Will these replace my SVS PB16's - JTR Captivator RS2 Subwoofer Review

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Youthman

Youthman

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@retroforce6919
@retroforce6919 4 жыл бұрын
I knew it, you're keeping the JTR's 😉👍
@michaelmoses9256
@michaelmoses9256 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on keeping the JTRs. I was fairly certain you wouldn’t be able to send them back.
@dr.q8887
@dr.q8887 4 жыл бұрын
You want to sell your SVS woofers????
@jarodreddig63
@jarodreddig63 4 жыл бұрын
Great decision on the JTRs😀👍🏻. I really enjoy all that you do in your videos and the wonderful passion you have for this amazing hobby! It’s great to see someone as excited as I get over HT! I ordered a t-shirt to show my appreciation; I have said that expression for years ever since I first heard it around the car audio scene in the 90s. Keep up the great work pal👍🏻.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@FinnishArmy
@FinnishArmy 4 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded all my speaker wire from 16gauge to 14gauge and I can hear the difference in quality, especially in my surround and my rear channels (since they require longer runs). I also upgraded the gauge in my 2 subwoofer boxes (dual 12's each). 4,000 watts RMS, 8,000watts MAX... 4 12" Rockville K9D12.
@abholcombe93
@abholcombe93 4 жыл бұрын
Good video KPace, I have an SVS PB12 NSD that I bought last year. It exceeded all my expectations. Digs down to 18hz.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Kpaceguy? Kyle is a good dude
@xanderguldie
@xanderguldie 4 жыл бұрын
6000 watt!! That's crazy! These things will bring down my whole block.
@kingtspoon
@kingtspoon 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Typically with 4 subs, you see them placed in the corners of the room. I personally find your setup totally inspiring with 4 subs integrated into the main sound stage and you managed to slam it all behind the screen!? Man that's STRONG! It also feels more cinematic like the major cinemas that have all the front speakers and subs behind the screen. Although yours are dual subs in one box, they maintain the stacked sub affect which I think looks very cool. After following your build and a few others with the KRIX MX series, I'm planning to run a similar setup by stacking individual sealed subs behind my screen but of course, since this isn't "common" there's not many reviews out there about what to expect regarding pros and cons. With all the new room correction software available on AV / AVR's or coming soon, Dirac, DSP, ect... I'd assume one can achieve the same performance with the subs stacked behind that screen as a room with a sub in each of the 4 corners. How do you feel the bass response in your room compares to subs in the 4 corners? 4 subs are cool but can take up a lot of space. Your setup is actually more practical for most HT room sizes. #Inspired!
@Hemicon
@Hemicon 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY..... The fact that you're keeping them says a lot about those subs. I am in the very beginning of a HT build and when I say the very beginning I mean the very beginning. All I have is the room and 2 theater seats. My room is 16 x 14 x 8 so slightly smaller than yours but I don't necessarily need to hide speakers for aesthetics. I am leaning towards an all JTR system though so I am going to try my hardest to go to AXPONA this year. Thanks for the review and thanks for helping me in choosing what subs I will be choosing.
@jaxonve7307
@jaxonve7307 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Have you heard the JTR Captivator 2400 or another Ported JTR subbs..? You dont feel that you would would like to change to ported JTR subbs.? What would you say is the diffrence betwin the ported and seald JTR subbs..? Or do you prefer the seald JTR Subbs and why..? Im thinking on buying eather 2 JTR RS1 3200w or 2 JTR Captivator 2400 3200w. But i have not desided yet wich ones to go for. 1450 qubic feet seald concreat room only movie watching. Any sugestions..? I had 2 svs pb4000 before but would like some more chest slam punch. I drove Them in standard mode and i liked the low end in Them but Always felt that i would liked more midbass. But i would like to Still feel the low end that the pb4000 have. Do you think i would miss the low end IF i would go for the RS1 subbs liked the pb4000 have..?
@UpgradingAsUsual
@UpgradingAsUsual 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't think you were going to replace them! Good for you, mate. Iv'e been using the Minidsp 2x4 non-HD version for dual subs for about 2 years now and have figured out some things that only come with user experience. Please ask if your stuck with something and I'll see if I can help. With the Minidsp HD version, the plugin has 2 'global PEQ's' on the left side and then 4 'independent PEQ's' on the right side. The non-HD version has a similar block layout. For a dual subwoofer setup, some people opt to use the 'global PEQ' on the left for both subwoofers, as I have been doing but I had a null at around 60hz and just left it like that for about 1.5 years thinking it can't be fixed. It seems a little odd but I decided to start over but I EQ'd the subs independently FIRST using the 'independent PEQ' for each sub on the right side, then applying the filters in the plugin, then measure again with the corrected independent sub settings, THEN correct the final curve and apply that to the 'global PEQ' on the left side and now that null has disappeared! So all in all I'm EQ'ing 3 times - once for each subwoofer then once afterwards for both. What I'm saying is, what you think is a null may not be. I've seen you do have a null somewhere in your room IIRC from your REW graphs, but if you use this triple PEQ method, it may just fix it. My brain hurts.
@woohunter1
@woohunter1 4 жыл бұрын
I take it the Mini dsp made a world of difference? Thinking of pulling the trigger on the mini dsp, mike, and software, have dual SVS subs, tried a lot of different positions, still have a huge null right in the main listening spots. Built a big bass trap in one corner that actually made a difference, but not enough.
@UpgradingAsUsual
@UpgradingAsUsual 4 жыл бұрын
@@woohunter1 you need it more than you think.....
@MrHumes-nv1zr
@MrHumes-nv1zr 4 жыл бұрын
Demo the movie battleship with those subs. Beginning when aliens attack scene or the end mothership scene.
@williamball
@williamball 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video because I just watched your tour of the JTR factory, we get to the end AND, I'm sitting in the dark. "ALEXA, turn off the theater lights." Thanks! (The subs look impressive by the way.)
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Haha that happens sometimes 😂
@samhofman6459
@samhofman6459 4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, thanks! How do you think these would these compare to the JTR Cap 4000ulf?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I heard two JTR 4000ULF this week during my trip to visit JTR. Completely different rooms, both systems sounded incredible.
@aeron159
@aeron159 3 жыл бұрын
how do these compare to the monolith dual 15s?
@spock7of961
@spock7of961 4 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the Moonoprice M-215? And do you feel they're worth an extra $1000 each. What did you do with SVS PB16's?
@dtjf350
@dtjf350 4 жыл бұрын
The JTRs will crush the Monoprice. It just is what it is. The M-215 is a good bang for the buck but the JTR's are in a different class. Its all about how much $ you want to spend.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Smoke. The Monolith has a lot of output, the JTR has even more, tighter bass and digs deeper. Truly next level subs. I sold the PB16’s today
@Pitchcut29
@Pitchcut29 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Welcome to the JTR club. I have a JTR setup of 3x212RTs, 2x110HTs and one Captivator 4000ULF-LP and I can tell you that you will most likely replace your mains as well, just amazing. Love the vids and excited to meet you at Axpona! -Jerry
@scottyo64
@scottyo64 4 жыл бұрын
If he does I want to buy his La Scalas!
@techguy8920
@techguy8920 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I am currently looking at replacing my two SVS PC2000's. Would you recommend going with two JTR captivator 2400's or two PB16 Ultra's, unfortunately the JTR captivator RS2's are two tall two fit under my screen. My room is 12.5 x 22 x 7.5
@jvcalleja
@jvcalleja 2 жыл бұрын
How I wish to hear these...amazing stuff but in my country these are not sold and frankly even if sold these puppies are expensive quite a lot!! Keep up the good work my friend amazing channel!!
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joseph
@jaydawg7820
@jaydawg7820 4 жыл бұрын
May as well upgrade to the 48" subs ... if your hair doesnt move its not enough Powa....
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 3 жыл бұрын
He's captivated. JTR bosses : _Yes!! It worked!_
@desifrazier121
@desifrazier121 11 ай бұрын
Youthman ,,, I went from buying a crate engine to jtr Subwoofer subwoofer you make these subs sound sooooo!!! good I'm between 2400 or Rs2 I watch this other guy saying 2400 (cap) is the sweet spot I just love this look with the RS2 I want that puch to the chest bass help out please to make my choice thanks
@hometheatergurus
@hometheatergurus 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode and loved the analogies.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Gshiznit74
@Gshiznit74 4 жыл бұрын
That ending is a no brainer.. It's all about moving forward.. especially since you have the room to easily accommodate for it. It'll be interesting if the 4000ULF's are even more so with a straight swap perhaps. Then again they may not be as agile and quick as the RS2's. Always look forward to your research findings 😉
@toddroy9558
@toddroy9558 3 жыл бұрын
I have a room 12’w by 24’ D. Would is be better to buy 2 SVS PB 16 or 1 JTR captivator?
@jessontvarghese327
@jessontvarghese327 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Michael, would you please share with us the frequency-response graph, when you think two subs are perfectly blended in your theatre? Looking towards the max spl these sexy boxes can provide. Please share if you don't mind and thanks Michael.
@Audfile
@Audfile 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see you review a pair of HSU ULS 15 for stereo music. Specifically test out the advertised midbass performance on some Van Halen.
@gibluap
@gibluap 4 жыл бұрын
I must say I was hoping you wouldn't I really love SVS subwoofers. But I totally understand why and I bet they absolutely Rock.
@LifeofBliss
@LifeofBliss 4 жыл бұрын
Who woulda thought? 😉 Solid upgrade my friend, those things just look MEAN!!
@pmtz2005
@pmtz2005 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Youthman, I'm about to pull the trigger on dual JTR subs (2400ULF's), Curious, why did you go with sealed subs as opposed to ported?
@rayosarkari8442
@rayosarkari8442 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance of a shootout between PSA TV42 IPAL, S7201 and the JTR 4000 ULF? :-)
@JTRspeakers
@JTRspeakers 4 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since anyone has organized a subwoofer shootout. We've attended many in the past. It would be awesome if someone would organize one in the Chicago area since there are a couple subwoofer reviewers in the area that could do full CEA-2010 measurements.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Rayo: I would love to see a shootout between PSA and JTR. JTR: Sign me up
@rayosarkari8442
@rayosarkari8442 4 жыл бұрын
@@JTRspeakers my god, that would be phenomenal...what a dream!!
@docwho10th88
@docwho10th88 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman I have a friend who has 3 of the JTR's and it's the old saying.."how can you miss what you never had until you had it"? Lol. For those looking for a great sub that has a ton of tactile feel like the but can't afford the JTR's and have a small or medium room I would suggest 1 or 2 of the HSU VTF 15 MK2. It's the king of tactile feel for about $900. There was a subwoofer shootout years ago and it had the most tactile feel than the rest of the subs that were tested..since then the MK2 has come out with double the power. If I had a bigger room then JTR , PSA, or Seaton would be my choices....i love the feeling of bullets and machine gun fire punching and vibrating your whole body along with stuff vibrating off the walls and tables! lol Once gain thank you for your honest review! ..Now to see if PSA or Seaton can top the current KING! ha ha
@FCCENM
@FCCENM 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Def Tech Supercubes? Also, the Sunfire subs?
@hometheaterman1424
@hometheaterman1424 4 жыл бұрын
YOUTHMAN you should definitely test out the movie called GREYHOUND in your home theater man. It looks like it will rock your socks off
@PhysEdguy717
@PhysEdguy717 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do the REW comparison between the PB16 and the JTR’s, like you did with the Monoliths. Thanks.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I sold my PB16’s two days ago. The JTR have way more output and dig soooo much deeper. The RS2’s are flat down to 10Hz in my room. Completely different level.
@MisfitToy
@MisfitToy 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think would win in a battle? 2 SVS PB16s or 1 JTR Captivator RS2? Trying to decide with route to go. I don't think I could get away with 2 RS2s.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Likely the RS2. It will dig much deeper and likely has more output due to it being dual 18's vs dual 15's. Dual PB16's has the potential to provide better seat to seat response throughout your room.
@fred2ka4
@fred2ka4 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching sub reviews lately and I always look forward to your reviews. I know you prefer ported enclosures but I wanted to see if you can review the Monolith THX 15s sealed enclosure. I've read a few reviews and I could not find 1 KZbin review on the sealed Monolith 15s, so I figured it would be good content for your channel, especially after the review you did on the ported version. Thank You, Fred
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer ported on 15" and smaller as they provide much more output than their sealed counterparts. But with (4) 18's, I feel I'm getting the best of both worlds.
@fred2ka4
@fred2ka4 4 жыл бұрын
@@YouthmanI have small to medium sized livingroom so I'm leaning towards sealed for space, so i figured a sealed 15 would be good... just no KZbin reviews on the Monolith 15s...
@dtjf350
@dtjf350 4 жыл бұрын
@@fred2ka4 For sealed you could get the JTR S1 - single 18" sealed, or if you want sealed 15's (dual )get a Seaton SubM as another option. I've had both but I preferred the JTR sound signature.
@fred2ka4
@fred2ka4 4 жыл бұрын
@@dtjf350 looking at the PSA S3012 dual sealed sub. I like the size for my space and all their other subs have had great reviews including the 3611 on this channel....
@hddanman7263
@hddanman7263 4 жыл бұрын
@@fred2ka4 plus they have a trial period others i don't think so.
@infrasonicrebasses4763
@infrasonicrebasses4763 3 жыл бұрын
its not about decibels only its about extension..bigger drivers = better bass extension and thats the whole idea..they just HAPPENED to have a lot more output lol
@mickegullberg574
@mickegullberg574 5 ай бұрын
Are u still rocking the jtr ? 🙂 Is this youre end game in sub ?
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 ай бұрын
Definitely my end game speakers and subs. Check out these two videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ_XlIitfJeDoJIsi=lCttoJWAGQRf2IcU kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWOVhaimfs5mY9Esi=4nLkmWMYrpObgc-V I now have a complete 7.2.4 JTR system.
@godfather1116
@godfather1116 4 жыл бұрын
I CALLED IT and KNEW IT!
@MrAsafalfa
@MrAsafalfa 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder how much gain have you set on the AMP of the JTR ? is it set in the middle or 3/4 gain? same question is about your amp - what is the gain you set there for the Sub?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
1/2 gain on both subs.
@jake-jp3vb
@jake-jp3vb Жыл бұрын
Youthman, correct me if I’m wrong, did you go with the RS2 instead of the 2400 ULF due to air pressure shaking your theatre screen?
@Youthman
@Youthman Жыл бұрын
Nope. I don’t have enough depth for a 4000ULF. Plus with my previous PB16’s having port noise during low frequencies at high SPL, I knew I would t have to worry about that with sealed subs.
@jake-jp3vb
@jake-jp3vb Жыл бұрын
@@YouthmanThat makes sense, I have 1050 cubic feet to work with.. Running a PB-3000…Was looking at the JTR Cap 2400. I only listen at lower volumes. Given my limited space is the JTR going to be noticeably deeper? Or is the space to limited to affect the depth? Thank you for your time.
@Youthman
@Youthman Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. JTR subs are tuned to -0Hz. My RS2’s are flat down to 5Hz in my room.
@jake-jp3vb
@jake-jp3vb Жыл бұрын
@@YouthmanThank you brother, love your channel.
@Youthman
@Youthman Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it
@maxs.8146
@maxs.8146 4 жыл бұрын
There is a little mistake in the video description, the Pre Amp‘s are from Marantz not from Denon
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, Denon does make preamps...just not in the US market.
@glofishvidz
@glofishvidz 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do "best budget sub" where you focus your attention on subs under $1000 for people just starting out?
@kellyutley510
@kellyutley510 3 жыл бұрын
Youthman, was wondering if you could give me a few reasons why u chose the sealed JTR over the ported
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
1) 4000ULF is too deep to fit behind my screen 2) ported subs blow my screen more than sealed subs 3) With (4) 18’s in a sealed enclosure, I am flat down to 8Hz and still get PLENTY of output in my 13’ x 19’ x 10’ room
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
If you have the space, I’d say go for the 4000ULF. It’s a beast.
@annapl1
@annapl1 4 жыл бұрын
whats the difference in keeping the subs on floor vs elevating it (at what height is yours kept?)
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I have them up on a platform simply by design of my cabinet to have access behind my equipment. You can see it in these two videos Room Tour - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnPYeX-dfNCZjJY and Easy Access Behind My 150" Screen - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6DafoNrbZiSjM0
@annapl1
@annapl1 4 жыл бұрын
@Youthman thank you and my room size is almost identical as yours i just bought a 18" dual JBL theater subs along with crown amp dsi4000 i dont know how its gonna sound... can you share the height at which the subs are placed from floor?
@acousticwarphifi6157
@acousticwarphifi6157 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Can you compare RS2 vs Procella P18 Subwoofer ?
@Smood47
@Smood47 4 жыл бұрын
Youthman the 6000 watt option is only for 240 V just fyi.
@vivekayush
@vivekayush 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, my configuration is: B&W M1 (5 satellites) + Polk Audio RC80i (2 ceiling speakers) + B&W ASW610 (1 Sealed SubWoofer having 10" Driver @ 200 Watts) running on Denon AVR-X2600H. My room-size is 11'x13'. My problem is, either the SubWoofer output is very boomy or it is very soft (gunshots or actions scenes are so soft that these become non-existent). Can you advice me the correct settings to get better output from the SubWoofer (I am really happy from rest of the setup)? Regards.
@paulmardis1512
@paulmardis1512 4 жыл бұрын
Hey YM, I thought you were an SVS Affiliate. I no longer see the SVS product links in you show notes. I hope they did not get mad when you purchased your new SW's. PM
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
No, I’m not mad at all 😂. I’m an affiliate for a lot of companies. An affiliate does not mean you are exclusive to one brand or another, it just means that you approve of their products. I still believe SVS makes an incredible product And continue to recommend them. JTR just takes it to a an entirely new level.
@paulmardis1512
@paulmardis1512 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 4 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna have or do you have a video of the JTR guys two channel system?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that is my fourth video from my trip to Wisconsin
@bhootz
@bhootz 4 жыл бұрын
What SPL do you keep at MLP. Anything above 85 dB makes it tiring for extended hearing.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I typically watch movies at -15dB below Reference. I only crank it for demos.
@scottyo64
@scottyo64 4 жыл бұрын
I figured that was the way you would go. You have the room for them and the money so why not? There will be people not happy but that will happen if you move on from Klipsch as well.
@junior-OG
@junior-OG 4 жыл бұрын
move on from Klipsch😠 😂😂😂😂😂
@davidkor97
@davidkor97 4 жыл бұрын
What days are you going??? I'm glad you posted this because I'm from the area and now I want to go! Thanks
@davidkor97
@davidkor97 4 жыл бұрын
I just looked and it seems the event was postponed until August 7-9
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I was scheduled to go Thursday to Sunday. Bummed it has been postponed
@budgetaudiophile6048
@budgetaudiophile6048 4 жыл бұрын
Okay . . .props for that reveal. That was worth waiting until the end. That was very well done, kudos, mate!
@E_iN_G7
@E_iN_G7 4 жыл бұрын
I knew you were gonna keep em. Hell yeah!! Good vid
@abielpangga6314
@abielpangga6314 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. I believe the reason the subs are fast is because of the amps damping factor not because of the power it puts out
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff and I actually had that conversation yesterday. He as well said it has more to do with the sub than the amp. Learn something new every day. 😀
@dtjf350
@dtjf350 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman Jeff knows how to design a driver, you even covered that in one of your videos.
@treyhorn5645
@treyhorn5645 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Michael just in case you did not know. Big Gene Audioholics, has contracted the Corona Virus. Our prayers go out to him and his family.... He posted on his community page. Just wanted to let you know, if you did not see it... 🙏❤️... ✌️
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw that and reached out to him. Praying for him now.
@Snskch3
@Snskch3 4 жыл бұрын
In your opinion, Would 1 captivator 4000ulf pair well with a pb16 ultra as my second subwoofer?
@justinbeamon6624
@justinbeamon6624 2 жыл бұрын
No. Different league of subs.
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with pairing a 4000LF with your PB16, I just think you will find you won’t need it.
@alandelgado798
@alandelgado798 3 жыл бұрын
Would you think if you would have gone with the rs1's it would have been a huge upgrade?
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. RS1 should only have a 3dB difference between the RS2’s. Both would be capable of hitting single digits.
@alandelgado798
@alandelgado798 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman cool. Thanks, not a whole lot of videos about the rs1 but that would be the one i would buy if i went with JTR
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff said the RS1 is his best seller
@MusclesAVS
@MusclesAVS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman Actually its down 6db compared to the RS2. Double drivers = 3db, double power = 3db.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about the amp. You are correct.
@DpHo888
@DpHo888 4 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling you’d be keeping those bad boys!!! I’d definitely be interested if your selling your SVS subs?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks but they have been sold.
@budgetaudiophile6048
@budgetaudiophile6048 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like The Budget Audiophile has been touting the benefits of sealed subs, but I'm glad you got to experience it yourself, man. Low end extension > SPL. That said, JTR is on a completely different LEVEL than SVS. The PB16 Ultra is a good mid-level subwoofer, but when you're ready to get SERIOUS, companies like JTR are right there for ya!
@budgetaudiophile6048
@budgetaudiophile6048 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I want to add to this: I completely get ported subs, I'm not bashing them at all. I just feel that once a person experiences multiple large drivers (like 4 18s for example) with big power in a large enclosure, there's no comparison. That linear response down to the single-digit frequencies (which you'll get with some more miniDSP action) is something that truly cannot be denied and I feel can't quite be replicated with ported subs. But that last bit is just my opinion/experience. I'm so stoked about this video and it makes me wonder if Youthman will ever delve into DIY to see why we get so hyped about it.
@lardrell
@lardrell 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a subwoofer input on a power amp or do you run the sub through the AVR. And if so doesn't the higher output going through the speakers cause the subwoofer to play lower because your playing the AVR at a lower volume even though the speakers are louder because of the power amp
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I have sub out on my Marantz AV7705, going into a MiniDSP 2x4HD, and two sub outs from that (one RCA going to each sub input on the sub amp)
@jamellr.
@jamellr. 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos Youthman. You have me sold on JTR. Are they still selling subs? Got an email back from Jeff on a quote. Replied I'm ready to buy, but haven't heard back in almost 2 weeks? Just checking to see if you know anything about them or their sales process. Thanks again for the awesome informative videos!
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, Jeff is busting it to fulfill orders that were backed up due to the cabinet shop being closed for two months. Just shoot him a follow up email. I’ll text him as well to let him know to be on the lookout for it.
@jamellr.
@jamellr. 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman Thank you Sir, I appreciate that. I just sent him another email to the Sales email address from his site from me Jamell.
@Foxtrot1967
@Foxtrot1967 4 жыл бұрын
How's your hearing?
@cole147
@cole147 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any measurements to back up the speed between SVS vs these 18"s? I am interested to see what the actual measured accuracy difference is. I went with the SVS sealed ultras due to the PBs measuring more slop..
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
I do not have measurement tools to measure speed of a subwoofer. All I know is they are a huge upgrade over my previous PB16’s. Completely different league. Pretty much anyone that owns JTR will say the same.
@cole147
@cole147 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman I trust your opinion, but can't they spend a little time making them nicer looking so they have some wife acceptance? Even if they where the best thing since sliced bread i couldn't put those in my theater
@justinbeamon6624
@justinbeamon6624 2 жыл бұрын
@@cole147 What would you do to make them more appealing, they're 2 18's 😂😂😂
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
JTR does offer custom finishes
@romanlewandowski9616
@romanlewandowski9616 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video what excitement I’d love to be able to hear them but it’s not possible here in Australia. It would be really good if you could manage to do a video on the mini DSPHD and show how you set it up and calibrate for subs. I’ve just invested into hey uni Mike had a mini DSP.
@spek1174
@spek1174 4 жыл бұрын
love the metaphors
@bobzealand5692
@bobzealand5692 4 жыл бұрын
Of course you will I have the Jtr 2400 subs and the Martin Logan 60xti and it's the best system I ever had idk what could beat it tbh 💯 maybe you'll get the 4000 ported but I don't see you keeping the svs
@chemicallust77
@chemicallust77 3 жыл бұрын
Power and damping factor for days will make a big subs move fast and hard
@ferrari77773
@ferrari77773 4 жыл бұрын
Ford v Ferrari: Plane flyover, priceless man.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
That was a cool scene
@jtc168
@jtc168 4 жыл бұрын
Do you notice any movement on your screen when the subs are on high spl's?
@mikeoneill5228
@mikeoneill5228 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. Even with the SVS's.
@jasonwatson9127
@jasonwatson9127 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good question since the JTR's are sealed subs. I know he has stated in the past that his SVS PB16's did move his screen.
@jtc168
@jtc168 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, I'm considering this sub and speakers.
@jamesthomas9966
@jamesthomas9966 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Youthman, can you comment on I ow these compared to the psa s3611?
@P._W
@P._W 4 жыл бұрын
Also I would like to know the answer
@chrisenns7910
@chrisenns7910 4 жыл бұрын
Judging by the grin on your face the whole time you were talking about them, it was pretty clear early on in the video what your decision was going to be. 😀
@peterwu9346
@peterwu9346 4 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that JTR doesn't have a european dealer or i would have already upgraded my SB16's to probably the RS1 because the RS2. are a bit to big :). Anyways good vid and enjoy your new subs!!
@scrules3523
@scrules3523 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review the 4000 specs are impressive. I'm Still using my svs from almost 19 years ago and still doing well. From a price perspective the dual full martys is what I'm leaning towards.
@samo8204
@samo8204 4 жыл бұрын
My Wife "puts up with me" that's saying A LOT. LOL.
@nodoubt46able
@nodoubt46able 4 жыл бұрын
man, the day svs does comes out with a dual 18 inch box, ....youll be switching back 👀 😜
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think SVS is able to compete with JTR, but that’s not their market either
@robertmedina3195
@robertmedina3195 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman they could compete easily in my opinion. Subwoofers and enclosures aren't that difficult to design and build. It all depends on the goals though, a lot of car audio guys would turn enclosures to 40hz and call it a day. H-T is different that's for sure.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Designing subwoofers is more than building a box and putting quality woofers in it. I still don’t see SVS being able to compete with them, especially if they add a nicer finish it and the DSP. Not to mention since SVS is now main stream and selling through places like Magnolia, they have to mark their speakers up a lot higher so if they made it an equivalent subwoofer, you would be looking at probably $6000 to $7000 retail
@robertmedina3195
@robertmedina3195 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman in my opinion designing subwoofer and enclosures is a lot simpler than people think. There are probably tens of thousands of people that do it here in the states BUT doing it as a company is different. I myself could probably build my own enclosure and use my own drivers and spank the JTR dual 18s for less money all while looking much better. I'm not sure why they chose that finish. The fact that their dual 18" loaded box only weighs 200 pounds tells me a lot. Some subwoofer motors out there are close to 100lbs just by themselves. Anyhow, I wonder how JTR would do against something you could build using stereo integritys subs for the same money. Ultimately it comes down to what your preference is. You can not tune an enclosure that is the best at absolutely everything which is why you compensate with more motor force and cone area.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
If you can build a better sub, go for it. 👍
@paulmardis1512
@paulmardis1512 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, you did it again. You had Alexa look for your speakers in my room. lol. I wish I had the space for them. So I see you will be at Axpona next month. Well then, I will see you there. PM
@Ghost-Matrix
@Ghost-Matrix 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you would mention that moment in ford Vs Ferrari lol. I noticed while watching that movie that part almost made me shit my pants. And I was only using a Q acoustics sub/sat package in my bedroom. Couldn't imagine it on your system haha.
@gary4593
@gary4593 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Youthman if you what to test your new subs i think you should watch Midway it will test your subs.
@mudnsavy
@mudnsavy 4 жыл бұрын
gary fietcher yes sir. Youthman he is right. Midway was an awesome experience. With my new 7.1.2 setup with my SVS pb3000. Only problem is I need another one. Haha. Also The planes and bullets will fly through your room. It’s unreal.
@gary4593
@gary4593 4 жыл бұрын
@@mudnsavy Thank you for your reply HAHA about getting another sub Cheers
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I have heard good things about it
@neilhansen3025
@neilhansen3025 4 жыл бұрын
Terminator Dark Fate is the one to test those subs!
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss!!! May I suggest lighting the speakers from the top as well as the bottom...? Would look more even, unless the "fade" is intentional...?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I have lighting at the top but it’s not the same as the LED at the bottom. I would love to have it more uniform
@JP-ko8jj
@JP-ko8jj 4 жыл бұрын
There is no replacement for displacement!! Cone size matters...
@Logic_Monster
@Logic_Monster 3 жыл бұрын
Youthman, you kept saying how 4 18s is superior to 2 PB16 Ultras. Logical question: 1) What if you had 4 PB16s? How would those compare to 2 RS2s? 2) Did you notice other benefits from the JTR that you didn't see in the PB subs?
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. It would likely take 6-8 PB16’s to reach the same output at 8Hz as the RS2’s The PB16’s do experience port noise or port chuffing are high output. You do not have that with sealed subs. JTR is in a different league than SVS but they both have different target audiences.
@Logic_Monster
@Logic_Monster 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman Thanks. I’m trying to pick new subs for my theater room. Do you think you would have noticed a benefit with 2 RS1s instead ?
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Same low end extension, just 6dB less output
@mattjohns3526
@mattjohns3526 4 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at rel HT/1508 Predator ?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
The only REL I have heard are the 212SE from my friend’s home theater - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppOloqNtgt6nqKM
@barneyjones5174
@barneyjones5174 4 жыл бұрын
Michael, switch to solid core doors now that you're getting rattle.
@theheadsn
@theheadsn 4 жыл бұрын
The rattle is from the doors not locking in tight with the latch. I'm surprised though you dont have problems with that window in your theater though
@sudd3660
@sudd3660 4 жыл бұрын
just a fact for the tactile feel from bass, as you increase the woofer cone area(ports area dont count), you can get the tactile feel at lower volume. so you can never have enough big woofers in your system :)
@Paranimal86
@Paranimal86 4 жыл бұрын
Man that’s got to be incredible! You are so right about head room... I just purchased a second HSU ULS-15MK2 to match my first one waiting for it to come Friday! 😬... I don’t even have the first one turned up 1/2 way, 600 watts 2,000 watt peak! It’s sealed and what’s key for large output from sealed is large amount amplification... I’m always amazed at the tactile punch the sub has, can’t wait for its twin brother! Lol. As always youthman I loved this video! I love how upbeat your videos are and those JTRs have to be an absolute killer! You helped me convince my wife in letting me get a second sub by having such a crazy set up... l point to yours and say see I’m not that crazy look at this guys set up lmao!
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!
@TruthSeeker-lv4ns
@TruthSeeker-lv4ns 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another Great view..Can you recommend any Av Media cabinets that are not to expensive? (Help)💪
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m not familiar with media cabinet brands as I have never had one in my theater
@SkittlesScott
@SkittlesScott 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this!!! 😃😃😃
@rudolfabelin383
@rudolfabelin383 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't this path of Ummph start with the movie "Earthquake"
@W.M.611
@W.M.611 4 жыл бұрын
They say that one of the secrets of these JTRs is actually the built in power amp. Most sub amps have built in circuits to limit the current when you send them lots of content below 20Hz, as to protect the amp. These JTRs keep going below 20Hz, as you experienced :-) If I am not mistaken, I believe the onboard amps are from a company called Speakerpower. They also have rack mount amps for DIY 'ers or passive subs.
@daleromney6062
@daleromney6062 4 жыл бұрын
Are you comparing 4 JTRs to 2 SVSs?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I only have 2 JTR subwoofers.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
A single JTR RS2 (has dual 18’s) easily outperforms dual PB16’s (has dual 15.5” woofers) in both bass extension and output.
@jmd11185
@jmd11185 3 жыл бұрын
SVS president said the reason they don't make an 18 is that they would sacrifice accuracy. Hmm..
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that doesn’t make sense. A larger driver doesn’t equate to inaccuracy. Maybe they don’t know how to make a large accurate subwoofer but companies like JTR can. Third parties have tested them and confirm they measure as some of the best subs on the market.
@jmd11185
@jmd11185 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman yeh. Like you said in the video, the Amp probably has a lot to do with it....but I digress... I just about a new Pb16 ultra from Best Buy for 2199! That's 700 dollars less than SVS current prices online!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
The PB16 is a great subwoofer. I rocked a pair of them for over a year before upgrading to JTR. Enjoy!
@MetalsForBrunch
@MetalsForBrunch 4 жыл бұрын
With all this power what surge protector or power conditioners are you using to power up 4000 watts? Are your outlets rated at 15amps 120Volts or you changed them? If so which one do you recommend for 15 to 20amp power conditioner for my 5.1.4 setup with my monolith amp and klispch spl150sw/ demon x4500h avr. Those subs you got look awesome but how do you get all that power with performance/ protection?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
They are on a dedicated 20amp circuit. My other equipment is connected to a Panamax 5500
@MetalsForBrunch
@MetalsForBrunch 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman thanks for the info. I went with a furman elite 15 pfi for my 5.1.4 setup.
@nedkulic2164
@nedkulic2164 4 жыл бұрын
You should do movie reviews too...!!!! 😊😊😊
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion but that’s not really my focus on the channel. I would prefer to stick with speaker and component reviews and home theater tours. I do occasionally recommend movies that I have found to be excellent.
@ashikhan244
@ashikhan244 4 жыл бұрын
I hope to see you guys at axpona. Are you going to be there all 3 days?
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
We were...AXPONA has been rescheduled to August
@Computerlegacy
@Computerlegacy 4 жыл бұрын
Hey i have no problem with my Honda accord reaching 100 not that I've tried lol
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I won’t tell 🤣
@jeromewhitmill733
@jeromewhitmill733 4 жыл бұрын
Had ever considered painting your room some shade of dark grey!
@nestleambrosian4931
@nestleambrosian4931 4 жыл бұрын
Jerome Whitmill that's what mine is. SW Grizzle Gray.
@benjaminbrown5430
@benjaminbrown5430 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely should they dig lower and have more output also lower residuals
@LongIslandicedteaaa
@LongIslandicedteaaa 4 жыл бұрын
7:26 sounds like my subaru wrx
@HesterDW
@HesterDW 4 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting that to be so accurate lol.
@davidmcintier128
@davidmcintier128 4 жыл бұрын
I think of your theatre as my dream theatre, the dream just got better. Now I'll be waking up in a feverish sweat! 😎
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