Will the Modern Horizons 3 Creatures Break cEDH? | cEDH Set Review Part 1

[@jacobhibbard6405]

Cal and Ian are the tim and Eric of cEDH

[@luccharmasson5133]

I’m dead

[@kstandish42]

Awesome show, GREAT JOB!!

[@chrischris1886]

Really like the editing done on the transitions, great job!

[@TheMindSculptors]

Glad you liked it!!

[@sosukelele]

Yeah, a little abrupt as far as podcast transitions go, but perfect for the shorts!

[@ELDevaux]

Wet bird summer let's go!

[@nicolesebesta91]

MH3 x 2 is Six confirmed (big math)

[@tylerhennessy2701]

This is such a crazy set. This will be hard to only buy singles from might have to crack a few packs.

[@markoswester-rivera]

With Volatile Drake and Saheeli, the suns brilliance you can copy the drake in responce to the etb trigger. If you target the same creature with both drakes, the original drake's ability fissles, allowing you to keep the drake around to copy on future turns, stealing a creature each turn in return for a token that dies at end of turn

[@CKarasu13]

As far as I recall, rulings state that the opponent won't have to sacrifice the token. Saheeli instructs you, the controller as of now, to sacrifice the token. Once they get the token, the instructions don't suddenly change. You are not allowed to sacrifice a token you don't control. See section 791.17a of comprehensive rules for a relevant ruling.

[@patrickowens3840]

Decoction Module is a 2 drop artifact from kaledesh that gives you an energy when a creature enters the battlefield. Paired with Primal Prayers you can cast creatures cmc 3 or less by spending 1 energy and you can cast those at instant speed

[@Frostman1255]

Basking broodscale looks pretty cute for kovold tbh. There's a few cards that combo with it

[@mrTjstephens1]

This podcast has the same energy as The legendary creature podcast with less dirty metaphores and edging talk.

[@verzun8470]

For Basking Broodscale, Sadistic Glee is a 1 mana black enchantment that goes infinite with it.

[@donaldtaylor724]

Re: Necrobloom For fluctuator combo, there are 5 lands that you can use. There’s only one dual (Scattered Groves), and Urza’s Saga gave us one in each color and a colorless land. As someone with two casual EDH decks built around cycling (Roon and Esika), Necrobloom fluctuator combo might be my first cEDH deck if it’s viable

[@Alico_Reborn]

Actually, there is an even better card than Fluctuator. Bone Miser not only goes infinite with the 2 colorless cycling lands, it also gives infinite black with Barren Moor and having reshuffle effects in your deck.

[@donaldtaylor724]

@@Alico_Reborn it’s harder to set up tho - 5 mana to get it out is a lot more than 2. If you’re looking to make the cycling combo the main win-con, I would run both.

[@Alico_Reborn]

@@donaldtaylor724 My main wincon is the infinite mana from Bone Miser, with several different reanimation spells. Chord of Calling can also quickly get the Bone Miser out. The rest of the deck is a midrange skullclamp deck.

[@dekina1198]

In Nadu "Aphetto Alchemist" and "Seeker of Skybreak" are sick value engines since you can untapp themself AND trigger Nadu 2x in each opponents turn. sea kings blessing, sylvan paradise and sway of illusions are 3 instants to target ALL your creatures to get a lot of Nadu triggers too

[@price69420]

Aphetto and Seeker produce 9 cards per turn cycle because you can target Nadu the final turn.

[@3N3MYKN1GHT]

Not to mention some agathas soul cauldron shenanigans

[@splattanator7778]

I love fanatic of rhonas in selvala bro storm

[@patrickowens3840]

I am testing Fanatic, Eladamri, Ulamog, Primal Prayers and Decoction Module in my Brostorm deck

[@SiusBleach]

Worth noting for Warren Soultrader that all three creature types on it have tutors. The zombie one is the worst but you could play Goblin Matron or Step Through with this to assemble some creature based combos. Gets better when green is in the mix though and you don't have to worry about awkward tutors

[@bend5963]

Disciple of Freyalise nuts in marwyn and selvala

[@harvenger0death]

Thoughts on Phelia in Atraxa, Grand Unifier? It's kind of like a touch of the spirit realm card, every time you attack.

[@DrOmnipotent]

Roil cartographer not making map tokens has to be the biggest flavor fail of the set. Great video homies

[@d1v1nerage]

Armed raptor doesn't work with cedh cascade because the raptor tries to cast the next nonland exiled, not "exile until you hit a card you could cast"

[@ethanhopper2467]

yeah, it literally makes the deck not function lol

[@eyeh0]

Nadu is cool. I think it’ll eventually settle on a safer midrange plan, but only after the dust settles from the tubro bird phase. Almost like Tivit.

[@rogerrabbit132]

I really want to test Six and Fanatic of Rhonas in Etali.

[@roderickveldman]

Warren soultrader also goes great in hulk piles with it, zulaport and gravecrawler

[@dekina1198]

Ocelot Pride could also be nice in najeela to make her army snowball even faster

[@FatstaxMTG]

I’ve been looking at satya for a cedh commander I think it has some legs between Kiki lines, breach, displaced kitten, and spellseeker combos. I’m probably wrong but I could see it being decent.

[@_Dohoss]

Harbinger of the Seas AKA Flood Moon

[@bend5963]

Fanatic of Rhonas is just powercrept Illysian Caryatid

[@toctheyounger]

As a dargonaut im not aware of anyone in our little corner of the brewscape thats really excited for the soultrader. It looks like it'd be great but busting it open in dargo means playing some unwieldy lines with cards we really dont want in any other context.

[@SenorCoupon]

For the rules folks: how does Ocelot Pride work with Rionya tokens? My guess is that you copy them, keep the copies, then exile the original tokens.

[@xxfenix15xx]

"You control" on the endstep trigger, so if you do not currently have those tokens they are not duplicated. Same sadness for something like Delney + Blade of Selves, or that would be a 3 combat kill combo.

[@xxfenix15xx]

To clarify, this works with Rionya/twinflame just fine the way you said, you just have to order the triggers to get rid of the tokens after you have resolved Ocelot's trigger, I was thinking of Myriad/Delina not Rionya.

[@SenorCoupon]

@@xxfenix15xx Let me expose myself as a fool here, but on Rionya, the exile triggers at the beginning of the end step, same as Ocelot. Can you not stack those to resolve Ocelot first and then Rionya?

[@xxfenix15xx]

@@SenorCoupon Exactly correct! The exile/sacrifice trigger on those copy effects is not something that you will copy when you create that new token, meaning you get a nice new token that can stay around forever.

[@SenorCoupon]

@@xxfenix15xx Oh, I missed your second response, only got a notification on the first one. All good.

[@singerbradley]

Ashling is the new darling of Krark/Sakashima!

[@guitarID]

Run chatterfang in korvold to make Warren soultrader pop off

[@robertspears8259]

I like bone miser with atleast mono black cycle land in necrobloom

[@dekina1198]

Six being a 6 mana 6/6 would have been so on par with his name. tho the effect would be way weaker for the mana cost

[@Todtodtodtod]

Sooo for becrobloom, gitrog loop is not 4 horseman because you get extra draw triggers, how is fluctuator not 4 horsemen?

[@CobaltCaster]

Haven't finished watching, but wanted to thank you two! I top 16'd a cEDH 5k this last weekend, watching y'all has improved my skill a ton

[@oldbordergeek]

So you spend 5k? 😂

[@CobaltCaster]

​@@oldbordergeek a 5K refers to the prize pool. I won an Intuition for getting 8th, 1st place got a judge promo Wheel of Fortune

[@dekina1198]

big bomb bird bonk!

[@matthewwinnie7944]

Currently testing Warren Soultrader in a budget Grenzo, Dungeon Warden Doomsday/Goblin tribal deck. Absolutely disgusting, especially with Goblin tokens 10/10

[@dasfabelwesen]

Erinis and street urchin are a cedh viable lands deck.

[@kenlikescarbs]

fwiw, Ashling, Flame Dancer has been utterly BERSERK for Krark Sakashima so far-and Krark Silas players are also reporting great experiences.

[@TheMindSculptors]

My favorite part about this comment is that it means Ken listens to our podcast

[@wizardsmix7961]

Still have no idea why this dude ever thought energy would be “pushed over the edge”. There was literally no indicator that would be the case. They would’ve needed a couple dozen energy cards printed at cEDH power level for there to be any consistency in using them.

[@carrotflame7859]

Cascade doesn't work with amped raptor because casting off cascade is not from your hand

[@synxcopt]

and also seems like they like many other people doesn't understan well how the effect works, it will exile until you reveal the first nonland and could be anything including one of your cascading spells and if you don't have enough energy you simply can't cast the spell and this card won't do anything. Seems like many people read it as if you could exile until you hit something you could or want to cast.

[@FullFatMayo1]

Witch Enchanter is the most slam dunk Winota card of all time.

[@TheMindSculptors]

Which enchanter?

[@FullFatMayo1]

@@TheMindSculptors That's the one.

[@ameliaburton5313]

Damn, who even plays iRog? 😅 54:10

[@stovey1220]

Engagement!

[@3N3MYKN1GHT]

Hoping its in some kind of alphabetical order and yall did not forget wight of the reliquary.

[@eyeh0]

Broodscale seems like a house in Tayam, with or without Rosie.

[@shep-b8u]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4SmmICja7uNg9U You can exchange control Stormdrake with an 5 or even 10 drop. You just have to sac it unless you pay energy

[@SenorCoupon]

Hey all, just fyi, Glaring Fleshraker threw off the rest of your chapter titles

[@TheMindSculptors]

Noted

[@Cupakabra77]

Who cares about magic cards??? I'm here for green scooters

[@Coulrophobia29]

Im testing Fanatic of Rhonos out in Tasigur. Gets turned on with Tas, and activates his ability .

[@JrDriver85]

Do you think new Eladamri is stronger than Marwyn?

[@ZakalweDisenfranchised]

UNBAN FASTBOND MAKE GREEN GREAT AGAIN

[@puntedagain398]

cEDH Horizons coming in 2026...

[@ich3730]

There will be commander horizons, thats a given. But specific for cEDH? Not gonna happen xDDD

[@tr4pkeedyoungking677]

No

[@fu4mkgic]

What no lime scooter update? UNSUBSCRIBED! GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!

[@TheMindSculptors]

Its burried at the end of

[@fu4mkgic]

@@TheMindSculptors damn I should have finished the episode before raging

[@Uri6060]

I feel like Nadu gets hit by soo much hate, especially since alot of its cards that you wanna play for your commander dont synergize amazingly with your other cards, but also just arent too independently powerful. But, to be fair outside of generic answers (counters/removal) hating nadu isnt done via etb hate or shtuff like that, so alot of the hate required for Nadu isnt as popular and also most of the stuff thats a lil more generic causes nadu to trigger. Maybe its worth it, but I feel like its overhyped (but im also a scrub and it aint my kinda thing).

[@Uri6060]

Nah im just bad, its too easy to inf. Mb

[@voluntarism335]

Nadu is awful for the format and will continue to be until it gets banned

[@jeffe2267]

Ian is the king of unfortunate facial hair

[@patrickowens3840]

Adapt only works if if the creature has now +1/+1 counters on it

[@zimagic]

Nadu, obviously strong, but is it not just (ha!, "just") Simic Magda, in that it only works when Nadu is in play? The deck is random piles with little inherent value until you control Nadu. There's a *lot* of chaff in the early builds.

[@wizardsmix7961]

The deck is certainly overhyped. It’s a non-deterministic and commander reliant turbo deck. People are just goldfishing it and seeing these crazy t2-3 wins that would instantly lose to any interaction.

[@ethanhopper2467]

@@wizardsmix7961If Nadu isn’t countered you pretty much get 2 cards out of it guaranteed - one for the first target, and one when your opponent goes to kill it. That’s a massive difference compared to other commander-reliant decks

[@voluntarism335]

@@wizardsmix7961 The card burys the pod in card advantage so the nadu player will easily win the game, you do not need to go infinite to win games, just having vastly more cards than your opponents is also enough to win the game.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

Does Harbinger of the Sea make High Tide viable again?

[@guitarID]

Springheart Nantuko is great with the recruiters as well

[@timonoeth8593]

first for the organic traffic!

[@pokedadsam9041]

43:47 Madison Li and top with the eldrazi goes infinite with a play off the top enabler. Also nets you infinite energy and does what energy wants to do with the raptor and package.

[@oldbordergeek]

The energy gilded drake is extremly undervalued. Theres a good reason gilded is 200$ 🎉

[@wizardsmix7961]

Yeah because it’s reserved list doofus