[WINCHESTER VS FEDERAL]

I said in my last video that WINCHESTER and FEDERAL were the same.
They cost the same, have the same shot size everything on the box says the same things but are they the same?
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[@offworlder1]

I love Federal, American Eagle(federal brand), Magtech, and PMC ammo brands.

[@MC-uj4co]

The federal is all around Supreme to Winchester

[@migratorygame7400]

I still like winchester! I use em for dove and duck hunting.

[@robtans5042]

Federal will always do better on patterns for card shooting at a turkey shoot

[@andylazcano7186]

I have to say your improvisation for targets is incredible very good efficiency and time span on the video does not put people to sleep like most videos

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@308guy8]

I've always had good luck with federal shells

[@Richardpipi]

thanks for doin it with the mod choke.. this is great, as someone that likes to overthink stuff.. its one less thing i gotta over think lol

[@migratorygame7400]

Your welcome! Lol I do the same thing.

[@Activeprotectiongroup]

Great video, I’m new to the world of shotguns so all this is educational for me.

[@talonw.7691]

Why no more subscribers this dudes better than Kentucky ballistics lol

[@codyw3829]

Great video, thanks for doing the thorough walk through. I haven't really developed a preference one way or the other. Often times I don't have many choices as the shelves are a little bare so I've been taking what I can get. Walmart only had Federals in 8 shot when I went the other day so that's what I'll be shooting opening day here in Georgia.

[@migratorygame7400]

I mostly shoot Winchester but I'll shoot anything. I like 8 shot for doves.. I hope you get your limit opening day!

[@Mr.J281]

You deserve a subscribe for all of that counting.

[@Warrior-X]

Same here

[@TimberHillRedboneDogs]

Wow! Great video! I cant believe you just counted all those BBs.😂you had alot of patience.. Im luck to hit a stationary object let alone a flying 🐦!!

[@migratorygame7400]

Lol thank you! My hand started to cramp up. Me too!

[@TommyboyGTP]

Always wondered why I had better hit counts at the skeet range with the Federal Top Guns over the Winchester Super Targets. Makes sense now.

[@mikeumphrey-waytogokennels2526]

Awesome test buddy! I'm anxious about Tomorrow morning! Good luck and can't wait to see how ya do

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you! Me too although I'll probably wait until this weekend to go out. Good luck in the morning!

[@mikeumphrey-waytogokennels2526]

@@migratorygame7400 thanks buddy! I'm going to try and go live while hunting tomorrow morning, that way everyone can see me miss! Lol

[@migratorygame7400]

Lol. I'll try to catch some of the action from work.

[@tubbyguyoutdoors]

Excellent comparison bud ! I’ll still run Winchester , never been a fan of federal I’ve had and seen to many misfires with federal ammo . Thanks for sharing bud

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you! I always use Winchester as well even for duck hunting. I'm gonna hunt this weekend with the federal shells, we'll see how it goes.

[@tubbyguyoutdoors]

Migratory Game Good luck brother !

[@spencerschenk9519]

Winchesters are junk

[@sergeyishenin673]

I’m switching to federal, thanks man!

[@bisakov]

Not the most scientific testing, but real life. Thanks for the time you spent doing this... 👍

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you! I enjoyed making this one.

[@BuckeyeHuntingAndFishing]

I use both but it seems one works better than the other sometimes. I have never paid attention to which is which. Great comparison.

[@migratorygame7400]

I usually use winchester but I've used both in the past I didnt think there was much difference between the two. Thank you!

[@Dominic.Minischetti]

Awesome testing brother! For me it’s all about the firearm and ammo combo. What shoots well in a Beretta may not shoot as well in a Remington. Each shotgun/choke patterns different.

[@migratorygame7400]

Absolutely!

[@halfdollar86]

This is true. I just tried this exact same test and the Winchesters shot better for me. I shot Top Gun 1-1/8 - 8 shot at 1200 and the exact same load with the Winchester Super Targets. Then I even tried 1 oz of 7.5 shot and was really shocked when it even patterned better. I would of bet money that the federals would of done better. 🤷‍♂️

[@CoffeyOutdoors]

Nice comparison video

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@paultravis7580]

U can have two of the same guns same barrier length and one will like fed and the other win. A proper pattern test will tell u what gun likes what. Enjoyed the video

[@robparkersfishingworld]

Pretty good paint job on it. I had one almost the same.

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@243songs3]

Great video man great info 👌

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@reubenstorey1515]

Makes sense why i never miss a bird with federals ! U should do a video on remington #6 shells i had good luck with them too upland hunting

[@migratorygame7400]

I haven't made any videos for a couple of years. I might pick the camera back up this season.

[@miketyson8933]

What choke? Good work tho, its fun doing stuff like this, you can learn a lot about your shotgun and the ammo. Guns can be picky and some like other shells ya never know

[@migratorygame7400]

I was using a modified choke. I couldn't agree more!

[@miketyson8933]

I always pay the extra $1-$2 to get the high brass ;)

[@alexsharykin5435]

You can cut shells Where is propellant area and show the exactly shot container. Good comparison

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@wemcal]

Great video and information

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@-B_G-]

Federal has always been a better shotgun shell. They use better components and make a neater cleaner round

[@todddykes3577]

The Winchesters have multiple shot sizes thats why there is more. The federal shells are much more consistent. Steel shot is the same way. Cut open a SuperX steel load and a Federal speed shok. The difference is huge

[@migratorygame7400]

Your right they did have multiple shot size in the shells and the federal had some football shaped shot as well. If I can get my hands on a box of each I'll definitely check them out.

[@klementiatravlos101]

Nice video.i do like federals vs winchester for doves.i don t know how but you see the federals and you say ok another cheap shell you see the winchester and you say aaa winchesterrr and you buy it you go for doves you are out off win.and you run to the nearest store you find only federal and you say ok back to the field and you say wooooww....9 years i use them for doves and for skeet with over and under.

[@charlesdavis9529]

This is a great video💪🏽 but off subject of this topic I've seen people on KZbin committing murders with the cheapest dirty guns because there criminals and never clean them running the cheapest sorriest ammo ever 115 grain with zero technique while holding there firearm and still some how win against a guy that has all those credentials it just really makes me wonder sometimes

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you! Alot of people abuse their right to bear arms.

[@lisab9424]

Hi! Mike umphreys shared you out, new sub! Have a great day!nice there today..tfs

[@migratorygame7400]

Mike is awesome! Thank you and you too!

[@HALWG51]

There should be 394 pellets in 1 1/8 oz of 7.5 shot.

[@timothyprice9064]

Federal has a more consistent pellet size, each pellet has a more consistent flight. Winchester with its different size pellets is like shooting a shell with mixed pellets, which is exactly what it is. The further the range the worse Winchester gets. Excellent video thank you for opening my eyes to this.

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you and your welcome!

[@timothyprice9064]

@@migratorygame7400 I'm in my early 60s. The old-timers tell me to use Federal over Winchester. Until now I thought they were the same. Old dogs can learn new tricks.

[@NvrchFotia]

I cut a couple federal shells open and the shot wasn't very regular. I didn't compare it to a winchester shell though so they may well be worse.

[@timothyprice9064]

@@NvrchFotia I'm getting the feeling batches of ammo are not the same from year to year. I know they are not the same from company to company. The more I think I got a hand on what's going on the more I find out something different from what I thought. I'm now thinking pellet size is just a ballpark size. Especially in the cheap bulk ammo I bought most often. Seems like the more ammo I opened the more disappointed I get.

[@robwashington4935]

Good Job!

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@Ryonnater]

Dudee.. how did you just sit there and count all them?? Haha TWICE at that!!

[@migratorygame7400]

Lmao my hand started to cramp up!

[@jake300win]

Anyone else think the cheap federal shells have more recoil than the Winchester? I have a light weight 12 hauge Benelli 828 and feel a noticeable difference.

[@migratorygame7400]

I haven't noticed, but I haven't really paid attention to it either.

[@fullchoke01]

These comparisons are all well and good but too many factors with patterning a shot charge at 30 plus yards on a small board. You went high and right on both cold shots, better way would be firing at a large board and circling the entire pattern and working off the whole pattern.

[@migratorygame7400]

Agree!

[@silverandblackentertainment]

Sometimes it’s all about the wad.

[@timothyprice9064]

So now we know to buy Federal when you can, and Winchester when you have to.

[@migratorygame7400]

These days you've gotta buy whatever you can find!

[@timothyprice9064]

@@migratorygame7400 Lol, yes this is true. Dove season is here and ammo is nowhere to be found.

[@Purple_Wayne]

Good testing

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@MrChickensnatcher]

Maybe the amount of shot has to do with the overall weight of each round.

[@ErnieHatmaker]

I don't dove hunt, but I'm curious if the Federals I love are your choice.

[@migratorygame7400]

I'll shoot anything. The federal had a better pattern in my gun.

[@EdsAttentionToDetail]

I know Ernie likes Federal because there's a mega ton of Federal boxes around here.😅

[@migratorygame7400]

They seem to work pretty good through my gun!

[@MD-mm1zv]

What about Winchester "Super X"? What's the difference with those? Also, the two-piece wad may be tightening the pattern.

[@migratorygame7400]

Great question! I'm working on another video between winchester and federal. I've got a box of super x, we can take a look at em.

[@jamesyurky3048]

The purpose of a 2 piece wad is so they don’t have to change up with their different shot drops 7/8 , 1 oz , 11/8 , 1 1/4

[@Tex1680]

lol Damn... I ain't trying to pick out shot from my birds. Federal seems so under powered.

[@migratorygame7400]

Lol.. I shot both boxes hunting doves and honestly I didn't see a difference.

[@jasontipton8430]

Not sure how that works federal hold a better pattern with less shot

[@jamesyurky3048]

Federal blue box 2 piece was the red box Walmart 100 pack one piece was

[@jamesyurky3048]

Wad

[@dustinmoore1559]

That birds name is LT. Dan he ain't got no legs

[@NvrchFotia]

Which burns cleaner?

[@migratorygame7400]

I honestly don't know. I'd imagine they're about the same.

[@HALWG51]

The Winchester white box are basically junk.

[@migratorygame7400]

I personally like Winchester ammo.

[@MD-mm1zv]

Would a full choke improve your hunt?

[@migratorygame7400]

I think a full choke is to tight of a pattern for doves. There hard to hit as it is. I prefer improved or modified chokes for dove hunting. I personally use a modified choke. But try them all out and use what works best for you.

[@buzzkill4623]

Sample size too small. Have to try more and from different batches to draw any valid conclusion

[@migratorygame7400]

I'd love to do it again! With different brands and different cokes but I cant find any ammo anywhere.

[@buzzkill4623]

You have to only have 1 variable at a time..ammo. all other conditions, chokes etc have to be the same in comparing 2 shells. Cool idea though.

[@thomasbrooks8112]

Nicely done! I'd go insane doing that much counting! To get a good comparison, you'd need to shoot at least 5 shells each and then see how the count comes out. I did find it a little strange in the shot size variations in the Winchester ammo? I'm a huge fan of Winchester AA 1-1/8 oz. Either 7-1/2 or 8 for quail and dove. That harder shot just patterns better with fewer fliers.

[@larryjistel3018]

Federal is a 3 piece wad system... cup, cushion and gas seal...

[@migratorygame7400]

Thank you!

[@jjaguilar7162]

Can these shells kill though, are they deadly for for home defense??

[@migratorygame7400]

They take doves down pretty easy! Other than that I'm not real sure.

[@yourmomma2995]

no, you need to use slugs or buckshot for home defense. bird shot is for small birds. i have read about home invaders being shot point blank in the face while climbing through a window with bird shot and the crook was able to run away and escape.

[@223savvage]

@@yourmomma2995 and a slug or buck shot could likely go through hella walls in your house and hit your family or even neighbors house .

[@yourmomma2995]

@@223savvage its pretty obvious that anything that will penetrate a person, will also penetrate a sheet rock wall.

[@223savvage]

@@yourmomma2995 but those bird shots are going to be stopped easier after making contact / going through an intruder compared to a slug.

[@zuckertube]

Not a fan of smaller Shot. Less engery down range. Not to mention Shot Not to spec

[@migratorygame7400]

It works pretty good on morning dove's!

[@MultiChimRichalds]

just weigh the shot.. bruh lol

[@migratorygame7400]

Lol, that would be easier!

[@jasonlopez4855]

One has more brass and power in it ⁉️ one is not brass Winchester

[@averagesouthtexan5269]

Federal 8 slaps on doves

[@hanklewis6848]

I don't think you pulled the shot maybe your barrel is bent???????

[@migratorygame7400]

Lol maybe? 🤷‍♂️

[@theintrovertedsocialite6714]

100 shot for $25 must be nice

[@migratorygame7400]

How much is it for you?

[@theintrovertedsocialite6714]

@@migratorygame7400 I just bought 50 for $40

[@migratorygame7400]

@@theintrovertedsocialite6714 lead target loads?

[@theintrovertedsocialite6714]

@@migratorygame7400 same as in video haha

[@migratorygame7400]

@@theintrovertedsocialite6714 that's crazy. Walmart has em for 25 a box when we can find em.