hardwood lumber yard horrors and the greatest guitar scam EVER

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Will's Easy Guitar

Will's Easy Guitar

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@chrisschildmuller
@chrisschildmuller 3 ай бұрын
So glad you reupload all them old videos man! Pure gold knowledge in every single video Have to rewatch everything now 🎉
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for providing nostalgia over the old tone wood wars. It was the only time guitar KZbin was actually fun. Sad it had to end 😢.
@rvaguitars
@rvaguitars 3 ай бұрын
One thing I’ve learned is to never ever ever let the lumberyard select wood for you if you go somewhere and they try to not let you dig through the pile yourself just leave.
@Joe-mz6dc
@Joe-mz6dc 3 ай бұрын
I worked in a hardware store in the '80s yes I am old, but having said that even the concept of not allowing the customer to choose their own wood is ridiculous to me.
@rvaguitars
@rvaguitars 3 ай бұрын
Oh, it’s a thing. I have gone to a couple of hardwood dealers and been told some variation of you have to take whatever is on top and can’t go digging through the pile and I’ve just turned around and left immediately without even looking.
@NahImPro
@NahImPro 3 ай бұрын
bout time this man posted again
@angryroostercreations5194
@angryroostercreations5194 3 ай бұрын
i do cabinetry professionally with my dad, and build a few guitars on the side. Our lumber supplier is usually pretty good. Some times estimated bf is higher than the billed total (my dad has done business with them for over 30 years). However, whenever they bring on new hires, there will almost always be at least one order that gets pulled wrong. They are good about fixing those orders, but you always have to check. Honestly the worst thing to buy (which doesn't apply to guitars) Is ply wood. Sometimes you get a bundle that was never unbanded, and you end up with severely damaged veneers in the middle of the stack. Wind shake can also ruin a piece of dimensionally correct wood. we had half a stack of white oak delivered once that had to be sent back, because excessive wind shake made it useless. Also Nominal size of lumber usually is dependent on whether you buy surfaced, or rough. rough is usually over nominal, or the majority of the rough thickness is over nominal. we get 4/4 maple surfaced and straight-lined, and it always is consistently 13/16. We get 5'4 rough and then plane it ourselves. It usually is close 6/4 when rough, but finishes at or around 1 1/4" when planed and surfaced. If you're being sold rough lumber under nominal your being ripped off.
@Cannonbawlz
@Cannonbawlz 3 ай бұрын
I worked for a few years at a hardwood lumber yard in the mid 80's. The grading system for hardwood basically goes by yield out of board feet. It's graded out and separated using a tally stick when it's in rough sawn form (how it comes from the sawmills). FAS means firsts and seconds (highest grade). S&B means select and better (next grade down). Then it goes to #1 common, #2 common etc. I've seen #5 &#6 common which are pieces you would make small things like knife handles. People think there are different qualities to wood. A piece the size of a toothpick or the size of a table are the same wood, just "yield" difference. When you buy a 3/4" board, you are paying for 1". 1" board you're paying for 5/4 (1-1/4") etc. Anything thinner than 3/4 is re-sawn. You usually have to request it and pay for it. Lumber is sold to the public after it's been run through a planer that sizes and "cleans it up". That is referred to as "S2S" (surface 2 sides) so, the missing 1/4" is part of the planing process that you are not charged for, see? What does a 2x4 measure? S3S is surface 3 sides and is run through a ripsaw to put a straight edge on the board. Cabinet makers generally order it this way, so they have a straight edge to measure from. So, a 2x4 is... you guessed it! S4S. S4S can also be cleaned up rough edges (not parallel) Generally it's sized boards. I know this is long winded but, hopefully it will clear up some of the mysteries. P.S. Thanks to guys like bald limey Ben Crow and others who scream "EVERYBODY BUILD GUITARS!" have kind of ruined things. So, tons of people call lumber yards asking for guitar wood and they are more than happy to sell you some! Just don't forget to bring some KY with you when you pay for it! 😆😅😂🤣
@HorneHarris-no6qw
@HorneHarris-no6qw 3 ай бұрын
That bar example “leftovers” had me laughing my ass off.
@luckysevens.AltRock8
@luckysevens.AltRock8 3 ай бұрын
Your back into the tone wood wars.
@paulsguitarstudio126
@paulsguitarstudio126 3 ай бұрын
I think this guy says everything I wanted to say, thanks Will. I am enjoying the commentary.
@cd0u50c9
@cd0u50c9 3 ай бұрын
19:50 there it is, all you need to know. If it's a stable piece of wood with decent grain and no knots or warping it's 'instrument' grade.
@danyrachman135
@danyrachman135 3 ай бұрын
I miss your content like this, like the old video of you talking about factory guitar etc. Wish I can wacth those video again.....please upload again...
@suavetrainwreck7300
@suavetrainwreck7300 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I would like to share something about getting wood. Years ago I had a muzzleloader with a stock made of swamp ash root and that thing sounder better than any rifle I ever owned.
@WillsEasyGuitar
@WillsEasyGuitar 3 ай бұрын
it has more to do with how it was built than what wood was used. also, over time we lose our hearing using muzzle loaders.
@MG-jn6vl
@MG-jn6vl 3 ай бұрын
I'm really lucky my local lumber yard is very cool. They always round down. But always keep your wits about you because mistakes can be made.
@gregoryjacob624
@gregoryjacob624 3 ай бұрын
I always bring a tape measure to the dealer and measure it myself and will pick through the whole stack if needed to get a clean board. Been screwed just like Will described previously.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 3 ай бұрын
You can demand that they actually work out the exact volume of the wood or board foot. Easy to calculate and if you’re buying expensive high quality lumber you should calculate your own volume
@pony-boy3822
@pony-boy3822 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown, good info!
@Joe-mz6dc
@Joe-mz6dc 3 ай бұрын
His videos are unbelievable. I've learned so much from his videos it's ridiculous.
@danrao3707
@danrao3707 3 ай бұрын
Sucks for the hobby builder. It’s cheaper to just buy a built body which is not what I want. So my return on investment is non existing. Looking forward to your website. And more videos. New sub.
@marcinborkowicz2557
@marcinborkowicz2557 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes I really miss the old Gelvins's rants about people believing in modern mythologies (e.g. tonewood). It was pretty fun.
@fuzzymuppet1990
@fuzzymuppet1990 3 ай бұрын
oh sh*t , he's got the board out!
@vaiisgod8
@vaiisgod8 3 ай бұрын
Gotta knock on it and listen to the tone lol, and the aaa with a sustained knock, Paul will smile and see dollars
@williambaker1136
@williambaker1136 3 ай бұрын
If you have land with trees, the tree guys will certainly try to screw you as well if you are having some harvested. Find a tree broker to calculate your board feet and figure the current rates for each species. That way you don't get totally screwed and the broker will certainly get his or her cut, otherwise you will get hosed.
@daveb427
@daveb427 3 ай бұрын
Yep. Some are honest. Some are scammers. And some just aren't the brightest bulbs in the room. I've probably been over charged. I've also had them joint 2 sides for me, and screw it up. Sometimes ya just gotta do things yourself.
@DoubleAAmazin
@DoubleAAmazin 3 ай бұрын
I thought tonewood was made up...and most of it is....but I tried the same pickups on an alder body and a basswood body and the basswood def sounded thinner. Not by much, but it was noticeable. Not that big a deal tho.
@yonitznkc
@yonitznkc 3 ай бұрын
Oo! Oo! 💕 I’ve been curious about using redwood, Will. I suppose you’ll offer ‘tops/caps’ on more pricey woods?
@WillsEasyGuitar
@WillsEasyGuitar 3 ай бұрын
redwood is a really soft wood. softer than pine sometimes. I would avoid it.
@stevensobba1785
@stevensobba1785 3 ай бұрын
😮Brutal!😂😉,👊🏻thanks for information 👏🏻
@TheSdrake1967
@TheSdrake1967 3 ай бұрын
Wait, dont you divide by `144?
@user-no1cares
@user-no1cares 3 ай бұрын
Try building wooden boats. 🤣
@TxStang
@TxStang 3 ай бұрын
lol makes me think of 1 company that sells maple tops and neck blanks starts with Kimb____ Hard______ lol 1A 2A 3A and so on
@RisingTideSoundWorks
@RisingTideSoundWorks 3 ай бұрын
Derek is pretty consistent with that. I believe the grading system is based on flames or quilt compressions per inch or something like that. Then you get guys like Jeff Kiesel oh man that's a 7A grade lol on every piece.
@TxStang
@TxStang 3 ай бұрын
@@RisingTideSoundWorks still it's a made up grading used to over inflate prices .
@brooklynsoundgarage
@brooklynsoundgarage 3 ай бұрын
I feel like I’ve seen this video before
@southernfriedawesomeness9464
@southernfriedawesomeness9464 3 ай бұрын
Instrument grade!!!😅😅😅
@sempercompellis
@sempercompellis 3 ай бұрын
why do you have such a hard time understanding that Instrument Grade simply means flame degree and has VALUE to people...
@bronzesnake7004
@bronzesnake7004 3 ай бұрын
Hey, it's unkie Will!!! Jack ~'()'~
@RemiBusseuil
@RemiBusseuil 3 ай бұрын
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