Will YOU Give Starfield A SECOND Chance (Or Play it AGAIN)? - Shattered Space DLC

In a recent interview Todd Howard discussed the future of Starfield, and revealed that Shattered Space - the game's first DLC - will arrive in the Fall of 2024. Is this then, Starfield's second chance?
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[@noncompulsoryl]

I'll play it again once all major dlcs have been released and the official modding tools have been around for a good while.

[@Mike_Oxlong07]

This shit isn't getting dlc

[@noncompulsoryl]

@@Mike_Oxlong07 Shattered Space is dlc.

[@Mike_Oxlong07]

@@noncompulsoryl fair enough. I stand corrected. Waste of time though. Game is garbage dlc or not. Mods might save it but I don't think Bethesda has any quality games left in them

[@noncompulsoryl]

@@Mike_Oxlong07 OK then.

[@olsonbrandon91]

​@@noncompulsorylhe speaks facts

[@KaanTechCrazy]

Depends on how much they are going to rework lot of the game.

[@DavidKnowles0]

They need a major push to eliminate and hide loading screens.

[@Nemoticon]

@@DavidKnowles0 That's not going to happen... it's a fundamental problem with the way the game has been made.

[@fedord01]

Why would they rework the game?

[@harrasika]

​@@DavidKnowles0 no they don't. Nobody cares about loading screens if a game is fun and engaging to play.

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@harrasika After playing several PS5 exclusives with zero loading screens or well hidden ones, playing games with loading screens has become annoying to me now no matter how good the game is. I guess it has to other players as well or may be it just me.

[@RusShiro]

never gave up on it, had a great time from the start and am puzzled by the amount of hate.

[@Gorthek1]

I wish we could actually do something with the ships we are building.

[@user-oz8qg4co9y]

right even store them on ur own base plantent in a cargo Room!

[@seehund3820]

True

[@nickohhh]

Great point! I forgot about how that felt to only really get to enjoy the ship on take-off or landing cinematics.

[@TheMusicolophile]

Like what?

[@danitheiler2402]

Why give it a second chance? I love this game. It's kind of a declaration of love to the space program. With its characters, stories and planets, it's also much more tangible than a "No Man's Sky" could ever be. I'm really looking forward to everything else that's coming for this game. Vehicles are already confirmed.

[@lp2059]

people complaining about loading screen while expecting a game, which was made with the goal of being a RPG to game, which was made with the goal of being a sandbox open world game. Gamers have become some of the biggest clowns.

[@justinchauvin8167]

I’m hoping somebody makes an interplanetary travel mod so I can spend some time between planets. I realize it wouldn’t be for everyone, but I would like the option. Points of interest away from planetary orbit would be nice too.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

There is actually a mod like this already actually several, only difference is I’m not sure if you can exit piloting while the ship travels. But you can manually fly between planets, the game was technically designed with this. Personally I wish Bethesda went with that direction been though I do like the game

[@iChandrian]

technically you can, its just very slow, there are mods to speed up your ship.

[@Dave_Langer]

@@irecordwithaphone1856? manually as in NMS and Elite?

[@mindsunwound]

I'm one of the people still playing, I'm about one session away from level 100, and only need a handful more powers to have the full set at max... Once the powers are all leveled, I plan to power level using outposts, and maybe start playing some side content.

[@ArcaneCowboy]

Hearing about this DLC and with the update I finally bought Starfield and started playing.

[@dutch6658]

I started a new save recently, not bothering with the main storyline this time and I am really enjoying it. Looking forward to seeing what they are going to release regarding ship building

[@blockmasterscott]

I like the game a lot. Sad thing is that I’m expecting a lot of backlash here for saying that.

[@imawaflbeast4864]

I also enjoyed the game I really like how they did the new game plus and I enjoyed the main story

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@blockmasterscottIt’s pretty ridiculous isn’t it how you can’t say you like even the tiniest thing about it without a high likelihood someone is come in going “but I don’t like it so you shouldn’t like it either” and drop toxic hate for no reason

[@maxdamagus]

I loved it. It kinda pretends to be some things it isn't. But faction wise it has some of my favourite questlines and characters in any Bethesda game. Docking with and raiding enemy ships is bloody underrated.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

For me it’s the designs and artwork that really take the cake. All the alien variety on planets with life and the general aesthetic of the game is on point. At least as a hard sci-fi fan I really love what the artists did with the game. The music is great too

[@EvilTeddie23]

Docking with Varun Prophesy III on the hardest setting is fun as hell and you get some good drops.

[@TheGabesnell]

Ya, I liked the characters, I think it could have had some more complex mechanics but I enjoy the game. But I also am Sci-fi bias

[@jordoncrider3808]

Having played over 350 hours across 3 characters, I’m very much looking forward to land vehicles, interior ship customization, and the Shattered Space DLC. I’ve taken a break from the game since late January to work on other hobbies, but I’ll be jazzed to have some new stuff to return to in the next few months.

[@Biomancy]

I never stopped playing it. The trick is to treat it like it's own ip and not expect it to play like a fallout or elder scrolls game

[@sebf.w.i4901]

Starfield is awesome, I'm happy with it. I'm playing it a second time now and I can't wait for the dlc, and I'm happy if they improve the ship building system. I heard about "new ways of travelling through the stars" and I hope they'll improve the space travel system to be a bit more space sim.

[@Archaon12]

I don't think I'll give it another chance. The travel loading really killed it for me. I wanted an "open world" simulation and it's just not the game I hoped for.

[@TruthIsKey369]

It's called being lied to, and THEY knew it after all their hype BS

[@PointlessAccountno.7654]

@@TruthIsKey369 Oh clam down it was hardly a 'No Mans Sky' pitch

[@lp2059]

another "I expected an RPG to be like a sandbox game" clown

[@ThePawel2880]

I kinda enjoyed 120 hours of playing starfield, but i will be back when the creation kit will be released and the mods will expand the gunplay

[@Bambeakz]

You can not say that on YT...You have to hate on the game! (also 100+ hours and yeah it was faulty and fun)

[@thebaffman4898]

I'm at almost 100 hours and yet to complete the main story (and that is almost completely ignoring planet exploration). Honestly the gunplay is the least of the problems. If the planets were not copy pasted I would have dumped 200+ hours in this game because it's so fun. The game just needs more variety, more building types, more unique things on planets and a more varied geography in general to justify exploration, otherwise it just feels like you're wasting time. Scanning flora and fauna is not nearly enough.

[@GenXRanter]

Is it popular enough to justify modders putting in the effort? I don't know.

[@raybrown7382]

I know I am in a minority, but I have been enjoying playing the game all these months since the release and will definitely try out a new DLC

[@nickohhh]

I'm glad to hear it! What have you been enjoying in particular? Has the story and quest design sustained your interest, and have you been enjoying the relationships and interactions you have with your crew/team?

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@nickohhhFor me personally though I’m not the original commenter I love the alien variety on different planets, I think it’s a very overlooked part of the game and the designers didn’t get enough props for their work. Every planet with life the aliens are so different, and they even change colors in different biomes. I just like that aspect of it, and I like that planets have multiple biomes with actual differences. When I first saw a frozen mountain biome I thought the scale of it was really cool. And how biomes mesh together if you land in between them So while I also like the rpg elements and gunplay, I mostly enjoy this type of sci-fi aesthetic. I think the artwork and all the details of the aliens are great. I spent a lot of time surveying planets because the aliens were just different each time and unique. I think the aliens are the best part of exploration in Starfield, though I wish the game had more POIs/caves/buildings etc. The planets and moons having different gravity is a nice gameplay mechanic too

[@TruthIsKey369]

Simple people enjoy simple things, regardless of how broken it is.

[@drink15]

yup, 100%. I'm one of the few people that had fun playing Starfield.

[@lioraja9951]

not few lol. I am 100% with you ;-)

[@Bambeakz]

Same

[@traumagain]

Same

[@seehund3820]

Same

[@FreshAirGamer]

Same. I've loved it since day one. Can't wait to see how they enhance the game over the next year or so.

[@TheGarethLusk]

Will def go back to it and get the DLC. Enjoyed the game and put over 100hrs into my first playthrough. Variety and content much needed going forward though

[@efxnews4776]

I played over 40 hours, then get bored and install Cyberpunk again, and then i completely forgot that Starfield was in my library....

[@Jorendo]

@@efxnews4776 I did the same, and then got reminded how to do proper first person melee combat, and how to redeem your game. Played it before the reworks and now going trough the reworks, very different game, it's great. Bethesda really needs to get their act together, they worked with very outdated game mechanics and the only part that worked well was the shooting, but the AI was beyond stupid, the melee sucks and flying isn't way to basic, and what is the point of flying in space anyway when you can just go into the menu and poof, you are there. Nothing is worked out that well. They need to fix a lot to make it interesting.

[@Bambeakz]

@@efxnews4776 Well if you enjoy Cyberpunk you know a game like this can be fixed

[@efxnews4776]

@@Bambeakz A game like Cyberpunk indeed can be fixed, a game like Starfield? No, it can't be fixed... You see, the problem of Cyberpunk was mostly external problems or technical ones, the external problems were mostly CDPR managment russhing the game despite not being ready, the technical problems came from this problem. BUT the CORE gameplay of Cyberpunk was there from day 1, the story, characters, quests, the open world, all that, was there from the beggining. Starfield is know to be the least buggyest game of Bethesda so far, but it also is the more souless and uninspired game they ever did. in the points where Cyberpunk shines, Starfield failed horribly. And yes techinical problems can be fixed, lack of vision, lack of inspiration, there's no fixing of such things...

[@2killzore]

If you look at the game awards, the companies that win are usually fantasy RPGs. The sci fi counterparts from said studios never win, like fallout, mass effect, armoured core, cyberpunk, .... Starfields Scope and scale and the sheer amount of things you can find if you actually play it deep enough makes it rather unique for a open space game that's an RPG as well... I haven't stopped playing it so far, and can't wait for the dlc.

[@maverickbc38]

I have over 600 hrs in the game, i like it.. :)

[@Bambeakz]

Oh wow what the hell did you do for 600 hours? I quit at 100 something and think i could pull 150 hours but that is about it. A lot of ship building or spamming bases?

[@maverickbc38]

@@Bambeakz Base building, been to every system, alot of exploring ng+ 10 on 5 or 6 characters. I just enjoy the gameplay. I also look for differences in each playthrough to find things I didn't notice before.. :)

[@TimPilcher]

​@@maverickbc38In other words, you actually play the game.. What a concept!! 😂😂

[@maverickbc38]

@@TimPilcher Yup, lol

[@chewxx9115]

I actually enjoy Starfield. Had 120hrs in my 1st playthrough. Just begun my 2nd one with quite some mods and will do the new game plus when the DLC releases later this year.

[@WingC3]

I'll definitely give it another play. But I'd like to see a little more thought go into things. For example, the dev's consideration of Akila city really didn't go much past "Make it look like the wild west!" No one apparently stopped to consider how a society that apparently couldn't pave the streets of its capital city was somehow the best ship builders in the galaxy and had a larger fleet than the United Colonies. Evidence of rushed, simplistic writing that they evidently expected would take a back seat to graphics. All that being said, I still enjoyed it, and it was gorgeous. Let's see how it goes from here.

[@grippygecko6843]

They don't even have a doctor.

[@nickpatrick7444]

I thoroughly enjoy it and can’t wait for further content including creation kit and all that it’ll lead onto

[@KitHavok]

I played it for about 2 or 3 hours and then decided I'll wait for improvements and VR so it'll be good as new to me 😇

[@cheesyvoid3143]

I'm not ready to experience more loading screens.

[@lp2059]

"why isnt an RPG made the same as a game, which was made with the goal of being an open world sandbox". clowns

[@cheesyvoid3143]

​@@lp2059 If an RPG requires loading screens to open doors, then whoever thought it was a good idea for a "next gen" game needs to update their take on game development. There are a number of RPGs out there, even from 10 years ago that do not use loading screens for a simple task like "entering doors". Moreover, for a game that uses procedural generation, why would planets need to be divided by fish bowls with not a hint of consistency? It's like some "indie devs" weren't able to go away with this outdated design 8 years ago.

[@mjjenkins8809]

Starfield remains one of my favorite games, I still play it to this day. I thoroughly enjoy your Starfield videos and hope you continue to make them. I am really looking forward to the mod tools and the new expansion coming out later this year.

[@blockmasterscott]

Agreed. I think it’s a fantastic game.

[@hamishdundee385]

This game really needs VR. The uptake on Fallout 4 VR game players has increased since the series released so Bethesda has a reason to make this VR as well.

[@Virtual_Sphere_]

Yes of course. With the upcoming update it'll add the fallout feel to it with the ship customisation, etc. Also the breakdown of items to use towards furniture is part of the update. Then with future updates like the vehicle and expansion, I'll definitely be getting back in to it as well as possibly make more mods for the game once again.

[@schelsullivan]

I was looking at something to play after elite dangerous. After all the discourse after release, I took a pass. Maybe I'd give a 1st chance after dlc gets reviewed.

[@acidtwin]

Play Cyberpunk and have a great experience.

[@harrasika]

​@@acidtwin not a space game

[@Thiniking]

Mate, X4 or anything else before that turd.

[@XxCleanUpBoyxX]

Play NoMansSky, that's great now. Especially in VR... 👍🏼😋

[@lioraja9951]

it wont be like ED but at least the game has tons of fun and not endless grind like ED... and dont listen to the salty comment. They did not even play starfield but they need to follow the trend

[@commander_fu6457]

For me the game ran good and it felt really solid, like the whole feel of the movement and interactions with the environments. While I was going in, knowing it will involve a non-seamingless gameworld with transtional loadingscreens, I gotta say, there were a few too many, which really hurt the gameplay over time. I also was expecting WAY more different assets to explore on planets. They completely shat the bed in regards to that, since there are like 10 different things (like stations, caves etc.) you can explore and you have seen everything in no time, if you like running around and exploring planets. I wish they would have put more time and effort into that. The weapon variety and crafting options were really good though just like the combat. The basebuilding though... it felt so unfinished and there was no real incentive or reason to even engage with that clunky feature. Since the game is not that old yet, I'm willing to give them a chance to improve and maybe look into playing it again when they deliver something that's interesting.

[@chaliics]

I recently picked up Starfield again after i stopped playing it at end of last year. A lot has been fixed, and performance been improved, much better experince currently. Space travel mechanic between stars is my biggest pain in the game.

[@joshnizzle]

I might try it again. Especially if the mod community keeps going. I think they should’ve had some planets that had failed civilizations on it and areas like that to explore. Like what if you had went and landed on a planet and saw the remnants of giant structures that a past civilization had built that was no more. And you could explore all that. That would’ve been cool.

[@hammerman199374]

I'm the wrong person to ask because I'm one of those 5K players on Steam still playing the game regularly. I'm afraid I can't answer what draws me to it even being aware of and acknowledging all of its problems. Maybe it comes from the same place within that causes me to constantly reroll alts in other games just to go through lower level content again, trying new ways through it. I will say that mods help the game tremendously. So while I'm very much looking forward to the DLC, I'll be even more excited to finally have the official mod support when it comes.

[@lunamaria1048]

I subscribed to you many years ago because of our mutual love of Elite Dangerous AND space games! I appreciate the updates on SF and will play the DLC😁

[@mrtiff99]

I put about 8 hours into it, I didn't hate it, I didn't think it was that bad I just moved on. Maybe I'll go back to it one day. This video is the first time I've seen it since last september, I think graphically its quite quite pleasing on the eye

[@ivanputignef2418]

I have the DLC included in the package I purchased, so I'll look forward to playing it. Everything is moving at a much slower pace than I was expecting, though. I hope the creation kit gives new life to the game.

[@jasonlee7195]

For Bethesda games, I usually come back after a year or 2 after the modding tools are released to enjoy the game with mods. The high quality mods are what make these games great.

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

Shattered Space seems quite a fittong name for a game with such a fragmented system of travelling.

[@rioplats]

Yep, will likely hop in again when it drops, as the setting looks pretty interesting and I'm always up for more handcrafted content. By that time I'd hope that the buggy they teased is fully implemented, which would make the interim between landing and content much more manageable. They'll still need a massive overhaul of the POI system if they want Starfield to have anything near the sort of map staying power of Skyrim or Fallout 4, but with how we can see the engine works right now with xEdit, not impossible, just a significant effort.

[@Spidder81]

I will but only after the DLC has been released, mods are available after mods are made through creation kit, and a bunch more updates including whatever the new way to travel is supposed to be. They are just being unreasonably slow with all of this, really is baffling.

[@urazz7739]

If I recall a lot of the modders for Starfield abandoned the game so unless some of the glaring problems are fixed, I don't see things changing all that much.

[@djstraylight]

I'll play it at the end of 2024. Hopefully we'll have some quality of life updates from Bethesda, some awesome mods to fix planetary generation, settlements & other areas and the Shattered Space DLC.

[@JAF30]

If I didn't already have a long still underplayed game list on steam, I might jump in, but I have to get through most of the list first.

[@MrMattyFo]

I will, maybe not right away but eventuality. Even though it failed to live up to massive expectations, i still had fun playing it. It was pretty simple and straight forward.

[@WELLbethere]

Strangely, fallout 4 has better exploration than starfield. Because everything is on a single map and can be seen in the distance, your simple wandering can uncover all kinds of locations and quests, whereas in starfield every planet is a flat terrain landscape with some foliage and animals sprinkled in, and the same copy/paste locations over and over again. There's no reason to go anywhere and there's no where to even go. All the unique places are seperated by several layers of loading screens.

[@AW-ix5qg]

Yes! There's what feels like 6 hand crafted maps in the game and maybe half of those are actually interesting and fun to explore, the rest is just bland.

[@JoeBauers]

Nooooooooooo….. Life too short 🎉

[@dangarcia1617]

Says the simp living in mommas basement 😂

[@Kathrynerius]

@@dangarcia1617What???

[@deehubb2332]

😂😂😂

[@TheLoneLlama]

Agreed my dude. There are too many better games to play right now.

[@melodicatofficial3065]

Says the guy who still plays starfield LOL ​@@dangarcia1617

[@paultorney6552]

Todd says many things, I have learnt to ignore them. I am waiting for the creation kit to drop and then for the mods made using it to fix the game somewhat. Only then will I give it another go.

[@flute136]

Already started a new run. Never messed with particle beam weapons or ship building/fighting so im doing both at once. Of course tons of mods to go with it, as i just cant play this game without them.

[@philgraves4998]

I think I paid for the dlc already so I'll check it out! However after 50 hours in Starfield I got bored and went back to Cyberpunk 2077 and never looked back!

[@channing76]

Exact same thing happened to me. Cyberpunk is so good especially the DLC.

[@lp2059]

short dopamine aaah window. cant enjoy games anymore, smh modern gamers

[@yous2244]

I never bought it

[@chrisclark6705]

Space traversal was underwhelming. If they allow you to zip around planets and to other planets without using your nav menu and encounter battles, ships, abandoned stations and points of interest along the way, then i feel this will greatly improve the experience. I can live without the whole landing and taking off. But i can’t live without the ability to point my ship in one direction, engage a super cruise of sorts and watch my radar tempt me into dropping out of it and exploring what i am about to blast past. It should have been there at launch. Hopefully it will come at the dlc but i think they are just focussing on land vehicles.

[@masongriffin7629]

I hope they rework the shipbuilding aspects. That was going to be my fav part but the lack of ability to freely place parts killed it for me. I like some of what they have but it drives me crazy that I can't place a part in the perfect spot to achieve the build I want due to built in mechanics

[@DJEnglish]

Starfield is a beautiful game and will definitely give it a second chance with the new DLC

[@driver3899]

Not interested in a space exploration game where the exploration is just a fast travel menu and I doubt they can change that

[@lp2059]

it is an RPG, people that say this exact same thing are downright clowns

[@driver3899]

@@lp2059 the RPG elements (which themselves are very sallow) don't have anything to do with my comment

[@Ray-dl5mp]

It would be much more exciting for people if this was the land vehicle release moment. When they release vehicles and they have a plan for making exploration more fun, then you will see people start saying the comeback lines. Until then, it’s very nice for people that really enjoy the game like me. But for the average gamer, they need to fix exploration. I think they realized the hard way that most people don’t want space exploration to be “realistic”. Red Dead 2 gets it right. You need interesting stuff pretty close by at all times. Even if it’s not “realistic”.

[@VOR4DORS_RAVEN]

I'm waiting for more meaningful content and mods. 400+ hours in and then I just stopped playing...

[@redkiwi5980]

I’ve dropped 400 hours into it and I love it. Can’t wait to see what comes next.

[@SilvioManfredDante]

It's not even worth sailing the high seas for.

[@wolfwing1]

yeah, I played it on gamepass for like 5$'s, and only then because lies of P was out shortly after.

[@glorrion1332]

I probably won't play it all the way through again, but depending on what the DLC offers, the new content might be worth a look. Let's wait and see. 🙂

[@EvilTeddie23]

I put 700+ hours into and despite all the crashes and restarts went to NG+ 15 and got the best armor and had every top tier ship, built many but then the crashes started again and finally the ships I stole for cash stopped spawning and I was like, fuck this, what's the point?

[@socialwheeler2841]

I got the game because I appreciated the more grounded aesthetic compared to No Man's Sky, and I was really looking forward to the ship building aspect. I was hugely disappointed by it. Assuming it get's fixed, and allows things like ladders placement, and greater variety in the modules, I might come back. But only after seeing a LOT of reviews and videos about it. I made the mistake of preordering. I knew better but this channel, (and the fact that I had never played a game by Bethesda before and didn't know it's reputation) hyped me up for the ship building and...well....yeah. Anyways, won't be making that mistake again. I might also be too busy with MSFS 2024.

[@Moonlightkiller003]

Funny, because for me the shipbuilding was probably the best part of the game. Of course not perfect but to even have a feature to build your own spaceship that works (in my opinion) relatively well was incredible for me. However it was hugely overshadowed by the fact, that your ship is basically a useless brick. You almost never get to use it and the few times you do you are fine with a stolen stock ship... Also everything else about the game was mostly just "okay" for what it's worth. With some major hickups sprinkeled in between (bugs, loading screens, writing you name it). I had a bit of fun with it, but it was honestly Zer0 memorable...

[@attlan]

It was worth 180 hours of my time originally despite the issues, so will certainly be keen to see how they have improved the game.

[@cygnusjabberwock]

My last I actually built a civilization City that was self-sustaining

[@blackraven3720]

I will wait till all DLC is out, and a massive sale, and at that point point they also be much more mature mods

[@pgm1673]

Still playing, it's a terrific game. Does need new content badly now though.

[@SuperExtremeTNT]

I have still yet to play a Bethesda game, i thought star field could be the one, but still more Bethesda like than space like

[@Kathrynerius]

If there's any Bethesda game to try, it's the one that's not, New Vegas.

[@mariaveenema4337]

I already had. Went in with vastly different expectations. Enjoyed myself. Decided to stay in my original universe. I'll see what shattered space is all about when it drops. As I'm getting it for free anyway.

[@praoscrihdoe5463]

My potato PC wont let me leave the starting city monorail...

[@tzeneth]

As they've basically said they're not going to rework the game at all and no reworks were on their roadmap, no I'm not going to give the game a second chance. I still won't recommend it to anyone. I will try out the expansion, since I already paid for it and see if the storyline is as least decent and if they do anything with the lore but considering modern Bethesda's track record with lore, I don't have much hope, even if House Varun is likely the subject of the DLC and the most interesting part of the setting. Then again, Bethesda likes to have interesting things happen in the past of the setting and you come afterward, so who knows if the story will even be entertaining (none of the plots of Starfield were good, but I did find the Vanguard one entertaining, if very predictable).

[@mtpstv94]

An expansion isn't going to significantly change a base game if at all. That never happens.

[@iDEATH]

I'm willing to give it another shot, but I liked it from the start and that never changed. Maybe because I stopped playing while I was still enjoying it, because of Phantom Liberty. That worked out, because I really wanted to give the modders time to cook, and I knew it'd take for the Creation Kit release to really give them that opportunity. I won't blindly pick up the DLC, but I am at least tentatively interested in it.

[@Sharkx2me]

I certainly won’t be shelling out money on dlc. Still feel ripped off from my early buy in. Maybe give it another look if the dlc drops to under $10

[@rattled6732]

No

[@ShadeGuitarist1]

To be honest? I left Starfield. After being a Bethesda fan for a long time. It was "hollow" compared to Fallout or Skyrim. As I know Bethesda, their DLCs are actually that, added content, nothing to change the base game. And, even if this is a reason NOT to play it again, I probably will try again, just because I kinda want it to be good still.

[@ShadeGuitarist1]

Also waiting for the modding tools, so people can start fixing what was hollow.

[@Kozi03]

Ship and base building will need a major overhaul as well as QOL improvements for me to play and I've already paid for it.

[@mind-less]

Sure. Once the game is truly completed.

[@WestOfEarth]

I'm going to wait for a "No Man's Sky / Cyberpunk 2077" revamp before I buy it.

[@kenpachiramasama1139]

It not going to happen Todd just did an interview and he doesn’t see a problem with the game.

[@WestOfEarth]

@@kenpachiramasama1139 thanks for the heads up.

[@_DigitalDave_]

I wont try it again, Doesnt fix the primary way of doing missions or the general emptyness and copy paste facilities. I played for bout 12 hours n never again

[@parawill7074]

I've stepped away from Starfield because I don't want to go too far before the modding tools are released. I know that we have NG+, but I don't want to lose what I've built so far, so I'm taking a break waiting on the modding to open up more. Love the game, but I will be playing it for years, so no rush to play it too much.

[@aejackson]

Actually just doing my first run through now... Enjoy it quite a lot

[@blockmasterscott]

Well, after the mod fiasco on Skyrim and Fallout 4, and Sony backtracking on graphics for outfits in Stellar Blade, I’m gonna have to put anything that is AAA on hold until all the dust settles down. There’s just too much money involved.

[@Kathrynerius]

No, because the base game, the fundamentals, the story, are all fucked. There's no way a little DLC will fix all of that. They would have to rework and rewrite so much, and no game studio has ever done that. The closest was Mass Effect 3 created an extended ending, but they left 95% of the game the same. There's no chance they'll make a Far Harbor or Nuka World that rewrites the whole base game story.

[@3vilSuperman]

No Man's Sky did.

[@efxnews4776]

@@3vilSuperman Yes, but NMS is from Hello Games, we are talking about Bethesda here...

[@efxnews4776]

@@3vilSuperman also, Hello Games updated the game for Free, Bethesda is launching a DLC, the better example here would be Cyberpunk, but Cyberpunk ALSO update their game for free, and them launched the DLC. And also let's take in account that Bethesda failed where it matters most in a Bethesda game, in the enviromental storytelling, exploration, story and characters, i highly doubt Bethesda is capable to fix this even with a DLC.

[@Kathrynerius]

@@3vilSuperman They rewrote the whole story for the game? I know they did like 25 content updates adding vehicles and building bases and stuff.

[@theBlankScroll]

I just wish it hadn't felt LESS advanced than skyrim when it came out.

[@paulwest3905]

Yes. It can be a fun game but they absolutely MUST randomize the contents/objects/npcs/loot for the standardized modular base POIs. It makes the travel issue (which is bad and likely cannot be worked around completely) just that much worse when you know exactly where every object, enemy and item will be located. It can't be too terribly hard to modify these to accept more random elements. Those smashed inop doors? Make them a valid section you can open and visit. This ain't rocket science BGS, no pun intended. The current beta has some real issues so after playing a bit I reverted to vanilla until the 15th. Still hoping they will get to respectability eventually. Thanks for covering OA!

[@CasepbX]

I never gave it a first chance haha!

[@Marcelgaminggranie]

I Highly doubt that the DLC will be enough to fix the game's glaring flaws

[@lp2059]

cant see any flaws making it a bad game. Gamers nowadays dont know what they want anymore with their short attention spans and high/wrong expectations.

[@CaptainBrash]

I'll give it a first chance sometime. It's funny, when it was released people were furious with me for saying I'd wait for it to be on sale and it became irrelevant very quickly.

[@fb6ins1z1]

I finished the main story and am now waiting for the influx of mods when modding tools become available. The base game is good. Not great or amazing but good. I find it is a great platform for all the mods that I expect will add SO MUCH content and replayability. This game will be like Fallout 76. It will get better and eventually millions of players will return.

[@popuptoaster]

Not if it's just a new story, game lacks anything to keep you interested beyond the main quest adding more story wont fix the rest of the games lack of things to keep you interested.

[@alexwalters35]

The main quest kept you interested? It's just getting magical powers and then resetting the game over and over. It's one of the worst storyline's Bethesda's done and they aren't known for their storytelling skills to begin with.

[@popuptoaster]

Interested enough to want to find out how it ended.

[@lp2059]

goofy short attention span moment

[@Byehk2047]

Imagine a game with Elite Dangerous seamlessly planet landings, universe scale with Starfield details like colonies, ship/base buildings….. do we just not deserve that

[@Joseph-wh5of]

It's because it's nearly impossible to make and it's very expensive.

[@owlangel7234]

No man's sky did a good job. Unfortunately the flight model and 50s sci fi just don't do for it for me.

[@user-kz9ni8bo2i]

You can have this, play No Man's Sky.

[@g3am]

I wasn't expecting a GOTY contender with all the hype going around, but I still had a good time. Yeah I'll give it a shot. I still dive in from time to time.

[@brianawilk285]

Ill go back to it, I had fun the first time. It was probably the first adventure/ story driven game I had fun playing since Mass effect andromeda. Only thing that was frustrating was the outpost construction mechanics like supply lines. If theres more story type quests Ill definitly go back.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Don't forget to shave your sideburns, bro.

[@brianawilk285]

@@Billy-bc8pk whats. Your issue

[@brianawilk285]

@@Billy-bc8pk so what you have some kind of beef with people that had fun with starfield like seriously get a life.

[@Gazbeard]

I bought the pre-release bundle because like everyone else, I was expecting Skyrim-in-space based off Todd Howard's pre-release comments and leaks. What we got was more like a thinned out Fallout-in-space (Starfield even has some of the same HUD layouts and styles). Because of this, despite including the DLC in my pre-launch bundle, I doubt I'll play it again. Having my "spouse" killed regardless of what I did in an impossible to prevent, scripted, event around 200 hours into the playthrough just completely de-incentivised me to play any further. Also, learning that eventually you have to go through the Nexus and begin the NG+ trail while losing all your gear and companions each time, was the nail in the coffin for Starfield - that methodology is simply player flagellation and punishment, not reward and incentive.

[@GSE52]

What? Todd Howard lied about game content of an upcoming game? That is what he does. Anything he says? Expect the opposite!

[@sinepilot]

I don't think they can fix what I don't like about the game. Unless the new changes affect the sense of scale, count me out

[@olivierpelletier9643]

Hard question honestly. The dissapointment was real and the pill hard to swallow. They would have to rehaul the whole game AND add real and unique content in their DLC. Not just randomly generated locations but real handmade quests, NPCs, cities etcetc...almost a new game in the game itself.

[@user-xs8bl4fg5v]

If starfield didn’t have it’s ship refactor I couldn’t care less, and I crave for an actually good game with similar feature

[@cloud9847]

planets - boring buildings - repeated over and over and boring graphics - bad and outdated on release (1440p ultra graphics on 45" ultrawide OLED monitor) missions - boring I don't have it in me to give this one another go. I'm pissed I purchased the $100 bundle actually.

[@lp2059]

womp womp clown

[@siejcastielle]

Considering most people had problems with this game being so fragmented, the game will always be full of loading screens every minute and no exploration in space...they can't fix that anyways....

[@cedricksusername]

I'm just waiting to get my hands on the Creation Kit at this point. I think it has huge potential as a modding sandbox, even more so than Skyrim or Fallout 4.

[@stuparker776]

Still playing I have been really enjoying it looking forward to the patch as I am still getting lost from time to time and need those maps Still cannot figure out why it's hated so much

[@StreamoConscious]

Short answer, no. I played it for a bit over 200 hours and got to ng+ 7 or 8 (don't remember which) before I deleted it. By that point, even solitaire was more stimulating and less of a chore to play. Fortunately, I didn't pay for the game in the first place. Actually forgot about this game months ago until I saw people online mentioning it again tonight because of the DLC.