Disassembly and assembly of a Winchester Model 12 pump action shotgun with a full choke barrel. A classic 12 gauge that is a ton of fun for trap shooting. Has a Mossy Oak Buttstock Shotgun Shell Holder.
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@SpookyN00b Жыл бұрын
I just inherited one of these from my grandfather. Man what a pain it was to disassemble. No wonder he never cleaned it. Thank god for your video.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah it's kind of a pain. Glad the video helped.
@JakesFable Жыл бұрын
I literally inherited mine from my grandfather as well how crazy.
@Superplums Жыл бұрын
I got mine from my Dad and I don't think he ever did more than a wipedown and oil and a boresnake. It works great.
@CandidSpade111 ай бұрын
I just got one from my grandfather too haha been sitting for years
@johnthonig16929 ай бұрын
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors Good job Do you use any lube or gun oil? Solvent for cleaner?
@gloryannpenington18492 жыл бұрын
Just acquired a 1914 Winchester 1912 20 ga ~ a 70th Bday present to myself:)! Thank you so much for this education. It had been a long time since it'd been cleaned and I'm happy to be a steward of such a beautiful piece.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
That’s an awesome present, enjoy it! Glad the video helped. These are such great guns.
@jacobgaul50432 жыл бұрын
My grandpa passed in Februaru and his 1931 Winchester Model 12 found its way to me. Very helpful, thank you.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about his passing, but good to hear the Model 12 found a good home. Glad the video helped.
@180boxer2 ай бұрын
@@UnprofessionalOutdoorsI have also Winchester model 12 made in 1931 and it's very special this gun for me and I will keep it forever because 1931 was also the birth year of my grandpa who is no longer with us.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 ай бұрын
@@180boxer it’s cool to see how many people have this gun as a family heirloom
@codymanke801610 ай бұрын
Your first sentence was correct, it was a pain in the ass to get back together but I figured it out from you so thank you. I just inherited it from my grandpa and knew he didn’t clean it in a while.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors10 ай бұрын
Glad the video helped!
@myfavoritemartian14 ай бұрын
I have two of them that were my Grandfather's. One is a 16Ga made in 1913 with a 5 digit serial number and a 12Ga made in 1921. Both have been used a lot, but are in good condition. The model 12 has an adjustment for when the barrel/mag tube unit gets loose in the receiver. They are easy to tighten up.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors4 ай бұрын
That’s cool to hear. Such great guns and I hear from a lot of people that inherited them and they still run great.
@stevenrichards36992 жыл бұрын
Thanks . I just broke down my Model 12, which hasn't had a deep clean in about 20 years , when I had it re-blued. Now it's all cleaned and oiled !
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Nice, glad it helped!
@blazinhot68733 жыл бұрын
I used this guide to disassemble and clean a Savage Model 28. It helped a lot. Thanks for posting!
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear. Glad it helped, but didn’t realize Savage Model 28 were so close. Good to know.
@lfalecorel3 күн бұрын
fixed my shotgun thanks to this video!
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 күн бұрын
@@lfalecorel glad it helped!
@aaroncfriedman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Just used your video to strip one that had its bolt stuck to the rear. Full of dirt!! Shook out the dirt and reassembled with the bolt in the front like you said, and viola, it works.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Glad this helped.
@carsonphibbs36513 жыл бұрын
Great video! Helped me get my 1950 16 gauge model 12 apart and back together!
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Awesome glad it helped! These are great shotguns.
@carsonphibbs36513 жыл бұрын
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors the old saying is true for these. "They just don't make em like they used to"
@seanoconnell6735 Жыл бұрын
The wonders of KZbin. My father passed away earlier this year and I have his old 1914 Model 12 that he inherited from his dad. Interesting is that my grandfather was born in 1907, so I presume the gun was given to him by my great grandfather. I shot this gun once about 35 years ago and I am excited to have it now in my possession. My father was not a hunter or gun sportsman/enthusiast and when he got the gun back in the 1980s, he had no instructions (KZbin) to be able to understand how to break it down to inspect and clean it. Because he never shot it, it has sat for many years. Its action is smooth and all parts are clean with no rust and everything you showed seem to move effortlessly, so I think I am fortunate. I am going to break it down this weekend and give it a good clean and oil......although it looks to be in pristine condition. I am excited about making sure it is clean so I can get it out to soon at our local sporting clays park to have some fun.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
That’s great you have a fun with so much family history. These are great shotguns that can take a beating. I’m sure after a good cleaning it’ll be fun at the range. Hope the video helped since they can be tricky getting back together.
@ndt270 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sean. I have a 1914 M12, 12 ga 30" full in almost perfect condition. It's nice enough that I don't hunt with it. I also have a '47 M12 12 ga that I've hunted with for over 50 years that my Dad gave me. My '47 has a new stock, new barrel, and new magazine tube because I've used it so much, they just wore out. It fits me perfectly, so I got a '53 and fit it so it has the same dimensions as the '47. When I shoulder them with my eyes closed, I can't tell them apart so I have the perfect backup gun. I have no desire to hunt with any other shotgun. Enjoy that '14!
@weeelerrr9200 Жыл бұрын
I found it easier to put the barrel on first then add in the trigger assembly. I couldn't get the pump to grab the bolt assembly until I did it this way. Had to guide it with my finger then put in the trigger and now it works fine. Thanks for the video.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'll try that next time I clean it. Thanks for the advice.
@Edgy012 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your effort to provide this instruction video on the model 12, a tremendous shotgun! My Model 12 was built in 1942, and was probably acquired by my father in the early 1950s I would guess. Since he died in 1969 I have used it occasionally but NEVER field stripped it out of simple fear of screwing things up! Obviously, it hasn’t been cleaned since the late 1950s. Now, I feel much better about it’s inner workings. One tip. A little better lighting when filming, especially when you are looking inside the breech area. It would remove a little more doubt as to how things should look. A+ for you!
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Glad the video helped. It’s cool to see how many people have this gun as a family heirloom. Totally hear you on the video feedback. This was one of my first videos.
@caseysimpson1806 Жыл бұрын
Best Model 12 instruction on KZbin.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors10 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped.
@MrCoachBrooksАй бұрын
Such a nice job on this video Within 15 seconds you start doing what the video says you're going to do The video has good lighting - no nonsense instructions and important details/things to look for Thorough, yet less than 12 minutes long - I liked, I subscribed and I tip my cap to you sir
@UnprofessionalOutdoorsАй бұрын
Thanks for the sub and glad it helped!
@rylancollins8858 Жыл бұрын
thank you so so much, this really helped me Couse i could not find a freaking video on how to disassembly my shotgun. so helpfull
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@WhuppopotamusYT3 жыл бұрын
Just got a ‘27 m12 thank you, very informative
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad it helped.
@pinecone50583 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, have my first m12 on layaway, thanks for your time
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and enjoy your M12 when you get it. They’re great guns.
@aaaalabama3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very helpful.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped you out.
@daviddeupree7707 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man I really appreciate it. Anyway all the best from Northern California
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@SavageMcBeastdog3 жыл бұрын
Well lit and well described. Please do a full teardown video.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Any particular areas you’re looking for a full breakdown on?
@thomasmiller3162 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Lost my dad a few years ago so, I had nobody to ask.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but happy to hear the video helped.
@kevinnewton54443 жыл бұрын
Looks like you were shooting at Richmond Rod and Gun Club at the start of the video...I'm a member there... And I think you did a fine job on the video...
@UnprofessionalOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, love that place. And thanks!
@R3TR0--932 жыл бұрын
I own one a model 12, and it has the screw knob at the top which you unscrew to remove the barrel. I love this shotgun, yeah it's a pain to take a part and put back together, but that means it was a well made firearm, back when they use to make all metal and wood firearms with steel parts.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a great really well made gun.
@niklasschwalb5445 Жыл бұрын
Look I watched this video for the gun. But dude the mythosaur tattoo is why I liked the video. 3 days til Star Wars day.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Haha that's awesome. Always love the SW day announcements.
@ccopperpot5688 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@blunts4brekfast8 ай бұрын
liked and subbed. I don't even own that shotgun, but this was a great video, and maybe someday I will.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors8 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked the video.
@warrenturnbull34362 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.. I just acquired from my uncle, my great grandpas model 12 and broke it down today and fully cleaned it.. but while soaking the trigger group something went wrong and now the safety switch seems “seized” I can’t push the button back and forth to turn it on or off.. not too sure what’s happening.. any ideas? Might have to break the trigger group down itself and clean inside there possibly??
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and glad you liked the video. Is the safety seized both with the gun assembled and with the trigger group out? Just checking if it’s catching on anything. Maybe try soaking again to see if that dislodges what’s blocking it. If not you may have to break the trigger group down, which I’ve never done. Good luck and hope you get it sorted out.
@donaldschmitt4677 Жыл бұрын
Easy to disassemble n easy to clean. Own 2 of em. Shoot like fuck!!! Model 12.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
It's easier now that I've broken it down more and more.
@russianraccoon8507 Жыл бұрын
I just got one and after firing and pulling the slide back the shells don’t eject. Is there a way to fix that? The gun is fairly dirty the previous owner must have not cleaned it but I don’t know if that would affect the ejection of the shells.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors10 ай бұрын
I would break it down and give it a good cleaning. Hopefully that fixes the problem.
@canuckguns Жыл бұрын
Hey there ! I got this Winchester model 12, it’s a fixed full choke.. and I have some target slugs, would those run thru? Or is that a bad idea
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Honestly I would not try it. Full chokes are really just meant for bird shot, so I wouldn't risk damaging the barrel with slugs or buckshot.
@leomckay81702 жыл бұрын
Very informative and detailed
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful.
@MrClovvnz2 жыл бұрын
Man I can’t find a guide on how to disassemble a model 25. It looks damn near identical to this but it doesn’t come apart the same. I just want to remove the plug lol
@paernoser871 Жыл бұрын
I'm having some issues trying to get the pin on the tip of the mag tube to turn into locking position for the assembly. I dint want to beat it too hard because I don't want to break it and I can't just leave it because anytime you go to pump it the gun will disassemble itself, haha. Any advice?
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Have you tried breaking down the mag tube to clean it? Might be something inside the tube blocking the pin.
@tommygun60289 ай бұрын
Great Video!!! What year was it made ? I have almost same one , but in 20 G . My is from 1912....Cheers
@UnprofessionalOutdoors9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm not sure what year it was made, since I cannot find a year stamped on the gun. Is there a way to tell based on the serial number?
@austincole65212 жыл бұрын
Did that resolve the issue of the shells being kicked out while loading the underside ?
@robcampbell3235 Жыл бұрын
All win 12s will drop all shells in the tube if you push the feed ramp up...a quick unload ”feature” haha!
@tammybemtley1448 Жыл бұрын
How do you get a 12 gauge pump unjammed without ruining the gun mine is an older Winchester pump action
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
How exactly is it jammed?
@davidharris90772 жыл бұрын
I bought a model 12 ( 1961) in great shape. I have only owned a few pump action shotguns so not sure if this is normal, but if I don't keep foward pressure on the fore stock when I fire, I can't cycle the action after I shoot. I have looked at several KZbin videos and don't have an answer. Is this normal for a Model 12?
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
No that doesn’t sound normal for a model 12, mine doesn’t do that. Not really sure what would be causing that. Have you tried breaking it down and cleaning it?
@davidharris90772 жыл бұрын
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors It's clean as a whistle. There are no worn parts or burrs visable, as this was from an estate sale and obviouly a safe queen. I have no idea what could cause this, that's why I thought it might be part of the design due to the slam fire feature. My 870, Mossberg 500 and Winchester 1300 don't have that feature and I shoot them with rearward pressure on the fore stock with no problems. Thanks.
@dalanwanbdiska65422 жыл бұрын
You need to apply forward pressure to the pump when firing to unlock it. Inertia lock system for slam fire feature. Nothing wrong. Its not like a regular 870 . You cant rack it like a 870 either with one hand because inertia lock needs two hands to unlock it. I had a Winchester 97 and i loved it for that that reason ,had to push the pump forward.
@robcampbell3235 Жыл бұрын
Yep on mine some forward pressure needed. Not much but if youre used to one without it itll take some getting used to.
@angrynathan13622 жыл бұрын
My mag tube is stuck bad. It’ll move out of alignment. It went out about a quarter inch, but now won’t slide down back. I put in some gun oil hoping that loosens it up…
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Any luck with this? I broke my mag tube down once and cleaned the inside which helped get things moving.
@moparclan2 жыл бұрын
Have a model 1912 made in 1918, problem is when taking the barrel off the bolt will fall to the rear and I have to take the trigger assembly off to put the bolt back into position. Have three model 12's and this is the only one that will do that? Possible cure? Thanks
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Is the bolt release worn down or broken? It might be damaged which could cause the bolt to slide back when the barrel isn’t holding it in place.
@moparclan2 жыл бұрын
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors Replaced with a bolt from another model 12 and cured the problem, have a few more breech retaining levers on order. Just in case. Thanks for the reply.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
@@moparclan good to hear you got it sorted out.
@MS-ek6up5 ай бұрын
that trap range looks amazing. where is that??
@UnprofessionalOutdoors5 ай бұрын
It's the Richmond Rod and Gun club in Richmond, CA. Great range.
@anthonyreddy2834 Жыл бұрын
Better close ups on parts would be more helpful but it is what is.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah this was one of my first vids. Learned a lot since then.
@oreopuppydawg1564 Жыл бұрын
They made a 31 inch barrel? I thought 30 and 32
@dougfriendt89062 ай бұрын
No one ever says to make sure the breach is cocked and locked in place before starting disassembly. If not, you will not be able to reassemble properly. Trust me, I almost had to send it to gunsmith when the breach block slide back while I was reassembling it.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Yeah good call out. I thought you couldn’t even disassemble if it wasn’t in that position. I’ll have to go back and check.
@realifedodgerrebuilds82102 жыл бұрын
My Trigger assembly doesn’t slide in like it should, I literally have to jam it in for it to sit properly. Gun still works but bugs me I have to cram in my trigger assembly any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue?
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Is the trigger assembly or where it’s sliding into the gun dirty, pocked, or bent at all? When I first got mine it was pretty dirty. I broke everything down and cleaned it pretty thoroughly. I used a dental scraper to dig out some of the stubborn buildup and used super fine steel wool soaked in honing fluid to polish some of the more pocked areas. Have to be careful to not take off any metal, but doing that got might to assemble pretty smoothly, because it did not at first.
@Agorizer Жыл бұрын
I found that mine goes together much easier if it is "hammer down", or in fired position. Very difficult if cocked. Seems counter intuitive, but works.
@kyleyoung2107 Жыл бұрын
Wpuld you mind redoing this video with the better lighting equipment you have now ?
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
It's on my to do list.
@tonymuschara7756 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, but segments of the video that focused on the inside of the receiver was too dark to see - needed light above.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah this was a pretty early video of mine. Hopefully it helped
@joetruth5924 Жыл бұрын
Where are you shooting trap over water? My state would be fining you for putting lead in the water.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
They only allow steel shot.
@Systemaman Жыл бұрын
You shoot steel through a full choke?
@joetruth5924 Жыл бұрын
Only shoot steel out of a modified choke.
@deanrignel13182 жыл бұрын
Mine doesn’t unscrew any tips on what do do?
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
What part doesn’t unscrew? The barrel from the receiver? Make sure the guide rod attached to the forend is clear of the receiver. If that’s clear maybe let some WD40 soak where the receiver meets the barrel.
@stevenbello2001 Жыл бұрын
Nice video…better lighting would have helped see what’s going on inside the gun
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks and agree. That was one of my earlier videos, so I hadn't figured out good lighting or audio yet.
@stewartsmith68132 жыл бұрын
You are skipping over exactly what I needed to know. The assemble of the magazine tube and wood forearm.
@alexandercastillo71022 жыл бұрын
Tengo una que era de mi visabuelo pero modelo 16
@UnprofessionalOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Nice! These are great guns
@skigdividerx49912 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how many people there are that don't know how to store guns in a safe. Never put a wood stocked gun in butt down!! Always bore down!
@johnthonig16929 ай бұрын
Why?
@skigdividerx49919 ай бұрын
@@johnthonig1692 Several reasons. First if it has a recoil pad it smashes it and deforms it. Most people over oil the receiver and trigger housing parts. The oil runs into the grip and weakens and blackens the wood and then it cracks. How many old guns have you seen like that? Storing guns like .22’s barrel up let’s bugs and spiders crawl down the bore and lay eggs or die. Then you grab it and put a high velocity bullet down it without checking the bore and wa’la a bulged barrel.
@johnthonig16929 ай бұрын
@@skigdividerx4991 🤔👍
@patmooney790111 ай бұрын
Good vid except for the unloading at home
@tblackwell49 Жыл бұрын
Lighting is too poor to see important steps installing components in receiver.
@UnprofessionalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Might redo this video now that I have a better setup.