Will Trump's Tariff Plan Ruin the Economy?

[@Pe37777]

Hutch also said Kamala was gonna win 💀

[@G.S.2568]

Hutch is always saying some dumb shit

[@thegang3551]

A town in Texas lost all of their illegal workers at Tyson Chicken. They were replaced immediately by locals at half the manpower and double the pay with benefits. When you reduce the labor pool the demand skyrockets and employees can demand much greater pay. They also saw an increase in production due to the greater pay.

[@moneybilla]

mate if you increase pay anywhere for anything no shit its common sense that itll make people come back lmao, like are you mentally ill or just stupid? thats fkn blatanly obvious and like saying there are no good cops lmao well maybe pay them better you joke

[@dobber43]

Was it double the production per employee because otherwise they're paying over 200% prior employee costs with lower production meaning costs go up.

[@thegang3551]

@ the article I read had only said production improved over the previous years. I’m taking that to mean that with less employees they ended up producing more.

[@kevinwalter2674]

I work at a factory where over half the workers don't speak English very well if at all, and it's a NIGHTMARE of incompetence. The supervisors simply can't train the people that HR is hiring, but they can't get more citizens hired in because they don't want to pay them what they deserve. So the result is people who are poorly trained and working for lower wages make the job more difficult for the rest of us. If half our workforce were deported, the company would be forced to increase wages to get American citizens to fill those roles, which would absolutely raise the quality of our work because at the very least, we could actually effectively train new employees.

[@triple_x_r_tard]

they saw an increase production by employing people that aren't mexican. let's just outright say it.

[@Harvestinberrys]

Hutch would 1000% be pro slavery back during the civil war.

[@hagnartheviking6584]

Democrats never forgave the Republicans for freeing them.

[@cosanostra4229]

Exactly this. Its fo funny how we get indoctrinated in this country we are waaaay too damn liberal. Its radical liberalism.

[@joesteele581]

Typical dem

[@MrPland1992]

No one was pro slavery, the south just didn’t want to get f’d and wanted a plan to transition the economy.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Of course he litteraly is right now. His base sticking point is "the economy is based on cheap exploitable labor"

[@pierce4026]

I really noticed it in this episode more than others but Taylor is getting way more confident when leftists just make things up and lie he’s not just going along w it anymore he’s actually challenging them. I love it

[@rickyailion9751]

@@pierce4026 he makes shit up all the time and then when no has a rebuttal for it he acts like he said something smart. He’s super misinformed but it’s hard to beat someone in a debate when they can just make up their own reality and u have to be factual

[@br-jj6re]

Taylor thinks the pressure on the medical system will be alleviated with no illegals, thats absurd

[@FirstnameLastname-do1px]

@@rickyailion9751Who Taylor? What you said actually only applies to Hutch and the Woodster, only difference is woody is much more likeable than Hutch, who has the charisma of a brick wall.

[@dobber43]

@@FirstnameLastname-do1px what obvious fact did Taylor point out?

[@FirstnameLastname-do1px]

@@dobber43 Well tarrif’s are obviously not going to result in the insane price hikes guys like hutch are saying.

[@dudeman3186]

But Mr.Lincoln, if you abolish slavery the price of cotton will explode 🤯.

[@goodboy7721]

BuT WhAt aBoUt mY aVoCaDoS!?!?

[@Jack-vb4qy]

but what about my gas prices????????

[@dobber43]

​@@Jack-vb4qythe ones currently plummeting?

[@nurgle-j5n]

libs are literally ok with having slaves if it makes their avocado toast cheaper rofl

[@ZippoMann]

@@Jack-vb4qyYou won’t be complaining. Actually you probably will somehow LMAOOO

[@Jack-vb4qy]

@@ZippoMann just pointing out the hypocrisy

[@mlongo2583]

why do the people with the worst opinions possible feel the need to speak the most?

[@elzach0]

Don't be gay and start gate keeping opinions ya sperg

[@typerez1251]

Stupidity is often without doubt of oneself.

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Yeah Taylor won’t shut up

[@typerez1251]

@@bobbybalogne2565 yeah I think Woody is pretty dumb to be honest. Wait what???

[@YouTubeUser8567]

@@bobbybalogne2565me when I’m retarded

[@its.okay.to.be.christian]

If it will prevent the fulfillment of the Kalergi Plan, I will happily pay a couple of bucks more for an avocado.

[@EdgyLIVE]

Based

[@rickyailion9751]

@@its.okay.to.be.christian you ppl literally cried for years about egg prices. Either you are wrong and people will abandon ur movement or ur correct and u lied about caring about the economy.

[@eveningstar7812]

brain rot moment

[@condor237]

Trump has Israeli grandkids

[@ClaytonTheCracker]

I like Jews ​@@condor237

[@Steve-sd7wk]

Hutch saying "The price of avocados will go up" is pretty racist. Does he think all Mexican immigrants can only do unskilled manual labor?

[@Convict2Gardener]

Not all illegals do unskilled manual labor but most unskilled manual labor is done by illegal aliens because you aren’t going to find legal us citizen working for 4$ an hour,

[@elzach0]

That's like when Kelly Osbourne said nobody will be able to clean toilets if the Mexicans get deported..we've got Asians to do that also, silly woman.

[@tonydavis6487]

Since you're obviously incompetent, I'll explain. Majority of cheap labor and farming jobs are done by undocumented immigrants in this country. You kick those people out and who replaces them? Americans? Lazy Americans who want it to be a Union job, making 40 an hour and wanna work 2 out of 8 hrs 😂😂🤣 yea, it'll take weeks before the economy implodes

[@StonieBear420]

Yep , because California definitely doesn't grow them 😂

[@MrFineWhiteWine]

No. Most avocados come from Mexico which trump indicated he would put a massive tariff on you retard

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

0:52 The middle ground, is for people to use the legal framework to come into this country.

[@rickyailion9751]

@@HarrisonCountyStudio Except Trump’s plan and nearly every mainstream republicans want to deport people here legally seeking asylum.

[@dobber43]

Yeah that'd make sense if it wasn't dogshit for people just looking to immigrate and make a better life but it's horrid. I've heard many youtubers who make 6 figures and have a lawyer to handle it complain its so drawn out and unnecessarily slow yet you think Maria who knows no english trying to scrape by with her 2 kids to get her family out of a cartel warzone can manage that? If you wanna do vast system reforms I agree but that's not what trump or ur politicians have said they wanted. Do you think those people want to illegally immigrate where their life is way harder? Where if someone in their home country dies they can't even risk going to visit? Where they make less and have less protections?

[@GamerMarine89]

​@@dobber43 weird way to say you're for illegal immigration. What's your address? DHS and FBI would like a word

[@nurgle-j5n]

Yeah man as long as they replace the population and permanently alter the country LEGALLY I'm fine with it!

[@campy3888]

@@dobber43 Why is the selectiveness "unnecessary" to you? It's not America's burden to remedy people's bad spawn points. It took almost a decade for my family to be approved for immigration and we understand why that process is as such. There's a cost to everything and you can learn to empathize without automatically sympathizing.

[@connorgaskill7653]

The only new housing available in my area is section 8, which non-citizens get preferential access to (thanks Washington State). This massively drives up the cost of living for those who work since we're all fighting for the same crumby studio apartments that still go ~$1000 per month over 100 miles from the nearest major city in a poor meth county.

[@polloloco911]

Bro i'm from Washington and if your complaining about section 8 housing your really not off good, maybe try finding a better career choice. There is a lot of housing available. If your looking for low income housing, bro the odds are 100-1 per applicant. Even if your a non citizen.

[@pierce4026]

They just demolished the YMCA by my old HS to build a section 8 complex

[@connorgaskill7653]

@@polloloco911 I make okay money and I'm not looking for section 8 lol. I'm just frustrated that my rent is ridiculous because there isn't enough normal housing for people like me. I shouldn't have to pay inflated rent and ridiculous taxes so that more illegals can flood my community.

[@BasedGodFlashy]

You're playing with words using non-citizen instead of illegal immigrants specifically because non-citizens are people here legally that are not citizens yet and there aren't that many of those here. Most of the people in this discussion are illegal immigrants specifically and they don't even qualify for Section 8 at all. The answer isn't removing the non-citizens legal status and deporting then it's building more Section 8 housing and building an economy with good paying union jobs so that you don't have to be on Section 8.

[@connorgaskill7653]

@@BasedGodFlashy You're right, illegal is a better term. The problem is that various states do not check residency very well and don't account for duplicate/fake social security numbers (WA is so bad we need separate federally compliant "enhanced IDs"/passports to fly). We need to severely limit section 8. Section 8 is the reason why housing prices are so high. Local governments zone all new plots as "low income" and never allow any plots to be built for working people. This drives up the cost of living and promotes blight. When I was a teenager, my mom lost her job and requested section 8. We were told it would be a least 2 years. Meanwhile, one of her friends (who was illegal) got section 8 even though they were laid off at the same time, from the same place, and my mom had more kids. Hispanic outreach programs encourage systematic discrimination against white families and disproportionately help illegal immigrants.

[@jairacosta3804]

I always think of the family guy episode where Brian goes to rush limbaugh’s house and everything is made in America and none of it works

[@cfordii]

Toyota's cars are more American than most American brands

[@pierce4026]

8:30 woody “when you protect a company by not letting them have competition and garunteeing their jobs that industry starts to suck” that’s not what tarrifs are woody but you just explained to a T why your ideas about government running things wouldn’t work

[@moneybilla]

the fact you cant even spell guarantee when you have autocorrect is hilarious and sows how stupid yall trump supporters are , but hey yall voted for it so im down for another 4 years of 8.6trillion in more debt

[@dobber43]

That's exactly what a tariff does tho I'd ur product is now 20% higher (which the government takes to use inefficiently as you pointed out btw) the local company has room to exist because the competition is no longer fair. In some instances this makes sense say medicine, food, energy, microprocessors yeah that makes sense but blanket tariffs are dumb because a lot of stuff made in those places still wouldn't be logical to move here the labor cost is just to vast. They will move to a country we didnt tariff and just make it there several companies have already said that's what they will do like black and decker for example. Saying that's not what a tariff does is just a lie. Also if you think some companies that are competitive aren't going to use the increased headroom of tariffs to pad profits ur dumb.

[@13game3]

@@dobber43 or or or it would force the country currently bending you over with their own tariffs to make a fair deal?

[@GamerMarine89]

​@@13game3 pfft no duh TV man says orange man bad so all orange man ideas bad.

[@53knights]

@@13game3 it doesn’t force the foreign company to do anything. It’s the American company buying from them to pay the tariffs which the increased costs are then passed onto the consumer.

[@indianakuda2520]

“I’m doing a podcast” -hutch to his wife’s bf

[@almostanarchybro9129]

I think woody and hutch are forgetting that it's not an all or nothing game. Free trade does increase growth for everyone however eventually someone will be the head of the pack in an industry and so long as that country is stable and friendly it's fine but if they collapse or diplomacy fails that nation will be at the mercy of the other. It's why even through most countries don't need farming if they supplemented with trade it's important to keep a certain amount of vital industries within your own boarders. Tariffs in the short term help you get ahead but the solution to not become a soviet union or russia was solved in the 1850s. Japan basically gave a few decades for their industries to improve and slowly weened them onto the market to maintain competition while not collapsing their industry, something as simple as that gives you the best of both worlds.

[@Pepe46873]

Almost every country in Asia has 100% import tariffs on vehicles. Every manufacturer that wants to sell in each country built their own plants and people can buy vehicles cheaper then if they were imported with no duty. A ford ranger is over 10k cheaper in Thailand because ur not paying some union fat lazy 50$ an hr auto worker to build it

[@potatomcgee6313]

real talk woody was great during this he was respectful and jumped in at the perfect time

[@Timothy_Jacob]

There are more important things than your ability to consume endless plastic junk

[@TJbuffs]

But not electronics, this is what people don’t realize. America is going to have some massive growing pains when it comes to electronics Hardware. I’m an American electronics manufacturer owner, we don’t have the means to do it.

[@TheDrunkenCelt]

@@TJbuffs So?

[@TJbuffs]

@@TheDrunkenCelt I am confused why you don't see that as a problem. Supply and demand. There will be the biggest demand that the US has ever seen, paired with the lowest supply. Were talking 5 years or more. The cost of anything electronic would skyrocket to a place you wouldn't believe.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

@@TJbuffs how much more electronics does one need to buy. It’s damn near a ‘throw away’ industry now. Most of it is poorly constructed.

[@CoachBrando]

​@@TJbuffs we already did this once and it brought chip manufacturing back to Taiwan and the US.

[@gatlindowney7247]

The Toyota example from Taylor is crazy when you find out Toyotas biggest plant is in Kentucky. Chevy and Ford is in Mexico, making Toyota a more American manufacturer market wise

[@adamweatherbee367]

Hutch and destiny should adopt a kid together

[@17DogsInClogs]

“We can’t free the slaves! The price of cotton will go up!”

[@flauntynotarget4168]

I love that Kyle is finally backing up Taylor

[@gloriousapplebees]

How can no one challenge Woody on this when he says this is not debatable. Absolutely ridiculous

[@joewatts2940]

I have a feeling people won't survive without becoming homeless. Im sure most people who nake what the PKA crews make don't care.

[@TurtleChad1]

No, it will show the world the US has a strong leader in charge.

[@andrewblack9796]

Your jaw must be sore right now.

[@rickyailion9751]

@@TurtleChad1 a strong leader is when u tank ur Economy and weaken ur national security to own the libs

[@carpenoctem]

Because a strong leader is all we need to fix rising costs, a collapsing economy and rampant corporate greed

[@darkfafnir4389]

​@@carpenoctem literally yes, 😂😂you two sound just as dumb as Woody and hutch

[@darkfafnir4389]

​@@andrewblack9796 yours must be ready to fall off the way you act😂😂like DemonRats did anything but cause inflation and more crime...you guys have shoe size IQs...you probably don't even know how Ukraine got created..and I've been alive longer then Ukraine has been around...you probably also think the Russians are bad while Ukraine is literally full of Nazis 🤡🤡🤡Tariffs make countries act right cause they will go broke if we don't buy their crap...but yes you weak people are what's wrong with the world 🤡🤡🤡

[@connorgaskill7653]

No new non-subsidized apartments are being leased for working people causing a shortage. Taxes go up to facilitate more government spending on section 8, increasing costs on landlords, prices go up. Landlords begin converting units to section 8 as it becomes a more lucrative option. Government facilitates millions of people to enter the country illegally and apply for section 8. Taxes and prices continue to go up for working renters, but the pool of apartments they qualify for goes down as now they have to compete with the government for new complexes. Working people leave, blight moves in, towns are hollowed out.

[@zacharymcneely6039]

How will we compete with china if we don’t have cheap labor? China has FREE labor because they pay the manufacturers in china with worthless money(yuan) so that they can send off the products in exchange for USD or EUR.

[@_DMNO_]

So you're saying you're pro-slavery. Interesting.

[@zacharymcneely6039]

America is not isolated with its economy, I’m not an expert but I’d be nervous to see what stopping cheap labor does to us.

[@nurgle-j5n]

I'm sure it might hurt in the short term but a lot of us are willing to make that trade if it brings good jobs back in the long term. Some people treat the nation like just some kind of economic zone when the much more important part is the people of the nation

[@takoda100]

It'll raise wages

[@zacharymcneely6039]

@ and prices

[@joeysworldsewer]

Woody always has the worst takes. I come from an automotive state raised by generations of auto workers. The quality was WAY better when we had tariffs. Corners were CUT to compete. Lean manufacturing will continue under tariffs and everyone knows that!

[@campy3888]

2:58 Hutch is disingenuous because he only considers the costs of policies he doesn't like and the benefits of policies he likes. If he were in good faith he'd do the whole cost-benefit analysis properly. He, like Woody, are unlikely to experience any effect on their quality of life so their approach to politics is just for sport.

[@wingsofblackedbrandy4798]

Things are already going in the green since trump. The interest rates are lowering in my state and thinking of getting a house soon.

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Since trump? Biden is president, interest rates are lowering under Biden… even before trump won the election. Do you understand how anything works?

[@polloloco911]

Jajaja bro, once interest lowers expect a bunch of morons to start a bidding war again. And then your back to round 1.

[@dobber43]

You do realize the fed does that the president doesn't have much control over that. The global inflationary effects of covid started getting under control so the fed cut rates thus your bank offers better rates at no point did that involve trumps election.

[@radchad992]

Countries that actively seek protectionism do suffer but that’s because WE the US will batter their economy over it. The thing we’re saying will happen is done by us. We can do protectionist policy and their is fuck all anyone could do otherwise with the amount of military,political and straight up capital influence we have.

[@jeffreyking7994]

Hutch has fringe minority viewpoints. Thankfully MOST people voted for Trump.

[@za-ir5ni]

Most people literally didn't lol. Also, those are not fringe viewpoints. It's from those who are actually informed on how things work. Like how dumb do you have to be to not know how tariffs work?

[@matejmudra9925]

This community went full on MAGA echo chamber lmao. Taylor is moron with no understanding of econ lmao.

[@za-ir5ni]

@jeffreyking7994 Most voters are regarded, what's your point? For example, views on the economy flipped overnight when Trump won. Searches for "what are tariffs" skyrocketed after. It's all vibes based and not fact based.

[@majindon1503]

Woody has no idea what he’s talking about.

[@drpureinsanity]

7:08 so woodys idea is to keep bailing out american automotive companies with tax payer dollars when they go bankrupt "to keep them lean and mean and competitive"? What an idiot lmao

[@ZippoMann]

No Hutch fanbois? Dang it.

[@psychzach1588]

Taylor gives examples, woody and hutch give hypotheticals... These people are beyond hopeless

[@PunishedFred]

I want Trump to get everything he wants just so Hutch can seethe

[@bobbybalogne2565]

So you want the whole country to be thrown under the bus so one random guy can seethe? Loser.

[@nurgle-j5n]

based

[@dubzzzAF]

Pretty sure all avocados come from South of the border lmao

[@nurgle-j5n]

There are huge avocado farms in cali

[@dubzzzAF]

@nurgle-j5n 90% of avocados are imported. You're probably a bot anyway with that username lol

[@greg7044]

Worst guest ever.

[@rayweber7263]

I love how liberals like Hutch just make these blanket statements and then when pressed about their evidence, they’ll say some BS like I saw it on the news or experts say…. Unbelievably low self awareness

[@AustinTexasGardening]

Hutch is so stupid, they should have asked him if he buys groceries at Walmart or Whole Foods

[@pandavelli8176]

Toyota has a plant in Kentucky

[@FumblsTheSniper]

5-10% put into a program to develop more national land. That money and those jobs would generate more wealth, we could open up even more tourism and make even more money, and not a penny leaves the US.

[@ErkaaJ]

The US economy is sustained on cheap immigration and outsourced production, which is reinforced by US trade deficit. There is an idealised situation where US domestic production is recovered along with US consumption, but then we might as well discuss whether a communist utopia is feasible.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Basically saying we need our serf class of near slave labor and somehow this is liberal and good

[@renabshire4704]

​@@keithfilibeck2390 Its starting to make sense why they called us racist for being against illegal immigration, the big wigs are gonna lose thier cheap (borderline) slaves

[@kirby7475]

US production and consumption increases each year. Why do you think the GDP grows? This is every day, not an idealized situation?

[@ErkaaJ]

@@kirby7475 Production would decrease due to higher labour costs and import, hence driving prices up hence decreasing consumption. The idealised situation is whether this change of production and consumption will stabilise eventually, but it is basically the reverse of Russian shock therapy.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Yes. It is. Which is unsustainable and the source of our economic issues. It's the problem that we're trying to fix. because if we don't America will collapse. We arent "post history"

[@rileyellis2133]

Hutch is not gay?

[@caiden5855]

He must just get pegged

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Based woody

[@nurgle-j5n]

said no one ever

[@greg7044]

Why is hutch on the show.

[@bradymacdonald1547]

To highlight the wild retardation among these leftist pseudo intellectuals

[@FumblsTheSniper]

He’s a grifter and the PKA boys are just chatting with whatever person agrees to be on.

[@YUMA-X2]

_Because Hutch has been on the show for years & Hutch was originally just a gamer._

[@QueerMedicineWithDr.Melendez]

Two woodys!

[@justinantonius2823]

I prefer products made in America definitely unless I cannot find an alternative or it is absolutely ridiculous price difference but sometimes I still buy it even then like my professional snap-on tools at work never had anything better. Or my benchmade knife it's 10 times the price but it's 10 times as good

[@Janoy_Cresva]

Hutch is the last person I would ask about anyone's economic policy. All he knows is identity politics

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Did you even listen to him speak?

[@GamerMarine89]

​@bobbybalogne2565 yes. Which proves exactly what OP said. Silly bot.

[@plumpboi1027]

Same people who complained about gas prices are now okay with paying more for everything huh.

[@carpenoctem]

It’s bizarre. Everyone complains they can’t afford groceries, but they’re gung-ho on these tariffs.

[@DesFTW_]

America is more globally competitive with advanced manufacturing. That manufacturing often requires imports, so it then also hurts what America is good at.

[@rollinmenuez5422]

It's like you completely ignored everything Taylor said. First the tariffs are more of a negotiation tactic than anything else and second yeah I'm already paying too much for shit so I might as well have a secure border. This is why people like you lost the election. You're so blinded by your dislike for the maga crowd that you build a strawman and then only engage with it.

[@MrFineWhiteWine]

Conservatives complain about a bad economy then spend $200 a month on doordash, drive an $80k truck, and carry a $1,500 gun

[@kirby7475]

Most people are clueless about economics. But then again, If you're struggling to pay for gas, you're not gonna complain that a Moncler jacket went up in price.

[@Olebull93]

The tariffs he imposed in his last term raised the prices on fertiliser and recked havoc for corn farmers. Who couldn't compete with the international market any more. It was Impossible for them to export to China. Eventually resulting in Trump stepping back on his tariffs. But it ruined a lot of farmers. Now he goes for the same failed strategy.

[@pierce4026]

Corn is already hyper subsidized and price controlled by the government and has been since Reagan

[@JohahnDiechter]

And yet rural voters voted for Trump again.

[@takoda100]

Right so your only argument is corn farmers where you admit he rolled back on while still having tariffs everywhere that didn't raise prices as much as y'all wished it did

[@JohahnDiechter]

@takoda100 Dude, is what you just typed even English?

[@KennethAnderson-w4w]

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[@JozefTrubac]

Hutch is annoying. He seems virtue signaling.

[@ka0t1k1]

Woody has a simplistic and disingenuous view point. You’re not protecting companies from going out of business, you’re protecting businesses from having to compete with countries where slave and child labor are the norms

[@dobber43]

Then what you do is sanction those businesses like biden did to the companies building settlements in the west Bank or you sign the deal with Vietnam, and I think it was the Phillipines to have better trade relations that would enforce higher workers rights and help cut out china while still getting cheaper labor due to their currency just being weaker but trump didn't sign that sooo is it about that?

[@paulcrisafi4415]

What people like Hutch and Woody don't understand is that Illegals aren't offered the same collective bargaining positions and protections Americans have, but are awarded benefits which everyday Americans can't afford have limited access to.

[@tylerb4235]

Hutch is coping hard.

[@coleguitar2233]

Taylor’s the real one

[@pierce4026]

Yeah hutch lowering demand will cause inflation you’re totally not just mentally ill saying whatever you think will make Dems look good

[@Rekon-se6wv]

100%

[@robez457]

How about this take. Imagine you have to pay Twice the price for products made in America. But you actually make that product and make 80 grand a year without spending 300 thousand on a degree. Also because everything is made in America again. Inflation goes down and the value of your dollar goes up.

[@matrick56]

I have zero faith in US companies raising wages. Any time profits become an issue they raise prices and lower raises for employees. Meanwhile the executives get massive bonuses year after year. The idea of bringing back American manufacturing is great and I'd love to see it. However, the wages required to produce those goods means the price of the goods will be significantly higher than right now. The automotive industry sent production overseas for this reason many years ago. Between OSHA requirements and benefits package costs, most companies can't afford to switch their entire workforce to be domestic. I've worked blue collar, production setting jobs my entire life. Every year it's a struggle to get even a cost of living raise because customers don't want to see prices go up and executives want to keep their profits up for shareholders. If all the materials we use are being tariffed at 25% there is no way to maintain profits without denying raises or raising prices by at least 25%.

[@FumblsTheSniper]

The amount of money tied up in college debt is wild. A large portion is making zero payments until the 2040’s, which means the country is coddling a significant portion of our work force. That portion isn’t working or certainly isn’t working in a field that justifies having 100k of debt. The idea is we are going to float multiple generations of college students so they can be successful later on. Yet many of them don’t ever take jobs related to what they went to school for.

[@bobbybalogne2565]

What a terrible take. Us companies suck at raising wages. Look at the cost of goods being produced vs what people make creating those goods. It doesn’t track. And not everyone will have manufacture jobs. Stuff will be more expensive

[@kirby7475]

What would be the point of having a valuable dollar when you don't import goods/services and make everything at home? What about all the cool and high value things people could spend their time making like cars and spaceships rather than having to fill lin as labour on a farm picking strawberries? People are not going to be altruistic. If you pocket that 80 grand, why would you spend twice as much on anything if you can just buy for half the price overseas? After a short time all US businesses would go bankrupt, and whoops there goes your 80k/year. Ban imports completely and see how much of a nuisance the cartel on the southern border would be realizing they could make 10x what they do now trafficking basic consumption goods. I'm sorry bro, but your idea will not work.

[@robez457]

@ well things need to change. The American economy is failing and it’s actually insane to pretend that the current free trade agreement is working. I mean do you know the definition of insanity🤷🏼‍♂️

[@hughgrection3052]

INFLATION is caused by printing more money. This guy dont even know the definition

[@jwolf6269]

There's different ways to cause inflation fucking idiots

[@kirby7475]

Inflatiion is a price increase. It doesn't matter where or what the price increase came from. Although usually the strongest contributing factor, printing money is just one of several ways you can cause inflation. Inflation can exist in isolated sectors of the economy (and usually does). Without making a dent into general inflation. General inflation (which you're thinking of) is the sum of price increases in the sum of all markets. Tarriffs are inflationary for the price of the product you're putting a tariff on. I.e it increases the price of said product. Therefore tariffs, the more general they are, contribute to inflation.

[@hughgrection3052]

@kirby7475 I mean all sorts of semantics have been applied to the term over the eons. Mostly by politics. Factors that's used to be simply called supply and demand, capitalism etc, are now factored into it all and now called _inflation_ . But the real true definition of what drives it is when too much of the currency is printed.

[@kirby7475]

@@hughgrection3052 You do understand that inflation can happen without a single dollar being printed right?

[@hughgrection3052]

@kirby7475 do tell

[@Rivers198]

Our country is in great peril. Between the national debt & dependance on other countries manufacturing, WE NEED CHANGE

[@916009]

i watched this and i'm with Taylor. Woody and Hutch are clueless. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYCqkJ6irceppJYsi=voGedE49H0ET13sF

[@BasedGodFlashy]

The argument about our economy relying on taroffs before income tax is so foolish. We also had way more rampant poverty and our recessions lasted longer and were more frequent. We also didn't have the most popular programs our country ever had in Social Security and Medicare. Tariffs will not even come close to covering the cost of these or any of our other programs to help people in need. With tuat being said, the best period of our countries' history was also not complete laissez-faire zero tariff free trade neoliberalism either it was somewhere in the middle of the two extremes during the New Deal era. Hutch is being ridiculous with this pro NAFTA and even pro TPP crap its like he doesn't recognize that Democrats have historically been WAY more opposed to these free trade deals than Republicans and the votes in Congress can prove this. For NAFTA there were 38 votes in the Senate against it and 28 were Democrats and in the House there were 200 votes against it and 156 were Democrats. For CAFTA in the Senate there were 45 votes against it and 33 were Democrats and in the House there were 215 votes against it and 187 of them were Democrats. Even in 2018 whwn Trump was talking about putting tariffs on China it was Democrats who were supporting him not Republicans. Chuck Schumer is on video praising the idea. There were articles on Trump getting support from Democrats on tariffs on China. Hutch is on the side of corporate Democrats being mandated out. www.businessinsider.com/trump-china-tariff-democrats-praise-gop-slams-2018-6

[@psychobergmuis6281]

Tailor is 100% wrong about germany.

[@ToastyBB]

12:40 hutch implying kyle and taylor dont know what tariffs are

[@davidm2031]

Dude, ive noticed that with lefties too. Every time they bring it up, they define it. Like ya dude, i know what a tariff is. I passed the 6th grade. It just makes it very clear that they didnt know what it was until a few weeks ago

[@pokepat460]

Taylor is confidently wrong often lately

[@jcoxy1057]

Hutch the liberal crutch! 🤢😂

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Kyle is insane.

[@Jmack1lla]

But we need our underclass for cheap crap!

[@pierce4026]

And so the Israelis can make whites a minority which is what it’s really about

[@Simplexity94]

Hutch is worse than listening to woody :/

[@ezmackgaming]

It's been my experience personally that people that don't want you to protect yourself are people that are actively seeking to harm you. Lower cost goods are fine and all, but it doesn't matter if I'm barely making enough money to afford those lower cost goods. In that case I'm just accepting a diminishing standard of living where I can still barely afford inferior products. Kyle and Taylor are correct that the purpose of protectionist policy is to come to a more fair medium. I don't want free trade. I want fair trade. The president of China is looking out for the Chinese. If the POTUS is also looking out for the Chinese then there's no one left to look out for American citizens, which should the the first and foremost priority of all members of US government.

[@bobbybalogne2565]

What does you being poor and not looking for a better job have to do with any of this

[@bobbybalogne2565]

If goods are cheaper it will be more affordable

[@kirby7475]

So how will increased (supposedly) wages cover for the increase in prices that follows? You'd still be stuck in the same rut. That's assuming your boss won't fire you because your position in the company is now to expensive to keep.

[@ezmackgaming]

@@bobbybalogne2565 Goods aren't getting cheaper though. They just get more expensive at a slower rate. Having an inflationary economic policy ensures that goods will continue to get more expensive while wages stagnate domestically. When Trump was Pres. gas was under $2/gal, now it's over $3/gal currently meaning $10/hr working then would get more gas than $15/hr does currently. As for "why don't you get a better job?" lets say I have a $15 per hour job and leave it for a $20 per hour job. The new employer might be wary of hiring someone who jumps from job to job. Now if I leave that $20 per hour job for a $25 or $30 per hour job. That employer would likely be even more skeptical of hiring someone who bounces from job to job, even if that were their recommendation to someone who wanted higher pay or to better afford things in lieu of a raise. Ultimately "just get a better job" becomes a catch 22 where you have to leave a job because they don't give adequate raises and prospective employers are wary because they think you'll leave after a short period. This would of course become a self fulfilling prophecy if the new employer doesn't give adequate raises. The better solution would be for employers to give their employees raises or promote from within.

[@ezmackgaming]

@@kirby7475 A lot of what this does is replace jobs that people typically say "aren't real jobs"(retail, grocery, fast food, restaurants etc.) with "real jobs"(manufacturing etc.) that pay higher wages, but don't necessarily require a college degree. This allows the jobs that are "not real jobs" to be filled by teenagers and retirees like the people that like to call them "not real jobs" suggest and provides an entry point into a higher income bracket that doesn't necessarily require a college degree. Not having an abundance of blue collar jobs contributes to a lot of the problems America is facing( housing unaffordability, student loan debt).

[@The-Host]

I hear a lot of examples why tariffs are good, but no one can give an example of it going bad....

[@kirby7475]

-Corn laws, 1815-1846 -Smoot-Hawley tarriff Act, 1930 -Japan's tariffs on american cars in the 70s & 80s. -Trump's 2018 tariffs, resulting in US farmers' loss of matketshare, requiring billions of dollars in agricultural subsidies, funded of course by the government, AKA your taxes. Tariffs, as these examples show, can create domestic wealth inequality, hurts both domestic producers and consumers, hurt industry competitiveness, increase inflation, etc. That's just a few examples, I could list 5 more off the dome if I wanted to. Fact is tariffs, for economic purposes, do not work. For anyone. Tariffs can be useful in terms of national security, by protecting certain vital industries like military equipment manufacturers, environmental disaster protection/detection tools and so on. But strictly economically speaking, tariffs are a useless meme policy.

[@The-Host]

@kirby7475 thank you, I've been looking for something research the other side of the whole deal.

[@Andrew-xq7ni]

Trudo is just sad someone else is getting a chance to ruin canadas economy thats his job lol

[@staplerwatercup4605]

Rare Taylor L

[@Rebelnutt]

Ah yes by humiliating Hutch.

[@beetlejuice4693]

Hutch is a dolt it's sad tbh

[@MrFineWhiteWine]

Taylor and kyle are Coping so hard. Their defense of trump is he doesn’t actually mean what he says

[@YUMA-X2]

_Taylor proudly proclaiming that if the United States deported all illegal immigrants it would automatically decrease the cost of living is so profoundly retarded my view on Taylor’s intelligence sharply declined, Taylor really is just another sheep brainwashed by right-wing media._ _Kyle & woody just have to sit there & listen to Taylor’s regurgitated bullshit lmao._

[@bobbybalogne2565]

“getting even” yes very presidential, “nonsense” right trump is a convict

[@GenericProtagonist7]

Even after the charges are dropped you peopIe will be repeating these talking points until the sun goes out.

[@that_invisible_man3460]

​@@GenericProtagonist7Cults are wild man.

[@nurgle-j5n]

i think all the acid has fried ur brain

[@PigSticker-wm2tq]

Gonna click off because of woody again. Just kick him out

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Woody is based what are you talking about. And kick him from his show?💀

[@kahner93]

Taylor will bring on literally any left leaning person other than Destiny because he knows he'd get BTFO

[@Summersevedouche]

Destiny is a meth head who let his wife cheat on him

[@YUMA-X2]

_Destiny would make Taylor quit the show lol_

[@Summersevedouche]

@@YUMA-X2 the same destiny who let his wife be with other men?

[@PigSticker-wm2tq]

Destiny let's other dudes in his wife

The butt-plug dude?

[@BishopTakesqueen-ck4bk]

God he sounds just like the Dixie Democrats before the Civil War. Don't touch our slaves how will we possibly survive who will pick our crops!

[@MrFineWhiteWine]

This is such a stupid comparison. One of them are literal slaves who can’t leave. The other are a group of people who beg, crawl, and put their life at risk just for the opportunity to work one of those jobs you think is slave labor.

[@hagnartheviking6584]

​@@MrFineWhiteWineMy grandfather had a job that could provide a good and healthy living for a stay at home wife and children. Why should my wages be suppressed by immigration?

[@renabshire4704]

​@@MrFineWhiteWine Just because someone is happy eating a shit sandwhich over nothing doesnt make it right to serve them a shit sandwhich. If someone crawls to my house for water im not gonna give them the hose outside because it would be easier on me. The same people who wanna eat the rich just make them more rich.

[@bobbybalogne2565]

Ignorant comparison

[@Clicky_The_Blicky]

It will bring back SO MANY jobs back to the US, I live near the border and see trailers and trailers full of brand new ford cars getting driven north from factories in Mexico all day everyday . There’s tons of jobs that need to be back in the US.

[@johnhorner1969]

Saying that getting rid of 20 million people will cause inflation is the most ignorant statement I’ve ever heard. There is no logical basis for that. Less demand doesn’t make prices for goods to go up. It does the opposite. Demand down with steady supply = prices go down. wtf hutch. 🤦‍♂️😂😂😂

[@renabshire4704]

He claims that production would drop, but if manufacturers have a brain they would have a game plan for this, the ones that do will survive under the new laws and the others will rightfuoly die out.

[@bobbybalogne2565]

It’s not demand going down. Do you have a brain. It’s supply going down.

[@kirby7475]

You're halfway there. You gotta keep in mind that yes demand will go down, but not as much as deficit in production rises. This is because those 20 million, largely, do not earn anywhere near the average american salary, and therefore constitute a much, much smaller sample of overall consumption. Yet stand for the vast, vast majority of production in certain industries. In other words, the net loss in production far outpaces the net loss of demand. And you know what happens then? You guessed it, prices go up. I'm sorry, but your assumption that supply (production) will stay the same has even less of a logical basis to stand on.

[@Ben_U_Over]

Hutch is regarded