Will this 50 year old backhoe ever be reliable? John Deere 410

More work bring this old JD 410 back from the dead. Closer each day one hose at a time.,

[@devinc923]

Man you really have become one of my favorite KZbinrs. I have a bunch of old equipment as well that I use on my farm and am constantly working on them. It’s nice to get a different perspective on how other people do things and learn some new tricks along the way. You’re a really great commentator while you work as well. Love it man, keep em coming!

[@spankranchgarage]

Thank you, that means a lot! Keep that old equipment running!

[@unimog_jason]

Right after you shut the machine off, pull on a lever and if there is a bit of a jump, your accumulator has some charge still in it. Mine still has a bit of life and it's at least 45 years old. Thanks for finally answering my question about the transmission oil. I've always opted to measure while running, but could never find a definitive answer is any of the books I have. I opted for an electronic tach, I had to open up the alternator to pick up a phase and avoid messing with the cable. It's not perfect, but close enough. You don't want to pull the engine, it's a MAJOR job and being an outdoor mechanic like yourself, I lot a good amount of hair. The first time I brought mine home, I used it for an hour before I pulled the engine to replace the crank seal. Got about 4 hours out of it after that before I redid a bunch of the low pressure oil lines. Ran for probably 10 before I pulled the reverser and fixed it. Fixed a bunch of other things in the process. Now I can put the key in and dig, so I guess it was worth it, considering how old it is.

[@spankranchgarage]

Man you have been through it all with your machine! I have no pressure after I shut her down. I assume the charge is gone in the accumulator. I might look into recharging but it operates okay as is.

[@94blasterboy]

How is there no comment on the morning doozer here.. A lot of great ideas stem from the porcelain thrown!

[@spankranchgarage]

Good question! It’s my favorite time to read technical documentation

[@MarkFunderburk]

I am following closely, I have a 310 that I inherited 7 years ago, I went through almost all the same steps when I got it home, from the seat to the hoses. Lucky, I didn't have that massive hydraulic oil leak though (and my reverser lever was good). I'm starting a new dirt moving project and noticed I have almost no hydraulic pressure 50-90% of the time (random-ish). It was good to see your other video with the schematics and filter / strainer cleanout to help get me back up to speed after 7 years of not really messing with it. Very interested in seeing how you plumb in the thumb, I have a manual one now and could really use one (and maybe a grapple on the loader....) It is amazing how most of the major components of these 50+ year old machines still can be made to work.

[@brandonscarfe8803]

Adjustable wrench for the win! Nice video

[@richardttu]

Changing all the hoses "while you are in there" is smart. besides, they way prices are going up, the hose will cost more next year. So you will be money ahead...

[@junkboxgarageOG]

Great video as always, thanks brother. Keeping us entertained and teaching at the same time.

[@spankranchgarage]

Thanks. Always trying to find a balance between talking and doing

[@junkboxgarageOG]

@ your doing an awesome job buddy, keep it up.

[@SPEEDY-FABSHACK]

I loved my tonka toys when I was a kid too! Good stuff 👌

[@timharris4874]

Awesome video!

[@jameshallahan4376]

Cool working at night

[@smplyizzy]

It will not be crappy for too much longer.

[@jakestabile7027]

Hey ! great to tag along as you fix up this JD410. I just spent $280.00 for 2 longer hoses on my hoe (ouch!); so Ican tell you have invested some coin for all those 31 hoses and the time to change all of them. I find if a tire is meant to be tubeless keep it that way if you can. Since your machine has the extendo-hoe a thumb will be tricky; suggestion for that is :Wain Roy Jaw Bucket. You the man! -cheers

[@spankranchgarage]

Thanks! I’ve been looking for a jaw bucket. Hard to find and pricy but man they look handy. I have an idea on how to build a real main pin thumb that follows the bucket but it’s going to be a job. Should be interesting to try

[@neilhansen5663]

Nice work buddy

[@spankranchgarage]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Shamrocknut]

surplus center has premade hydraulic hoses in stock along with seats for equipment. I did the loader hoses on my old model c Dynahoe and it wasn't that expensive.

[@dustyman0789]

Really like the channel man I own a 86 case backhoe myself but man from experience if you got a big job you can rent a small mini x for 250$ a weekend and get so much more done in the time you have

[@spankranchgarage]

I agree a mini would be much faster. Part of my worry is the remoteness of the property I’m working on. Delivery and pickup is a problem if I can even get a company out here to deliver one. If I can get a few years out of this backhoe I think I can justify my own excavator. Fingers crossed

[@billybobs841]

4wd makes a hell of a difference when it comes to usen the loader

[@spankranchgarage]

Yeah more front weight would be great

[@MichaelSmith-dg3kr]

If you would use some tire grease, or some Very soapy water will allow those tires so much easier. Save some GRUNT work. 😁😁😁

[@spankranchgarage]

I did put tire lube on them but it’s not super visable in the video. More lube is better!

[@billybobs841]

Good video man

[@spankranchgarage]

Thanks for the visit

[@kisoia]

Nice work on the repairs, replacing those hoses is money well spent :) When do you plan on taking it to your cabin?

[@spankranchgarage]

Thanks! Maybe February I’ll have it to a point where she’s ready to live in the wilderness

[@brentjones5227]

You have the stem in the wrong place. Can't block the point of the drop center with the stem. On or off you don't want the bead on the stem

[@spankranchgarage]

Makes sense in hindsight. Thanks

[@brentjones5227]

Good thing to keep in mind if you ever do tires with tire pressure monitors as well. It will destroy the sensor and possibly tear a bead

[@georgeenriquez612]

👍🏻

[@FJ40Brian]

Loosen the handle nut for the hoe sticks and you can change the position of the handles temporarily until you put new pins in. There adjustable. Nice work as usual. Wish my 410 was an extenda hoe, would be easier to clean up around the bank of my lake...

[@spankranchgarage]

That’s a great idea thanks for that! Yeah the extebdahoe was a big part of why I bought this one. Working on the mountain the extra reach will be nice to cleanup my trails.

[@FJ40Brian]

@spankranchgarage No problem. Used mine to clear a forested lot to build my pole barn. Come spring it will be used for trail building and pond dam repairs!

[@wildbenny11]

The time you get thru with it it's going to be new again

[@nickchristofori9602]

Your videos are killer man you do such a great job! Need an Andrew fable electric grease gun throw. How many tubes of grease did you use???

[@spankranchgarage]

Every time I pick that thing up I wonder if it will crap out and I will be throwing it. This machine takes like a tube and a half to grease

[@donpampel3332]

I am working on a 410 myself. where did you find the seat I have mine out of the machine rebuilding the swivel. I do need a new seat, the ks. Don Indiana

[@spankranchgarage]

Hey Don. I got it from Vevor for 125 dollars delivered. Fits okay and is comfortable enough

[@ProjectTrailerz]

Yo, spankRanch pull a tachometer signal from your alternator if you need it another way

[@spankranchgarage]

Great point! Im sure ill end up going that way on one of these projects.

[@saintb6969]

Going through the same thing on my JD 500C backhoe and I’m already at 75% of the hoses and at about $850. Where did you get that seat, I need another one as well?

[@spankranchgarage]

It’s from Vevor. 125 bucks shipped. Yeah I’m expecting about 1200 in hoses when this is all said and done

[@dirtguy6537]

First backhoe I ever ran good hoe back in the day.

[@jameshallahan4376]

7 hrs? I thought my 3 hrs trip to northern Vermont was long

[@spankranchgarage]

Yeah... 7 hours each way is a big time commitment for me

[@kielbasakevin]

Oh yes oh yes

[@tonypaul2987]

Use some soap man

[@RJ1999x]

The answer is NO it's a pile of crap farm tractor they turned into a backhoe. It was gutless, poor design, poor transmission, poor hydraulics, engines were crap

[@spankranchgarage]

Maybe. But I think for the work I have lined up it’s going to do the trick

[@RJ1999x]

@spankranchgarage hope it's not too extensive, or it will be expensive. Had a 410 for about a month, it was horrible, but I had run real TLB to compare with

[@spankranchgarage]

I don’t have much TLB experience outside of a case 590 and this. The lack of a torque converter sucks but otherwise I don’t notice too much of a difference. The rear axle housings are def farm tractor and look smaller than case, but I doubt I’ll ever break them. What kind of differences do you see?

[@RJ1999x]

@spankranchgarage The engine is gutless. No torque converter Tractor transmission too complicated for a TLB The hydraulics are slow and with that dog of an engine not very powerful when it came to a challenge. Borrowed a 510, which was better but still the same problems just a bigger unit. Eventually bought an Allis Chalmers 715C which lacks some of the creature comforts of a newer 580, but it's crazy powerful, almost too much so. It's the first backhoe I ever used that is impossible to anchor while digging, the hoe will drag the tractor

[@spankranchgarage]

I cant complain about the engine. It handles hard digging without effort. The only time its underpowered is when driving in 7th and 8th gear on a grade. BUT I have pretty low standards on how equipment should operate. I put all my utilities in (plus septic system) with a bobcat skidsteer backhoe attachment. Its even worse to operate, but its better than a shovel.