William Lutz - Doublespeak

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Keith B

Keith B

Күн бұрын

The reason people no longer feel the need to vote

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@MrDravous
@MrDravous 9 жыл бұрын
"war department" -> "department of defense"
@Reverandfatdave
@Reverandfatdave 9 жыл бұрын
Dravous Wild or "Department of Homeland Security"
@Damuse8191
@Damuse8191 9 жыл бұрын
Reverandfatdave "Ministry of Peace"
@marvintpandroid2213
@marvintpandroid2213 9 жыл бұрын
ReggaeGandalf We've always been at war with east Asia
@ashthealluring
@ashthealluring 2 жыл бұрын
Whewww wow
@THA1icarus
@THA1icarus 4 жыл бұрын
Patriot act. Freedom bill.
@bradygentile8035
@bradygentile8035 4 жыл бұрын
Citizens United
@herculeholmes504
@herculeholmes504 4 жыл бұрын
Tic-Tacs are mostly sugar, but because an _individual_ Tic-Tac only contains a very small amount of sugar, it is allowed to be called "sugar free".
@HimynameisjacobNG
@HimynameisjacobNG 4 жыл бұрын
Something less than 5 calories can easily be labeled 0 calories. The mass per item is also frequently different than listed.
@Zudi-p1y
@Zudi-p1y 4 жыл бұрын
@@HimynameisjacobNG legally speaking you can label it as "sugar free" if it is less than 0.5g per serving. Which is the size of one tic-tac which is entirely sugar.
@HimynameisjacobNG
@HimynameisjacobNG 4 жыл бұрын
@Rad Chad Mostly no! But I could eat 100 "0 calorie" candies and hit 499 calories. That's a diet killer.
@samuelwest2551
@samuelwest2551 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone should read (or watch the doc.) "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. This is a huge part of what he talks about.
@aloevera7422
@aloevera7422 4 жыл бұрын
If you read Chomsky you should also read this -- Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff
@kalcidis
@kalcidis 4 жыл бұрын
If you read both books above I can recommend reading some Calvin & Hobbes. Just as a break.
@tejasahluwalia8713
@tejasahluwalia8713 4 жыл бұрын
And Musk said Chomsky "sucks"...
@aloevera7422
@aloevera7422 4 жыл бұрын
@@tejasahluwalia8713 probably because private tyranny is cool for those it serves
@mr.e5791
@mr.e5791 3 жыл бұрын
@@kalcidis 🤣
@randyporter3491
@randyporter3491 3 жыл бұрын
No doublespeak needed today. Today's society are unquestioning followers of media and social media. They are told how to think, how to feel and how to respond. And we do. None of us are immune or exempt, we are conditioned.
@Hyperion4K
@Hyperion4K 2 жыл бұрын
true, but doublespeak adds another layer of manipulation, just to add the cherry on top.
@Theonlyoneto
@Theonlyoneto 4 ай бұрын
Visual deception is the equivalence of double speak
@andrewczski1969
@andrewczski1969 Жыл бұрын
I remember a morning news anchor once saying "Fraud is the grease of American commerce."
@mactastic144
@mactastic144 3 жыл бұрын
Cynicism and Resentment? It's no wonder why I don't like politicians. The crazy thing is that doublespeak is no longer not only verbal.
@beingsharper853
@beingsharper853 Жыл бұрын
A perfect example is "Trickle Down" to cause public attention to turn to what is up there (a LOT of wealth), what of it comes down (a trickle), how it comes down (irregularly), and to whom it comes down. The term distracts everyone from how almost all of our collective wealth ever gets so far up there to begin with, in our "Flood Up" U.S. economy.
@ZimbaZumba
@ZimbaZumba 4 жыл бұрын
The ultimate Doublespeak is calling it 'Spin'.
@burgz8964
@burgz8964 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking hell, NO.... I mean.... Yes? Dunno how I feel about this, it's 6:49 AM and I just wanted to say something, apparently. Speaking of the series, while not naming it (cuz it's funnier): I still haven't finished, or even continued, Stone Ocean. Wierd, because I love the series. But I think I'm just too lazy. But, at the same time, I don't want to miss anything that gets left out, or modified in the anime. (ノ゚0゚)ノ~ So, of course I have to avoid comment sections like the plag-- ...Bad wording. No place is safe. It takes "if you're reading this, it's too late" to an entirely different level.
@sweetbizil
@sweetbizil 9 жыл бұрын
Ever read the book 1984 by George Orwell. Doublethink is exactly the same concept used in that book except with thinking. Great book and highly relevant to todays society despite being written over 60 years ago.
@Leitilumo
@Leitilumo 9 жыл бұрын
And Brave New World. All the entertainment and medicine is used to pacify.
@BlueJDMMR2
@BlueJDMMR2 4 жыл бұрын
Similar vibe in Animal Farm
@Kymimom
@Kymimom 4 жыл бұрын
The book 1984 is what he said he was referring to
@mikefine619
@mikefine619 11 ай бұрын
He does mention it in the video
@cell5066
@cell5066 4 жыл бұрын
It is not a nation that we inhabit, but a language
@scottjanzer5148
@scottjanzer5148 9 жыл бұрын
Shell shock > battle fatigue > post-traumatic stress disorder (shorthand summary from a George Carlin piece)
@anonymousontheinternet1309
@anonymousontheinternet1309 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair one does not have to experience war to experience PTSD. One can be in a car crash and thus form a fear of car rides, that too is a form of PTSD
@quarterburnt
@quarterburnt 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but shell shock is a lousy term. Shock is temporary so we treat it as a non issue. Something that is traumatic and a syndrome actually sounds serious. I love Carlin but he was completely wrong on that.
@Qualex14
@Qualex14 4 жыл бұрын
Not really a good example. You can get PTSD without experiencing war so the first two names aren't exactly descriptive of the disorder
@AnFearCiuin
@AnFearCiuin 4 жыл бұрын
@@quarterburnt Shell shock was the term during WW1. PTSD only came into public lexicon in past 30 years. Carlin didn't make up the definitions he just made fun of the language.
@tedparadiso6916
@tedparadiso6916 2 жыл бұрын
@@quarterburnt sorry but if you go back in time to WW ONE shell shock is very real and sometimes lasted the American and European veterans their whole life ! Shock can last you a lifetime. Fighting in hell trenches short distances apart for very long periods.......the sounds of the explosions alone can mess you up for life...........
@DJPaulFreeman
@DJPaulFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
George Carlin had an incredible insight into double speak. He does a great bit about it. Just search and it should be available to watch.
@alfredramirez6402
@alfredramirez6402 2 жыл бұрын
Look up George Carlins' speech to the Press Club...its genius
@transparent91
@transparent91 4 жыл бұрын
One terrorist target located inside Iraqi pre-school. Joint chiefs: It's our joint opinion the potential collateral damage falls within current matrix parameters. President: Progress achieved today as peacekeeping measures in Iraq are working and our drone projects continue saving American lives.
@taninmoores4943
@taninmoores4943 4 жыл бұрын
Was that a Homeland reference or is that actually something they say
@Johnnybsknees
@Johnnybsknees 4 жыл бұрын
I think that was just an ad-libbed example of double-speak and a pretty spot on take on the way it is currently used
@taninmoores4943
@taninmoores4943 4 жыл бұрын
The joint chief quote is definitely not just ad libbed
@dascrab1234
@dascrab1234 Жыл бұрын
I Bought his book today and so far it's an opener! Or let's say, it opens up and confirmed a lot of things I know about and why I love communication psychology! 🇩🇪✌🏻
@erick1255
@erick1255 9 жыл бұрын
Thought it was Double Think at first from 1984. Basically kind of the same thing.
@Tol1as
@Tol1as 9 жыл бұрын
Rykov G Doublethink is when the whole process is taken one step further: WIlling and able self-deception. When external propaganda has been repeated often enough and from diverse enough sources, the individual begins, in his own mind, to make excuses for those in power and justify their actions. He, in short, begins to accept two two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct at the same time.
@ExecutionStyleInc
@ExecutionStyleInc 9 жыл бұрын
Tol1as Like Ford and Reliability
@paulo7358
@paulo7358 8 жыл бұрын
+Rykov G Doublespeak is as old as the French Revolution, or even older. "Equality, Brotherhod and Freedom" = Lets kill all your Noble Leaders and destroy your Catholic Faith and replace for our Puppets, Globalism and Atheism.
@richardsantanna5398
@richardsantanna5398 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulo7358 It's as old as language.
@muglymae7408
@muglymae7408 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Santanna humans are sinister beings
@FolixFoxtrotDaFurry
@FolixFoxtrotDaFurry 4 жыл бұрын
EA when they call lootboxes 'Suprise Mechanics'
@derekhenriquez5740
@derekhenriquez5740 4 жыл бұрын
WooooW
@therexbellator
@therexbellator 4 жыл бұрын
JFC Dude, EA lives rent-free in your tiny little head. Get a fucking life loser.
@Mixy88
@Mixy88 Жыл бұрын
This is powerful!!!
@dascrab1234
@dascrab1234 Жыл бұрын
I bought his book today and I'll would recommend it to you! 🇩🇪😉
@hallodunase
@hallodunase 9 жыл бұрын
He makes some good points!
@Humphking
@Humphking 4 жыл бұрын
George Carlin had a whole act about this.
@JideOjo
@JideOjo 4 жыл бұрын
I guess this explains to me why I and so many others rallied and still love yang - it was clear to us from first glance that he's genuine and simply himself.
@scottwwsi
@scottwwsi 3 жыл бұрын
like a guy who says biden has a stutter.
@Anthony-fh4gd
@Anthony-fh4gd 4 жыл бұрын
What is reality? Reality is not external. Reality exists not in the mind of the individual, which soon persishes, but in the mind of the party which is collective and immortal. What the party says is reality, is real. How does the party do that? With language. This is so true, if I compare the things you could say 10 years ago with the what you can say now. It's insane.
@TheMylittletony
@TheMylittletony 2 жыл бұрын
Now add the 2 years since you wrote this comments.
@Slarti
@Slarti 9 жыл бұрын
"You are not being made redundant your job is being made redundant."
@cosmicturtle2303
@cosmicturtle2303 5 жыл бұрын
I mean.. thats actually kinda motivational a little.. like when the robots take our jerbs
@Ekricsoot
@Ekricsoot 3 жыл бұрын
"We can't legally fire you, but we the rigth to permanently replace you"
@adrianciuhu9523
@adrianciuhu9523 5 жыл бұрын
'What I've learned ' brought me here.
@pmu615
@pmu615 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@gallectee6032
@gallectee6032 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad he learned the wrong stuff on diet because now he promotes a heart disease and cancer promoting one.
@joslynnthomas3086
@joslynnthomas3086 3 жыл бұрын
What is 'what I've learned '?
@dhrdan
@dhrdan 9 жыл бұрын
"amendment for a stronger tomorrow" - let power companies dump waste.
@cps2175
@cps2175 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Pence is the master of this technique.
@BeranM
@BeranM 9 жыл бұрын
Attorneys and corporators don't speak the language of the peasantry, but you can bet the peasantry presumes to speak the language of attorneys and corporators.
@richardjohn1016
@richardjohn1016 2 жыл бұрын
The rich and greedy don’t speak the same way the poor and charitable do . But the later makes the assumption to know exactly what they are speaking.. did I get what you meant? 😂
@ytmndan
@ytmndan 4 жыл бұрын
"Assault weapons" immediately comes to mind
@AvsJoe
@AvsJoe 5 жыл бұрын
4:30 The Spencer Tracy movie he's referring to is State of the Union (1948), directed by Frank Capra
@finddeniro
@finddeniro 3 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower. . was pissed off. Later..
@Neceros
@Neceros 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, they say "No added sugars" now
@is-fandango6832
@is-fandango6832 26 күн бұрын
seems to day citizens polarize each other
@kris8165
@kris8165 Ай бұрын
"War on Terror" "War on Drugs" "War on Poverty"
@troversy8783
@troversy8783 4 жыл бұрын
after the question asked at 1:12 , lutz sneakily incorporates a form of doublespeak to avoid clearly answering. legend
@SilverDragonTV
@SilverDragonTV 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he was saying, "I don't really know, but probably."
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake 11 ай бұрын
No, he actually gave a very clear and expansive answer. Doublespeak is not when you lead with detail, which is what he was doing.
@ImHeadshotSniper
@ImHeadshotSniper 11 ай бұрын
@@phillycheesetake true. it may have initially seemed like a quick double-speak, but he goes on to establish that he's interested in studying whether what the interviewer asked is true or not because he's also curious of a possible correlation between deceptive double-speaking and a decline in voting.
@xs0ld13rx
@xs0ld13rx 9 жыл бұрын
Great, informative video.
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 4 жыл бұрын
Can give it whatever name you want its just lies.
@theonetruespice
@theonetruespice 9 жыл бұрын
The world The Boss envisioned will soon become a reality.
@levelwithz3779
@levelwithz3779 Жыл бұрын
Who's "The Boss"?
@mr.e5791
@mr.e5791 3 жыл бұрын
"It's not you, it's me" Your girlfriend or wife uses lots of doublespeak. Pay attention guys.
@EternaLivesMatter
@EternaLivesMatter 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! This began with Satan in Eden.
@spenceranderson4563
@spenceranderson4563 9 жыл бұрын
Diversity.
@Edd360
@Edd360 9 жыл бұрын
diversity doublespeak: melting pot - celebrating diversity assimilation - celebrating differences race is skin deep - we are enriched by racial diversity - race is a social construct
@quickman359
@quickman359 4 жыл бұрын
The Spencer Tracy movie he mentions around 5:00 is State of the Union (1948)
@ChrisMarx
@ChrisMarx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was trying to figure that out
@da_laoban_hong
@da_laoban_hong 8 жыл бұрын
Poorly well spoken
@user-ci7we9of6p
@user-ci7we9of6p 8 ай бұрын
Guess how i ended up in this direction, learning off politicians and media, I've presented example's of doublespeak from media and politicians conferences, televised news reports
@achilleze
@achilleze 4 жыл бұрын
what I don't get is when someone is interviewing Trump, or one of the other "Double speakers" why don't they call them out when they do this? E.g., when they pivot, or double speak, can't they just say "give me a real answer - you are double speaking!"?
@TheMylittletony
@TheMylittletony 2 жыл бұрын
They are trained to weasel their way out of that.
@andrewshillingburg5824
@andrewshillingburg5824 9 жыл бұрын
Aka propaganda
@AnonymousRadioRedux
@AnonymousRadioRedux 6 жыл бұрын
No
@jamesonkoolio5861
@jamesonkoolio5861 9 жыл бұрын
"war on terror" - were gonna take all your oils
@trixiemcfly8584
@trixiemcfly8584 3 жыл бұрын
Gets interesting from 03:11 forward. Comment for the perfectly balanced youtube algorithm.
@chrollo6444
@chrollo6444 10 ай бұрын
A good show that does this is “ the boys “ the people who work for vought all speak like this
@JAB227
@JAB227 9 ай бұрын
Doublespeak isnt always meant to mislead. depends how its used and the original intent
@TheNameOfJesus
@TheNameOfJesus 3 жыл бұрын
@0:50 - "we should not *allow* politicians to lie". He said "allow." Okay, how do people enforce that? A law? Has he read the First Amendment? Does the First Amendment need to be abolished to achieve his goals? I consider this statement to be a perfect example of doublespeak. His statement is deliberately ambiguous to the point where we don't know where he stands on free speech. How ironic that an opponent of doublespeak uses it himself. This video is hilarious. Who is the arbiter of doublespeak and who employs this arbiter? Does the arbiter work for the President? This whole idea of suppressing free speech by a government arbiter sounds a lot like what Germany did just before WW2 started. He didn't say we shouldn't elect people who use doublespeak, he said we shouldn't allow it. Big difference.
@Blank-lp4fz
@Blank-lp4fz 10 ай бұрын
2:50 Literally 1984.
@nathanaelitoel9832
@nathanaelitoel9832 5 жыл бұрын
What a masterful manner of manipulating the mind and an amazing astonishing annihilation of human assimilation. A devastating error. δυστυχώς, θα έλεγα - Nathanael de EL
@christopherm3271
@christopherm3271 6 ай бұрын
Amen
@hammadhaider
@hammadhaider 2 жыл бұрын
Language can be a large pile of resource development.
@thedredgod
@thedredgod 4 жыл бұрын
Fox News and McDonald Trump. "Covid will go away with warm weather" -February 2020
@707guardian
@707guardian 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh.... February 2020.... we were all so much younger back then. So full of hope....
@trollbot222
@trollbot222 9 жыл бұрын
Democrats.
@spuddyl9938
@spuddyl9938 9 жыл бұрын
trollbot222 I was gonna say republicans. But then he said it was used by very intelligent people so it can't be republicans.
@TheRevoux
@TheRevoux 9 жыл бұрын
Spuddy L Or just politicians in general.
@c3cvitaly
@c3cvitaly 4 жыл бұрын
@@spuddyl9938 good one
@planesrift
@planesrift 9 жыл бұрын
resource development...lol
@tommyheidendrak3919
@tommyheidendrak3919 9 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it read, "The reason people SHOULD feel the need to vote?"
@salvadorcruz1446
@salvadorcruz1446 4 жыл бұрын
Satan used double speak with Adam and Eve.
@c3cvitaly
@c3cvitaly 4 жыл бұрын
Ayy lmao
@ruelvandijk6854
@ruelvandijk6854 3 жыл бұрын
Satan= misunderstood angel
@skunk12
@skunk12 3 жыл бұрын
He is WRONG about reality. Reality IS external to us. Perception, however, resides in the mind.
@eunoiaeudaimonia6829
@eunoiaeudaimonia6829 8 ай бұрын
Context, there he speaks of a mind that is wholly inculcated in the ideology of the popular opinion.
@skunk12
@skunk12 8 ай бұрын
Right around 3:12 he asks "What is reality?" That is what prompted comment. I didnt hear him clarify that his answer to that question was incorrect.
@aloevera7422
@aloevera7422 4 жыл бұрын
Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff -- is the book everyone who watches this should read or at least familiarize themselves with. Period.
@axiom4823
@axiom4823 4 жыл бұрын
Black Lives Matter = Resource Development Park
@Ponkster
@Ponkster 9 жыл бұрын
This whole video is double speak for "Please for the love of God, buy my book"
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 9 жыл бұрын
Have Mercy Except he uses no word choices to fool you into thinking you want his book...
@n8rm
@n8rm 9 жыл бұрын
No you're thinking by todays standards. He's just informing the uninformed
@SquarePirate_
@SquarePirate_ 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically double speak is now double spoke has political correctness
@AxelC2020
@AxelC2020 4 жыл бұрын
Mayor Pete
@kelleyhice
@kelleyhice 9 жыл бұрын
Anything "sugar free" tastes horrible anyway, bad example. How about "Intelligent Design" ? Created by lawyers and made popular by politicians who wanted religion in schools by teaching Genesis along side Evolution.
@salvadorcruz1446
@salvadorcruz1446 4 жыл бұрын
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@c3cvitaly
@c3cvitaly 4 жыл бұрын
@@salvadorcruz1446 Neither do I, when it is taught in Religious Studies alongside other religions and their myths.
@07sconway
@07sconway 4 жыл бұрын
The movie he is talking about at the end is "State of the Union" - directed by Frank Capra in 1948 www.imdb.com/title/tt0040834/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_22
@charlessmith1718
@charlessmith1718 7 жыл бұрын
incarceration = languishing in jail
@wdpbgpkjwdfbvpkjl1550
@wdpbgpkjwdfbvpkjl1550 4 жыл бұрын
languishing in jail = raped in prison.
@SilverDragonTV
@SilverDragonTV 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually just what the word means. It's not a trick.
@EagerSleeper
@EagerSleeper 4 жыл бұрын
The logo for the book should have had both the origin point "V"s of the speech bubble come from the top, but spaced and curved in a way that made them look like horns.
@finddeniro
@finddeniro 3 жыл бұрын
Mayor $ . .Work Book ?
@911Glokk
@911Glokk 6 ай бұрын
Is the whole video available?
@yandan7010
@yandan7010 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what his name is? I wonder what he authored?
@olavgausaker1
@olavgausaker1 4 жыл бұрын
If you think this is what Trump is doing, it's not. He said it's used by people who are "very intelligent".
@andrewczski1969
@andrewczski1969 Жыл бұрын
Truintranadreveprezzure!
@JiggaWizzaht
@JiggaWizzaht 9 жыл бұрын
Thrice.
@TheAnimatorDave
@TheAnimatorDave 4 жыл бұрын
Trump would like to give everyone a resource development park in their neighborhood.
@danthemede323
@danthemede323 3 жыл бұрын
Not true.
@TheAnimatorDave
@TheAnimatorDave 3 жыл бұрын
@@danthemede323 I'm so relieved to tell you that I don't worry about Trump anymore. He's your problem now.
@0Caracalla
@0Caracalla 4 жыл бұрын
You hear double speak everyday. Sometimes i call it 'speaking in opposites' Someone says 'I like it' when they hate it. 'I'm not hungry'- (translates into: I'm hungry but too polite to say)
@tomelliott9
@tomelliott9 4 жыл бұрын
Thats not double speak that's just lying lol
@McJethroPovTee
@McJethroPovTee 4 жыл бұрын
That's just plain lying. Doublespeak is not lying. It's saying something in a way that it is still kinda true but it's so twisted that it could have meant another thing. It's kinda really close to euphemisms. And example is: >Resource Development - making a garbage dump >Retrenchment - fired >Revenue Adjustment - tax increase All in all it just adds additional complexity to words so that it sounds more appealing than what it really is
@Kiwi_In_Japan
@Kiwi_In_Japan 4 жыл бұрын
1984 was real???
@707guardian
@707guardian 4 жыл бұрын
humanity is real. some writers just understand us better than others. ::glares at the writers of Simpsons::
@sirpsychosexy
@sirpsychosexy 9 жыл бұрын
so basically doublespeak = political correctness
@marvintpandroid2213
@marvintpandroid2213 9 жыл бұрын
sirpsychosexy Yes and no
@phreddy87
@phreddy87 9 жыл бұрын
sirpsychosexy not really yes
@chafaman123
@chafaman123 8 жыл бұрын
+sirpsychosexy calling a missile peacemaker =/= PC
@johannesvonsaaz3987
@johannesvonsaaz3987 8 жыл бұрын
+Heads Tails explain,please
@Ruairoquai
@Ruairoquai 8 жыл бұрын
+sirpsychosexy They are similar but not synonymous. Doublespeak is language that distorts the meaning of words in order to make something appear good. Political correctness is language that is intended to not cause offense.
@ssx47
@ssx47 4 жыл бұрын
that Trumb team language
@yottabyter
@yottabyter 9 жыл бұрын
Just in time for the GOP debate!
@pmu615
@pmu615 5 жыл бұрын
Don't fool yourself, Democrats do it too.
@mcmic1212
@mcmic1212 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, good vid!
@Drewer222
@Drewer222 4 жыл бұрын
Aka double Trump
@pokeygorilla9368
@pokeygorilla9368 9 жыл бұрын
what movie was he talking about at the 5:00 minute mark?
@downforwardjab5503
@downforwardjab5503 4 жыл бұрын
Shrek 2
@MizterB
@MizterB 3 жыл бұрын
State of Union (1948)
@eddycodd7840
@eddycodd7840 3 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS!
@tri1ogy
@tri1ogy 3 жыл бұрын
@HighImpactTV
@kluna1000
@kluna1000 2 жыл бұрын
“High-capacity magazine”
@imadeitt
@imadeitt 5 жыл бұрын
Trump: hold my wig
@aisforapple2494
@aisforapple2494 Ай бұрын
Deliberately misleading language!
@Invertedworldx
@Invertedworldx 4 жыл бұрын
"antifa" anti-fascists being fascist
@tony1449
@tony1449 4 жыл бұрын
Nah
@Invertedworldx
@Invertedworldx 4 жыл бұрын
@@tony1449 Yah
@FBIopenup2390
@FBIopenup2390 4 жыл бұрын
How are you defining fascism?
@c3cvitaly
@c3cvitaly 4 жыл бұрын
same shit. both use violence to reach their political goals. both are cancer, although antifa is more cancerous, because communism killed more people
@FBIopenup2390
@FBIopenup2390 4 жыл бұрын
@@c3cvitaly Using violence to reach political goals is not fascism. Not entirely sure where communism comes into it - your comment sounds like you swallowed an episode of infowars and spewed it out into a (almost)sentence
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