Will we get Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua in 2024? Reaction to AJ v Ngannou, Boxing Episode 823

#Boxing #AnthonyJoshua #francisngannou
The involvement of Saudi Arabia in boxing has fans incredibly excited at what could materialise over the next 12 months.
We look ahead to what could be on the table by the end of 2024 after looking back at a year that was certainly a step in the right direction.
Review of 2023 includes, Boxer of the Year, Fight of the Year, Knockout of the Year.
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[@paulstephenson5815]

I’m sick to death of everyone making the nonsense excuses that Fury didn’t train , Fury trained as he always does but Ngannou didn’t follow his feints and Tyson doesn’t throw a lot of punches when you ignore all the other messing about.

[@rstevens7711]

@paulstephenson5815 - Totally agree. I'm surrpised that Nick and Adam have been repeating this as though it is fact. Well, that story didn't come out days before did it? In fact, it didn't emerge 24 or 48 hours after. This story seems to have been created over the last few days and I don't understand why. How do we know that was Fury at his worst? Was Fury much weaker against Ngannou than he was against Chisora? I'm not so sure.

[@lance-biggums]

He just sucks let's be honest. If he weren't 6'9" he would never be champ. In any other era with half decent competition he would never be champ

[@davidbrady1825]

Fury trained for a fat camp not for Francis. Look at Fury during the first press conference..he was easily 320+

[@HuwEvans.]

Thought these lads had died 😂

[@adesanyasnipple5338]

I thought Brick top wacked Adam 😂

[@UncleBurntApostrophe]

@@adesanyasnipple5338🤣

[@joshtheMLGify]

​@@adesanyasnipple5338 that is the next big Saudi fight 😎

[@jimmy229]

Na they just wanted to ignore the December 23rd card biggest cars of the year cause it didn't suit there schedule

[@UncleBurntApostrophe]

They took their winter break lol

[@rjworldsportsnews]

‘’WBA Belt Bollocks” 😂 that made me chuckle

[@judeatkinson956]

Loving the podcast as always lads, but surely after a 3 week break where AJ, Bivol, Wilder etc have all fought + AJ/Ngannou has been announced + your BIG 2023 boxing year review, you can save a comparatively bog-standard fight card review until end of the pod? Still will obviously listen all the way through, just think some new fans may be put off, especially if no time stamps on the vids. But looking forward to listening in 2024👍

[@user-xl8dp4ig4z]

As a fan of AJ/BOXING AND Ngannou/ufc what a fight

[@mprovin7320]

embarrassing amount of cope from adam catterall. People around tyson fury (i.e tom aspinall) stand by the fact that that fury trained hard. Fury admitted that he trained hard.

[@Dukestboy96]

Fully don't understand why we're making excuses for Tyson. He could've easily come out and said I didn't take him seriously but he said the opposite! So the boys are absolutely coping way to hard. Which is strange because I thought they were supposed to be fans of Francis

[@adamlees8410]

The 2023 cock up of the year award goes to Adam and Nick for not including arguably the fight of the year - Ramirez v Espinosa in their show the week after it happened. Love the show boys but that was baffling.

[@benmccarthy923]

Happy New Year! Good to have you two back in my life!

[@spongekez]

Me watching even though I don't like boxing just because I've missed you 😂

[@jadebishop7968]

FINALLY.......damm I missed u lads ❤

[@Kyran31]

Oh boy have I been waiting for this one, glad to have you back boys

[@tyke-sl8bs]

I think people have an inflated opinion of what Tyson Fury is

[@alambyant]

The undefeated champion of the world and soon to be the undisputed and unified champion of the world.

[@tyke-sl8bs]

@@alambyant 🤞 he can add to the other only decent fighter he has beaten. Sad having such a long career having only fought 1 good fighter.

[@alambyant]

@@tyke-sl8bs Don’t be mad at the truth bro✌️

[@tyke-sl8bs]

@@alambyant ???

[@whoisgoobafish9623]

Massively

[@jaypincott7401]

Been looking forward to this 😊

[@lance-biggums]

I'm not even 100% convinced we'll get Fury vs Usyk. I think Fury is done. Not serious about his career or lifestyle and now father time is catching up to him faster than it would have if he hadnt heen drinking, doing coke, and gorging himself outside of camp.

[@sheajackson4187]

Fury’s done no doubt

[@Ant-jw1fc]

Not a chance is fury done

[@brandono9705]

I think he is done and knows that and doesn’t want to do it anymore but the amount of Saudi money on offer was too much to turn down

[@Ant-jw1fc]

Why,cos it looked like he struggled against an MMA fighter....tysons not lost it,its all part of his game

[@sheajackson4187]

@@Ant-jw1fc nah he just seems like he can’t be assed anymore

[@rivermerseyfishingadventur9653]

Moses itauma needs to be on that prospects list lads 🥊

[@psbrayshaw]

The disrespect you guys are showing Usyk is incredible. Nick, do you not think AJ didn't unload on Usyk BECAUSE USYK DIDNT LET HIM???

[@alambyant]

AJ is rubbish that’s why Usyk beat him twice.

[@psbrayshaw]

@@alambyant lol

[@alambyant]

@@psbrayshaw Your “lol” doesn’t change the fact that AJ is rubbish which is why Usyk beat him. Thanks.

[@psbrayshaw]

@@alambyant lol

[@alambyant]

@@psbrayshaw Thanks for agreeing.

[@darrenhipkiss8659]

Nice to see ya back lads,, bet uncle Frank's watching 😅😅😅

[@mprovin7320]

16:35 for AJ Ngannou

[@markcarter4988]

Nice to see you back fellas 🤜🏻💥🤛🏻

[@jimmy229]

Tuned in all last year to these two but by fuck this episode has opened my eyes to the shit peet comes out with at times

[@andyianson3243]

2024 big year for the @Fightdisciples 💪

[@joeacloke]

Adam, not rating the Inoue wins that highly isn’t his fault he’s just levels about everyone, the guy is having to climb to weight divisions because he’s too good! But could give fighter of the year to Crawford, Haney or Inoue. It’s a coin flip between Haney or Inoue for me though!

[@lance-biggums]

The AJ that just beat Wallin easily beats the Fury that just lost to Ngannou.

[@aaronconnolly7286]

Brilliant podcast. Missed the laughs 🤣🤣 nick picking all the champs is class

[@JB-td9fz]

Fury ain't beating USYK bar robbing him I'll tell you that much. He's never wanted that fight and we're about to find out why. And Saudi doesn't have the biggest oil reserve Nicholas. That would be Venezuela.

[@whoisgoobafish9623]

Let’s not forget fury was on PEDS when he fought klit

[@jayscouse0224]

Might get AJ v Fury as AJ is a lot more relevant

[@EducationProfessional-pc6ep]

Lads when are you guys hooking up with Bisping for a 2023 UFC review show.

[@songodrumming1]

This is ridiculous. I don't understand how people can still doubt Ngannou after what he has done through his career and his life? I'd be more cautious than that mates. This guy has shown over and over in his life, in MMA career, and now in his boxing debut that we should never bet against him. Now to see these guys pretending that AJ will make a fool of Francis is utterly ridiculous. As for me, I've learnt that Ngannou would make you swallow your words. Let's wait and see what happens 😅

[@songodrumming1]

@sids61 I'm not his mum for sure. I bet you're 🤣

[@Redball1980]

Fuckin Monty Burns in charge . Fuckin if that lad had died , that's fuckin murder. Tony Weeks needs a fuxkin medal.

[@Dillinja2017]

No 2025, Reckon Fury and Uysk fight twice this year

[@donttouchyerbumnsniffit]

I think Fury retires after Usyk beats him in Feb 🥊

[@blakes999]

Ego and greed has been satisfied, needs to be on some Fight Disciples merch

[@UncleBurntApostrophe]

Turkey Allal Shake-weight, got things in full swing, atm!😄👊

[@weallfollowmanutd]

One fight and AJ is now back. God

[@kroxx2]

AM i stupid or us this guy's insane? Why won't ben train AJ for fury fight? Didn't fury fire him? Didn't john fury say ben doesn't have the experience for big fights? .but now when its time to show himself in the big stage he should say no to the guy that is gonna make him a great well known coach

[@Redball1980]

The boundaries in Nick the Cex Peet' gaff must be Liberal, whilst also maluable. I like this man.

[@ManicMarxman]

Up the Reds!!!

[@jpnottingham5562]

Usyk and Fury have signed up for 2 fights lads

[@zambiazimbabwe8528]

Love boxing but the corruption behind the Taylor vs Catterall fight leaves a bitter taste as it has ruined Catterall’s career as he should have had the chance to have been in these conversations in 2023.

[@dannyhawthorne3262]

Lomachenko beat Haney. 110% every day of the week job. You just love Haney on FD 😂

[@ObjectiveMedia]

THE FIGHT WE WANT BUT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DONT WANT US TO HAVE! Edit: Ngannou didn’t loose he was robbed Edit: this narrative of fury didn’t care etc is a load of shite pushed by the British media 😂 Edit: how in earth does Ben Davidson deserve trainer of the year over BoMac lol are you two daft

[@carljones8309]

No one in the uk gives a fek about American football fellas 😂

[@dazhwood]

Junior nailing smith was a decent KO nick tbf 👍

[@wrlfc8937]

Why is there no under card for uysk v fury? They are already adding fights to Joshua v ngannou

[@davidpostlethwaite4637]

Most likely because Eddie has boxers he can use for it. Fury is frank and he has to work in association with others as bar fury he ant got much to add that Saudi be interested in

[@leave-it-outuk3432]

Francis controlled the ring with Tyson....... AJ isn't comfortable fighting on the backfoot

[@DJTW1]

Lads you do realise you don't have to use the word 'absolute' in every sentence? The podcasts would be 15 minutes long without it.

[@IsaMutlib]

Just imagine...if Fury AJ takes place, AJ wins. What a rocky story. If he wins, they need to netflix it.

[@tyke-sl8bs]

Deontay wasnt a high level opponent

[@luckyspurs]

Dana White treats Adam and Nick the way Conor McGregor treats Michael Chandler.

[@muziemoyo3892]

He will say Bud internationally

[@CNS1908]

The disrespect for Usyk is still here in 2024. Disappointing.

[@PumasRigo1]

I thought frank warren wacked yall

[@luckyspurs]

Hey Adam, did you notice your Ngannou video is doing way better numbers than your "Dana White keeps delivering" UFC brown-nosing one. How about stop sounding so heartbroken Ngannou did well and making excuses for the boxer, saying that he didn't train or got the best Ngannou, when Ngannou hadn't fought for nearly 2 years.

[@user-xl8dp4ig4z]

I got receipts, I bet for ngannou to ko fury in round 3. I have ngannou last round card from him and cyral so I bet round 3 because of that and the sand mines! C'mon Ngannou

[@hgruyfrst242]

Wilder Vs parker was no shock at all, wilder is outboxed in 95% of his fights.. he was always gonna be down on the scorecards unless he got the ko. Definitely doesn't qualify for upset of the year, it wasn't even upset of the card 😂 Agit kabiyel gets that one

[@Dukestboy96]

A lot of people still expected wilder to win. Usually parker cannot stay focused across 12 rounds yes wilder was coming off a long lay off but he's done that before and still done the job. This version of him was very different

[@Bulldog2108]

I dont like the ngannou fight, I have to be honest. I think what we will see is, ngannou very much like he was against tyson, joshua will find it hard to hit him.with real significant shots but he will have heavy haymakers coming back at him. That will put joshua on the back foot worried to engage and fight not to lose instead of fighting to win.. I still think joshua will win but it won't look good and of course he could get sparked out at any second. If he loses, then what? I've stuck by AJ the entire time. I've always said he's the best of this era and I think he beata fury quite convincingly. I think he beat wilder convincingly too. The ruiz fight changed joshua and as I said above from then on he was fighting not to lose, insdead of fighting to win, so we lost that aggressive beast that could bully everyone. Finger crossed he gets it done. He beats tyson and if it's usyk he beats him if he fight like he did against wallin

[@tyke-sl8bs]

Catterall can't stand AJ 😂

[@user-wm1kk8un4i]

You look at Fury's achievements..... Won every belt you can win and the only fighter to have held all 4 belts in this era. Fury would leave the best if they retired now. AJ's resume is shocking.... look at the rankings of his opponents. Winning belts off half bake paper champions. Charles Martin and parker 🤣🤣

[@Dukestboy96]

And parker just beat the man whos Tyson's 2nd biggest ever win who was also holding the one belt Joshua never got? Spin it however you want there's plenty of counter arguments to go around..AJ actually defended his belts a number of times unlike fury who got coked up and served a ban lol. Both fighters are great but fury can't claim to be the best until he beats Usyk. Fighting AJ after would then cement it

[@luckyspurs]

Adam Catterall so desperate to talk Ngannou down to please Dana White and keep those free tickets and interviews coming. Is Adam saying that Tom Aspinall lied about Fury training for the Ngannou fight.

[@jamietooheyhtafc99]

HERES MY RECIEPT YOURE WRONG NGANNOU WINS THEN IL BE BACK,disin francis oh dear you never learn lads

[@dazhwood]

AJ has fought everyone …..apart from fury or wilder (when both weren’t old) that’s AJs issue , resumes are largely bullshit (see Spence Crawford) in. 30 years time no way AJ is rated above usyk if they retire now not a cat in hells chance

[@dazhwood]

Regis “looked good recently” 👀👀 he looked trash the fight before Haney got an absolute gift of a decision he was terrible ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@shanec.1020]

I will never buy a beer for Peet. The guy is clearly already drunk after calling AJ the best on the planet.

[@christopherstamp5946]

No, Luke is a coward and has avoided AJ since AJ beat him up in the gym. Like he ducked the Vlad rematch, and will find another way to duck Usyk.

[@plymouthrock5281]

No, fury usyk are tied into 2 bouts

[@dazhwood]

Ffs Nick what are you smoking regards AJ you helmet 🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂

[@user-wm1kk8un4i]

AJ fights 3 bums and is gonna fight his 4th bum fight but AJs back 😂😂😂

[@fred8565]

NO, your not going to see that after nguana??? knock him ouy he will retire. so fury won't get a chance..

[@a.C.-it5rh]

Great fight ahead : but as you said everybody knows that Francis won that fight against Fury. but if AJ thinks that was the best version of Ngannou against the worst version of Fury well guys you are in for a big uspet : Ngannou will KO Aj if he conects only once like he did against Fury and AJ doesn’t have a great chin like Fury to recover if he gets knocked down by Francis … but we are looking forward for that amazing fight Ngannou said it post fight : he was maybe not agressive and active enough in that fight because he wanted to make sure he could preserve his stamina during the whole fight but he knows he can do 10-12 rounds easy so he will be even more dangerous now against AJ

[@alambyant]

You must be insane if you think Ngannou beat Fury.

[@SamP_YouTube]

Doesn’t have a great chin to recover based on the one fight he got stopped in? Recovered in any other where he’s been put down

[@leeferguson1077]

Great show as usual guys but I don't see how you can say Ngannou would be a better fight than Zhang

[@sirlancenotalot2765]

AJ doesn’t deserve to fight Fury as it stands. He only earns that right if he fights and beats Hergovic this year. Otherwise Fury vs AJ shouldn’t be happening in 2024. AJ hasn’t beaten anyone of substance in YEARS now.

[@SamP_YouTube]

Who deserves it over AJ?

[@sirlancenotalot2765]

@@SamP_KZbinHergovich is mandatory number 1 contender so him for starters … Parker had the stones to fight Wilder so he’s over AJ for me also. Zhang beat Hergovich (controversial) so I’d put him third. Dubois almost beat Usyk who beat AJ twice in a row so him fourth. Seriously what has AJ done for us lately? 💍

[@SamP_YouTube]

@@sirlancenotalot2765 Parker did have the stones to fight Wilder but let’s be real what has Wilder done since the Fury fights…

[@sirlancenotalot2765]

Yes I agree with you, Wilder is washed up. Fury exposed that if you fight Wilder on the front foot and back him up then he just doesn’t know what to do. So now the hack to beat him is out there. But for me, it still means Parker has beaten someone more significant than AJ has in years now. AJ is just Eddies cash cow, they try to get away with giving him as many easy fights as possible because he brings in the big bucks. And he batter a average heavyweights every time, so everyone gets excited about him again. Then as soon as he comes up against a top 3 contender he loses. Every time

[@sirlancenotalot2765]

Spent the first 5 mins talking about football. Bit of a newsflash, not all boxing fans like football.

[@user-qt5qk2yb1t]

I keep commenting but get no replies why is this? JR Moorby

[@user-ws1gp3gy2j]

Ufc is not sport is a business

[@salsawikabeta9253]

Yall keep over looking this man

[@jamietooheyhtafc99]

ya wrong again

[@bee3148]

Simon finally recovered from his schooling by uncle Frank

[@taffpunk]

Simon 🤣🤣🤣

[@bee3148]

@@taffpunk 😂 what’s his name again? Adam or Simon? I know the big’un is Nick

[@antonjoseph552]

No because aj will never be the same after Francis !

[@S.A-GMail]

He’ll destroy Francis.

[@mxbblife_mu]

AIN'T NOBODY Knocking out Ngannou... Especially Not in Boxing with those Big 10oz Pillows on their fists.... Those punches may hurt Boxers who never got punched in the face with 4 oz gloves or kicked, Elbowed or Knee'd in the head.... Ngannou never been KOed or even Knocked Down... The best Boxer in Boxing ever (Who the Boxing Community said could beat Muhammad Ali and Fight in any Era) couldn't even put a Dent in Ngannou.... After MMA thoroughly embarrassed Boxing 2 months ago, now AJ is the Great Black Hope sent to Restore Order in the Universe 😂😂😂 No!.... As soon as Ngannou touches AJ up, he will be acting just like Tyson Fury did, Scared to death to commit and on his Bike for the Remainder of the Fight

[@saintdon4461]

Ali corner resorted to cheating to beat cooper... so yes ali could be beat , even in his prime

[@K_j_M]

10oz boxing glove let's you hit harder numnut. It's hand protection, not face protection. It's not even debatable. Go check the facts online

[@K_j_M]

And what mentality is... MMA embarrassed boxing? Ngannou landed a few on a woeful Fury, in a boxing match, not an MMA match. More or less stood still waiting for counters. It really wasn't a good fight from a technical standpoint. Fury has a career of those fights behind him. Your man did well but, he'll not see that success in a ring again

[@S.A-GMail]

@@saintdon4461Fury’s got one elite win in Klitschko and isn’t taking PEDs cheating? The boar testicle eater doesn’t beat Ali. People overrate Fury because he beat Wilder who is completely garbage. The “greatest of any era” narratives will stop when Usyk schools this man.

[@S.A-GMail]

Come back to this comment when AJ stops Ngannou. Maybe Ngannou won’t be knocked out cold but he will be stopped. The boxing community WAS NOT saying Fury is the greatest of any era, his fan boys were though. He hasn’t even proven himself to be the best of this era. The reason Fury couldn’t put a dent in Ngannou is because he is not a big puncher and has never been known to be. People believe he’s a puncher now because he stopped chinny Wilder a couple of times. Wilder was getting dropped early in his career by bums like Harold Sconiers.😂 AJ hits way harder and Ngannou won’t just walk through his punches.

[@alambyant]

Fury will kill Joshua.

[@JayDee9292]

Pull ur tongue out of fury’s arse son. He’s fallen off live with it

[@S.A-GMail]

In your dreams. Your man couldn’t drop Chisora once in THREE fights.😂 Even in the most recent fight when Chisora was shot to pieces and had been floored three times by Joseph Parker.