Will Pope Francis Ban Latin Mass This Year? Dr. Taylor Marshall

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Some are saying that an official Vatican document with the signature of Pope Francis is being drafted that will be the “end game” for the Traditional Latin Mass and the Traditional Catholic movement.
The general failure of Traditionis Custodes has liberal Modernists in the Vatican hungry for a second course of restrictions. Are the rumors true. Dr. Taylor Marshall weighs with his analysis.
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[@katarinateburcia3046]

Dr. Marshall....I've always loved you little enuendos. You always crack me up while speaking the truth to us lay people. Some get it, some don't. I do and I love it! Keep spreading the truth, no matter what. Your reward is unseen.

[@0311catholic]

Guys pray for me im a catholic and im in a very dark place spiritually and mentally please my brother's and sisters

[@TyranyFighterPatriot]

You a vet? What war?

[@baysideharpy8350]

I’m very lucky and blessed to have an SSPX chapel nearby so that’s where I go.

[@teresaritchie2177]

I love the reverence a Latin mass delivers, I’m a cradle Catholic and was so upset when the NO mass came into being, my current church has a Tridentine mass once per month, a Latin rosary once a month, at Sunday mass verse can be English/Latin… Mass in Latin is beautiful, reverent, holy and makes some feel that their concentration whilst praying to God is more intense… why cant congregations be listened to if Catholic congregations want Latin in the mass then it should be allowed to remain.

[@edtrent3789]

The Final countdown is by Europe and the funny part is that they are going to be in concert in Trent ( council of Trent) Italy this summer.

[@racheljames7]

No way, that's so weird 😂 I love it.

[@Alex-gy6gz]

I have always had a deep love for Catholic masses in Latin. As a young girl in secular public school, we would sing songs in Latin for our Christmas concert. Gratias agimus tibi, Dona nobis pacem, ave Maria etc. imagine that, a bunch of 12 year olds reciting songs 1000 yrs old! I loved it. The few times I went to church as a kid I was in awe of the beauty of the language. I yearned for Catholicism. As an adult coming into the church, I was a little shocked at how “lax” the American novus ordo mass is. I was surprised I could understand the priest. I didn’t realize my Dads side of the family was very traditional, old school Catholics until I went to the parish in my new town. (Of course my grandma was old school, she was born in the 40s before novus ordo existed!) I remember mass being in Latin and I just thought it was like that everywhere. I was expecting some “espiritu sanctu” or anything like that but no… it was all English. I don’t think it is necessarily BAD but the beauty of Latin is missing. I feel like the Latin versions are more attractive, you feel like you are learning a big part of hidden history. I love the fact that you could attend a Catholic Latin mass anywhere in the world and still follow along. Here in the suburbs of NY, there are barely any TLMs anymore. Probably 2 within a 50 mile radius, and that’s only once a week. I wish they offered more Latin services. Latin enriches our lives more than we know- you learn roots and meanings of words you’d probably never care to learn, you can understand foreign languages better when traveling (because a lot of languages are derived from Latin), you have an upper hand when learning about science (periodic table elements) and medical terms because they still use Latin roots. Why? Cause it’s universal. We cannot let Latin die! If the TLM is banned, the church becomes very similar to that of a modern, American Protestant church. That’s just my thoughts.

[@loist9022]

Beautiful experience that you were very fortunate to have. Do not let it go to waste....Even if you cannot get to a TLM as often as you would like.... Remember to say some Latin prayers in your home. That way your rich experience as a youngster will be fruitful even today!! You are blessed.

[@CatalinaSiena]

God took me to the Traditional Mass, I was already tired of seeing how the Lord is mistreated at the Novus Ordo Mass, my son has already begun to serve at the altar, and it is incredible how in such a short time my son is seriously dedicated to this service. Blessed God and blessed be the traditional Mass.🙏🏻

[@jameshogan6142]

Decades ago I used to feel a filial devotion to our pope and a willingness to pray for his intentions and follow his decrees.

[@jeffgriscoa8131]

He has no right to suppress the Latin mass. We don’t have to obey this type of behavior from anyone. That’s like taking your most powerful medicine away from you! God is not for this and neither are we!

[@user-ge9yk2mm8p]

Dr. Marshall, didn’t you always say the “Our Father” in Latin on your show? I remember hearing it and really love hearing it though I do not know Latin. It’s very comforting and beautiful.

[@gregorymikula4249]

Dear JohnLovesMary...God bless you and Our Lady guide you as you begin your service at the altar of the Traditional Roman Rite of Mass. Ave Maria!

[@johnarellano8212]

Final countdown is a song by Europe a Swedish rock band in the 80s led by Joey Tempest

[@roseangela2797]

Thank you very much, Dr Marshall. HOD BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY.

[@christinereich6050]

I love my Douay-Rheims bible. Interestingly enough I believe it was Dr. Marshall who suggested it back in the day, on the radio. Later I discovered him on YT.

[@zalobo]

PRAY, PRAY, PRAY FOR THE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST !!!

[@StanislausJoseph2021]

Dr. Marshall, you've got your "Amen".

[@andreamariterickson5885]

I went to the TLM today. Father said things will get worse but we will weather this storm as long as we have a disciplined prayer life. Father also said that the papal document on the final solution for the Tlm that will come out this year on July 16. pray and fast. Seriously, that's what he said. My annual 33 days of prayer before my anniversary of total consecration to Jesus through Mary began June 13. Not saying there is a significance between the two.

[@loist9022]

Yes. Your priest is right. We must all pray and fast. Thanks for following his good advice. May you be blessed.

[@JohnLovesMary]

I am 14 years old, and in July I am going to be trained as an Altar boy for the Tridentine Mass! I regularly serve at the N.O. mass, but now it's getting less reverent and Jesus is suffering so much, and I am praying for the complete restoration of the church to come very soon so that Christ may be glorified on His day and not tortured. Vivo Christo Ray.

[@deluge848]

HOW BEAUTIFUL YOUNG MAN!!! I CAN SEE YOU BECOMING A VERY HOLY TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC PRIEST!! GOD LOVE YOU!!!

[@mrsducky3428]

This gives me hope for the future generations!

[@barbaramprisco5593]

God bless you, young man. I join you in prayer for the return of the TLM w/ the humility & reverence that accompany it. 🙏⛪️🙏

[@user-qf7lp1yb4l]

Awesome comment. Many blessings to you. May you grow in the grace of the Lord under the constant protection of Our Lady and Saint Joseph.

[@loist9022]

God love and bless you. May you become a holy saint.

[@cianmoriarty7345]

I go to the FSSP. The priests are fantastic. The parishioners are fantastic. The men's group is fantastic. The liturgy frequently moves me to tears. But it is a three hour round trip for me. When I have three Catholic churches in walking distance.

[@mikesteele5498]

Amen! Dr. Taylor Marshall 🌵

[@shanseli7490]

St Pius V, Pray for us

[@janicecolon-mahoney5397]

Very interesting, had no idea. Thanks

[@eugeniadoucette4510]

One Pope should never go against any predecessor in regards to anything that is good and wholesome especially the traditional liturgy just for hermeneutic of continuity. Messing with the mass like this is very dangerous and causes scandal and confusion. It's like saying a certain Saint is not a saint anymore bc of the changing times. It's insane

[@VeronicaJohnson-cq5xp]

Amen, Amen, Amen. St Pope Pius V Pray for us.

[@zsofiasz.8533]

I would love to register but I’m in Hungary. Is it going to be available to watch later in a different form? :) Thank you 🙏

[@Mark3ABE]

Cardinal Roche (Prefect of the Dicastery for the Liturgy) announced some time ago that the Tridentine Form of the Mass represented a Theology now no longer acceptable to the Church and must be discontinued entirely. He was wrong on so many counts. Firstly, the Council decreed that all existing forms of the Liturgy were to be reverenced and preserved. The Council intended that the Tridentine form of the Mass should remain unaltered - with parts (not all) being translated directly into the vernacular. So, it was not the Theology which was out of date, but the language. Secondly, it is impossible to state that the Theology is wrong, since that is to say that the Church taught error for five hundred years. An unkind English friend who knows (and likes) Cardinal Roche commented that he is a lovely man, but that if his brains were dynamite, there would be enough in there to blow his hat off.

[@Mark-rd1it]

The final count down was by Europe. You have a great voice Taylor. I am serious. You could be a singer as well as a writer.

[@MommaNanaKay]

The local FSSP priest has already been requested (required?) to attend the diocesan Chrism Mass and he has attended for the last two years. Our bishop is not friendly to the TLM and our diocese is a mess. We are looking elsewhere.

[@b.c.h.u.a]

Ours in Parramatta NSW allows FSSP to continue. Which location are you.

[@JDeF.39]

About a year ago I registered in a second parish where the TLM is celebrated every Sunday morning. My other (more frequent parish) is only about 10 mins away and they quit the TLM a couple of years ago when their one Benedictine priest was transferred. I admit I go there when the weather is bad or I have no other choice but I miss the TLM and go to my 2nd parish as often as I can...I live in the suburbs and it is located in downtown Detroit...so if the weather is bad and I cannot get there alone (I am a 73yo widow) I don't go. I miss it like crazy, grew up with it, want it EVERY TIME. I don't know what else to do... 😥 ...

[@andreamariterickson5885]

Contact the parish office and ask them to put a notice in the bulletin asking for a volunteer to drive you to mass.

[@loist9022]

You are doing the right thing. You go to the Tridentine Mass as often as you can. Good job. Bless you!

[@josemont4291]

Some traditions have been lost because the "faithful" Catholics do not practice them any more! You know what I mean, you lose something because you don't care about it

[@josephsmith976]

Is there a way to watch the webcast? I just saw this and I cannot sign up to see the recording as it says it took place already.

[@NovusDisorder-so6un]

Dr. Taylor Marshall, where will we go? What will we do?

[@chiaramaria308]

I belong to a TLM Parish and will never go to an irregular Society, or independent Catholic Church. No. What we WANT or prefer cannot pull us away from the faith. Persecution is nothing new. We may lose all Masses, and have to go underground. Until then, stay the course. One other point, let's cut back on the fear mongering also. Where is the faith in Divine Providence here.

[@GKC97]

So you will attend “underground Mass” presumably offered in open defiance of the Pope and the local Bishop, but you will “never” go to the SSPX. Just go to the SSPX folks. Don’t buy into the circular FSSP brain washing. Vatican 2 is a Masonic Robber Council that managed to bind the faithful to absolutely nothing. Lefebver is a Hero of the Faith.

[@anthonymckinney9904]

There are way too many protestants here. I wonder how many people know that the Mass is a discipline.

[@lizmiddleton2382]

Love it, Amen! We need tradition so that the evil one stays away from us! We really need holy Pope. 😊

[@user-qf7lp1yb4l]

Dear Dr Marshall, thanks for this lecture. It is also important to bring to everyone's attention on the final period on Quo Primum Papal bull. Here is the English text: "Therefore, no one whosoever is permitted to alter this notice of Our permission, statute, ordinance, command, precept, grant, indult, declaration, will, decree, and prohibition. Should know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul". It seems that no changes were allowed, even for centuries after its promulgation on the 14th July 1570. As clear as daylight, I would say. I am adding the original text: Pius Episcopus Servus Servorum Dei Ad Perpetuam Rei Memoriam Quo primo tempore ad Apostolatus apicem assumpti fuimus, ad ea libenter animum, viresque nostras intendimus, et cogitationes omnes direximus, quae ad Ecclesiasticum purum retinendum cultum pertinerent, eaque parare, et Deo ipso adjuvante, omni adhibito studio efficere contendimus. Cumque inter alia sacri Tridentini Concilii decreta, nobis statuendum esset de sacris libris, Catechismo, Missali et Breviario edendis atque emendandis: edito jam, Deo ipso annuente, ad populi eruditionem Catechismo, et ad debitas Deo persolvendas laudes Breviario castigato, omnino, ut Breviario Missale responderet, ut congruum est et conveniens (cum unum in Ecclesia Dei psallendi modum, unum Missae celebrandae ritum esse maxime deceat), necesse jam videbatur, ut, quod reliquum in hac parte esset, de ipso nempe Missali edendo, quam primum cogitaremus. Quare eruditis delectis viris onus hoc demandandum duximus: qui quidem, diligenter collatis omnibus cum vetustis nostrae Vaticanae Bibliothecae, aliisque undique conquisitis, emendatis atque incorruptis codicibus; necnon veterum consultis ac probatorum auctorum scriptis, qui de sacro eorumdem rituum instituto monumenta Nobis reliquerunt, ad pristinam Missale ipsum sanctorum Patrum normam ac ritum restituerunt. Quod recognitum jam et castigatum, matura adhibita consideratione, ut ex hoc instituto, coeptoque labore, fructus omnes percipiant, Romae quam primum imprimi, atque impressum edi mandavimus: nempe ut sacerdotes intelligant, quibus precibus uti, quos ritus, quasve caeremonias in Missarum celebratione retinere posthac debeant. Ut autem a sacrosancta Romana Ecclesia, ceterarum Ecclesiarum matre et magistra, tradita ubique amplectantur omnes et observent, ne in posterum perpetuis futuris temporibus in omnibus Christiani orbis Provinciarum Patriarchalibus, Cathedralibus, Collegiatis et Parochialibus, saecularibus, et quorumvis Ordinum, monasteriorum, tam virorum, quam mulierum, etiam militiarum regularibus, ac sine cura Ecclesiis vel Capellis, in quibus Missa Conventualis alta voce cum Choro, aut demissa, celebrari juxta Romanae Ecclesiae ritum consuevit vel debet, alias quam juxta Missalis a nobis editi formulam decantetur, aut recitetur, etiamsi eaedem Ecclesiae quovis modo exemptae, Apostolicae Sedis indulto, consuetudine, privilegio, etiam juramento, confirmatione Apostolica, vel aliis quibusvis facultatibus munitae sint; nisi ab ipsa prima institutione a Sede Apostolica adprobata, vel consuetudine, quae, vel ipsa institutio super ducentos annos Missarum celebrandarum in eisdem Ecclesiis assidue observata sit: a quibus, ut praefatam celebrandi constitutionem vel consuetudinem nequaquam auferimus; sic si Missale hoc, quod nunc in lucem edi curavimus, iisdem magis placeret, de Episcopi, vel Praelati. Capitulique universi consensu, ut, quibusvis non obstantibus, juxta illud Missas celebrare possint, permittimus; ex aliis vero omnibus Ecclesiis praefatis eorumdem Missalium usum tollendo, illaque penitus et omnio rejiciendo, ac huic Missali nostro nuper edito, nihil unquam addendum, detrahendum, aut immutandum esse decernendo, sub indignationis nostrae poena, hac nostra perpetuo valitura constitutione statuimus et ordinamus. Mandantes ac districte omnibus et singulis Ecclesiarum praedictarum Patriarchis, Administratoribus, aliisque personis quacumque Ecclesiastica dignitate fulgentibus, etiamsi S.R.E. Cardinales, aut cujusvis alterius gradus et praeeminentiae fuerint, illis in virtute sanctae obedientiae praecipientes, ut ceteris omnibus rationibus et ritibus ex aliis Missalibus quantumvis vetustis hactenus observari consuetis, in posterum penitus omissis, ac plane rejectis, Missam juxta ritum, modum, ac normam, quae per Missale hoc a Nobis nunc traditur, decantent ac legant; neque in Missae celebratione alias caeremonias, vel preces, quam quae hoc Missali continentur, addere vel recitare praesumant. Atque ut hoc ipsum Missale in Missa decantanda, aut recitanda in quibusvis Ecclesiis absque ullo conscientiae scrupulo, aut aliquarum poenarum, sententiarum et censurarum incursu, posthac omnino sequantur, eoque libere et licite uti possint et valeant, auctoritate Apostoloca, tenore praesentium, etiam perpetuo concedimus et indulgemus. Neve Praesules, Administratores, Canonici, Capellani et alii quocumque nomine nuncupati Presbyteri saeculares, aut cujusvis Ordinis regulares, ad Missam aliter quam a nobis statutum est, celebrandam teneantur: neque ad Missale hoc immutandum a quolibet cogi et compelli, praesentesve litterae ullo umquam tempore revocari, aut moderari possint, sed firmae semper et validae in suo exsistant robore, similiter statuimus et declaramus. Non obstantibus praemissis, ac constitutionibus, et ordinationibus Apostolicis, ac in Provincialibus et Synodalibus Conciliis editis generalibus, vel specialibus constitutionibus, et ordinationibus, nec non Ecclesiarum praedictarum usu, longissima et immemorabili praescriptione, non tamen supra ducento annos, roborato, statutis et consuetudinibus contrariis quibuscumque. Volumus autem et eadem auctoritate decernimus, ut post hujus nostrae constitutionis, ac Missalis editionem, qui in Romana adsunt Curia Presbyteri post mensem; qui vero intra montes, post tres; et qui ultra montes incolunt, post sex menses, aut cum primum illis Missale hoc venale propositum fuerit, juxta illud Missam decantare, vel legere teneantur. Quod ut ubique terrarum incorruptum, ac mendis et erroribus purgatum praeservetur, omnibus in nostro et S.E.R. dominio mediate, vel immeditate subjecto commorantibus impressoribus, sub amissionis librorum, ac centum ducatorum auri Camerae Apostolicae ipso facto applicandorum: aliis vero in quacumque orbis parte consistentibus, sub excommunicationis latae sententiae, et aliis arbitrii nostri poenis, ne sine nostra vel speciali ad id Apostolici Commissarii in eisdem partibus a nobis constituendi, licentia, ac nisi per eumdem Commissarium eidem impressore Missalis exemplum, ex quo aliorum imprimendorum ab ipso impressore erit accipienda norma, cum Missali in Urbe secundum magnum impressionem impresso collatum fuisse, et concordare, nec in ullo penitus discrepare prius plena fides facta fuerit, imprimere, vel proponere, vel recipere ullo modo audeant, vel praesumant, auctoritate Apostolica et tenore praesentium similibus inhibemus. Verum, quia difficile esset praesentes litteras ad quaeque Christiani orbis loca deferri, ac primo quoque tempore in omnium notitiam perferri, illas ad Basilicae Principis Apostolorum, ac Cancellariae Apostolicae, et in acie Campi Florae de more publicari et affigi, ac earumdem litterarum exemplis etiam impressis, ac manu alicujus publici tabellionis subscriptis, nec non sigillo personae in dignitate ecclesiastica constitutae munitis, eamdem prorsus indubitatam fidem ubique gentium et locorum, haberi praecipimus, quae praesentibus haberetur, si ostenderentur vel exhiberentur. Nulli ergo omnino hominum liceat hanc paginam nostrae permissionis, statuti, ordinationis, mandati, praecepti, concessionis, indulti, declarationis, voluntatis, decreti et inhibitionis infringere, vel ei ausu temeratio contraire. Si quis autem hoc attentare praesumpserit, indignationem omnipotentis Dei, ac beatorum Petri et Pauli Apostolorum ejus se noverit incursurum. Datum Romae apud S. Petrum, anno Incarnationis Dominicae millesimo quingentesimo septuagesimo, pridie Idus Julii, Pontificatus nostri anno quinto. Caesar Glorierius

[@loist9022]

Wow. Thank you for that. Really good to know!

[@user-qf7lp1yb4l]

@loist9022 Thanks so much for your gracious comment. I enjoy reporting original texts after analysing them. I am so glad I studied Latin and still master it after so many years. Blessings in Our Lord, Our Lady and Saint Joseph. Saint Peter and Paul pray for us.

[@mmont]

Questions: So, the replacing of the Tridentine Mass with the Novus Ordo was illicit, right? And if the Tridentine liturgy was established in perpetuity by the Pope's absolute authority, then that's without a doubt an infallible pronouncement on our shared faith, correct?

[@Millingtorres]

Not correct. Pius V amended his own missal, so did the Pope that added the feast of Pius V and various other changes have happened to the missal up to the 1962 version. If you take Dr Marshall's stance here then all of those Popes, including Pius V himself, brought upon themselves the wrath of the apostles by amending the missal. Mediator Dei paragraph 58 makes it clear that the Pope can approve or introduce new rites. Quo Primum was promulgated as a disciplinary bull using the language typical of such documents of the time. A Pope cannot bind his successors on disciplinary matters, which liturgical rites fall into. There are good arguments as to why the TLM should be celebrated more widely, that Quo Primum is still binding is not one of them.

[@emilios9216]

I live in California, after many years of looking for a church that celebrated the Latin Mass, I found one, which I have been attending, a couple of months, the priest on the homily, told us to follow the teachings of Pop Francis, that there many propaganda against his actions, that if we were listening and not wanting to follow Pop Francis we were excommunicated. He used a different word but, when I told this to my confessor, he called excomunión

[@marccrotty8447]

Emilios. Your Priest is confused. Pope Francis documents are trash.

[@debbiescott3889]

What church?

[@marriedkiwi]

Are you recommending the final countdown song for the end of the latin mass?

[@Dee-mj3pu]

Thank you!

[@priscillatutuvanu9799]

Ban the Novus Ordo not the latin Mass ❤ the father the son and the holy Ghost

[@christineplaton3048]

Total Restoration is absolutely necessary. It's non arguable. Bull Quo Primum.

[@stephanilance289]

Dr. Taylor, who are your top five Pope's?

[@user-do5qk3fj3k]

What I don’t understand is how could the Church change our Holy Mass of All Ages and restrict it despite the Pius V’s Quo Primum. This is the most devastating to me - not only is it restricted but now its existence threatened all together. However, I’m certain that with God’s help we won’t allow it to happen. That we’ve learned on our parents’ and grandparents’ mistakes. Quo Primum is a great gift from Puis V, so we should use it going forward. Along with Benedict XVI’s Summorum Pontificum.

[@Millingtorres]

What I don't understand is how could the Church change our Holy Mass of All Ages and restrict it despite Pius V's Quo Primum" - because Quo Primum was a disciplinary bull which does not bind his future successors. Pius V himself changed the missal by adding a feast, as did the Pope who added the feast of Pius V, Pius X who changed the calendar, and Pius XII who amended the Holy Week rites. Pius XII's Mediator Dei paragraph 58 confirms: "the Sovereign Pontiff alone enjoys the right to recognise and establish any practice touching the worship of God, to introduce and approve new rites, as also to modify those he judges to require modification". I've said this a few times in this thread but there are numerous reasons why the TLM should be celebrated more widely, Quo Primum being binding on Pius V's successors is not one of them.

[@FrankOBrien-ti7ny]

In Ireland Catholicism was banned by the English for over two hundred years so we had Mass in secret at Mass Rocks. The catacombs in Rome also come to mind. The Novus Ordo mass is now a Protestant service. Francis cannot ban the Latin Mass because he is not the Pope. The last true Pope died in 1958. Anyway Jesus never said: "When it was Sunday you went to Mass." Rather "When I was hungry you gave me to eat ... So long as you did this to the least of these you did it to me." 'The least of these' is now the unborn baby.

[@concernedcitizen780]

If forced to go to a Novos Ordo mass one solution might be to place 1 cent in and envelope and a card that says bring back the Traditional Latin Mass and I’ll put in 20$+

[@loist9022]

Good.

[@nikkisanner1496]

What quo primum said doesn’t matter to the current hierarchy. They expect you to follow their “rules” but none apply to them!!! Ask bishop Strickland about how quo primum protected him from being removed.

[@francislocke5094]

It was in force for 399 years without challenge. That makes it Tradition and must be accepted

[@leaverus]

Europe

[@marie-bernadettebenedict3007]

I’m legally blind. The closest TLM I can get to is a walk, 2 trains, and a further walk away to get to. I have to leave at 8am to get to Mass at 10:30, and it’s impossible to get to in the winter when it’s too dark in the mornings and the weather makes it difficult to travel with my multiple other disabilities not just sight impairment

[@mariekatherine5238]

Are you in NYC?

[@eddieschwab864]

Uber not a viable option to get there?

[@marie-bernadettebenedict3007]

@@eddieschwab864 yes but it’s £30 per ride to travel that far.

[@marie-bernadettebenedict3007]

@@mariekatherine5238 no. England. Coventry specifically. The closest TLM is Birmingham

[@mariamartin94]

It’s understandable in your case that you can’t attend the TLM. I pray you have a reverent Novus Ordo nearby❤️🙏🏼

[@maryoregan6770]

Every time I hear the name of Cardinal Roche it reminds me that he was Bishop of Leeds England, during the time I lived there. I met him when he led our diocesan pilgrimages to Lourdes on several occasions. I had no idea then that he had those views on the liturgy. Wish I had.

[@Mosux2007]

He is one Roche that needs a Roche Motel.

[@ellem6050]

He's clearly one of those wolves in sheep's clothing we've been taught about.

[@davidkelly715]

The problem is that PPV cannot bind the popes to come after him. His authority ended the day he died.

[@Millingtorres]

Exactly, well said. Mediator Dei paragraph 58 makes this quite clear. There are good arguments for why the TLM should be available to be celebrated, Quo Primum still being binding is not one of them.

[@irenemoreirataitson1677]

I will go to the underground traditional church.

[@taroman7100]

It took time, devotion and it felt special. Look at what has become of the Stations of the Cross? Horrible. Just a hurry up world.

[@justasimplelife3857]

Firstly, Francis does not have the authority to ban the TLM. Secondly if he tries and FSSP does go along with the ban why doesn't the SSPX follow the ban. Because they know he can't.

[@truth7294]

2012 have any meaning to you?

[@justasimplelife3857]

Enlighten me.

[@mollyoneil809]

I think listening to Quo Primum just nailed the coffin in the Novus Ordo for me.

[@martyfenton6184]

This seems unachievable. Mass is said in hundreds of languages worldwide.

[@Vexx_Line_]

Only for the past 40-50 years, out of over 1600 years or more of it's existence (it was only codified during the Council of Trent but was in use going back to the ChurchFathers & Apostles according to evidence). You'd be surprised how much Latin you already know since it's the root for many modern languages, plus it's still used in medical, scientific, technical, legal language & people are able to deal. The missal has Latin on one column and a translation on the other so its easy to follow along. It's also prudent to remember that the Mass actually is, it's being offered on our behalf by the priest, not the people. The sections ment for the people are easy to learn & the gospel is read in Latin & vernacular. Latin is the sacred language of RCC. There were 3 languages which hung above Christ's head on the cross; Latin, Greek, Hebrew. The use of Latin promotes unity since anywhere anyone would travel, whether locally, across states/provinces & other countries; one could walk into a RCC & know exactly what was going on despite differences in language. Sadly, this unifying aspect is gone now. Also, the meaning & definition of the words do not change over time as with English or modern languages. It's important to note that the Tridentine Rite also contains some Greek, as in the Kyrie Eleison & some Hebrew such as, Hosanna. Jerusalem & the surrounding areas Christ traveled to were occupied by Hebrews, Greeks & Romans during that time time & He drew a variety of followers; so certainly would've known how to communicate in these languages. Ps: Our Catholic Excorcists report that the adversaries HATE Latin because it is the sacred language of the RCC. I'll take the word of the Exorcists.👍 You'd be surprised how quickly you'd catch on to Latin, as our modern languages are based on it. It's still used in medical, scientific, legal & technical language as well, so again after a few times & a little patience people catch on quickly... Especially since the Missal has side by side translations & explanations which make it easy to follow along if you wish. Everything from the priest's Vestments, to the gestures & movements he makes across the altar is deeply meaningful & rooted in scripture & Sacred Tradition. The daily missal as well as other resources explain it well. +JMJ+

[@helenlebo4170]

Well!?!?!? If Pope Francis doesn't like TLM 's then he doesn't need to do them but he shouldn't ban them for those of us that do 😢sadly I wish we had a Pope that was more traditionally minded and stayed his own lane Another words worry about our souls 🤷‍♀️ BE OUR SHARPARD NOT A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING 😢😢😢

[@patpage6320]

What is the big deal with doing the Latin Mass? I grew up attending Latin Mass and prefer it to this modern day mass.

[@taroman7100]

This modern day mass isnt worth my time. I hardly recognize anything Catholic in it. I do not care for the "peace be with you hug" nor the horrible mini chants. We didnt raise our hands up nor did we handle the host!

[@patpage6320]

@@taroman7100 I have never heard of or seen " hugs". I was never crazy about the the sign of piece either especially after seeing someone cough or sneeze into their hand and then have to shake their hand. Loved the old hymns sung in mass but now they seem cold.😪

[@judithblanche-agathaabito6712]

Amen and may! G0d be praised

[@AJ-ox8xy]

He wouldn't.

[@juicyjules7409]

Mary mother of God predicted the church 😢evil n Russia issues

[@juicyjules7409]

Infiltration of the church Mary told the children

[@eddieschwab864]

In the geopolitical sense, Russia is NOT the problem. Criminals running US and other western governments ARE THE PROBLEM. Ie, they use Ukraine as a $$$ l@undering piggy bank for their criminal enterprises. Russia is a Christian nation (albeit Orthodox), while so much f@gg○+ry tolerated by BerGOGlio and western Nations encouraging Zero Population growth one two kids while Russia OFFICIALLY encourages large families to get out of what had been a demographic collapse. After decade of nihilism under Yeltsin they have returned to their Orthodox roots and while may not have much use for Orthodoxy, Russia now protects religious freedom for Catholics.

[@allenpayne7542]

NO 2 NO

[@valeriabrugger9011]

Taylor, when will you study about the changes in the words of ordinations and and how that affects one’s validity as a priest? I haven’t heard a podcast from you with regards to that, but maybe I’ve just missed it.

[@user-ys6sj4sx7j]

St Pius Fifth the Cardinal Antonio Ghiliresi called the Council of Trent and also won the battle of Lepanto. Allan.

[@michaelfusco4801]

I sure hope that this is just a rumor. But I'm getting ready here in New York City to start attending the Byzantine Catholic Liturgy (not schismatic Orthodox, of course) if my TLM is shut down. I've been going to diocesan TLM's here since 1988.

[@bigstevesnostalgiadragraci4240]

I'm 72, and grew up in the Latin Mass. I was in my late teens when the change was made. Why anyone can state that things were so superior then obviously was not around. Believe me, we had our problems then, disingenuous clergy, folks not serious about their faith then as we do now. I think a lot of it is just pining for the 'good old days'. To me, both forms are valid. But, I see the reason, if the Holy Father makes this call. To many Marshal Taylors, Fr. Altmans, Return to Tradition guys out there causing dissention and fighting among the faithful. If he does, then those folks will have a choice to make. Remain faithful to the one, true Church Christ started, or walk just like Martin Luther did

[@paxchristi2248]

I converted at 21 and left in 7 years due to the "fluff" of the NO. Came back and eventually found the TLM. Finally experienced the Faith I was looking for as a young adult. The dearth of liturgy in the NO compared to the TLM is stunning.

[@paxchristi2248]

The modernists are causing the division, not Dr. Marshall et al.

[@taroman7100]

and look what that cost. The Pope will boil us all in hot oil?

[@bigstevesnostalgiadragraci4240]

@@taroman7100 "Upon This rock I will build MY Church, and the gates of hell will not stand against it". Christ said that. HE did. You either believe Him, or you don't. I take His words at face value.

[@jrorganbuilding]

This is why I go to the Byzantine Rite.

[@108257able]

Is there anyway of watching the webinar? I missed original airing

[@eddiemenke9573]

DR Taylor Marshall: can you respond to the other Catholic commentators (e.g- Trent Horn, Michael Loften, Pints with Aquinas, etc) that do not agree and speak out against you? I feel like they attack your views a ton and idk- if you could plan that at some point that would be great!!

[@NPC999]

loften is totally irrelevant, tbh

[@eddiemenke9573]

@@NPC999 Fair- but he is growing fast- and I hope Dr TM sets his listeners straight

[@Mike-JMJ]

I agree. It would be nice to have a civil debate to flesh out many of the errors on this channel. I don't think it will ever happen though.

[@georgesouza]

I the boomer 72 years old that was raised in the TLM until high school and the Novus Ordo was new to me. It helped me understand better and 54 years later I still serve at mass with music and attend mass about 3 times per week and volunteer at our local Catholic School. I think Catholics should be able to attend the TLM freely. I disagree with banning the TLM. It is a sacred liturgy that attracts many holy men and women. But please quit putting down the Novus Ordo. Most churches don’t abuse it. Its the few that get all the negative weird stuff. Many Blessings

[@eddiemenke9573]

@@georgesouza Not talking about knocking the NO- but defending the people who attack Dr TM and the Latin Mass and traditional philosophy

[@chrisboone5069]

The Final Countdown 🎸 EUROPE

[@Mark3ABE]

Some comments on the use of the Latin language in the Church. The Church was founded in Palestine. It spread into what we now know as Turkey, at that time, called Asia Minor. Then, the Roman Emperor became Christian. The Barbarians invaded Italy and the Emperor and the Roman Patrician families fled from Rome to Constantinople. There, the official langue of the Eastern Roman Empire remained Latin. The Emperor Justinian wrote his famous Legal Code in Latin. However, the every day language of the people was Greek. The Bible, the Mass and all the Liturgy were in Greek. Then, the Barbarians were converted and Rome had Christian rulers. As the Church became established there, the Greek Liturgy was used originally. Then, there was pressure to have the Bible and the Liturgy in the vernacular. So, St. Jerome translated the Bible into the vernacular, or vulgar, tongue. The Mass was translated into the vernacular, however, one part remained in Greek, the Kyrie, and the Kyrie remained in Greek even after the whole of the Latin Rite Church adopted the use of the vernacular in the Liturgy. By the time of the Second Vatican Council, once again, just as in the early Church in Rome, there was pressure to have the Liturgy in the vernacular. This was approved by the Council. Initially, the Kyrie remained in Greek - it was a tangible connection to the early Liturgy of the early Church. Finally, it was translated into the vernacular. Now, if I were the Pope, what would I do? I should have the Liturgy in the vernacular. I should have the Kyrie in Greek, once again, as a link with the early Liturgy. I should have several of the central prayers of the Mass in Latin, perhaps the Angus Dei and the Domine Non Sum Dignis as a connection with the earlier Latin liturgy. I should restore the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar and the Last Gospel - in the vernacular. However, I am not the Pope and one thing I can guarantee - despite all of the talk of Synodality, the Pope would not pay any attention at all to anything I might say. He would not pay any attention to anything which Taylor Marshall might say.

[@Hopeternal316]

At some point, i should think logically, that following the persecution which initially drove them from Rome, some of the Christians declared that they must return ( after all the Lord is triumphing over ancient Rome seat of the devil, with Christianity, (and i read this in a history book somewhere in my conversion to Catholic but havent been able to locate it yet again) to which the fearful exclaimed to the effect of, if we go back there they will kill us! And the brave, insistent to return to Rome exclaimed that if then they die, they die! In Rome… anyone familiar with this? St Anthony if this is true, help me locate this…

[@loist9022]

I think that the Pope is paying attention to Taylor Marshall. He is infuriated by what Marshall is saying. He is more than likely trying to figure out a way to silence Taylor. But he cannot quite figure out the expedient way to do that. Just my opinion.

[@geribertelsen425]

Dr marshall... since you brought up the Europe song, what are your thoughts on heavy metal music? I grew up in the 80s and have a fondness for the music; and its awesome for gym playlists! Is the subject matter and mischievous of the genre too much for someone trying to be a respectful and faithful catholic?

[@magdasune1]

Dr Marshall, I've been trying to locate a TLM near me (South Florida) and all of them are SSPX. I'm confused because my parrishoner told me to be careful because they are not part of the Roman Catholic Church, and as much as I'm not a big fan of Bergoglio, I wouldn't like to fall of the wagon by mistake

[@Fundamentis]

SSPX are Roman Catholic and inside the church. Please watch SSPX crisis in the church podcast series or other SSPX podcasts for their position..

[@emmetroad001]

They are.

[@mjrlunpersonal]

If you want to learn about why the SSPX are in full communion (and how the claims to the contrary are merely accusations), Kennedy Hall @MereTradition does good apologetics on the matter. This is assuming you don't want to hear it directly from the SSPX, of course.

[@marywagner9927]

Look for an FSSP parish. They only say Latin Mass.

[@marccrotty8447]

Magdasune1. Invest a few weeks of evenings watching the SSPX "Crisis in the Church" series. This may change your perspective. Secondly, go to one of their chapels and see for yourself the Mass and preaching. Meet the people. It is entirely Catholic; the Novus Ordo not so much. Attend the Latin Mass.

[@Puglia506]

Sedevacantism is becoming the only true position for a Roman Catholic. V2 promulgates a completely different religion, that doesn't recognise Our Lord Jesus as the Way, the Truth and the Life.

[@consecratedsoul]

Non infallible teachings do not override dogmatic definitive teachings. Sedes like hyperpapalists deeply misunderstand Catholic ecclesiology and the limitations popes have. There is no being Catholic without carrying our cross.

[@marccrotty8447]

The SSPX is a viable alternative. Fully Catholic.

[@marcokite]

NOPE - the only true position is Holy Orthodoxy

[@bobjenkins3rd]

⁠@@marccrotty8447let’s be real. In the near future, SSPX won’t be in communion with the pope any more than western rite orthodox, maybe even less so. Strange times.

[@marccrotty8447]

@@bobjenkins3rd Perhaps SSPX is not in communion with (anti) Pope Francis but in continuity with the eternal Catholic Faith. Attend the Latin Mass.

[@kentpurdy92]

I agree that Francis doesn’t have the energy to abolish the TLM, but there’s many Freemasons in the Curia who want to, and they may prevail.

[@JacobMaximilian]

Michael Davies believed quo primum could be abrogated by the pope but in fact wasn’t abrogated, ergo there is de jure a universal indult even prior to summorum pontificum

[@challengable]

I live in central Va. maybe God is looking to end the Latin Mass as a punishment for apostasy? I don’t know. I was once told to return to the no in order to suffer and do penance. I didn’t listen and only will receive my King on my knees with my head profoundly bowed until the last second. I don’t want to scandalize the no parish by showing my submission and awe in front of my King. I hope the Latin Mass goes underground. I will not attend the no and put those who attend in scandal.

[@VABE81030]

Due to distance I attend the N.O. Not most, but there are some people who receive kneeling and on the tongue. Sometimes large families. I always receive on the tongue. I can’t kneel without the altar rail for support. Sit in back, it’s easier to avoid all the “Eucharistic Ministers.” I live in the very liberal Washington DC diocese.

[@marccrotty8447]

Challenge. Perhaps you are within driving distance of the SSPX Seminary in central Virginia. Holy and fully Catholic.

[@challengable]

@@marccrotty8447 yes, that seminary is where I first recognized our King in the Eucharist. I was no longer going to mass. It was almost sickening to hear the no only inform us on illegal immigrants, social justice, and the environment. The Latin Mass perishes are all about following and knowing Christ through His only Church on Earth. The no is not on this pathway. For the souls of the Earth, I hope the no falls to the wayside and the Latin Mass becomes the norm again.

[@challengable]

@@VABE81030 the ( ministers ) are another reason I refuse the no. The last no mass I attended was in Raleigh NC. Not many there in the pews. There was a man dressed in a diaper and S&M regalia. No one approached him to help him or escort him out.

[@toddpund5761]

God is not looking to end the TLM. He's figuring out who knows the faith and proper worship. What's the fastest way to get people to hell? Have them worship man instead of God. Spiritual warfare and understanding how the devil pulled this off helps people figure it out..

[@Mara36832]

Since he is not the Pope, ignore him. Period.

[@karenmunch4316]

I don't agree that he's not the pope but I ignore him anyway. 😊

[@ryandelaune139]

@@karenmunch4316sounds pretty Protestant to me

[@paulferrari3921]

​@ryandelaune139 I agree. Francis does sound like a Protestant.

[@coster1963]

Simply, Benedict XVI never resigned the papacy. He always wore white, kept his papal ring and continued to sign as Benedict. Unless you believe that there can be two popes, Bergolio's 'election' was a fraud. Read the history of the anti-popes.

[@user-wt5cp9fu7s]

What's he think he's going to do with the fssp, icksp, sspx? . Highly doubt that the sspx would stop the tlm. If all tlm's everywhere were to stop. Then we go underground.

[@avnmedic06]

Final Countdown was by Europe. Great song indeed

[@irenemoreirataitson1677]

Amen!!!

[@Runsfrombears]

Pray for your priests to do the right brave thing.

[@loist9022]

Yes, absolutely. The priests who do the brave right thing must be protected and prayed for.

[@xiomarablanco5598]

Banning the TLM will be suicidal for Francis and will also take us to sedevacantism ipsofacto!

[@brianbacon5149]

+JMJ I will continue to attend the TLM. Bergoglio may have power but our Lord in the Most Holy Eucharist backed by 2000 years of Tradition has the authority. My trust is in the Lord who is the Head of the Church.

[@johnweir1225]

Anyone in the comments tell me why I can't get dr Taylor marshall podcasts on spotify anymore

[@tMatt5M]

We need to bring back the boy name Pius

[@jamesdavid7099]

My older brother gave me a hard time for liking The Final Countdown when it came out. He said it sounded too whiny. It has strangely stood the test of time.

[@RantzBizGroup]

Yes.

[@sharondelaney8572]

The Holy Spirit is leading the church even in her error… using that error ultimately for the Glory of God. Our job is to be obedient (not to the point of sin), to trust, and to watch what happens in the fullness of God’s timing. Look to St. Pio for this heroic example of obedience. The war is already won! We have to be careful to not jeopardize our souls in the battles.

[@eugeniadoucette4510]

Can Canon lawyers take the modernists to the papal court and challenge this new eradication of the TLM and use Quo Primum in defense for keeping the TLM????

[@davidkelly715]

So if Pious fifth had the authority to make the Latin mass official, how did Pope Paul the sixth have any less authority?

[@jamesmedina6015]

At this point does it even matter anymore? The faithful need to do some serious soul searching.

[@oskarvomhimmel6936]

That would actually be something ideal, had Latin and Mass were not original and irreplaceable characteristics of Rome itself, Rome the State and Rome the Religious Sede of Christianity in the West, Latin, then Mass...The option to do it in Latin or any Language should not be removed.

[@JudithWilson-mv4bz]

Devotion to The Holy Face of Jesus. Join the Archconfraternity of the Holy Face of Jesus.

[@loist9022]

Yes. First join the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary These organizations are quite wonderful and necessary.

[@gregorymikula4249]

For the post-conciliar modernists the liturgy is a never - ending product of subjective tinkering and will be so until there is an en masse return to Tradition.

[@andreamariterickson5885]

Fssp is promoting the novena to St Peter and st Paul starting today June 20 for the order in advance of their chapter's Council.

[@livingforhimyt]

Link for those who missed please Dr Marshall!?😢

[@user-ys6sj4sx7j]

I still cannot find Christus Vinceet, Christus Regnat, Christus Imperat in my Mother's 1950 Latin/English Missal in the Mass. Please explain Dr. Allan.

[@auspiciomiranda-rodrigues9336]

Let us keep praying for our Holy Father,so that,he may always reflect,the will of God.

[@ellem6050]

I doubt he's ever reflected the will of God. I pray he will repent before he dies otherwise he'll find himself somewhere he won't want to be. He's personally responsible for turning people away from the Catholic church because they can't swallow his BS any longer. Pray for him to listen to the Holy Spirit, open the eyes of his heart and repent. We need a good and holy Pope in these coming tribulations.

[@michellemcdermott2026]

I never thought I would but I am considering SSPX. This is too far

[@Kenis70]

Amen

[@cianmoriarty7345]

Funny how "the schismatics" are the ones holding to the ancient faith, the ones uncompromisingly calling out sin, the chaste, the humble, the pious, the charitable, the believers.