Windows 10 the OS that refuses to die will be interesting in 2025

[@yerachmielb1]

1:51 people may hate change, but the resistance to changing from Windows 10 to Windows 11 is unprecedented. Like you said, we're 3.5 years into Windows 11, but Windows 10 has had two quarters of gaining market share within the past year. Microsoft isn't learning from this either, instead of giving people choices, having the consumer in mind, and adapting to the reality of what the people want, Microsoft is trying to force what they want onto everyone else, and it's willing to create massive security and operational sacrifices in order to do so.

[@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami]

Exactly.

[@CookyMonzta]

And that's why the Linux share of the OS market will rise, and rise dramatically, quite possibly to 10% by mid-2026. The response by M$ will be to force companies to sign contracts forbidding them to make the same software compatible with Linux (i.e., forced exclusivity). Adobe would probably be the first one to kiss their ass in this matter. As for the other companies, watch the antitrust and exclusivity lawsuits go flying everywhere.

[@Cyrillium]

The only thing Microsoft imposed is the tpm requirement if not for those meddling kids who hacked UEFI

[@djdaz411]

I think most average users who are still on Windows 10 won't bother to upgrade or pay the $30. They will just run their PC's unpatched until it dies and then they will buy a new one.

[@jonathanparle8429]

I did that with the Windows 7 machine I built in 2009 and which died a few weeks ago. I just got the essential security updates for Windows 7 (which Microsoft were still providing) and that was it. All the programs I was using under Windows 7 on that machine were installed soon after building it - with some updated to later versions.

[@NepTuneLuis]

Without a Google Account because every password ever that still have a Windows 10 PC changed

[@rogerfranz1152]

Yes till it dies

[@MKUltra_YT]

Im calling Microsofts bluff. I dont think they will actually stop updates. They tried to do the same to Windows XP back in the day but backtracked

[@dono42]

I do not remember the numbers, but similar things happened with Windows XP and Windows 7.

[@marcsheinberg6487]

I would switch my old, unsupported machine to Windows 11 under their "don't ask, don't tell" policy but I am afraid at some point they won't allow them to run anymore

[@MegaNoim]

win 10 it just works so smooth and flawlessly, win11 is a headache with all the bugs. I went back to win10 , and yes I do have a compatible system.

[@bcsr4ever]

I seriously can barely tell the difference. But then I also have linux machines, so...

[@4custaywithme]

10 WIN

[@SDAnime]

I plan on continuing using Windows 10. I may get the extra years of updates.

[@firstlast5350]

If you use 0patch there should be upgrades for many years and you won't giving money to microsoft.

[@fecklesstech929]

Windows 10 is the end of my Microsoft journey. It's a shame too. I've been using Windows since version 3.1. I'm not downgrading to Windows 11. I don't want 1) Copilot 2) Onedrive 3) Recall 4) Edge 5) Bitlocker, or 6) a Microsoft account. Microsoft has gone insane. This is my computer--not theirs. I've already switched to Linux. Very happy on Mint, MX, and Endeavour.

[@Andriej69]

So, it's gonna be Win XP and 7 all over again. Some things don't change

[@skp8431]

This may force ms to extend support for Windows 10 like they did 13 years ago with xp lol

[@HOBBS-4]

For me, Windows 10 was the perfect 10, its sad to see it end. I'm giving up on Windows altogether.

[@rin55]

The end of life for Win 10 is premature, especially considering they meant to make it the last Windows ever. But the last Windows does not move pc and laptop units. Hence 11. When I got rid of the Win XP pc it was so old it struggled opening a regular news website, let alone KZbin. It was not the primary pc of the household, but it was still being used for word dicuments, pdfs and browsing. But could no longer be used and too old for modifications. It was within a year of XP end of life. Now I wish I kept it as a collectible and for nostalgia. I upgraded our 2011 Dell Win 7 laptop to Windows 10 in 2020, on the last day before Win 7's end of life. Notice how I was able to skip an entire Win8 and still fit the requirements of Win 10 with a decade old laptop? Yeah.That laptop is still used almost every day, to this day. And you are telling me I need to scrap my perfectly fine desktop PC bought in 2016 because it does not meet the requirements of Win11?Not even Win 12, but Win 11? Just to sustain capitalism and further line the pockets of the rich and get datamined and pay electricity bills to run bloatware for Win 11? Nah, fam.

[@SmokeApples]

Windows 11 will never be a favorite

[@peelp5080-i8y]

Why do you think that, @SmokeApples?

[@Romactu]

Me neither, it's been a trouble maker since it first released. Microsoft Account, Intel Processor from 8th gen or later (since 24H2 Intel Processor from 11th gen or later are now required).

[@jonathanparle8429]

After 4 months of Windows 11 (enforced as my previous 15 year old Windows 7 computer died), the one thing that stands out is continually finding sliders that I have to turn off to stop Microsoft either overtly invading my privacy or putting up annoying messages all the time. Just as soon as I think I have them all turned off, something else comes up. it's like Whack A Mole. The other serious issue I have noticed is the right click context menu caused Explorer to freeze - it seems to be caused when a number of very large files with very long file names are sequentially right-clicked. I had to go back to the old classic context menu to resolve that since I already had the latest Windows 11 updates (and the classic context menu stopped the freezes). As for OneDrive, I appear to have managed to escape that. But I had been happy with Windows 7. There is nothing I do on this new computer that could not have been done under Windows 7.

[@Cableman-hr2uu]

in actual fact, you can continue to use even though the support ends, there won't be any problem.

[@firstlast5350]

Or just use 0patch instead and have security patches for many years.

[@robinm.1961]

You are 100% right.

[@charlespratt8663]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@pauldreher5622]

Maybe a case of (1) my computer still does what I need it to do and (2) stop uploading all my stuff to your servers M$. Bad enough with all the spyware and hacking going on out there already, I don't need my OS helping them out.

[@mircconpetko1458]

Dont care about W11...Already have LTSC and Ubuntu and Linux Mint .All is good so is gaming... At least for me. Good content as always pozdrav!

[@mattpobursky850]

This. Since 2020 I have upgraded or built a couple dozen new systems for my business, home office, family and friends. All of them running Linux Mint and a few with Win10 LTSC VMs for for specialized $$$$ Windows only software. I have no need for Windows 11 so this is the end of line for me with Microsoft. I suppose if I really needed to I could run Windows 11 in a VM but at this point I have no need to.

[@sebbyteh9203]

We are merely holding windows accoutable for what they wished for. This will ne the last OS

[@skivvywaver]

If you are a gamer eventually you will have to update to 11 to keep Steam and other apps working. Drivers will stop being updated for newer games. You can get hacked drivers but how good are they?

[@xgui4-studios]

that cause Windows 11 have strict system requirement i am pretty sure

[@davinp]

Some people may have a WIndows 10 PC that works well and don't want to upgrade to Windows 11 or buy a new one. There is no indication that a Windows 12 will come out in 2025 and right know it looks unlikely. Back then, people continued to use Windows XP until support ended meaning they didn't upgrade to Windows 7 until 2014 or 2015.

[@mark-sk3do]

I agree with other comments, if they extend the paid updates beyond one year they will also likely increase the price trying to force more people off Win10

[@ethimself5064]

At $30/year I wonder how much MS net earnings would work out to - And then there are the untold number of businesses would aff to that for some time?

[@Romactu]

Remember, if you're talking about Windows 10 still active in 2025, as long you're not using Home, Pro or Education versions or else there will be consequences.

[@ljthomson6645]

I think the problem is Win 11 Vs Win10 is as bad as Win8.0 Vs Win7 in most people’s eye probably a good lot of similarities I just think maybe Microsoft for once might be realising or pick up on it this time even if slowly as Win8.0 and Win11 were both fairly bad softwares that forced in them things people did not want for example and it would not surprise me if Win 11 support is short lived like Win8.0 it has to be as that may be the only way windows survives as many new competitors are coming in the ring ; Google, Linux mint, Steam Os ,Nintendo,Apple, Android even technically Xbox and many others Microsoft does not have time I would think to mess around this time as they have actual competitors to counter them this time for a far tighter market compared to when Windows 8.0 came out which had support drop before I think any other Win software that came after 1998

[@JayWeis-g7d]

Because it’s garbage and so full of advertisements. It only benefits Microsoft not the consumer.

[@JoshuaTrenge]

How long have you been using W11? I've been using 11 for about 3 years and I love it! Funny thing though... I only jumped to 11 so quickly because it's so similar to 10... lmao!

[@1mwls]

I bought a new laptop because they were saying Windows 11 would not run on my last one, which was purchased in 2012. I wanted a new one anyway, Then I was angry as not long later there was talk of Windows 12. I will use Rufus to install Windows 11 on my old one then someone can use it.

[@bondjovi4595]

The os that doesn't contain malware.

[@Resume08]

Long live Windows X!!!!

[@duffmanoooyea]

i will pay for the year and hope steam comes out with its new os. ill ditch windows for steam

[@lorenz681]

Doesn't everybody know how to put Windows 11 on older machines by now?

[@sevenfacedsin]

So, as a Vista and 8.1 enjoyer, I personally think Windows 11 is the biggest Microsoft dumpster fire ever made. I will not be using any Windows past Windows 10. I run IoT LTSC on all the computers in my house, and we will be doing so until 2032. Plenty of time to start watching Linux and make the transition over time. The big thing is gaming, despite what people say, it just isn't up to snuff for me over on the Linux side.

[@darkalligator]

Microsoft's fault

[@green9227]

I am still on Windows 10 because they downgraded the touch experience by removing tablet mode windows 11 has been unstable for me. Got tired of the bugs paying for extended support.

[@douglasermedia3390]

My employer forced all the company laptops to "upgrade" to W11, and now I constantly get bugs & faults that MS doesn't bother fixing. In my many previous years using W10, I never had any problems. Microsoft no longer listens to user's feedback, it only wants all our valuable telemetry data. Reporting anything on their support portals doesn't even get a response from MS.

[@GaryBeltz]

Microsoft will just start forcing upgrades or they will just start charging more for years 2 and 3 for the extended security updates

[@TallPaulInKy]

What Microsoft doesn't understand folks, like me, have programs that function well and have no need to upgrade (though I hate that term).We have purchased programs that work well and continue to function. If you only do word processing and web browsing Windows 10, and even earlier systems work fine. In my audio studio I have even and older system, but the programs on that computer will not run on newer operating systems. If you are a gamer or into graphic arts yes you might need something new. But that is not 90 percent of the country.

[@danestegman155]

Good video! I like Windows 10 and would be willing to pay the price that Microsoft is going to offer! To keep my Windows PC going. My PC is over 10 years old.

[@Sofien-t3o]

The stock windows 11 is bad...but if you download the iso then you tweak it with MSMG toolkit, and you apply privacy settings with the script called privacy sexy...and finally you use windhawk or explorer patcher to change the look of windows 11 and get back the classic right menu....you will finally get a great windows 11

[@bcsr4ever]

Should have left it at Windows 10 and just stopped providing major updates to older machines. That'll teach em. Lol.

[@aardvark888]

Cannot upgrade to windows 11 on my 9 year old laptop , Microsoft will not force me to buy a new laptop so I will keep running windows 10 at this time I am considering 3 options switch to Linux , android tablet on buying a used windows 11 laptop at this time android tablet is my first choice so bye-bye windows.

[@theresareyes2653]

People will use zero patch

[@spmj1251]

Win10... Big fail. I miss vista😕 by 10/1/25 ill be switching from windows to linux. Been a windows user since 07

[@CTSFanSam]

Looking forward to end of support for Wi 10. Then my Win 10 machine won't update without permission and reboot. My daily driver over the last 2 years has become Linux. I have a Win 10 machine for 1 purpose, and a win 7 machine for 1 purpose. The win 7 machine is still just fine. I will buy no software that requires Windows. I have never used Win 11.... ever.

[@Jordan75577]

its there fault for the requirements

[@michaelkeudel8770]

Maybe because Winn 11 is crap. Win 10 will continue to run f8ne after supprt ends, I just retired Win 7 on my desktop 6 months ago and installed Win 10. Linux comes next, 11 is getting nowhere near my hardware.

[@danielmelanson4211]

hi in 2015 windows 10 came out and had a big uproae upbut it now ist back againg for windows 11 growup and go whit the program😶😶😶😶

[@marjon82]

i just got a new pc with windows 11 and i hate it lovved windows 10

[@jeffhalebopp]

I'm sorry but 'hating change' is a cop-out thing to say and not an honest reason why I, and many others won't move from windows 10. MS truly removed functionality in this new horrible OS called 11. Windows 11 is worse than windows 10 period no matter what you say. One thing that is an absolute must is moving the taskbar to the side and being able to show full paths on opened folders. I'm a power user an have to see all opened folders at a glance. I also HATE those thin scroll bars! MS must be on drugs and don't care about users.

[@Vanessinha91Pucca]

Like on XP once the support goes, everyone will move on to 11. After all, except who has a REALLY old PC, W11 is W10, it's not like Vista vs XP. People just like to b*tch about Microsoft. Apple can do all the BS they do and people give a Pass. Linux can be this nightmare it can be, that need a bunch of ducktape to run software and people give a pass..

[@roklaca3138]

People do not care about tgeir os.. They use applications, thats what linux command line evangelists like to forget... But win11 does the job of running my shit eventhough micrisoft leeches telemetry...

[@FirstLast-ml7yf]

Hated XP ...it sucked compared to the Macs of the time...