. Kingston Is With You
@ALxdCr4ftPlays
@ALxdCr4ftPlays 2 жыл бұрын
My 1TB Samsung SATA SSD can still boot my PC in 10-12 seconds, compared to the 2-4 minutes it takes a 5400rpm HDD to finish booting and readying programs to use. If you're using M.2, you wanna make sure you have a PCIe connection, as SATA is limited to 600mb/sec.
@iDunnoMan9000
@iDunnoMan9000 3 ай бұрын
I always thought M.2 drives were either PCIe or PCIe NVMe, where NVMe was just some kind of special version. Didn't realize it was SATA or PCIe (which IS just NVMe)! This video clears it up so much! Thank you! 😅
@Mattfghdghd
@Mattfghdghd 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting here with a Macbook Pro from 2011, i'm talking about the ones with CD Drives and Hard Drives for storage. Thinking of a day when i can finally upgrade and be productive again without so much lag and incompatibility with everything. Sigh
@vla2uv
@vla2uv 4 ай бұрын
It's such a huge difference between a SSD Sata m2 and a NVME m2 that by cloning with whatever program in Windows or Linux, from the first one, to the second one, you won't be able to boot from the second/cloned one! Try it if it sounds implausible!
@MSLubis
@MSLubis 5 ай бұрын
I am not focus
@overripe
@overripe Жыл бұрын
This presenter speaks so fast I have to repeatedly rewind. This is a very respectful comment.
@ryanchaney6226
@ryanchaney6226 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch, this is what I needed. While I had found another video explaining it. This one was much easier for me to understand.
@ramanmono
@ramanmono 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, she was from sourcefednerd. She and Meg Turney were so awesome on sourcefednerd. I wonder what Meg is doing now?
@arghamukherjee357
@arghamukherjee357 2 жыл бұрын
I had found M. 2 back in 2015 when I purchased Asus Rog laptop. But that time it was only sata. So I bought sata m. 2 & it is still working like a charm
@bobbinatorrah67
@bobbinatorrah67 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. The pin-slot connector really through me off once when I bought an adapter that could only do SATA M.2.
@mikeymcmikeface5599
@mikeymcmikeface5599 5 ай бұрын
threw*
@mickfreeley6054
@mickfreeley6054 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only place I've seen an M.2 SATA slot is in a slighty older laptop. Too old and it would only support a 2.5 inch SSD, newer may finally have PCIe/NVMe capability. Don't think I've ever seen a desktop motherboard with M.2 SATA, but I wouldn't put it past certain vendors to shave a few pennies off.
@xlr555usa
@xlr555usa 2 жыл бұрын
I have a gigabyte mobo that supports Sata m.2 - use it for mining with hiveos, I also have a USB enclosure for reformatting the sata m.2 drive
@superbin6021
@superbin6021 2 жыл бұрын
2021 modern of asus and msi, Acer still have M.2 SATA
@darthmaul7220
@darthmaul7220 2 жыл бұрын
There are tons of mobos that support M.2 SATA especially in the low and mid range mainboard chipset series... Mid range series boards also support both SATA and NVMe, so look more closely, please.
@wvjeepguy8178
@wvjeepguy8178 Жыл бұрын
I have a fairly recent MSI motherboard that has one pci m.2 and one sata m.2.
@remusik04
@remusik04 3 ай бұрын
Nice and concise. I wish I have checked out this video before buying the wrong ssd :))
@Wythaneye
@Wythaneye 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of compatibility between M.2 SATA and M.2 PCIe is frustrating. For those of us that still have (perfectly useful) M.2 SATA laptops, the drives are getting harder to find.
@KingstonTechnologyDE
@KingstonTechnologyDE 2 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for an M.2 SATA SSD we have the A400 M.2 here: kings.tn/3NR35z6
@QUANTUMJOKER
@QUANTUMJOKER 3 ай бұрын
For a long time, I thought that the mid-2012 MacBook Pros were the last MacBooks to use SATA hard-drives. While they ARE the last MacBooks to use 2.5-inch SATA hard-drives, the early 2013 MacBook Pros (and mid-2012 MacBook Airs) were the last MacBooks to use SATA of any kind (a form of mSATA).
@JohnPaulBuce
@JohnPaulBuce Жыл бұрын
thanks, i was so lost about this topic and this video really helped me
@Calango741
@Calango741 2 жыл бұрын
There actually are some NVMe M.2 drives that have two notches like the SATA M.2 drives commonly do; they're rare, but do exist.
@completelymindfucked
@completelymindfucked Жыл бұрын
What are these for?
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 2 жыл бұрын
In practice on a typical PC the speed difference between SATA and NVMe doesn't tend to be very noticeable, at least to me, and only a few specialist applications, like heavyweight video editing might perform significantly better. However, for a desktop I would go for the NVMe option anyway as the use of a SATA m.2 card generally steals one of the SATA interfaces.
@HerZeL3iDza
@HerZeL3iDza Жыл бұрын
It's an order of magnitude faster than sata in games that constantly stream in assets as you play (on a slow drive, the game will have micro freezes minutes after the level is loaded while you play). Their best use case are in these games.
@kermitthegaminghermit8736
@kermitthegaminghermit8736 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the clarification. I really had no idea. Very informative and concise!
@GSProjects12
@GSProjects12 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Although, I still don't understand what my Asus Z170M-plus board mean by "M.2 X4" and "M.2 Socket 3", which you did mention in your presentation at 1:57. The manual states that the M.2 slot is an "M-key". Wikipedia says that M.2 SATA is an "M & B Key". Now, I know my board is old (PCIe x3) and it's very easy to get an M-key NVMe PCIe x3 SSD, but the mystery to me is...... Will the NVMe work on my mobo with the mysterious "M.2 X4 Socket 3" information?
@zackpredojev9681
@zackpredojev9681 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for easy explanation spent last 30 min trying to figure this out on Google couldn't get a clear answer until I saw this, thank you
@kingston
@kingston 7 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@yanndubois4475
@yanndubois4475 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same 2,5' SSD, and it's very cool for my PC, and me.
@natejennings5884
@natejennings5884 9 ай бұрын
I have PCIe M.2 in two of muh rigs, and a SATA SSD in muh main rig. All access your operating system (Windows or Linux) faster than mechanical drives, run programs very fast, and fetch files super fast.
@elita2cents
@elita2cents 11 ай бұрын
So even though, I am familiar with some of the facts, I didn't know about the two notches for the SATA M.2 drives, so kudos for teaching me something new! I am using three KC3000 1TB drives as a RAID0 device on both my computers. At peak levels, those drives reach up to 22.000MB/s read and 17.000MB/s write speed. If I had a bigger budget, I would have chosen the RENEGADE drives instead. Before I forget, can you please bring back OPAL 2.0 encryption for the KC3000 series of drives please?
@izzycrybaby1164
@izzycrybaby1164 Жыл бұрын
She sounds like Velma from that one live-action Scooby-Doo movie 😗
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 9 ай бұрын
Next video suggestion: educate viewers of the nvme ssd drive's MASSIVE Achille's Heel - the 'slc cache write hole'. So many nvme drives, even the latest pcie gen5, will drop their write speeds to WAAAAAAAY below even an hdd's speed when that cache runs out !!!!!
@gooberminther3tik25
@gooberminther3tik25 Жыл бұрын
Finally 🥰 A video with the facts, Two versus One slot narrows it down in 3 words. Thanks
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 9 ай бұрын
There's just something soothingly more pleasing about watching a woman review tech than listening to some gruff fella, no offense to gruff fellas! 😅
@noelmasson6719
@noelmasson6719 9 ай бұрын
Transfer speeds are measured in Megabits per second (Mbps) - not Megabytes per second (MB/s)
@darklime211
@darklime211 Жыл бұрын
Connection matters for quality products. Might as well take advantage of the faster connection of PCIe
@DarkmoonWinter
@DarkmoonWinter 9 ай бұрын
Something I have noticed with alot of sata ssd's is after some games have finished a loading screen the screen will be almost completely white for a split second then the colors revert back to normal a second later. I have never known a pcie ssd to do this.
@mevk1
@mevk1 Жыл бұрын
I was that guy sweating bullets. Guess, if you want the scoop on memory the Kingston memory experts are your guide. Excellent summary! Just wish you'd also discussed real world differences. I have a 2019 Dell 5060 desktop with only a long-in-tooth a HDD. It has an M.2 PCI 3 x4 and a couple SATA ports. In reality, how much faster would a M.2 PCI.3 x4 be over a SATA SSD for typical consumer/business use?
@kingston
@kingston Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment! As for the difference The PCIe interface is generally faster, as the SATA 3.0 spec is limited to ~600MB/s maximum speed, while Gen 3 x4 lanes of up to 4000MB/s (depending on the host device). For more information please consult us via our Tech Support page: kings.tn/3DakQWz
@davidno3855
@davidno3855 2 жыл бұрын
I like how she slipped in NVMe as a descriptive after defining PCIe and SATA but didn’t bother to define or explain it lol
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
She got the important point across; SATA M.2 500MB/s and NVMe 7000MB/s
@Wlad1
@Wlad1 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayland7150 SATA/AHCI maxes out @560MB/s, while PCIe/NVMe ...well, 2 years ago was Gen3@3600, today Gen4@7400 and new Gen5 already announced with 13000/12000 read/write speeds. (14500 theoretically possible with future Gen5 SSDs) and in 2-3 years Gen6 will max out at ~29 GB/s.
@Metalhead-4life
@Metalhead-4life 2 жыл бұрын
Man I'm hungry for a berger all of a sudden
@FlankerB3
@FlankerB3 6 ай бұрын
my old wd blue sn520 512GB NVMe drive had two notches (also known as ngff form factor). And it worked with my old Asrock Fatality 990fx Killer Motherboard.
@harlech2
@harlech2 2 жыл бұрын
I come for the info, stay for the eyecandy!
@johnnilss
@johnnilss 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Trisha really is perfect for videos like these!
@twoshedsjackson6478
@twoshedsjackson6478 2 жыл бұрын
No she's not, her voice is the most annoying grating sound on Earth.
@johnnilss
@johnnilss 2 жыл бұрын
@@twoshedsjackson6478 Huh. I kinda enjoy her voice! But I guess I could be a bit biased since I've come to associate it with content I enjoy over the years...
@Mystic_Calmness
@Mystic_Calmness 2 жыл бұрын
while we talk about performances for gaming always wil be in option to chose the better one who are in domain with speed so even if is not easy affordable ppl always at most gamer will patiently collect money for the best option for any component even if that is related to the disk.
@zempire9633
@zempire9633 Жыл бұрын
We almost bought wrong ssd for our laptop. Thanks for this
@AintPopular
@AintPopular 2 жыл бұрын
This clears up alot of confusion
@rickhunter8216
@rickhunter8216 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO. MY DOUBT WAS CLEARED.
@austinstallion8187
@austinstallion8187 2 жыл бұрын
What camera are you using to film this? The quality is amazing!
@rogerrabbito4517
@rogerrabbito4517 5 ай бұрын
Gaming: NVMe M.2 - lays flat on the board. Some will be located on the back of the main board (motherboard) some will be located on the front. To simplify - it's all about moving information quickly from point a to point b. Think of it as a highway - more lanes fit more information - where will you notice it most? Gaming - high amounts of data transfer. When there's a lot going on, you need fast read and write times, which equals speed and efficiency. Hope this helps explain the process a bit.
@TheEthNick
@TheEthNick 2 жыл бұрын
A2000 (1TB) & KC2500 (2TB) owner here. PCIe all the way baby!
@kchaney56
@kchaney56 4 ай бұрын
Best tech vid I have seen in a long time. Accurate, concise and well presented. Thank you
@The300ZXGuru
@The300ZXGuru 10 ай бұрын
the thing is is that its hard to find motherboard with the 5 so i can reach my true potential of my t700 crucial 4tb 12k read drive
@diskgrind3410
@diskgrind3410 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 4, go for bigger than 500GB you'll get more performance.
@baddmatt9588
@baddmatt9588 2 жыл бұрын
1st! That out of the way, one thing this video did not address was which to use if you were making a USB bus powered external storage device. Use SATA, not NVMe. The USB port does not put out enough power for NVMe devices, but does for SATA.
@Wlad1
@Wlad1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of external SSDs, SATA@USB3.0, NVMe @USB3.2 Gen2/Gen2x2,USB4.0... all of them have no issues.
@baddmatt9588
@baddmatt9588 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wlad1 I should have clarified. I was meaning NVMe via USB 2.0 and 3.0 buses.
@xlr555usa
@xlr555usa 2 жыл бұрын
I have a small usb enclosure that can run nvme m.2 Gen 3 drives
@baddmatt9588
@baddmatt9588 2 жыл бұрын
@@xlr555usa bus powered or self powered? If bus powered, can you run it on USB 2.0 or 3.0 buses? That was what I was referring to in my original post.
@xlr555usa
@xlr555usa 2 жыл бұрын
@@baddmatt9588 it works on usb 3.0 or higher
@stephenroberts643
@stephenroberts643 Жыл бұрын
thank you still learning
@danieledomenicali
@danieledomenicali Жыл бұрын
Very clear concise explanation. And very cute you! Thank you.
@markissboi3583
@markissboi3583 2 жыл бұрын
Easy way to optimise your M2 ssd - Win10 > file explorer >C: folder > properties > tools > optimize your M2 5 secs done no apps needed
@markissboi3583
@markissboi3583 2 жыл бұрын
i do about every 2 weeks 1st after cleaning temp folders etc then reboot pc goes faster again i use the free Revo uninstaller app deleting /cleaning out removing apps old files cleans any traces left behind so never any Conflicts with old files take your time to learn worth it pc runs like cloak work
@zamb0nio
@zamb0nio 2 жыл бұрын
i already know the differences but watched the video anyway
@8bitsamurai6
@8bitsamurai6 Жыл бұрын
Didnt you used to work for a differnt channel? Or you were on that d and d show on pluto?
@richardskead1
@richardskead1 7 ай бұрын
well that cleared that up for me , nice n simple . thanks
@NetStrider
@NetStrider 2 ай бұрын
This was very helpful, thank you.
@matthewsquires423
@matthewsquires423 2 жыл бұрын
And i have a seagate barracuda 1tb hdd (yes it has platters in it lol) that works amazing today along side my crucial ssd.
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 2 жыл бұрын
4:00 well the script could have added that the SATA protocol still exists because NVMe is only impressive with large file transfers, not on loading games, system updates, or app installation where the SATA can keep up.
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 2 жыл бұрын
that's... not true?
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 2 жыл бұрын
@@afriendofafriend5766 just read any SSD review on Toms hardware
@panagiotisgalinos1335
@panagiotisgalinos1335 2 жыл бұрын
try to load 4K ms flight sim textures on SATA and on nvme pcie and ull see if the game is loading faster
@wstritt
@wstritt 3 күн бұрын
Don’t listen to this guy, he has no clue what he’s saying. Play a game with a huge file and you’ll notice a difference between SATA and NVME
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 3 күн бұрын
@@wstritt you are referring to a SATA HDD. I'm referring to an SSD with SATA interface vs NVME. Only few second difference in game loads and it has more to do with the newer SSDs vs old ones....check yourself in old articles/benchmarks.
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande Жыл бұрын
Oh there she is, I found my dream woman 😂❤ 🤓
@lindah6954
@lindah6954 2 жыл бұрын
It is best to know what type your system will support before buying.
@KingstonTechnologyDE
@KingstonTechnologyDE 2 жыл бұрын
Very true Linda and you can contact us on our website and check the part selector here: kings.tn/3ML51bf
@zilverman7820
@zilverman7820 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation and difference on those ssd.
@specialkalberta
@specialkalberta Жыл бұрын
One question I had that I don't think was discussed was whether there is a difference between M.2 NVMe (which I guess is the same as PCIe? not sure) on a motherboard vs. M.2 NVMe on a PCIe expansion slot via an adapter card and if there are any issues like what kind of slot the adapter card is in or any other specs re: the card itself. I just bought an old computer with an M.2 slot but found out it's only for a PCI adapter assembly (Lenovo M900 tower computer) so I'm getting an M.2 adapter card for PCI Express card slot (physical link width x16; negotiable link width x4, x1) so I can use an M.2 NVMe SSD. The card is supposed to fit in PCIe X4 or X8 or X16 slots.
@kingston
@kingston Жыл бұрын
Hello there the NVMe SSD is the Bus interface while the PCIe would be the physical/logical interface. If you are going to use an adapter make sure you check the specifications of the manufacture to make sure it can accommodate an M.2 NVMe 2280 SSD. Also we found a posting pertaining to using an NVMe SSD and adapter on your system: kings.tn/3KP5eLq
@honahwikeepa2115
@honahwikeepa2115 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I know what I'm looking at now.
@einsteinwasright1044
@einsteinwasright1044 Жыл бұрын
At 2:00 in the video you claim that an M.2 SSD can only support one protocol. Perhaps that limitation applies to Kingston SSDs, but I recently installed a gen3 Crucial P3 Plus M.2 SSD (connector has only one notch) into an Acer tower PC and it ran at SATA speeds, not NVMe. When I moved the same SSD into a slightly newer Acer tower PC, it ran much faster, at NVMe speeds. So here we have an M.2 SSD that supports both SATA and NVMe protocols, although not, obviously, simultaneously. The BIOS / UEFI determines which protocol to use, but the availability of NVMe may be limited by the chipset PCIe generation. If the motherboard / BIOS / UEFI doesn't support NVMe in the M.2 slot then the Crucial SSD "falls back" to SATA. At 2:41 in the video you stated that Gen 3x4 maximum speed is 4000 MB/s, so how do you reconcile this with your statement at 3:38 in the video claiming that the Kingston KC3000 NVMe SSD can run 7000 MB/s read and write speeds, which shouldn't be physically possible? It's also hard to believe that the write speed is as fast as the read speed.
@kingston
@kingston Жыл бұрын
Hello, M.2 SSDs will support either NVMe or SATA, but the M.2 port on the motherboard can support both SATA and NVMe. The Crucial P3 Plus was probably still running in NVMe and potentially at slower Gen 3 x1 speeds due to the older M.2 port, which is perhaps why it performs better on the newer Acer Tower. Remember, PCIe Gen 3 can go up to x16, but most NVMe SSDs only go up to x4. Now, our KC3000 is PCIe Gen 4 x4, which doubles the performance in both read and write speeds. Our 2 TB and 4 TB capacities can support up to 7000 MB/s. If you have any other questions or concerns, visit our support page: kings.tn/3leJG20, or send us a direct message via Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook Messenger. PCIe speeds explanation: kings.tn/3LraG9p
@MariAmmaSar
@MariAmmaSar 6 ай бұрын
I've read many of these fast NVMe M.2 SSDs' self limit themselves on speed based on temperature - they overheat unless you add an internal cooling fan ?
@Wlad1
@Wlad1 6 ай бұрын
In most cases cheap thin cooling sink does the job. But almost all mainboards have already one pre-installed.
@-whackd
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
If I buy this new m2 memory and have a decade old motherboard with pcie slot, will it work in there?
@MsAxelfoly
@MsAxelfoly 2 жыл бұрын
I am using nvme ssd on my motherboard with 1155 socket by modding the bios :)
@DarrenC_1024
@DarrenC_1024 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using SN350 on Socket 1150 main board, no BIOS mod required, just get a BIOS update from the board manufacturer.
@MsAxelfoly
@MsAxelfoly 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenC_1024 i said for cards that do not have this feature.
@victorlee5084
@victorlee5084 2 жыл бұрын
Pero no vienen con el sujetador. Compre una y no hayo sujetador para atornillarlo a la placa base.
@Inmate533
@Inmate533 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between PCI-e and NVME PCI-e?
@kingston
@kingston 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your inquiry and there is a lot of information about that so if you need supplemental info to this video, please visit our site here to learn more: kings.tn/3flntfs
@Inmate533
@Inmate533 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingston Thanks for the reply, but that really didn't help.
@kingston
@kingston 2 жыл бұрын
PCIe is a standard bus interface that works with many things, video cards, audio cards, ethernet cards, RAID cards, and solid state drives (SSDs). NVMe, is an interface specification for communication with next generation form factor (NGFF) and solid state drives, and functionally, a PCIe bus. More inf here on 'M.2 SSDs explained': kings.tn/3flntfs
@Inmate533
@Inmate533 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingston You should rename that page you linked to “M.2 SSDs explained, except for NVME” because NVME is not mentioned at all. And again thank you for the reply, but it didn’t answer my question. When I see an M.2 SSD labeled as PCI-e and the next M.2 SSD is labeled NVME PCI-e, what is the difference between those two drives?
@kingston
@kingston 2 жыл бұрын
Ok it sounds like you are requesting further details, so please contact our Tech Support Team where we can discuss with you more. You can chat or email us here kings.tn/3y3V6c6 Thank you
@OriginalMergatroid
@OriginalMergatroid Жыл бұрын
I hope your realize that NVMe and SATA are not "form factors"? The different physical sizes are form factors, but the interface is not a form factor.
@aben776
@aben776 2 жыл бұрын
Informative video on the basics.
@kaffepojke
@kaffepojke Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of a very confusing topic. Thank you.
@mrwang420
@mrwang420 2 жыл бұрын
Sata max speed 600MB/s PCIe 3.0 32GB/s Only difference ya need to know really.
@Wlad1
@Wlad1 2 жыл бұрын
1. PCIe3.0 = 16GB/s (@16xPCIe Lanes) or 4GB/s brutto for typical 4xLanes NVMe-SSD (about 3940MB/s netto). Theoretically. Practically you can reach ~560MB/s with SATA and 3725MB/s with PCIe3.0. And 7450MB/s with PCIe4.0. 2. Maximum sequential speeds are not nearly as important, as you imagine. Random speeds @small files (4KB to 128KB) are the most important for snappy system.
@williamabaiz7514
@williamabaiz7514 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 9 ай бұрын
Great explanation! Thanks!
@AbsolutelyJason
@AbsolutelyJason 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@KM-cm1jp
@KM-cm1jp 2 жыл бұрын
Hottest nerd ever.
@MooseKnuckleWarrior
@MooseKnuckleWarrior Жыл бұрын
Very insightful 👍 Your comment alone, is proof of the how far we've come thus far and gives me peace when I think about the future of human evolution 🙏
@KM-cm1jp
@KM-cm1jp Жыл бұрын
@@MooseKnuckleWarriortips fedora. Thank you.
@christopheryow951
@christopheryow951 4 ай бұрын
Thank you it’s been a big help
@reedy8585
@reedy8585 2 жыл бұрын
You want the m.2 NVME type which is interfaced over Pci-e which is capable of much higher data transfer speed often in the region of 5 times that of sata but exact performance comes down to the individual drive and operating conditions mainly relating in relation temperature.
@helifynoe9930
@helifynoe9930 7 ай бұрын
Once I installed an Envy ME card, things sped up significantly.
@physicsbystanprisajny6284
@physicsbystanprisajny6284 2 жыл бұрын
= a warp drive?
@matteyles7466
@matteyles7466 2 жыл бұрын
Great info. Are there any considerations for connecting to a Samsung Tablet?
@kingston
@kingston 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there if you need to connect a Type-C External drive we have the XS2000 on our website here: kings.tn/3AUg0Lv
@allano7814
@allano7814 3 ай бұрын
Question, which one would taste better? pcie or SATA flavored gum?
@terrabyte-techy
@terrabyte-techy 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@justin_time
@justin_time Жыл бұрын
Does Kingston Technologies @kingston sell a PCI-ex1 to PCIe M.2 or PCI-ex16 to PCIe M.2 adapter? My computer is old and did not come with either a SATA M.2 SSD or PCIe M.2, but I would still like to upgrade to get some more speed affordably out of my old desktop.
@kingston
@kingston Жыл бұрын
Hello Justin, We do not sell any PCIe M.2 adapters.
@coolquitepowerful
@coolquitepowerful Жыл бұрын
Just beautiful
@desmondphn6456
@desmondphn6456 2 жыл бұрын
Liked, Subscribed, and enabled bell icon for all the notifications.
@MatthewSuffidy
@MatthewSuffidy 2 жыл бұрын
When I got my motherboard (Asus Prime B350 Plus) I almost threw out the little screw. Hopefully I did in fact save it. I have not evolved out of my 2 SATA hard discs yet. One used to give me errors, but I moved it to a cpu SATA port and it stopped. Apparently those you can only have the m2 in or the drive, not both.
@oswaldoraymondi6856
@oswaldoraymondi6856 2 жыл бұрын
Excelente la información, precisa y detallada.
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