WINDSCREEN LEAKING? - UNSEALED JOINTS Citroen Relay, Fiat Ducato, Ram Promaster

We discover rain water entering our van and suspect the windscreen or scuttle panel.
We discover unsealed joints beneath our window rubber seal.
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[@JPLamoureuxsTravels]

I subbed after the first 30 seconds lol 😂 Bollocks indeed! Good info mate....

[@vanlifemyway7806]

🤣 used a few other edited expletives as well JP. It's Nicky, aka "Tammy Terets" you want to look out for.... Thank you for watching and do let me know how I'm doing and if I can improve any. Paul

[@JPLamoureuxsTravels]

@@vanlifemyway7806 lol 😂 i would have too! going to check my van now!

[@mrkrotosuk]

I am about to remove my bonnet, wippers and scuttle to do a full reseal. Thinking of using sikaflex ebt+ for the job :)

[@vanlifemyway7806]

That'll do the job, thank you for watching and I hope the vlog was of help.

[@dermalessenceaesthetics8052]

I’m leaking in so I’m going to try this. Thank you for the video

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Your welcome, I hope it solves your problem. Do let us know if it works. Ariel is perhaps the most common place of entry, have you looked there?

[@yak9147]

Well done sir. Also ,one can use the hose quite precisely in the process of leak elimination instead of waiting for rain.

[@martinrobinson2996]

Nice pj's

[@vanlifemyway7806]

😆

[@PANTYCELYN]

The scuttle panel on my 07 has shrunk significantly, between 5 and 10%, and as a consequence, the fixing clips, which have also degraded, no longer align with each other. This panel overlaps in the middle but due to the aforementioned shrinkage mine now doesn't, when securely fixed at the outer ends. Water was able to destroy the wiper motor and for a while we thought that the very expensive ecu needed replacement also. I'm planning to use Tiger seal and bodge it back into service as a cheap fix. Owners of older vans would be wise to pop the bonnet (hood) and inspect the integrity of this 'trough'

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Hi TR. mine is luckily the 2015 facelift with most of your problems already addressed with a 1 piece panel and covers over all the prone areas. Saying that that "bloody" hidden seal had bugger all sealant on it.

[@SamMajor]

im about to buy a ducato tomorrow and im hoping it doesnt have this issue too badly yet!

[@vanlifemyway7806]

I'm not sure it's too common Sam, it's usually the scuttle panal on older models that's reported problematic. However, if all are built like mine, I'm supprised it's not more of a problem.

[@ktd2956]

This is a very common fault on the Citroën Relay, Peugeot boxer and fiat ducato,if not adressed,the water leaking in will "weld" your injectors to the head with rust. I had a Citroën Relay with this problem, and i have just bought a 2018 Peugeot boxer, and it too has this problem. If you have one of these three vans, check it now,or you could end up with some very expensive repairs down the line,im just going outside to seal the scuttle on mine now.

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Thank you for bringing this to light, however, this wasn't the usual and well reported scuttle panal problem that's usually more so specific to pre- 2014 models that have a split scuttle panal. This was unsealed joints between the A pillars and bulkhead as described in the vlog hence producing the vlog.

[@michaelmartin500]

Well done Inspector Clueso, I've recently seen another utube video by a guy who had rusty injectors in his Ducato caused by water coming into the engine bay via the bottom of his windscreen, obviously a design fault in these vans if you hadn't sorted that leak it could have turned your lovely van into a rust bucket👍👍

[@vanlifemyway7806]

🤣 thank you Michael, it was a problem that didn't seem to follow the usual "leak into the engine bay" problems. My van being a 2015 had improvements made to pretty much stop these problems so it did become quite a process of elimination. I was surprised what I found but glad it was an easy fix and no real harm was done.

[@gnarlybadger690]

Great real world problem solved thanks for sharing

[@vanlifemyway7806]

My pleasure Peter. Hope it helps someone else scratching their heads for weeks. 😆

[@BearsAboard]

Glad you found where the water was coming from. How many others are out the leaking I wonder. See you guys soon 👍😂

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Me too. 3 months of no progress..... hey, loving the latest production and editing on your vlogs....very, very noticeable and captivating.

[@guysmith3950]

Cheers for taking the time to experiment and post the results. I'll be having a look at ours in the summer, when we have the wings off to lanoguard the nooks and crannies up the front. Thanks.

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Thank you for your kind comments Guy. I take it you have a similar problem? I'd exhausted all of the common complaints so this did need a bit of extra investigation. I was surprised to see zero sealant on that seam and wonder was is it the 'norm' or a genuine factory mistake? Anyway, all's good now and no corrosion.

[@guysmith3950]

@@vanlifemyway7806 no sir. Just the usual damp injectors. Again something to be looked at come the summer. Cheers once again.

[@vanlifemyway7806]

@@guysmith3950 you'll sort it. That pro less well documented. I may be tempted to keep regularly spraying WD40 at those injectors just in case one day they may need to come out.

[@springy120453]

Great vid, I'm doing preventive maintenance now. One bit I can't catch is when you say what I hear as "I unbolted the wing tops....". Is that correct?

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Hey Neil, many thanks for watching and glad you reached out. There is an obvious bolt at the top of the wing behind that black plastic trim in front of the mirror.... that just pops off. Unduing it and slightly prizing back the upper part of the wing gave me the access I needed to easily find, check and seal those seams. Best wishes, Paul

[@vanlifemyway7806]

😂 Thanks for watching. The forecast was torrential after a dry spell so saved me the bother.... and metered water. Best wishes, Paul

[@davidquintoantonio952]

Impressive how this issue was not fixed in the late models. Had my fuse box and ECU damaged due to this same problem on a 2010 model.

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Hey David, I have to admit all the earlier model issues appear to have been addressed. I have no water heading toward the injectors, the wiper motor has a cover and the scuttle cover is 1 piece....that's why it was a process to find this problem. The issue turned out to be unsealed framework. All sorted now 👍

[@sinewaymusic]

​@@vanlifemyway7806Are you saying that this problem only applies to older models? When was the problem addresses by the factory, on what year model?

[@vanlifemyway7806]

@@sinewaymusic hi, this is a 2016 face-lift model which had already had the "leaking on to engine" problem addressed by factory with the introduction of a 1 piece scuttle panel. This is a whole new thing all together! My Van leaked so much that it had to be a factory overlook as the join I found was totally exposed to the elements. However, I see many people complaining how corroded their steps are when removing the plastic trim.... this is an area where the ingression can choose to exit quite unnoticed perhaps.

[@ianross04]

Spooky, i found iut about this issue a few weeks ago so bought some sealant and sealed all the lower part of where the windscreen meets the plastic trim and water drainage. I habe an 8month old fiat ducato camper so wont take any chances (unless theyve sknce addressed the issue prior to me buying my van

[@vanlifemyway7806]

I think where you have sealed... it was only an issue pre-2014 when the scuttle panel was 2 piece. Making it 1 piece improved that problem so don't worry too much. Best wishes, Paul

[@robertanderson-yx8mo]

Ive got the same problem on my 2013 ducato the water is causing me issues in the engine compartment electrics when it rains.im goting to seal mine up tomorrow after watching with

[@vanlifemyway7806]

2013 Rob, it could be the more common split scuttle panal that you can either seal up or replace with a 2014+ one. Check also your drainage holes and make sure the pipes aren't blocked. Apart from that I hope the video helped. Best wishes, Paul

[@robertanderson-yx8mo]

@@vanlifemyway7806 the water rains in .the main drain was full of mud ! It covers the fuse board to the engine .I've got a big job on my hands here

[@vanlifemyway7806]

On a good dry day, if it still exists, give you're fuse box a good spray with "damp start". I know this problem has been covered many times before which involves cleaning your drains, sealing your skuttle panal and fitting a cover/diverter over your fuse box. You appear to have caught it before it can ruin your fuse box so well worth the work.

[@loadinglevelone]

Has this issue been fixed on newer models. Which year range is prone to have this problem?

[@vanlifemyway7806]

Thanks for watching and thanks for reaching out to us. This is not the most documented problem, rather the scuttle panel leaking causing water to flood the engine and specifically corroded the injectors making them ni impossible to remove. The manufacturer remidied most of these problems with the face-lift from 2013-14. My problem doesn't seem documented which I hope is, therefore, an isolated problem. However, if I have had this problem I expect others may have too. If so it would affect the whole product range. Who knows, perhaps mine was a 4.45pm Friday model and Jean Pierre had overdone the Carte de Jour? Best wishes, Paul

[@thebeardedgeordiephotography]

My 15 plate ducato is dripping in from the passenger side top of the windscreen. But, its dripping from between the panels where they are spot welded together. Also a drip from the same seam mid van. Ive seam sealed the whole length of the roof, painted it and also siliconed the windscreen.... still dripping! Im at me wits end 😅

[@vanlifemyway7806]

I had absolute nightmares! You've checked your arial antenna? They're renowned to leak. Apart from that, that's where you may be seeing it but it could be coming in anyware. Good luck and let us know when you get it sorted.

[@thebeardedgeordiephotography]

@vanlifemyway7806 I haven't tried there but as I can park it leaning to either side and the water only drips from that 1 spot in the seams, it has to be somewhere in the factory sealant bead thats allowing water into the seams and running down the front of the van. Bloody frustrating as it's holding up my camper conversion

[@vanlifemyway7806]

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