What's the BEST home server operating system?

[@procheeseburger_2]

"the linux distro that you're using doesn't matter so much" (pulls out popcorn)

[@asdfssdfghgdfy5940]

Sounds like something an Ubuntu user would say

[@theshazman]

Christian if it wasnt for your videos I would have never gotten the courage and motivation to install linux, portainer, and a ton of containerized services. Our home has been transformed. Greatly appreciate the awesome content you make. Thanks for everything!

[@mikehathaway3659]

The best home server is two servers. One that is a NAS and the other is for Virtual Machines. Proxmox and TrueNAS are what I consider the top option. The reason for this, the NAS is you backup system. Proxmox backs up to the nas. If you only have one machine then you have no backup. I think a lot of people pushing what is the best for everything are leading new homelabbers down the path of data loss.

[@andreu6700]

You can have both on one server, for example in poxmox if you have two discs you can have a backup server on one disk and do the virtualization on the other or simply a raid

[@mnemonic6047]

@@andreu6700 run proxmox / esxi as the main os, and have a hardware raid within the same server, that's where i'm going

[@michaelrogers3857]

Makes sense to me, thanks for the comment, im looking to make a small home server for me and my housemates so we can share school files and also run pihole and a minecraft server for us, im thinking Ubuntu server but im not very adept with the command line so i might just use the normal Ubuntu with the desktop stuff. What do you think?

[@michaelrogers3857]

Makes sense to me, thanks for the comment, im looking to make a small home server for me and my housemates so we can share school files and also run pihole and a minecraft server for us, im thinking Ubuntu server but im not very adept with the command line so i might just use the normal Ubuntu with the desktop stuff. What do you think?

[@adriancoanda9227]

Whst will you do if you have Amprere dev kit hardware 😂

[@eskieguy9355]

I've been using Open Media Vault for a while. One of it's advantages, is that you can take drives with data already on them, and build the NAS around them. Most of the other NAS platforms seem to want to wipe the drives to start with. I also built a small Ubuntu server at work. Thanks to the abundant resources on the web I was able to do it successfully. Although, my advice is to keep track of what you installed when, as you build it (software wise) so that when you screw up, you can redo everything quickly, and if needed, rearrange the packages as you install them. After you're happy with it, there's one or more web gui's for administering it.

[@SensSword]

Use ansible. Never install anything manually.

[@nkreadly1989]

Been going through the same exploration myself for the past 15 years and I am proud to say, we have similar setups. I just wish your content was available then like it is now. Regardless, love your channel. It’s on my top recommendations for family and friends who are interested in this space. Videos are inspiring and keeps me motivated to continue to learn. Thanks for sharing.

[@infotechsailor]

Don’t like his explanation of why he doesn’t like hyper V. Uhhh it had limited features 15 years ago. Well duh

[@the-flatulator]

I self host six domains, two mail servers, dns, pihole for local dns, and more on 4 four old laptops with Proxmox VE. One laptop does all domains, another for dns servers, another for mail servers and a reverse proxy. The last one does two backups per day of all the others. It's simple, has built in UPS (batteries) and uses little power. I use proxmox mail gateway and Proxmox Backup Server. Very reliable. Debian, Almalinux, Alpine are my go to Operating Systems.

[@warker_de]

The recommendation to stop at some point looking for alternatives and go with your Solutions is really one of the Gold nuggets of this video! You'll get to this point after a long and hard journey. If you have too much time, sure take that path but the outcome will be less than using that time to master the Main components. .. And please.. don't jump on every hypetrain! A very good Video!

[@kwiatriot6190]

16:30-17:00 is 🔥🔥. The best tips on the video! Just found you last month, keep up the amazing content! Danke!

[@jannisberry4040]

Thanks man i am trying to build my own NAS system and wasnt really sure how, i looked into TrueNas Core but now that you mentioned TrueNAS Scale i looked up the differences and it is a really great piece of software exactly for what i need.

[@leopard3131]

I have been using Proxmox for years and I highly advise it. The web interface is fantastic and simplifies server management and backups. Personally I use LXC (containers) as they have less overhead than KVM for most internal services. I do use KVM for outward services as Personally I like selinux for security. Speaking of security I think that is a consideration on servers and I would highly advise using selinux or apparmor. Another option if one wants to run a few servers such as a web server is to use one of the various services such as linode. For a basic server they are less expensive than hardware and there is the additional cost in that most internet providers limit upload speed unless you upgrade the basic service. I stopped running windows servers decades ago the cost is too high.

[@Hazmatguy117]

I’ll second that, I’m using an old Dell R610 with proxmox. My firewall, private Minecraft server and other various file sharing/backups are managed from that one hypervisor.

[@MrAwesomeTony]

@@Hazmatguy117 Mine are similar, but I thought about putting firewall in the all-in-boom, but I just got a another chasis and threw my old hardware there to run OPNSense on top of Proxmox. Just what if it got destroyed.

[@dutchcanuck7550]

This video and this comment thread is solid gold for someone starting out in this tech space. My thanks to everyone.

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much 😊

[@matthewbond375]

Building my first Proxmox machine changed everything for me in what I can do, and experiment with, at home. I highly recommend trying it out. You don't need a very powerful machine to spin up your first instance. Just as long as the CPU fully supports virtualization features, which is very common, but not universal.

[@cinemaipswich4636]

I watched 40 hours of videos before I chose a Server OS. While I watched, I learned a lot about what servers were. My needs were modest as as a solo user. Now, in November 2023, I have picked TrueNAS Scale. I could set it up with about 12 stages of implementation, to arrive at something that does the basic things I want. It took me just one day, as a novice.

[@lonxx9473]

I'm currently running my homelab with 2 nodes proxmox cluster, such an amazing and powerful Virtualisation system with all things that I need. It runs containers, VM, and even a virtualized firewall. It runs smooth, no issues. And for Nas, truenas scale is quite amazing too, great performances with ZFS, applications, external backup for my entire homelab

[@c0p0n]

As a devops engineer I deploy a ton of vms and containers and if I'm given the choice, 90% of the time they're running the current Ubuntu LTS. No licensing issues or drama, very well put together and easy to hack into and excellent cloud provider support.

[@donnyxbronson]

I love it to hear a fellow german talking about tech. I personally just use proxmox at the moment

[@MacVilleLP]

I‘m using UnRaid for my HomeServer setup. As NAS, HyperVisor and Docker Host. It‘s fun to work with and a huge Community if there are questions.

[@veneratedmortal4369]

It's the most flexible for my array of old random drives as well.

[@M3PH11]

Unraid is too expensive. FreeNAS scale seems to do a equally good job and is free.

[@veneratedmortal4369]

@@Anuitu2u the unraid file system means most normal people can just throw together an array with old drives they already own. to use ZFS you need alike drives that are decent. That alone makes it cheap. Plus the support it gives makes it worth it. Free is not cheap, unraid is only $60. People need to eat, and need money to develop stuff.

[@Anuitu2u]

@@veneratedmortal4369 then, I'm more cheap than any of that. I didn't know the advantages of unRAID filesystem yet. And, even ProXmox have zfs capability, I didn't use that. Forget about $60, sorry, but my whole setup probably less than that amount money. Maybe, if I use a server scale hardware, unRAID is one of the choice. So, I'm really thankful to the ProXmox developers here, they make a really good product for free.

[@curtispavlovec]

Do you think UnRAID is good to use for a simple home setup with no extra disks or anything? Basically just using the hyper to run several OS not really for the NAS stuff. Any thoughts? $60 isn’t bad and I’m willing to buy just wondering if it’s worth the investment for future use maybe even if I’m not doing much with it now.

[@TazzSmk]

1) pick reliable high capacity storage/NAS prebuilt system, such as Synology, unlike TrueNAS you'll get proper file manager and intuitive users/shares management 2) grab some used PC, make sure to have decent SSDs for ZFS pools, pick Proxmox and start virtualizing, use mapped NFS share from Synology to quickly access installers 3) feel free to virtualize TrueNAS (Scale) in Proxmox, Truecharts are amazing, and with recent 2022.12 TrueNAS Scale release, it's finally possible to bulk-upgrade apps from the GUI

[@GothicPotato2]

Gotta say, this was a fantastic video and I really appreciated the deep walk through on each option and why one might go with each of them. The fact that your choice wasn’t the choice you recommended for starting out, with an explanation of why, just really cemented your credibility. Glad I came across your channel and you’ve earned a subscriber!

[@coollobsterr]

Openmediavault is extremely stable and running continuously on my home server for 3+ years, I have made breaking changes maybe 3 time during initial setup, and once best configuration is achieved, never looked back. Planning to upgrade the complete hardware but will keep the same OS.

[@Boburto]

I agree. OpenMediaVault has been excellent for me.

[@BillboBaggins-j5w]

Thanks, I'm about to build a home sever and don't really need VM and this is the problem that's been running around in my head. Anyone who has built any IT system first time knows you'll end up rebuilding and rebuild as you learn the downside of you first choices. This video helped me a lot even though it's a year old now.

[@christianlempa]

Glad it helped you :)

[@KR1ML0N]

i agree with christian, do whats good for you. There are so many things you can do, its best to determine your needs for hardware and projects and then go from there. Great video!

[@tomstechnews]

Hi Christian. Thanks for the vid! My homelab consists of Proxmox VE+Backup Server (VM, LXC, Docker, Backup) and a Synology (NAS, data-backup, VMs, share+sync Data, video surveillance, Cloud sync., Photos, VPN, Wordpress). Synology is a very reliable, fast and secure homelab solution. All gui managed by DSM. A hint for your next vid: "battle" Synology vs TrueNAS. Have a good time !😀

[@bluesquadron593]

Some folks mentioned Unraid. I would put that on the same level as TrueNAS. Slightly different target group, but what makes it really strong is the huge community behind it. All being said, I have switched to TrueNAS bare matal and Proxmox HA cluster on HP Thinclients myself. I also have few services running in cloud.

[@b.lemire7453]

This is very timely and helpful as I am going to build my first home server this week. Thank you!

[@stephenanthony5923]

Just want to let you and the algo know that this is super valuable content. Thank you!

[@RamaOlama]

- Esxi's biggest issue is, that you need an additional storage server (iscsi etc). - Trunas Scale feels still a bit beta to me and is pretty limited. - Xcp-ng is basically dead anyway, i don't even know anyone who uses that. - Proxmox with zfs/lvm and lxc containers is just brilliant, they even have an mainline kernel, actually 6.1. In my opinion there is simply nothing that can reach Proxmox. Sure there are some missing gui features, like some zfs Management (manage datasets/adding cache/log/vdev) or zfs snapshots is a basic feature that's highly missing. But for that you have cli and zfs autosnap etc. Proxmox allows mapping over mountpoints datasets or any folder directly to vm/container, which is insanely nice. Basically just the gui is a bit limited, but you have all the possibilities over cli and there is nothing you can't realize. Im a really big fan of Proxmox and love what the guys are doing there, especially Lamprecht is doing the most work, glad god he is such a motivated guy. Hopefully he never leaves Proxmox. Maybe im sounding like a small fanboy, but i just love Proxmox, it ticks every wish you have. I have a cluster of 4 Servers btw, 2 of them are at home, main and a small backup, 1 is at my mum and the last one is a dedicated server from hetzner. All connected over opnsense/wireguard. Maybe one thing i would love is, better docker support, since docker and zfs, mhhh... I have docker running in an lxc container, which works excellent, but it took initially a bit to find out the correct cgroup2 rights and module options for zfs etc. This could be made easier, with an additional lxc option (like fuse etc). But yeah, the gui is a bit limiting, however you have the cli! Probably a good way to learn for some either. Cheers

[@soniclab-cnc]

I tried all the other hypervisors over the years but Proxmox just works the best. It totally changed everything. Absolutely love it. I only need one quiet server in my rack and it just runs everything flawlessly. I use an older Asrock board with dual Xeon e5 2690 v2 with 256 gigs of ecc reg. All the parts were used and inexpensive... also have two TrueNAS servers with more than enough disk space. Lots of headroom to play with for my needs. Virtualize everything !

[@kf4bzt]

Hi Christian. Thanks for the video. I am running Proxmox on three workstations in a cluster with HA and TrueNAS Scale on its own workstation. I found the Dell and HP workstations were cheaper and work really well for what I do in my home / lab. I really enjoy your videos and look forward to more.

[@theosky7162]

Building my first home lab. Thanks for ending the argument, finally! Proxmox and TrueNAS for me!

[@troy.s]

Glad I watched to the end for the mention of XCP-ng, though I think it deserved a spot in the hypervisor chapter. IMO, it's a best-of-breed system, especially when combined with Xen Orchestra. Anyone who is serious about using their homelab as a learning platform would be well served by spending some quality time with it.

[@bwood6337]

I REALLY like this video. It's essentially everything I needed and had links for what it didn't include and it didn't take half an hour..

[@christianlempa]

Glad you enjoyed :)

[@swagger1262]

This is truly define my entire cases. From Linux then Proxmox, finally I end up using TrueNAS Scale. Just want a simple home storage server with additional task. After watch this video I know I do not make a wrong decision. Love this video. Thanks for sharing!

[@JasonRice-kt2xj]

Thanks!

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much 😊

[@spstiles88]

I have a ProxMox server at home. I love how easy it is to set up custom containers for things such as my dyndns client, my Home Assistant, piHole, Gitea. And, I can still run virtualized Windows Server, different linux servers or Windows 10 and 11.

[@unsolaci]

Hi Christian, from what I can tell you're running Proxmox and TrueNAS on separate bare metal machines. A year ago you've made a video "How to run TrueNAS on Proxmox?". Have you had any further experience with that since then? I'm thinking of running such a setup myself (Proxmox bare metal and a TrueNAS VM), because I really like what Proxmox offers in terms of VM management, but I also want to manage a ~30 TiB+ NAS. I've found that some people online advise against this specific setup, but not necessarily with any concrete arguments. Would love to hear your take on this if you had some further experience with actually running this kind of setup. Thanks

[@webftpmaster]

Would like to hear your feedback on this as well Christian

[@OfficeofTheCISO]

We have been running proxmox in our local home environments. So far so good.

[@mcwillzz23]

Running a Proxmox cluster with 3 nodes. Main server is an HP ML350 Gen9, network box is a VMWare Edge 680 that's been converted to Proxmox, and third is a micro HP desktop. Most services are running in LXC's, except two. The router/firewall is a full VM and a second vm for Windows that has a GPU for streaming games.

[@lucashan322]

Hi, there, what Architecture diagram plugin did you use in 8:18? It seems an obsidian plugin. so cool.

[@atom6_]

I run proxmox without a single VM, but everything in LXC's, so much more efficient. Regardless, it is an amazing OS.

[@shanefeather-lopez5935]

Brilliant video. The most important tip I understood from all that is to stop looking for alternatives and just dive in - I have stalled on my new home lab project for the last 8 months now simply because I was too afraid of using the wrong thing and having to do it all again.

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much 😊

[@SergeyBerengard]

Hi Christian, not to digress from the main topic, but what was that drawing/planning app you were using at 8:15 ?

[@AbdurrahmanAlkan]

I am wondering the same thing :) Help us Christian :)

[@sligek447]

Excellent advice and explanations. I really enjoyed it. Thanks Christian !

[@christianlempa]

Thanks! :)

[@veneratedmortal4369]

I like unraid for a home server. It has the biggest community and support plus is the most flexible with putting drives in your array. Great on a budget when most people are using old drives of different sizes.

[@NateSmithIsHere]

Hyper-V can do everything AVMware can pretty much do nowadays. WIndows Admin Center you can administrate everything from the web. Powershell can automate the whole management process as well. Just making everyone aware here. It isnt 2008 anymore :).

[@toast-n-jam]

Christian.. THANK YOU for always including Windows. The reality in the real world here in the USA is that many business and Industrial Control Systems are Windows based and experience with those is key to getting those jobs. THANK YOU!!

[@christianlempa]

Thanks :)

[@sirius4k]

I've run Hyper-V for years. It's most likely a hypervisor with the smallest feature set, but it does everything I want, so I'm ok with it. The main reason I like it is that I can manage it PowerShell. The only other PowerShell-enabled hypervisor I know is VMware and I'm not going to run that. But, since Microsoft is no longer releasing free Hyper-V hypervisors past the 2019, I'm most probably going to migrate to Proxmox once the support for Hyper-V 2019 ends. If Proxmox has an API I can use, I'll probably just create a PowerShell module to continue to manage VMs using PowerShell.

[@flywheeldk]

I climbed onboard the SUSE-wagon with SuSE Linux 5.3 and never left. In 2007 I abandoned OS/2 and went all Linux and today I use openSUSE LEAP on desktop, server, laptop and Tumblewed on my phone - all bare metal - all but the phone is driven by level 1 CPUs.

[@geoff650r]

Hyper v server gets a lot easier to manage when you install Windows Admin Center on it, gives you a web UI so you're not required to have Windows 10 pro to get a gui or rely on the terminal.

[@M3PH11]

I'm going to be building a server this year with 128GB of ram and an intel xeon E5 2695 v3. My plan is to do FreeNAS scale (maybe vsphere if i'm feeling rich) as the host and then several VM's, both windows server and linux, to run all sortts of things from AD, DNS and DHCP, to maybe a couple of game server and a security camera system for my flat. This video proved interesting.

[@EdvardHansson]

Proxmox Host NAS with SSDs and Backups. Works very well, and better performance than i expected.

[@Z-GRADT]

I have an ESXi server that's probably over a decade old at this point. I basically wanted one that could do anything, and there weren't many alternatives at the time. I've been using Freenas as a VM under it, but now I'm moving to mainly using TrueNAS Scale on its own server. I like it, but I don't understand what I'm doing most of the time, and find myself just changing different options and checking the logs for errors until I find a combination that works. Containers may be a better way of doing things, but they sure seem a lot more complicated than VM's. It should get easier once I learn what everything actually does.

[@chrisumali9841]

Thanks for the discussion, demo and info, have a great day.

[@Felix-ve9hs]

Debian Linux and Ubuntu Server would also be my first recommendation for a beginner, although I use FreeBSD for all my stuff (which I think is even easier to learn). Windows Server is also a good idea for starting a homelab, especially if you want to get a job as a sysadmin since almost all companies today use it.

[@vilian9185]

how almost all companies use windows server wtf, 96% of the servers use linux, even microsoft itself haha

[@kjsweeney81]

I use FreeBSD on the desktop and NAS at home myself. A lot of the sites I know of and the company I work for use Windows as their primary server OS, though Linux is around.

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

Microsoft put themselves out of this market the day they abandoned Windows Home Server.

[@JamieStuff]

My server is primarily a NAS/Plex server. I started my home lab as a straight Debian system on an old i5-4500 Dell desktop, but that got unwieldy rather quickly. So my options were TrueNAS, OpenMediaVault (OMV), and Unraid. I quickly dismissed TrueNAS, simply because of its lack of expandability. You can't simply drop another drive into the system and expand your storage by that amount. I was seriously looking at OMV; however, it didn't have any kind of data protection against the loss of a drive. I was looking at SnapRAID as an addon to do that, but then I discovered... Unraid. It ticked all my boxes. Built in parity available, VMs, and a Docker repository that I still haven't fully explored. Plus, a very active community willing to help out. Bottom line: Figure out what YOU want to do. Research the options, and find the solution that best fits what YOU want to do.

[@brycestewart3181]

Windows 2016 Server Essentials, Thx for sharing...

[@Silent1Majority]

Clear, honest, informative and well articulated. Thank you.

[@ltonchis1245]

After years of using ProxMox I wasted years trying other Open Source ( app solutions ) then a few months ago when I found out about TrueNas Scale, I stopped looking since they now have about 800 Apps to host! Plus the community is Big so there is Support for each other! so when in doubt just jump in a Discord to ask and people will help! But more than anything thanks to KZbinrs like you! we are able to follow tutorials on what we are trying to achieve :D So yes, ProxMox + TrueNas Scale =

[@pomp0m]

My Current home-lab: NAS Synology, that thing already runs a raid array for 18 years, the disks and shell (new unit) changed at times but the array only expanded and kept stable. Synology for me is the 'keep for stability' choice. No bitrot or broken files on the data yet. XCP-NG + Xen Orchestra community. I tried ESXI and Proxmox 2 times at home but never got it in the way i wanted, and Xen for me just naturally flows the correct way. The biggest benefit is that it keeps the 'don't set to much' attitude and true 'no master node' of ESXI but it's still open source and gives possibility of adjusting it to your hand like Proxmox. Also the Proxmox in my setup allot of times broke or wasn't stable, (can't shut down a vm, hangs in commands, masternode not available so searching where the ui is). On the VM's i run RedHat and Ubuntu, Also some Debians but those are mostly TKL (turn key linux) templates because that helped me allot in the early days. Docker is still normal docker and haven't yet tried Kubernetes, All is still Automated via Ansible and a little bit (XEN) via Terraform is in the works, no full migration yet.

[@rockymarquiss8327]

What about xcp-ng? What is your thought on this? How about Harvester?

[@tdunn2]

Synology. Been using their NAS’s for over a decade. Its Disk Server Management OS runs a Debian fork.

[@mahkhi7154]

There's a Reason Why Ubuntu is Easy to Use. It's the Darlik Mackintosh Guys. Arch Linux is for their Valve PlayStation. (They're XFCE) Darlik IBM / Oracle is Redhat / Fedora. (Gnome / GTK) Windows is SUSE / KDE (Qt) and Sun Microsystems / HP is Debian (CDE) The PlayStation Guys are FreeBSD (FLTK). They Also do Android. They're the Big 5. There's Houndreds of Little Techies. They Make the Houndreds of Linux Distributions, Such as Linux Mint and Mandriva. E.t.c.

[@SkashTheKitsune]

one thing I have learned by watching dumpster fires in motion is... DIY is always going to save you money... and after seeing someone cry over a $100k bill from Amazon for their cloud based solution it rings ever more loudly, self hosting and if you are a company co-location. If you are a family, buy one of those IBM desktops with 6 SATA outputs and a few IO things and you will find it to be quite fruitful when you sit down with a pen and paper and decide what you want the server to be. ALSO!!! second hand with brand new HDD and a SSD for a boot drive will in fact make you appreciate the results because... they will just work, this is my first linux box and it's an enjoyable learning experience.

[@markkoops2611]

This is a great video, so far I've settled on Windows but this does present a great argument on alternative options

[@guesswork8332]

Very insightful. Thanks dude.

[@christianlempa]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gcvrsa]

What's best for your is going to be what works best with the productivity OS(es) you use, but my default answer would be TrueNAS running on a RAID 10 system using ZFS with ECC memory. The most important feature for a home server is archival data storage integrity. Everything else should be considered secondary to that purpose. Unfortunately, systems that actually support ECC memory cost a ridiculous amount of money for what they are. Secondarily, some form of network appliance box running a lightweight version of Linux, like a Raspberry Pi or a "NUC" type tiny PC, which I use to run Pi-hole.

[@LucS0042]

Looking forward to that tour!

[@shanduur]

I am using Proxmox, althoug I am planing to move to XCP-ng when I buy/build a NAS.

[@solverz4078]

An in depth video on backup for Truenas Scale apps would be interesting and a great idea 💡 ☺

[@Theborg72]

thanks.. always fun to see your clips and ideas, can agree with you on this choice both with proxmox and truenas, looking forward to the next upload

[@be1m0nt]

a long time ago I used esxi , but after it began to be installed only on corporate hardware, I switched to kvm... thx for proxmox, looks amazing il try it

[@SmeetsDieter]

Looking forward to you next video!

[@intelligentherolee6687]

If you want a powerful router that runs on your server, then try OpenWRT, which is a distribution of Linux, just like Proxmox, and the OpenWRT itself has lots and lots of distribution as well. Besides, istoreOS, which is one distribution of OpenWRT developed in China, is a user-friendly operating system for router, NAS and docker.

[@maginos1310]

I personally like the idea of using Intel Nucs as Raspberry Pi alternatives and instead of PiOS I use Proxmox to bring some applications (Adguard, unbound, tvheadend, zabbix, etc.) to my internal network. On my Backup Server I use OMV, just because I wanted to have a GUI on my backup server. My main server runs unraid for over two years now and I'm totally happy with it. I also like the helpful and friendly unraid community. 👍

[@magnuswright5572]

Intel NUC is probably cheaper than RPi right now too...

[@maginos1310]

@@magnuswright5572 Yes. And ebay is flooded with Nucs. At least here in Germany.

[@Anuitu2u]

What the advantages of Intel NUCs than micro Dell Optiplex with the same gen processor? Well, not counting the Celeron NUCs, isn't the Micro Optiplex is better? NUCs is overrated. And, I believe the Optiplex is abundance in my country than the NUCs.

[@maginos1310]

@@Anuitu2u the footprint of the Nuc is smaller. And I don’t know how it is with the Dell, but with the Nucs you have very good control over the fan curve in the BIOS. That’s very important for me, since I want them to be as quiet as possible. When I buy a Nuc from eBay, I first open the device, clean the fan and renew the thermal paste. Then I go into the bios, and then I adapt the fan speeds to my needs. After this, the Nuc is totally quiet. And I’m not sure, how good you can do that with the Dell. I think the differences between these devices are marginal, so if you prefer the Dell over the Nuc, then go for it.

[@Ultimaus]

I think it really comes down to the definition of full crazy. If your job is in IT or potentially in IT. I think it makes great sense to deploy several servers depending on if your field is more cyber security based/network based or more systems administrator/programming based or you're a dev ops guy. I personally have a bunch of proxmox VMs but i know you wont see proxmox in the wild so I would spin up esxi just to keep the vmware navigation skills sharp. At the end of the day our interests will be attracted to a certain aspect of IT and ultimately what we alliw for ourselves is subject to budget and availability. But really this is just a really round about way to say the best way to do something is get all the things xD

[@canadianwildlifeservice8883]

I agree with the comment about Proxmox being less enterprise friendly than ESXi. I found Proxmox to be intimidating, but installing a desktop environment such as Mate right on the host machine itself made setting up VMs bit easier without the need to log in from another PC to do basic tasks and is more secure if you just want to allow logins from the "localhost" using the desktop environment.

[@prashlovessamosa]

Your channel is heaven to me.

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much :D

[@virtualjoedub]

Great content and presentation! Love your energy! Cheers!

[@christianlempa]

Thanks so much!

[@mrnmrk6191]

Hello everyone, I can talk as experience on using Proxmox on a Raspberry Pi4b 8GB with the unofficial version of PIMOX. First of all, it does not have 100% of proxmox functions, but virtualization works very well. I am able to run a NAS OMV debian VM with just 2GB of dedicated ram + swap and on the same time i run an allthemod "slop" modpack minecraft server with over 100 mods in another VM with 7GB of ram dedicated + swap. I would say hands down its a great start if you want to learn about virtualization and mostly if you want to learn how to use proxmox, or just play with VLANs etc

[@TheToe94]

what scetch software you're using @8:28 ?

[@christianlempa]

It's excalidraw

[@felixinit]

Great vídeo as an introduction for setting home servers. Hypervisors Proxmox and NAS (Network Attached Storage)

[@christianlempa]

Thanks!

[@jaguarke069]

Hello Christian, thanks! What ‘visio’ software are you using at 8:17? It looks neat!

[@nadien1958]

i have used Win 4.0 Client Server and loved it. tried the Win 5 server but didn't like the changes

[@HDSpaceFox]

my home server for ssh and apache is running linux-mint but i am also using it as a media center for watching movies or emulators on the projector. and it has a direct connection to a synology NAS with 4 drives. for all my photos from my photography hobby. as you said there is no perfect solution. but this works amazingly well.

[@vezajin7738]

Thank you for describing my own setup perfectly! :D Proxmox on my actual server with an Ubuntu VM and an rPi just running its own OS + docker

[@mandalorian2010]

I use QEMU/KVM and it doesn't disappoint. I feel like I have so much more control and i can load the Distro that i want on top of the hypervisor. Plus its a hybrid hypervisor in that it is technically type 2 but runs JUST like a type 1. I have had ZERO issues. Tons of different interfaces (CLI, Libvirt for desktop UI, and Cockpit for web UI) it's simple and yet powerful

[@ukasztokarski2833]

That is the best overview of so many versatile tools and solution. Thank you so much for you wonderful, hyper-Informative ;-) content.

[@OlindoPindaro]

I have a n100 based home server. Definitive 4 core is to low to approach Proxmox. So i use Ubuntu and docker implenting my Nas with zfs. Few software player to incresed efficiency

[@averagedev7768]

Today we had a discussion at work to go full Ubuntu Server, so thats why this video was recommended to me porb (google listens to everything) But what we do at work, we use Windows Server 2022 instances that run HyperV and then we start Ubuntu Server machines on theme. That way we cover all licence agreements with MS and also have the ability to centralise management using remote desktop form the IT center

[@Patryk122PL]

TrueNas on Proxmox. Best of both worlds IMHO. With nesting you can have dedicated VMs or containers inside TrueNAS or like I do both and LXC containers as well as normal VMs all on one Proxmox server. A little complicated to configure, but once you do it, then it just works.

[@somdobomk]

I went down the home server rabbit hole a few years back and couldn't settle between Proxmox, TrueNAS, and Unraid so I have 3 Dell R710's running one of each OS . I went from testing them to just leaving them and using all 3. Unraid is kinda my main one since it handles everything that needs to stay on 24/7. Proxmox is for all my VM's and testing of OS's and updates. TrueNAS is my storage that has a Dell PowerVault MD1220 attached. Dell R210II is my pfSense firewall. I have a Dell R430 that I don't use for anything since I have no clue what to use it for. A small 1U for Guacamole server. I have all the iDRAC's setup but sometimes I just want to manage them from the rack itself so I use the Dell 1U monitor and the Dell 2U KVM. 10Gb NIC on all the servers with CAT 6A throughout the whole house.

[@bluesquadron593]

Sounds like you need a small powerplant to run these bad boys.

[@JimmYJammA2099]

Thank you for your videos, please keep sharing your knowledge!

[@christianlempa]

Thanks, will do!

[@kotgc7987]

I concur Proxmox (which runs on KVM) is the most intuitive and works well. Running a VM router removes the need for a hardware router. Unfortunately, Proxmox would only allow a main OS to run as a VM, which may under perform. Perhaps a better setup is your main OS is a Linux distribution and then run a KVM for a VM router. The main OS needs access to the Internet only via the VM router for firewall protection as I think the main OS default IP tables won't protect enough with direct access to the Internet.

[@rawswedegaming]

I use Hyper-V and there no problem to administrate it, if u know powershell its so easy to automate and configure it

[@frankgarcia5058]

I'm glad i found your video and for sharing your experience. Thanks

[@rbartsch]

My favorite is running a Yunohost VM in Proxmox. 😉

[@peakminute]

Finally someone said the truth: there are too many choises and you have to try several, pick what you like and settle, run with that and master everything about it .

[@christianlempa]

Thx! Good feedback :)

[@peakminute]

@@christianlempa Cheers :)

[@DrD6452]

I use OpenBSD pf for my router/firewall, TrueNAS Core for storage, Windows Server for Group Policy with an iSCSI connection to TrueNAS, CentOS and Windows 10 for desktops with a mix of Cisco and Edgemax PoE switches and VirtualBox for VM's. Soon going to be building a TrueNAS Scale box for Docker apps. It's quite the mix mash of hardware and software cobbled together over the years.

[@IronRex]

I completely agree that at some point you should stop choosing and start using. It is not perfect. That's OK. Use what you made. Make something else. You can always return for more later.

[@entelin]

I've been deploying TrueNAS systems (their official hardware) for small office clients. It's one of the most inexpensive ways to get safe local storage and replicate offsite to a cloud provider or zfs-send/recv to an offsite backup server. When needed I'll run a windows server VM on it and/or linux vm. It's a good, inexpensive alternative to getting a full server from dell/hp.

[@My-noname]

Have you ever looked at Zentyal? It's kind of a Linux SBS, taking care of infrastructure as well as storage an virtualization.

[@christianlempa]

No, it’s not something that makes sense for my setup.

[@My-noname]

@@christianlempa same here but a nice starter home server.