44-40 Black Powder VS Smokeless

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We test three 44-40 load’s through an original 1873 Winchester rifle with a 24 inch barrel.
5.5gr W231, 200gr lrnfp
30gr 3F Swiss, 200gr lrnfp
40gr 3F Swiss, 200gr lrnfp

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@kentwilliams3326

Never heard of a wadcutter projectile being called a lead flap point either. Got my first rifle at age 12 and now I am 81.

@jrweischedel249

really like your channel, shot bp a ton as a kid got distracted when girls first came into the picture but started watching you and 11 bang bang a year ago and got my own muzzleloaders again. Thanks for reigniting the interest!

@MrFirmbottom

Never underestimate those "outdated" black pills. 200g at 1400fps is a lot of angst packed into a small space.

@the_great_tigorian_channel

I am not sure whether or not I should be ashamed to admit that I grinned ear to ear when I saw the thumbnail for this video. There's definitely something wrong with me. May I never recover. 😆

@HobbiesHobo

I've never heard of wadcutters being referred to as "Lead Flat Point" , they've always just been called "Wadcutters" as far as I recall. I've only been working off & on in gunshops since 1981 though & only been loading my own for a few years. People just like to argue I guess. 😂

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

Boy, those 30 grain loads were sweet and a perfect day for the smoke to linger

@rayc.1396

Loading 44-40, never had one but knew people with them. The short of it is loading with 3F and a long drop tube, in the neighborhood of 30" or vibrating down, they were using less than 40 grains, one of these fellows had old balloon heads that would take 40 gr. with ease. One of the fellows I knew used wheel weights exclusively, others used soft lead and firmed it up with extra tin or a little WW's. Soft was not used too much in rifle loads due to leading.

@joevalicenti2722

I'm not a reloader and fire factory Winchester Smokeless .44-40 (44WCF) though my excellent almost like new condition 1890 vintage Model 73 and can tell you that it is VERY accurate out to 150 yards by personal experience. Can easily hit a woodchuck size target at that range. Also easily hit a gallon milk jug filled with water (my fave target) at 100 yards and a soda can at the same range but I can occasionally miss the soda can due to me rather than the rifle. Any 73 that is not that accurate is likely fairly well worn.

@davidno1minton997

Dam,right,man

@jasonwright285

Black powder needs oxygen to burn. Maybe 40 grains is just too much, and doesn’t leave enough air in the cartridge for it to do it’s work.

@landonsimpson7839

I learned the hard way about desperado cowboy bullets being too soft. I wouldn't even recommend them for 1000fps. More like 800-900fps. If you remember our emails, your the one who helped me figure it out. Awesome video by the way

@RidgeRunner86

You are going to love that 44-40!

@KevinSmith-yh6tl

Man, I love this channel.

@turtlewolfpack6061

The .44 WCF (.44-40) is the only time, pre the short lived John Browning era (which Winchester inevitably pounded off), was one of the few times they actually got it right!

@tullyhowell1624

There's a sight called "chasing the 44-40 , a few guys ( long term testing and research ) broke down loads ( originals ) and compiled a many paged archive of the 44-40 from 1873 to early smokeless and the "high velocity" loads , a very invaluable resource for early cartridges . The soft bullets need sized larger , and also check your cases , make sure your not sizing down those 44cal bullets , softest lead can be fired fairly fast upwards 1400fps , your bullets too small for your bore

@jamest5804

Thanks for another great video and by the way, you are correct about your bullet description. A full wad cutter looks like a 55 gallon drum. The semi has a short, stubby nose and what you were shooting is a round nosed flat point end of story. Keep these great videos coming.