Windows Server vs Regular Windows - How Are They Different?

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@ThioJoe
@ThioJoe 2 жыл бұрын
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@peters.7428
@peters.7428 2 жыл бұрын
My school runs 10 users off one PC with Windows Server 2007, that has i7 870, 6GB DDR3 and a GT 210. That PC is really slow, but the cool thing is the ability to run multiple users at the same time.
@NotAGeySer
@NotAGeySer 2 жыл бұрын
Got a bad experience with crucial got a 1TB SSD and it no longer works 1 year later and an unknown amount of months prior to that The dang SSD went offsale it clearly was defective by design otherwise why would they take a "normal SSD offsale" Support on the website is shit can't even get a refund I still have a "warranty" for 2 more years but that does jack shit. (This comment is just a copy and pasted user experience of mine) I just find the company shady
@AdamsTaiwan
@AdamsTaiwan 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend first installing the free standalone Hyper-V server. Then install Admin Center on Win10/11 and connect to the Hyper-V server to manage it. With that done you can now install almost any version of windows as a Virtual Machine on Hyper-V. Linux can also be installed, but requires more work.
@Animeso
@Animeso 2 жыл бұрын
did you buy it for this video?
@PyrrhosDauvet
@PyrrhosDauvet 2 жыл бұрын
The things that are not said on this price page, is that it's just for 16 cpu core, if you want to have more core with your server, you need more licences, and let's not forget VM that also need the full core count for licensing (it's all obscure calculations), and we must also remember the need for CALs, and the license price depend on the server version. There are 3 versions of windows server, the basic one that is used in this video, sql server and exchange server that MS want to kill so everyone move to 365, but some company don't want things in the cloud. The server part of windows is a juicy business, there are licenses for everything and they are pricy.
@NorthLaker
@NorthLaker 2 жыл бұрын
The most common use case for Windows Server is an Active Directory domain. Most companies and schools allow you to use the same login details on all computers on their network, and even allow universal access to all your files. That's all done through Active Directory. It's more commonly known through the term domain, not to be confused with a domain on the internet. A domain is a single network of user accounts. One company might have multiple domains on their network infrastructure.
@TECHiHOBBYIST
@TECHiHOBBYIST 2 жыл бұрын
How to do this
@_e621
@_e621 2 жыл бұрын
not fully detailed as lots of different menus but not much is needed to have it setup
@thej3799
@thej3799 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Edu N is lite windows 10. Makes it seem it needed pdc, but could use workgroups. Does. I use it. No candy crush! Among other bullshit. Add your own bullshit as needed like it should be.
@t.j.s
@t.j.s 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. In my case the domain includes about 200k work machines and the active directory handles the security for everything from mail, calenders, sso control, application assignment, licensing, and much more. I personally am not in the group that manages it, but I regularly work with them so I get a good overview.
@GameGeek128
@GameGeek128 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! For those who actually want to learn some of this stuff NetworkChuck and older Eli the Computer Guy videos are great for learning the theory.
@t.j.s
@t.j.s 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the windows services explained below. - Active directory domain services This is what you'll find in your school or anywhere where you can logon to every windows pc with the same username and password. Mostly manages security access control. - DHCP Basically enables the server to function as a dhcp (subpart of a router) and assign ip addresses on the network. - DNS Enables the server to act as a recursive domain name lookup server for the local network. - File and storage services This one is used to host and manage file shares as well as workfolders if required. - Hyper-V This is a hyper visor service by windows. Basically let's you host VMs, kind of like VMware. - Print and document services Can manage multiple printers and make them accessible to the local network. - web server Let's you host websites on the server.
@Napert
@Napert 2 жыл бұрын
interesting tip: even the "headless" windows server will have a GUI it will just be a lot more limited than normal desktop experience (it will show just the background and the cmd window) it won't be as "headless" as linux can be
@kim-hendrikmerk4163
@kim-hendrikmerk4163 2 жыл бұрын
Got to say that is sad
@dylon4906
@dylon4906 2 жыл бұрын
and this is why i say linux is far superior for server, windows is just too integrated with the gui
@vogonp4287
@vogonp4287 2 жыл бұрын
@@kim-hendrikmerk4163 Yeah. The interface is basically a part of the kernel.
@Maxawa0851
@Maxawa0851 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylon4906 whats wrong with gui?
@dylon4906
@dylon4906 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maxawa0851 its unnecessary in a lot of server use cases, just uses unnecessary resources and can be complicated
@noferblatz
@noferblatz 2 жыл бұрын
Those price points are exactly why ISPs overwhelmingly use Linux.
@skelebro9999
@skelebro9999 2 жыл бұрын
And also the game servers and other servers
@zhiyan1147
@zhiyan1147 2 жыл бұрын
Linux are much more light-weighted than windows so it the best for the server environment. Unless I have to deal with active directory or windows specific application...
@skelebro9999
@skelebro9999 2 жыл бұрын
@unsubtract well they won't since they also know that pirates are the only way they can track data and make money
@skelebro9999
@skelebro9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@wsv8818 People do. Welcome to the Internet
@skelebro9999
@skelebro9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@wsv8818 Exactly. Well some people do. Mostly 'influencers'.
@robbinklg9
@robbinklg9 2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely enable Bitlocker on Windows server! You enabled the feature yourself in the video.
@kayankarreira
@kayankarreira 2 жыл бұрын
windows backup too!
@pridhewp2942
@pridhewp2942 2 жыл бұрын
5:21
@michaelhanson5773
@michaelhanson5773 2 жыл бұрын
just goes to prove he meant it when he said he didnt know anything about windows server. Edit: especially the fact that when he brought up prices, he totally disregarded any CAL pricing that would be required per user or device that would access that pc/server services such as printer or file server services.
@GameGeek128
@GameGeek128 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhanson5773 right... CAL pricing and quoting always confuses the heck out of clients
@michaelhanson5773
@michaelhanson5773 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameGeek128 ikr.. in college i worked at a pc sales and repair store. We would get called to quote out servers and do consults. The hardest part of any of that was the CAL pricing and explaining how it worked and us trying to remember rules and how things like virtualization licensing worked for client VM depending on the server versions.
@erickitetu8733
@erickitetu8733 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's been years since I installed and used a Windows Server Edition. I think Windows Server 2008 was the last I used. However, you can't talk about Windows Server without discussing the power of Active Directory, Remote Installation, etc. Basically all the things you can do to workstations and user who log in to the domain. You can change computer settings (how their desktops look and other settings), install windows remotely with preset settings, etc and this for different user and computer group - think departments in an organization). Windows Server is best when you have thousands of clients.
@MichaelPowellAus
@MichaelPowellAus 2 жыл бұрын
There's another version of Windows that has some of the features of Server and additional features useful to regular users eg. Resilient File System, Persistent Memory, RAM addressability to 128Gb etc. It's called Windows for Workstations
@MichaelPowellAus
@MichaelPowellAus 2 жыл бұрын
@333Orobas 666 Must have had a brain fart LOL, should have said up to 6TB Ram and up to 4 CPUs
@dh2032
@dh2032 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPowellAus we have all had brain fart's for the last to years
@thej3799
@thej3799 2 жыл бұрын
@Michael Powell yeah, i got angry when my w10pro was downgraded so they could sell this at many, many, times the cost. Lately i use the N version of the educational edition. Its the lightest desktop oriented one. Workstations is heavier, and i got used to no more refs. It wants you to use a domain as well, but doesn't care if you use a workgroup. Server 2003 was my favorite pre x64 windows. Before vt-x, it was very useful to slim down sabdbox windows that can be put under a single process on the host. I hosted 5000 torrent seeds. Among othervstuff as it was the wan facing aspect of my pc. A proxy to get around censorship at work (why block Slashdot.... for tech guys?)
@Tech66640
@Tech66640 2 жыл бұрын
I use windows server on a everyday basis and I love it! Thanks for covering a basic overview of what windows server is, I'm sure someone studying might find this video useful.
@kinkykane0607
@kinkykane0607 2 жыл бұрын
is it any good for gaming ?? I might update to windows server as my mane operating system. I don't like Windows 11 so I'm still on Windows 10. The problem is that at some point Microsoft is going to get rid of windows 10 and I will be forced to use windows 11, so I'm thinking as a way to get around this why not use windows server as its basically the same as Windows 10 :)
@ioneocla6577
@ioneocla6577 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinkykane0607 you shouldn't use windows server on a main pc. If you really want to get rid of windows 10 but not running windows 11 then try windows 10 ltsc but it's hard to get a legal license for it
@kinkykane0607
@kinkykane0607 2 жыл бұрын
@@ioneocla6577 thanks for the info. I'll look into it :)
@migovas1483
@migovas1483 Жыл бұрын
@@kinkykane0607 it depends which games you are refereeing too, if you need to use modern gaming, with Store services, Xbox live and stuff like that, is a No No, but if you are a retro gamer, with emulators , Retroarch, old PC gaming...and things like that is Ok..
@Flrere
@Flrere 2 жыл бұрын
The IIS Manager (and IIS as a whole) is in the consumer version of Windows: you have to enable it through the optional features menu.
@nipstyler
@nipstyler 2 жыл бұрын
IIS isn't available in windows 10 Home only in Pro.
@Flrere
@Flrere 2 жыл бұрын
@@nipstyler I have Home and I have it.
@cletusthefetus23
@cletusthefetus23 2 жыл бұрын
This is true for IIS and other things like SQL server (just download and install it). But they both have benefits when using with active directory, e.g. using domain account for authentication\authorization.
@thomaslayton2570
@thomaslayton2570 2 жыл бұрын
@@nipstyler it's available!
@minecraftify95
@minecraftify95 2 жыл бұрын
I had done this on my laptop
@ChristianPrev
@ChristianPrev 2 жыл бұрын
IIS is actually a feature that comes in most installs of windows 10 and 11, it is very hidden and obscured in windows, although if you know what you are doing you can re-enable it in the registry editor, it essentially is a network server, you can run websites off of it and it has features like the ability to create a media wiki page locally its a pretty handy app, it's just most people wouldn't see a use case for this.
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx Жыл бұрын
you can turn that on is the windows features area
@ChristianPrev
@ChristianPrev Жыл бұрын
@@xBINARYGODx yea you can, completely forgot about that
@pacifico4999
@pacifico4999 2 жыл бұрын
I used to teach in a school where they used Windows MultiPoint Server. It's a pretty niche version of Windows that lets many users use the same PC at the same time, each with their own monitor + keyboard + mouse. I've never seen that version of Windows elsewhere.
@andrewzasidko6595
@andrewzasidko6595 2 жыл бұрын
That is now a role in Windows Server called Remote Desktop Services (Terminal Services in older versions).
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewzasidko6595 No, multi-point server allowed you to attach multiple sets of keyboards, mice, and monitors to one physical computer, and use them to run different sessions. With Remote Desktop Services, you need to use separate computers which might be something as simple as a Chromebook, and access the sessions over the network.
@andrewzasidko6595
@andrewzasidko6595 2 жыл бұрын
@@katbryce oh, didn't know that difference. Do you know how it would've been done in a classroom? From what I've seen in my uni, there were some thin client look-alike at each workstation, although they might've been clients of networked KVM switch (then it's hard for me to imagine amount of video outputs the Multi-point server machine should have)
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewzasidko6595 Probably a USB hub and a wired-through display connection. It might convert the signals to work over an ethernet cable, and convert them back at the other end, to benefit from the longer distance limits offered by network cables - increasing from about 10 meters up to about 100 meters. You probably need that to get from one end of the classroom to the other. These days you could do everything on a single USB-C cable, but that is a pretty recent thing and likely wasn't an option at the time.
@andrewzasidko6595
@andrewzasidko6595 2 жыл бұрын
@@katbryce Yes, that's how IP-KVM works, common server stuff. I wondered if Multi-Point server requires so much video outputs then. I believe 1 single slot card can handle up to 2-3 VGA's max, then we need 10 videocards to supply typical classroom. Or, closer to reality - up to 6-8 work spaces on single machine unit.
@omaanshkaushal3522
@omaanshkaushal3522 2 жыл бұрын
Before I found his channel I was a dumb bookworm. Once I did, I quickly changed to a tech-savvy person and now I just build my own computer
@Ash-jx3rp
@Ash-jx3rp 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Saffy1
@Saffy1 2 жыл бұрын
Okay
@flag098
@flag098 2 жыл бұрын
Oh K
@derkernsen
@derkernsen 2 жыл бұрын
O key
@porterlojko6332
@porterlojko6332 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to him im almost a tech person and im a gamer already!
@wisher77
@wisher77 2 жыл бұрын
Data deduplication is a very nice feature in the File System manager, you can also see all network shares there aswell, quick and consolidated access for all your storage and drive needs
@Piano_Board
@Piano_Board 10 ай бұрын
wait... data what now?
@richardsantink
@richardsantink 2 жыл бұрын
it's interesting to note, that back in the day of WindowsNT Server 4.0, we could install it on a laptop and it actually did perform better than NT Workstation 4.0, presumably because it ran very lean with regards to services.
@6sicSIX
@6sicSIX 2 жыл бұрын
You can still do this. Just need to disable things like the shutdown event tracker etc.
@MrSlurpyGames
@MrSlurpyGames 2 жыл бұрын
I used to daily Windows Server before switching back to Linux and it most definitely is still the case
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
That is still the case now.
@sidex15
@sidex15 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about Windows Server when I'm taking the Computer Systems Servicing Certificate exam when I was in my senior high school year... The test is to create an Active Directory/domain, print server, and remote desktop... it's quite hard to do troubleshoot because you can't use the internet to find errors...
@healerslighthelen
@healerslighthelen Ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video, but one question: do you recommend buying the Windows 11 packages? Or are they a waste of money?
@joshuaLLM1
@joshuaLLM1 Ай бұрын
That will depend on who you ask, but in my case I prefer to pay for them and save myself the time of searching for the downloads separately.
@Ann_779
@Ann_779 Ай бұрын
You also have to take into account where you are going to buy it. BNH Software worked for me, but each person has their own experience.
@joshuaLLM1
@joshuaLLM1 Ай бұрын
@@Ann_779 I think BNH was the last one I used but I don't remember very well.
@healerslighthelen
@healerslighthelen Ай бұрын
So it's the best option if I'm going to save time.
@Ann_779
@Ann_779 Ай бұрын
@@healerslighthelen And well in conclusion it is not a waste of money
@bernardonegri5416
@bernardonegri5416 2 жыл бұрын
6:53 You can actually download the IIS feature in regular Windows
@Lampe2020
@Lampe2020 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. The ease of setting it all up graphically almost convinced me to run my own data storage server with WinServer - until you showed these astronomically high prizes, that made me stick to ubuntu-server, which you can get completely free.
@Jon717
@Jon717 2 жыл бұрын
You can also use Server at no cost. Hint hint, EzWindSLIC.
@Lampe2020
@Lampe2020 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jon717 How?
@Jon717
@Jon717 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lampe2020 Are you asking how it's possible or how to use it? It activates Server using SLIC emulation, can also be used on Vista/7. The script is pretty easy to use. You might want also look at MAS, Microsoft-Activation-Scripts, for Windows 10/11 (including LTSC).
@fred-youtube
@fred-youtube 2 жыл бұрын
You can install mate desktop for a way to manage it graphically
@Lampe2020
@Lampe2020 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jon717 Hey, I've already used MAS to activate Win7! But how to download WinServer?
@ThePredictR4036
@ThePredictR4036 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend Windows Server for users who just want to surf in web, or watch videos, run little service like Minecraft server, NAS or a web server with a really old computer. For ex. In my case, i have a Core 2 Dou with just 2 gb's of ram. I installed the server 2022, and it's performs better than any lightweight Linux, or even the windows 7 (what's in these days, isn't the safest system without an antivirus). It's minimum requirements are low, 1 core min 1.1ghz 64bit CPU, 512mb ram. I recommend minimum 1 Gb of RAM.
@josef1858
@josef1858 2 жыл бұрын
You must be using a trial because server 2022 is several hundred dollars per license.
@virt-manager
@virt-manager Жыл бұрын
A Linux server is better
@ThePredictR4036
@ThePredictR4036 Жыл бұрын
@@josef1858 Yes, if you dont have a kms you have to use a trial. But with thousends of publicly aviable kms servers, you can barely use it for free. I'm talking about small home systems, not about a large enterprise. Ofc, free kms servers are not an option for an organization, but for the home user it's the best, for Windows and Office enterprise products.
@ThePredictR4036
@ThePredictR4036 Жыл бұрын
@@virt-manager No, not better. Its different. Windows Server is not better than Linux, and Linux server isn't better than Windows server. The thing that matters is the use case, whats the server is it for. For example, simple web and git server hosting Linux is a perfect option. But for other Windows prefered hosts, like FiveM, MSSQL, and other things, Windows is the good choice. You can't say, one is better than other, withut specifying the exact use case.
2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree Crucial is a great storage ssd . Got, it last year. An love how well it handles hard gaming storage and transfer speeds. You can literally see a Hugh difference with it compared to what intel/ dell uses by default .
@NobodyThatsIt
@NobodyThatsIt 2 жыл бұрын
I use Windows Server 2012 in my school. Let me tell you using the Windows 8 UI is difficult if you didn't use it in years 9:08 actually you can install a backup tool with Windows Server. I used it and actually got it to work at the second attempt. Also a benefit of it is, you can store the backup on different server. I mean imagine all accounts and work was gone and you couldn't load a backup for the server.
@verica4b
@verica4b 2 жыл бұрын
My first version was 2012 R2
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
@@verica4b My first version was Windows Server 2000 👵🏻
@NobodyThatsIt
@NobodyThatsIt 2 жыл бұрын
@@katbryce nice
@StuffOfSonny
@StuffOfSonny 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about Windows Server from some friends in school who have access to it for free as a student thing, so when they slipped me an ISO to play with, I cannot go back to Windows 10. Sure, it doesn't have a lot of things enabled out of the box, but I see that as a good thing since most installs I do of Windows 10 force me to spend the first couple days turning unnecessary things off like Cortana and Telemetry. Whereas on Server it's usually a few hours of enabling the basic things, and then enabling things I want as the need for them arises. I cannot go back, and I cannot recommend any other version of Windows any more. Besides, who actually pays for Windows now of days anyway?
@Jon717
@Jon717 2 жыл бұрын
There's Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC as well. If you don't use any of the server tools you can just use that. It can be permanently activated using MAS from Github. Note: Starting with LTSC 2021 only the IoT version has the 10 year support, regular version has 5. There's really no difference between the two. It's EOL date is Jan 13, 2032.
@Kingda2_
@Kingda2_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jon717 pls bro wat about windows 10 pro, any permanent activation available?
@bubbleboy821
@bubbleboy821 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I didn't realize MAS existed. Also, have you had any issues using LTSC, like with compatibility or anything? I'm currently running a custom Windows Pro ISO that I manually edited. So far, my windows store is broken even after I tried so hard to keep it working. My calculator app broke and I can't even reinstall it since Windows store is broken. Also, Minecraft now uses Microsoft store
@Jon717
@Jon717 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kingda2_ yes, MAS. It can permanently activate any version of Windows 10 via HWID, excluding Server. MAS only offers KMS38/KMS activation for Server. EzWindSLIC can permanently activate Server using SLIC activation, Windows 7 also uses it.
@Jon717
@Jon717 2 жыл бұрын
@@bubbleboy821 I haven't really come across many issues. LTSC doesn't have the Microsoft Store so it would need to be installed. If you plan to use the MS Store for the latest games/apps you might run into issues with not meeting minimum requirements down the line, since LTSC doesn't get any feature updates. If you don't really use the MS Store much, you should be fine.
@eddy2561
@eddy2561 2 жыл бұрын
I managed a very large, government Windows-based server environment for many years until I retiried and I was totally impressed with the MS server product. Active Directory and thousands of users was the most challenging we/I faced. We paid extra for immediate Microsoft engineering support and those guys/gals knew their business inside and out. Good cheer Microsoft.
2 жыл бұрын
Man this takes me back to college, I used server 2012 so much and I kinda miss it now
@tcbobb1613
@tcbobb1613 2 жыл бұрын
I'm taking Server 2016 right now
@swiftypopty1102
@swiftypopty1102 6 ай бұрын
You should use Windows Server 2025
@ThePoxun
@ThePoxun 2 жыл бұрын
One key practical difference between desktop and server is that desktop editions will only allow one active user at a time but server will allow multiple. If you use RDP to connect to a desktop it will lock out any active console user and if a second RPD user connects the first will be disconnected with them being logged out or their session suspended depending on the specific configuration. Server will allow multiple users to connect over RDP at the same time with their own login and none of these will impact the console user. For this reason licensing desktop software such as Office for Windows Sever is either different, more expensive, or just not available at all outside a corporate site contract.
@ElectricJoeski
@ElectricJoeski 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone pointed this out. This and Active Directory is one of the things Windows does better than Linux. Linux and all is great for running a variety of services more efficiently, but once you throw in any case for needing to remote into a GUI -- nothing beats a Windows Client/Server RDP connection.
@Aaron31056
@Aaron31056 2 жыл бұрын
My company uses windows server 2012 for all their hosting. Pretty nice and easy to work with
@NETBotic
@NETBotic 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that trashy metro UI is soooooo easy to work with. I no longer support or manage 2012 and luckily all of the in place upgrades went smoothly.
@radfordmcawesome7947
@radfordmcawesome7947 28 күн бұрын
lmao
@miltonmaj
@miltonmaj 4 ай бұрын
One of the best videos. Quality and content is top notch! Loved the explanation. Easy to understand.
@anamoyeee
@anamoyeee 2 жыл бұрын
Joe: Make sure to backup on cloud because idk your house might burn down Also Joe: Today's sponsor is Crucial, a producent of extenral disks for backup!
@thekell
@thekell 2 жыл бұрын
Proper back ups are. Oncloud, off site, and local ( same building aka house )
@ThioJoe
@ThioJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Backups should really follow the 3-2-1 principle: • Keep at least three (3) copies of your data • Store two (2) backup copies on different storage media • With one (1) of them located offsite
@KameraShy
@KameraShy 2 жыл бұрын
Do NOT trust the "cloud"! Ever. Always have copies of your data in your own hot, little hands, including offsite. I do use a cloud backup, but only as an additional offsite protection, not my only.
@joshualyle5016
@joshualyle5016 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched you in forever. Good to be back 👍
@ThioJoe
@ThioJoe 2 жыл бұрын
very good thing indeed
@Macauley7272
@Macauley7272 2 жыл бұрын
7:05 RSAT can be installed on windows client OSes to manage the server roles meaning you can technically get server manager on windows 10 you just need a server to actually manage... if that makes sense
@flos6754
@flos6754 2 жыл бұрын
The web administration panel looks interesting. At work we have Windows Server running on a dedicated server to host all of our virtual servers.
@ThunderKat
@ThunderKat 2 жыл бұрын
Windows Server is updating...You have 15 minutes to close all applications before the system power off automatically.
@andrewmcallister7781
@andrewmcallister7781 Жыл бұрын
You covered it well, from a perspective of why you wouldnt bother using it on a desktop at home. All of the services are really for authenticating, managing, controlling a companies computers via Active Directory, DHCP, DNS. Server also allows Windows to be able to address more RAM and cores. The one thing you did miss is the requirement for CALs and the cost associated with it for any device that uses services provided by the server, if you made the server public facing then you would need a different license
@eldin90
@eldin90 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a comparison video of Linux and Windows servers? I'm using only Linux servers on my home machines and never used Windows server. From this video it looks like to me that Windows server is more beginner friendly and easier to set up than Linux server. But Linux server is more reliable, lightweight and easier to modify on the fly. And the best part: It's free.
@bernardonegri5416
@bernardonegri5416 2 жыл бұрын
They are free in terms of freedom and there are plenty of gratis (for no price) server distros. But a Red Hat Enterprise Linux or OpenSUSE license is pretty expensive. If you are just making a small home server to play around with, then a free (for no price) Linux server distro is better.
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
I run both, and also FreeBSD servers. You will find that you spend a lot more time on administration and maintenance of Windows servers than either Linux or FreeBSD. Also, if you know what you are doing, you can set up Linux or FreeBSD a lot quicker than Windows. For me, to install FreeBSD and do the initial configuration steps, it takes me about 3 minutes, about 10 minutes for Debian, about 30 minutes for Ubuntu, and about 6 hours for Windows.
@GameGeek128
@GameGeek128 2 жыл бұрын
@@katbryce yup and less Malware usually :P Windows servers (especially since it matches most releases of non-server) has the same issues with Malware as the non-server editions do.
@nootics
@nootics 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameGeek128 but i would imagine that there are a *lot* of very critical linux server malware, since the vast majority of servers run linux?
@GameGeek128
@GameGeek128 2 жыл бұрын
I will not say Linux does not get Malware (anyone who says otherwise is wrong). But due to how it is opensource and therefore vendors can design their own code it can be as secure as they want it to be (provided they don't install a hacked update or something like that). I wouldn't say the majority of servers are Linux as much as I would say "half and half" since a lot of small-medium businesses use Windows since it is easier to manage day-to-day. Linux is mostly in the backend of a lot of the sites/tools we use (especially network equipment) but most IT firms don't develop those tools the vendors do... some of those tools ironically enough run a service to software that will only run on Windows! The bonus of Windows is that most things integrate with it for backups or logging. Getting a linux server to run with third-party management software can be a pain/ hit and miss haha. I think Windows and Linux servers both serve their purpose. Just depends. I would not (for instance) run an LDAP server in Linux because Active Directory is sooo much better! Now if I want a service to run on a machine that doesn't need a lot of sources, it just needs to be a web server for an interface I am running (Like Unifi controllers) I run Linux :P
@nanopi
@nanopi 2 жыл бұрын
Windows Server is a good place to run a KMS host for activating many computers on the network.
@SkyGamer911
@SkyGamer911 2 жыл бұрын
Im a Server Admin The difference: server is used for, well, server stuff. Like say you have a company with 10 people. You want their files to be stored in a "cloud" but dont want to used Onedrive. Then you can use Windows Server to solve it How it works: you add each computer to a domain. Giving computers good names is smart. Then Employee1 can login to any of your x amount of computers, and find their files provided theyre on your local network Employee2 wont have access to employee1s files and vice versa. You can have 100s of users that store their files. and you can have groups. Lets say you have dep1, dep2, dep3 and dep1.1, dep1.2 and so on you can assign users to multiple groups, create group folder etc And like they say here, AD, thats bascially what i meant with Domain above you can also have VMs like VMWare, HyperV or similar I recommend server edition to server computers, not for your own pc they use xeon cpus instead of i5 etc
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 10 ай бұрын
Roles: is the part which tells the system what services it is going to do. Features: the optional components and even the management interfaces. You can install the management feature onto a system without the role being installed, so you can manage remote servers. The management parts can be installed on Windows 10 using RSAT package. The are not installed be default, to minimize the attack service (i.e. AD attack vectors don't work on web server, as the server doesn't have AD installed on it, as the role is not installed)
@scsa20
@scsa20 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else already mention this but Windows Server is a huge thing in the world of IT with Active Directory alone (which, by the way, is what is used for managing users, groups, policy administrations, etc, for many users and computers). The costs for Windows Server licensing is so high because of the fact that it's aimed at businesses. They've changed their pricing model when Server 2016 came out to be per core now if I recall correctly. A lot of the time, though, a company that needs to license a lot of Windows Servers would usually have an agreement to get a VLK (Volume License Key) or would go through a company like CDW to purchase key or through any number of Microsoft Partnered resellers but usually when you go through a reseller (such as a MSP) you will more likely be renting the key at that point where you're paying monthly so the cost is cheaper to you short term but expensive in the long run. Also up until about a year ago, in order for you to have remote desktop you would need to use Windows Servers and buy additional CALs (Client Access License) since only Windows Server can be enabled as a terminal server to allow more than 2 users connected at any one time. Now you could use Windows 10 Enterprise with Multi-user sessions, although pretty sure that's only an Azure thing at the moment. But anyways, to touch on some other points, the whole point of File and Storage Services is to manage additional hard disks and creating a pool of disks and/or creating file shares. You technically don't need that service installed to share files and folders but having the services installed makes it a whole lot easier to manage which is why it gets installed on a file server. The other point of having it is if you are planning on creating shared drive or act as shared storage device with a pool of disks (similar to how TrueNAS does it, but in Windows way instead of ZFS) from which you can then create a iSCSI connection to share out to your ESXi, Hyper-V, or any other hypervisor hosts for shared storage (although in the real world, you usually don't want to use Windows as your storage device for pooled disks, you would usually use something like a Dell Compellent, HP LeftHand SAN, or Nimble since they handle data a lot better, although there is many many other solutions out there, just depends on the need of the business). Anyways, think I've been rambling off too long as it is. But, anyways, there's a lot of us out here who works in IT that deals with this kind of OS day in and day out that watches your channel (to either learn something new, get a refresher since we've been inside the server world too long that we forgot what the desktop world is like, or just for some good laughs) so if you have questions about a server feature, just reach out.
@n.prince2458
@n.prince2458 Жыл бұрын
@sca20 Not bad. What would you suggests as the fastest Windows 11 Server for personal use? Standard or Essential? Is there a lightweight or stripped down version of Windows 11 Server?
@scsa20
@scsa20 Жыл бұрын
@@n.prince2458 There's no thing as Windows 11 Server, are you talking about Windows Server 2022? Or are you talking about Windows 11 for Business? If you're talking about Windows Server 2022, there's pretty much no differences between the 2 other then Essentials is mean for up to to 25 users and 50 devices, it's considered a specialty server aimed for small businesses limited to a single socket up to 10 cores. If you're looking for a slime installation of Server 2022 and don't mind getting your hands dirty with the command line interface and PowerShell on top of installing the management tools on your computer for remote management then you can install Server Core which does not install the GUI.
@n.prince2458
@n.prince2458 Жыл бұрын
@scsa20 Best rambling I heard in a long time! (*This is very interesting!) You are quite correct. It is 2022 Server. I didnt diffentiste between Windows 11 Desktop with Windows Server 2022. Two very different Beast (Even though DHCP Promo can be installed. Hope I said that acronym, right) I last remembered 2016 from Network+ and Security + class. Time go by so quickly. Didn't realize how been left behind. Even Windows 11 Desktop was new to me. Anyway, I always found the Sever editions much more stable than consumer editions. TrueNas ...sounds very interesting! I wonder how you would compare it to Nimble? You are very inspiring. You've enticed me to get my old Unix up and running. My main drive have seriously bent pins. Now, I must try to find a repair service to straighten those. I have been away from the computer world much too long. You are more than quite welcome to ramble some more.:)
@davidcucek9072
@davidcucek9072 2 жыл бұрын
..you becoming better and better! keep going!
@MEJOVA
@MEJOVA 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is way better than my IT course
@vscodeproltsc884
@vscodeproltsc884 2 жыл бұрын
This is always what i wondered
@YexyYT
@YexyYT 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working with Windows Server in a VM to practice IT things and to expand my overall knowledge. I graduate in a month from today and want to be hired by graduation time. I'm nervous and excited at the same time.
@josir1994
@josir1994 2 жыл бұрын
remote desktop service is actually present in normal windows (pro), and also some group policy stuff
@cletusthefetus23
@cletusthefetus23 2 жыл бұрын
Pro versions allow a single RDP connection at a time (officially). Server versions allow more than one, and have additional features such as RD Gateway.
@gerowen
@gerowen 2 жыл бұрын
I would actually be VERY interested in seeing how a headless Windows server is managed without all those user interfaces. Last time I set up a Windows server it was server 2003 and the GUI was the default way of doing everything. Since I've gotten very used to doing things headlessly with Linux, I'm curious how a headless server install works. I may set one up in a VM just for kicks.
@martinturner5484
@martinturner5484 2 жыл бұрын
One word. Powershell.
@douglas5097
@douglas5097 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@jwarrior343
@jwarrior343 2 жыл бұрын
Any news? How'd it go?
@linkdorf376
@linkdorf376 2 жыл бұрын
check windows server core edition
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 10 ай бұрын
Powershell. but can also use the Server Manager from another server, or RSAT from even a windows 10 workstation (with server admin permissions setup, typically within a AD domain membership)
@succuvamp_anna
@succuvamp_anna 2 жыл бұрын
Neat video, as someone who has several Windows Server Certifications, you should look into setting up another VM and make a server/client system and learn about Active Directory and Group Policy, that's gonna be what the bulk of your Windows Server installs are, also, the no GUI options is what I normally install on host that need to just do Hyper-V (if the client doesn't let me use VMWare)
@MZZenyl
@MZZenyl 2 жыл бұрын
The Admin Center looks very similar to the Azure portal.
@dhruvakhera5011
@dhruvakhera5011 2 жыл бұрын
isn't azure a service by ms?
@MZZenyl
@MZZenyl 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhruvakhera5011 Yup, Azure is Microsoft's cloud compute platform (similar to Amazon's AWS).
@bernardonegri5416
@bernardonegri5416 2 жыл бұрын
They probably just reused the frontend code.
@scsa20
@scsa20 2 жыл бұрын
They made it similar because it's designed in a way to allow you to tie in with your azure services (if you have any services in azure). It's just to make it more streamlined so you don't have to jump between your local and azure portal.
@GameGeek128
@GameGeek128 2 жыл бұрын
Just make sure you don’t open it up too much… I usually don’t even use it since or block remote access to the web-front since I don’t want people to be able to web browse into my core server… XD I then use a program to MFA access to the server.
@verica4b
@verica4b 2 жыл бұрын
Ahw that reminds me of my bachelor courses about windows server 🥺 I loved it. Edit: from these courses I got my nickname HyperVee
@ahmadjamalmughal47
@ahmadjamalmughal47 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@charliesheehan4577
@charliesheehan4577 2 жыл бұрын
Some schools/colleges give you access to Azure tools for education. Which gives you free licenses to Window 10, 11, Server and many other Microsoft products. I attended two different colleges so I have two difference licensing instances!
@TechViking
@TechViking 2 жыл бұрын
I love how your easy to listen to . I actually learn things from listening to you. Thank You!
@ThatLinuxDude
@ThatLinuxDude 2 жыл бұрын
There is one very minor change you are very likely to miss in Server vs Client: The frown is gone from the bugcheck screen. NOTE: There *is* a client variation of Windows that also does has this change to the bugcheck screen - Japanese Windows
@STG24
@STG24 10 ай бұрын
0:15 nothing, but i know that Linux Server is more important
@lotekchapra
@lotekchapra 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have been running windows server data center as a daily driver for about 2 years now. Its a real disc and the price was like 30 bucks. I have had problems but to be honest i have been able to fix all of them and at this point am gonna stick with it cause my computer doesnt support windows 11. I would think since the support date on server version ends in 2029 its worth it now for those of us who run older hardware.
@lotekchapra
@lotekchapra 2 жыл бұрын
Every problem i run into, i just look it up as if it was a problem with windows 10 or the hardware im using.
@san4th
@san4th 2 жыл бұрын
April 1st is nearing, I'm ready
@ikechukwuodukwe2831
@ikechukwuodukwe2831 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. It was a good overview of Windows Server
@sirBumpyCase
@sirBumpyCase 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I've used Internet Information Services on windows 10 to make an FTP server before (which you noted was only on windows server) I've also used remote desktop, which likely means remote access management is also available.
@cletusthefetus23
@cletusthefetus23 2 жыл бұрын
Remote desktop client is on all versions of windows, so any version of windows can connect to either Pro or server. Pro versions allow a single RDP connection at a time (officially). Server versions allow more than one, and have additional features such as RD Gateway.
@TECHNATION-mw3dp
@TECHNATION-mw3dp 11 ай бұрын
Who all remember this guy have made a video on downloading and expanding RAM 😅
@84Actionjack
@84Actionjack 5 ай бұрын
One benefit is longer support. I'm running Windows Server 2012 which reach end-of-life Fall 2023. Recently moved to Windows Server 2022 and will replace my Desktop with Server 2019.
@RadiusNightly
@RadiusNightly 11 ай бұрын
I was on Windows server 2012 data center for 3 years, and its fine, its not good or bad, better or worst, its just different system for different job, even copying multiple files from multiple drives to multiple locations and drives are done way differently, it makes sense for the server and millions of users, but for workstation consumer its a pure hell. Also Windows 10 LTSC (Enterprise) with optional N variant or generally EU version since 2018 does not have bloatware.
@PanoptesDreams
@PanoptesDreams 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was actually helpful!
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 10 ай бұрын
The server can be configured without the Desktop Environment, the Server Manager has a package called RSAT (Remote Server Administration Tools), to allow for most of the configuration without needing to even sign into the server directly... but do need to be in a domain together.
@syscruncher
@syscruncher 2 жыл бұрын
Licensing for Windows server isn’t always as lenient as desktop Windows. Server 2016 was pretty laid back, but starting with 2019 (haven’t tried 2022 yet) it will let you re-up the trial period a few times, but you will need to activate in order to keep using it. I build a lot of temp servers for work that don’t have a production use, just built and gone in the span of about a month, so we don’t bother activating those.
@skelebro9999
@skelebro9999 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: I think you should do one of your classic 'joke' videos on April 1st
@manuelsalgado9664
@manuelsalgado9664 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Good stuff. Just what I was looking for.
@johnsparozich6839
@johnsparozich6839 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insight as I enjoy your videos . Stay safe!
@Computist40
@Computist40 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I learned about a lot of this in college, well the basics more so and all I can say is that was very enjoyable. I sure learned a lot more then I did before about Windows Server.
@tcbobb1613
@tcbobb1613 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I'm taking Windows Server class.
@Computist40
@Computist40 2 жыл бұрын
@@tcbobb1613 Awesome! :) 👍
@6sicSIX
@6sicSIX 2 жыл бұрын
No, desktop experience includes themes etc The normal install still has a GUI but no themes You're thinking of the core version.
@OgenTech
@OgenTech 2 жыл бұрын
The moment you selected all the roles & features, was the moment i started to cry
@chickywilly
@chickywilly 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙂👍
@draganjovancevic4740
@draganjovancevic4740 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. I was just about to install a test version to learn anoit servers, then i saw your video :)
@Psiphonhub
@Psiphonhub 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone tried windows 9
@Kingvrone
@Kingvrone 7 ай бұрын
Yes
@jamalameen83
@jamalameen83 7 ай бұрын
Overrated
@adasjusk
@adasjusk 6 ай бұрын
Yes Windows 8.1
@FlyRetroGamer
@FlyRetroGamer 6 ай бұрын
Windows 8.1
@CoolPupilgamere56
@CoolPupilgamere56 6 ай бұрын
Well yes i tried windows 9 but stood out a virus
@NotHGM
@NotHGM 2 жыл бұрын
i use alot of dedicated bare metal servers for various things such as game servers, off site backups and more and do use Windows server and other then the Server Manager, i had zero idea about the Admin Center and im glad i know about it know because i always have remote desktop instances up 24/7 for multible diffrent servers to do stuff within the server that now know i can do on the admin center.
@doodleguy5936
@doodleguy5936 2 жыл бұрын
Joe: There is no moving parts, it's not even a big deal if you *drop* it. Unlike hard drives Linus: is that a challenge?
@darrelbryant8632
@darrelbryant8632 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finding this would never have known.
@peytonjanes
@peytonjanes 2 жыл бұрын
1:02 That sponsor segway! 😂😂😂 Like those photos and videos you have totally backed up right? Right?
@TimeWisely
@TimeWisely Жыл бұрын
I use to use windows server 2012 for web hosting, using a software called "IIS" which allows the hosting of web services. It was quite intuitive, but ultimately I decided to switch to a Ubuntu server running Plesk, as the windows server was quite slow compared to Ubuntu.
@JoloNavarro
@JoloNavarro 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info! ❤️
@yy6u
@yy6u 2 жыл бұрын
clarifications: windows server has no oobe and administrator is set to change password after login most of the tools you find as exclusive are actually available as part of RSAT. there's more than what meets the eye when making differences between WinNT and ServerNT session functions in remote control applications are only available on server session 0 isolation which is removed in windows 10 actually behaves like servernt (tested on win7) some applications have checks for servernt and do changes accordingly xp and 2003 (and earlier?) actually have kernel traps for tampering with the system product identification this pc manage launcher opens server manager or computer manager respectively policy differences that can be always enforced windows 8.1 and 10 have made a couple of server only roles/features available to client windows such as hyper-v, active directory light services remote desktop and files server stuff is partially misleading, there's administrative remote desktop and the full set, it's the same software configured differently, and there's also a basic samba file share and there's file services which is dfs, etc same ish but completely different admin center is standalone and can be installed anywhere there's enterprise for virtual desktops which is the only edition circa 2017 that switches to servernt, it's called serverrdsh internally and it's basically rds host in client windows without anything additional!
@yusufaltundal3482
@yusufaltundal3482 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! It was educating and wonderfull.
@marufbepary100
@marufbepary100 2 жыл бұрын
What? Windows Server still exists?! Why would anyone use this when 97% of all servers run Linux?
@gotsm9959
@gotsm9959 2 жыл бұрын
Windows server is is dedicated to networking but not very common today due to Amazon selling cloud computing services.
@UnusedChar
@UnusedChar Жыл бұрын
Windows for servers any time: halt. state your reason for rebooting Regular Windows on monday: welcome back. btw, your services were down all weekend cause I rebooted automatically on friday night, hope you don't mind
@nsg650
@nsg650 Жыл бұрын
There are several more changes between Client Releases and Server Releases of Windows. Server Releases of Windows have a some scheduler changes made compared to Client Releases so threads run for longer. The memory limit too has been increased Server editions can use upto 24TB of physical memory. Server edition can also make use of upto 512 CPUs. There are several other changes made such as prefetch being disabled by default.
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the great videos..
@minuscolochao1557
@minuscolochao1557 8 ай бұрын
2:42 starts
@themusesquad8554
@themusesquad8554 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have a domain controller of windows 2000 server on my local network Built it for fun it was ftp/http/dns/dhcp/router and many other functions. Till the hardwarr got too old to bother with. It wqs clealy a long time ago but it was fun. It didnt have anything connected other than power and network. Only got accessed from Telnet/ssh and remote desktop.
@realIncognitoTGT
@realIncognitoTGT 2 жыл бұрын
6:59 IIS Manager can be found on Windows 11 and 10, you just have to add it.
@ikemuoma8495
@ikemuoma8495 2 жыл бұрын
Good basic overview. Thanks..
@filipwitkowski9966
@filipwitkowski9966 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't noticed about another variation of Windows Server - is called Microsoft Hyper-V Server - this is Windows Server without GUI, dedicated to be as a host for VMs, and what's interesting is completely free, without trial period.
@derthaller
@derthaller 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, there is an Windows Backup Service within the Server, u just need to install this Role/Feature :)
@kienhwengtai8113
@kienhwengtai8113 2 жыл бұрын
Windows Servers are fun they keep working even if you didn't bother activating it, that's applies to pre-Windows10 kernel ones.
@ShopLunchMovie
@ShopLunchMovie 2 жыл бұрын
[A] grade observation with sight of missed programs with possible zones of trouble
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies Жыл бұрын
'Network load balancing manager, though I dont think many of us would have much of a use for that' I dunno, I had to install a switch to get more than one ethernet connection with my Starlink setup... Might be a good learning experience to load balance the setup between the gaming pcs, the work pcs, and the 'tv' pcs (for watching videos and nothing else).. Would surely be a bit of fun!
@princemehra12
@princemehra12 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you so much it knowledgeable video. Keep making these type of video.
@juandavidreyeslopez5163
@juandavidreyeslopez5163 7 ай бұрын
thanks for video !!
@josef1858
@josef1858 2 жыл бұрын
A server is used to provide a service or services to numerous users as opposed to one or two. Ie a Active Directory, DNS, Exchange (email), a database, or a website. Windows server has the added roles and features to complete the aforementioned tasks more effectively. Don't go buying it thinking that it's faster than Windows 10 or 11. It's not, and it's way more expensive. Also there are a lot of desktop applications that aren't compatible on Windows server.
@EvanCastle
@EvanCastle 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't want a carpark under your house (okay, maybe some people do) or a guard desk, elevators, boardroom, or other things that are found in office buildings. You wouldn't want a bedroom in an office. Okay, again, some people do. But I'm sure you get the point. This is why you wouldn't use Windows Server as a home computer operating system. It has services designed to make problems that professional settings have, easier to tackle. Don't come at me with "what about RDS?" That is a solution for using cheap throwaway thin clients and one beefy server instead of many expensive desktops.
@senditall152
@senditall152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you this is really cool.
@windowsfan95
@windowsfan95 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn’t mention is that you also can control your server via Remote Desktop.
@0Zed0
@0Zed0 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because that's not unique to windows server. Pro and Enterprise have it too
@toslaw9615
@toslaw9615 2 жыл бұрын
I am in an IT class so we work with Windows Server and it's in my opinion better than normal 10. There's one difference between us and you, we use Windows Server 2016.
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