Win11 Auto HDR calibration tutorial. CRU and HDR+WCG Image Viewer. Great HDR results on LG C2 OLED!

@GamingTech
Download the CRU app www.techspot.com/downloads/73...
Change HDR metadata to 127 (LG C1, CX OLED or any display with an 800nits max Peak brightness)
Turn on HDR and auto HDR from Windows 11 and open Auto HDR supported games.
The calibration will get better on Sep 20 with a windows update and the release of the HGIG calibration app on the Microsoft store.
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[@brunogm]

Nice!

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

Thanks for the Video. Looks like I need to upgrade to Win11 (again) and do some testing. 😁

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

The auto HDR is working amazing now, it wasn't working well for me before, I don't know what happened, maybe an update. Spiderman looks awesome with Auto HDR, the colors, peak brightness, midtones, there's no black level raised either, I got that wrong at the beginning because I thought I would be able to adjust the black level using the screenshot and It is 2 clicks lower on the HDR WCG app for some reason.

[@TheEdmaster87]

Yup you need to do this and test. Try with spiderman or any other game that has its own hdr on/off slider and adjustments for hdr. You need to test built in hdr settings vs W11 auto hdr. When you turn off hdr for example in spiderman on pc then auto hdr kicks in after you run the game second time. Its much brighter then with hdr on in game. Why? I hope you can find out! Because I swear it looks much brighter and better. Of course with CRU settings set like this guy did depending on what panel you have.

[@JDSPonYT]

It's cool you've gotten to this by yourself but I was the source for how GamingTech for this analysis method. I'll have updated videos on the HDR Calibration software that is new (spoiler its useless) and how best to setup autoHDR, which is already on my channel

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Cool, I will subscribe to your channel and support you. I didn't know. I updated the new HDR calibration already, you can check it out

[@JDSPonYT]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah I've already watched, assuming that the calibration tool only actually works with the 22H2 update (which I don't have) I can't really comment on it , but under 21H2 the tool is more than useless, it doesn't change the display EDID information so games will still read the incorrect brightness values, ICC aware software breaks when using it and it doesn't fix the incorrect gamma windows uses when converting SDR to HDR (hence the midtones and shadows of autoHDR is wrong)

[@TRONiX404]

This helped but I had the opposite problem with a 2000nit lcd, setting max lum to 800nit in CRU and in game looks great.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

What happens if you set it to 2000, do the midtones get overly bright? I know for sure that the black level doesn't change by increasing it.

[@TRONiX404]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yeah mid tones and saturation is washed, default = out,kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5Tbl6lmYtaGg7c 1500nit max game lum

[@TRONiX404]

800nit in game, CRU is 128 i have another uploading 127 but it is KZbin 8bit HDR soo it will look better then this on a 10 bit display.

[@robertking9942]

As an added benefit of using the Xbox Game Bar, you get an intensity slider to adjust the strength of Auto HDR on a game-by-game basis on any Windows games, even while you play!

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

For some reason the intensity slider is grayed out for me, do you know the solution?

[@robertking9942]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i dont know sorry not using hdr sadly cant get it not to wash out

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

@@tonhuytranThanks for sharing, I will try those

[@nd4spdvn]

Once you do the system level calibration with CRU utility there is no need for this slider in my opinion. It will only reduce the peak output which is now corelated corectly to the TV's capabilities.

[@albertomateos1114]

Hello la.profundida de color es 55 o 50 cuando esta en nativo?help...

[@robertking9942]

i have windows it. its like if the gammer is super high thats what wash's shit out if switch on hdr

[@princehorus666]

hi bro,thanks for your real good work about oled tv,please i ve a question... do you think lg tv C1 is better than any monitor or do you think not. because on PS5,the quality is insane but i ve a lot of slowmotion when player drops strikes. may be is the ps5 doesn't support the frames or maybe it's the 4K ,it's too big to send all the information since ps5 to lg c1. i've gigabit internet 2ms latency. Idon't understand,thanks for your comment

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Try for example Warzone 2 and use 120Hz/fps mode with OLED Motion Pro High, that's going to look like 312fps

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

On a PC that can deliver 120fps for most games you can get that experience, on the PS5 try WZ2 and you will see

[@Deltax5]

OK cool. Going to try this. When i get time. Hope graphic drivers start getting hdr in there. Seems to be activated by windows. Glad windows got to it. Well seems they got it first. Windows didn't really have hdr for a bit. I was thinking maybe it was for sports, shows and movies. Like tv use.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It's unbelievable how win11 auto HDR is looking now and how it is so much better than the HDR from games, like Spiderman.

[@Deltax5]

I just hope the low iput delay is correct. I bought this bc of the extra hours they made me work bc of the pedemic.They said best tv, IDK about that, hdr raytracing games look amazing thou. I turned off auto dim from the you tube video i found in the survice menu. it got annoying wile reading articales on the net, it would dim. Gaming i didn't care. Man all my new stuff does stuff for burn in anyways. I wouldn't use 50 warm for pc use. i notice the whites getting warm as well, i don't want to see orangey whites. I put it a bit lower for pc use. The other consoles the same. Not that color imfomaty wile looking at a angle, why. they said it's to see what panel you have. Wile using ms paint i notice it, baguege white. Funny how the web browser for lg smart feature is on a dark theme. to hide that. Meh.

[@rafaelafonso819]

The only issue I've so far not been able to completely solve on either windows 10 or windows 11 is the raised blacks you get whenever you turn windows HDR. I've done some tests using black level calibrations on some websites like lagon and the black levels on near blacks are severely raised giving a slightly washed out feeling to the image. I can mess with the gamma and brigthness levels on nvidia control panel to mitigate it but that's still far from idea and I wish I'd knew what exactly is going wrong with windows HDR black levels (they are raised even when playing HDR games or HDR movies)

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I don't know what happened to my Win11 Auto HDR, I tried before and it was terrible, I'm trying to figure out how it got fixed and I will share that. Now it's working amazing. On the upcoming videos I'm going to be sharing a link to screenshots on HDR with the exact same quality that I see so everyone can look at my results

[@rafaelafonso819]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I've just seen it. It've done the CRU trick myself thanks to you talking about it a few months earlier for the first time and it did help with the bright highlits the raised blacks are a different issue, though. I've read somewhere some nvidia drivers had a hotfix to hdr raised blacks but it *shouldn't* be this reason since it's an old driver and mine are update. Thinking about doing a clean driver reinstall and check it though. And it's not about the HDR settings. Even the SDR content gets raised blacks when you turn on HDR on windows I've noticed you do the brightness trick on the C1 to lower black levels and I tried that as well but it's not perfect. The raised blacks affect the overall gamma and lowering the TV britghness ends up dimming the overall picture including highlights. Best I could do was to lower brightness on NVidia control panel and increase contrast to compensat for the lowered highlights but since I'm eyeballing it results aren't perfect. Besides, It's been like this on 3 different computers I checked and with different TVs from another friend so it's probably a widespread windows issue and either Microsoft or Nvidia have some fixing to do

[@iitsFT]

Hey man did you try the Microsofts recent release of the Hdr calibration app. You can find it on windows store.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I forgot! Thanks for remembering me! Look at the first comment on this video I made, I gave the news and I forgot! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmOcpo14a9t-oac

[@iitsFT]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah I just tried it and the good thing you can crate different profiles and name them. On peak brightness menu is still says 1499 nit peal brightness but without using cru the game trying to output close to 800 nits

[@OmarNaqvi]

Hello! Why set the max luminance and the max frame-average to the same number? Is one peak brightness and one paper white?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

No, the other is full frame max brightness. The TV has ABL and it is set to work with that

[@shai-lin7836]

Hey there how do i get the best hdr for windows 10, what applications could i use?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Unfortunately win10 assigned the same 1500nits profile and I tried to change it with the CRU app but it didn't work

[@X7007]

you can use Windows HDR CALIBRATION in windows 11 for this now

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That's right, I have videos about it

[@captain3873]

Do we still have to use the cru app to change the display information value from 1499 to 800 nits or will the new calibration app work because for me it still says 1499 nits after making a profile.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It's an issue now that every time I restart the PC I have to do the calibration again. The CRU is no longer necessary having the HDR calibration app but I have to see if after restarting it will still retain the changes. I would recommend you to do the Calibration then open again the Display settings and it should say 780

[@chanjacky8096]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 bro.. do we still have to set hdr calibration app every single time when we restart windows 11 ? i'm thinking to upgrade windows 11 from windows 10 just for gta5 auto hdr.. but if we still have to set hdr calibration app every single time after rebooting. not gonna upgrade to 11 yet...

[@CaptTragedy]

Is this necessary now if you use the HDR Calibration tool in the windows store to set an HDR profile for your monitor?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It's no longer necessary. Check out this more recent summary kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKuXmJ6pm9Jmfqs

[@CaptTragedy]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thank you!

[@robertking9942]

mine dos not show peak brigthness at the display information is there a other way to check?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

You are probably on Windows 10, this only works on 11

[@ppn7]

We have to do the CRU settings no matter if we use autoHDR or HDR10 built in game right ?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

For native HDR games setting up the max Peak brightness on Windows 11 is not going to have any impact because there is no HDR game on PC that uses system level calibration because there is no system level calibration on windows yet, so HDR games will completely ignore that. For Auto HDR from Windows 11 it will only matter if you can't get the Adjust intensity slider to work (it wasn't working for me when I made that video), if it works just set it up from 70-75

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpOWd4yhrat2hKc

[@mohombi9466]

when I change hdr static metadata values my max peak brightness nits are not changing in display details

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That's because the source isn't sending the metadata to the TV

[@mohombi9466]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i have an oled pg27aqdm with the latest firmware installed. I don’t know why it would be doing this?

[@leorodrigues7893]

I already disabled the RGB and I already changed it to full but it doesn't solve it and my video card is 1660super it doesn't have this dlss function

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I will do a walkthrough of all my PC settings. For now I would recommend you to set on the Nvidia control panel RGB Full and use Nvidia Image Scaling to get higher FPS

[@leorodrigues7893]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I already did that but the color banding continues

[@TheAbdID]

Do you still recommend this or is this not necessary anymore if windows 11 HDR calibration app is being used? Unfortunately changing the value in cru didn't change the nits under HDR display properties. It's still at 4000 nits (qn90b)

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

This is no longer necessary having the HDR calibration app l, just change it to 0 780 780 for HGIG and Fine Tune Dark Areas-16 for all Auto HDR supported games

[@TheAbdID]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i see. Thanks bro. Btw what do ypu think of nvidea reflex filters combined with settings of the TV. Could be useful for fine tuning right ? Maybe a topic for a future video ;)

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Yes, I've used them. Watch my Plague Tale HDR video where I use it

[@mrflaquir4]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 If the monitor doesnt support HGIG is this mettod still viable but using windows calibration app instead of CRU? If I set the max brightness in the windows calibration app of 650 (which is known peak brightness of my 27gr95qe) I get an estimated MaxCll of 680 but if I set the max brightness of 640 I get a MaxCll of 648.

[@oiltycoonbillionaire]

yo my monitor said 391 nits in the windows display settings info now its saying 4,000 and idk why i changed the CRU but reverted it and its still saying 4,000 anyone know why?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

This is no longer necessary, we now have the HDR CALIBRATION app on Win11 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXWsn6lofbiCb9k

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Try reset, then restart restart64 with the CRU app

[@ppn7]

I installed HDR+WCG on windows 10. I took a screenshot on my ps4 slim with HDR ON on TLOU 2 but when I opened the screenshot in hdr+wcg the maxcll gives me N/A instead of the real value. I tried to take a screenshot on windows 10 directly on the hdr settings and ire fails to maxcll:N/A. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong ?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

You are not the only one that tells me that, it looks like it only works on win11 because win10 doesn't care about HDR metadata, that's why the CRU app can't change the default 1499 nits profile that windows assign to the TV

[@ridaidar7143]

same on win 11

[@iSirTaki]

hey, my Win11 shortcut for switching HDR on/off isn't working anymore. it is normally WIN + ALT +B. Someone has a clue?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I had issues with that before and I couldn't fix it, it got fixed by itself

[@iSirTaki]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yes, i think i will just wait for it get fixed by itsself. thanks for reply

[@dysnXO]

on my LG C2 42 it says Peak lum 10.000 nits lmao. but the strange thing is, when i watch a HDR video on youtube for example, some scenes where the sun appears, the brightness looks and feels like drop from 800-1000 nits down to 100-300nits... and i know it should not drop cus when i do that in warzone lets say and i look at the sun, the WCG app shows 1000nits and it looks bright to my eyes. So there is definitely something wrong with youtube HDR.. btw im on Win11 with HDR enabled. Could you please do more videos about movie/video watching with HDR enabled both on TV and Windows and get the Highest peak brighness on all scenes and best image. i really like your videos but im more of a movies guy on this oled tv rather than gamer. Please if you find a solution and experience the same issue as me, let me know. Here is screenshot of warzone looking at the sun at 1000nits prnt.sc/FepRRJkb_ikG And if you want to see the HDR scene im having problem with when the sun appears, here is the link with timestamp : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZC9q3t7hNarh6s At fullscreen as i said the brighness feels very dim but when go out of fullscreen and start shrinking the whole video smaller on chrome, the sun becomes brighter and brighter.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Chrome doesn't support HDR as far as I know, try Microsoft Edge.

[@leorodrigues7893]

want to take a look with remote access on my pc for you to check the settings

[@HablaconCamilo]

Como configurar o sincronizar la aplicación con la tv ??

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

La app no le HACE nada a la TV, solamente a Windows. Descarga CRU, cambia HDR Metadata 127, Auto HDR en Windows 11, eso es Todo.

[@HablaconCamilo]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 no entiendo como conectar la pc a la tv 🤯

[@leorodrigues7893]

smooth high can solve it but I don't know how to do something that can soften it because I've done everything and still the extreme problem still remains, and if you manage to solve it any way you can I'll pay you I can't stand playing with quality anymore horrible

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

What do you mean by doing something that can soften it?

[@leorodrigues7893]

if you know any way to solve this color banding problem. gaming pc with monitor aoc 144hz

[@TRONiX404]

@@leorodrigues7893 did u enable Full RGB not limited or YCbCr444 that causes some banding for me. Sharpening? Ya dlss sharpening is brutal disable that lol

[@djase45]

Fot the C1 in CRU, is it 127 or 128 ?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It's 128 for real HDR10 games and 127 for auto HDR

[@cars4color]

f1 on my keyboard is volume. so that dont work.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Press win+alt+print screen

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

The game bar will take the screenshot with that

[@cars4color]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i tried that no photos show up anywhere

[@AG_Da_Gamer]

How many nits to set lg c2 42?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Same 780

[@AG_Da_Gamer]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ok cool thanks man just got it for use with pc and ps5. Still trying to get settings right on pc hdr seems off... I have a 6900xt and 5800x 3d pc

[@AG_Da_Gamer]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I need my c2 42 set to your warzone 2 settings. On my pc I can do 4k 120 native but the blacks look to dark and throws off picture

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Make sure you are in a dark room, wz2 HDR is fantastic. Also consider turning off TPC and GSR on the service menu if you want no dimming for static HUD or long dark scenes

[@shanroxalot5354]

Better then HLG?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Un supported games yes, because the colors look more accurate to me

[@robertking9942]

you mean 127?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Yes

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Read the description for details

[@xFaZebRuTaLx]

HDR is such crap and a headache on PC compared to consoles.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It is a mess, but at this point, we have it all figured out kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKuXmJ6pm9Jmfqs

[@xFaZebRuTaLx]

My SDR looks way better in HDR especially during desktop use, my windows are actual black dark mode rather than grey in HDR.@@plasmatvforgaming9648