WING DAW Update

Sound Engineer Ben Booker, who has worked in the studio and on tour with some of the biggest and most exciting acts on the planet, talks us through the latest DAW control update on the Behringer WING. Covering Mackie and HUI protocols, compatible DAW's, surface customisation and much more!
Download the update here:
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For more information on the Behringer WING mixing console and to check for the latest firmware:
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[@EqDior]

Reaper would be nice to add to the group. The Behringer wing is such a amazing device.

[@teknomaatix7654]

I saw a different video with Reaper in the list! Its around somewhere. I will send a link if you'd like.

[@Philip_J]

You can see at 3:40 how Reaper is already there.

[@LeonPhythian69]

Pro Tools set up and workflow with the Wing would be a lovely video

[@macscope]

You sell a lot more wings now been waiting for this good job Behringer.

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

Totally agree! Most of us want a DAW controller, not a live mixer.

[@teknomaatix7654]

YEP. Count me in!

[@LeonUnger]

@@teknomaatix7654 me too

[@RockVoice4Real]

That is a beautiful mixer and it looks very user friendly to me.

[@MikeSadlerAU]

I'd love to see Harrison Mixbus32C added to the DAW's list... what a combination THAT would be!

[@Raw_id]

The Wng appears to be limitless. I'm going to have to invest in one. Thanks for the guidance.

[@markfitzgerald1192]

This thing is absolutely amazing...I hope you will support Samplitude. In my dreams there will be a Midas Wing with 96kHz , the Midas faders and a truly daylight viewable screen. The fact that the screen now lifts out from the Behringer gives me hope that enough heat sink can be applied to be viewable in even direct sunlight....The price would be almost irrelevant. All the best, and "smile with your eyes"!

[@drekool]

I'd like to see a video with Wave Superrack Performer using the DAW controls

[@Groovetrapped]

Can we use the wing touchscreen as part of daw integration as well? for ex, editing eq, vst plugins using the touch screen?

[@teknomaatix7654]

Wow! I never thought of that. What an amazing question! That would be just plain VICIOUS! If not now, in future DAW mode firmware updates. Hope this gets answered!

[@Vibekilla]

@@teknomaatix7654 agreed!!! Please!!

[@DJRudi55]

A preset for Samplitude and Reaper would be great, and a good documentation for how I use the Wing effects in my DAW

[@LiamTTSmith]

I'm also looking forward to a reaper preset

[@teknomaatix7654]

Samplitude is often ignored or not priority. I too would like to know the same. I have not seen the Wing in action controlling any DAW to see how well it is integrated. I will keep looking. If I find something I will let you know. If you do, please post on here if possible.

[@teknomaatix7654]

There is another video that shows Reaper in the preset config list, so it is out there. Let me know if you want a link.

[@teknomaatix7654]

@@LiamTTSmith Reaper is available!

[@LiamTTSmith]

@@teknomaatix7654 oh cool!

[@SVTtaurus]

Now if only they would offer a more compact version of the wing (like A&H SQ 5 vs SQ 7). I'm totally sold on this now with this update but just don't have enough space for this form factor.. frustrating.

[@markgabbidon5859]

I just bought Behring wing for my studio after this feature was added. I am absolutely impressed with the quality and flexibility of the desk. It has revolutionized our studio. I will have to do a video sometime about it. Couple of things missing for me is: 1. We should be able to output a Matrix to Main. I have no way of monitoring a Matrix bus which i setup to operate as a main bus. All other buses have the ability to output to main, but not a Matrix. 2. Need a way to power off the wing without having to reach behind the console every time. I built it into a desk and its a difficult reach.

[@behringer]

Thanks Mark, I forwarded your suggestions to the Dev team!

[@leonardgoulet5864]

How is the overall sound and mic pre's in the mixer?

[@shaneomac151]

@@leonardgoulet5864 amazing! Worth every penny! They sound pro level to me!

[@pascaldugue72]

I agree... Support for Cakewalk by BandLab would be really appreciate.

[@teknomaatix7654]

You are correct and in luck my friend. It is supported. Let me know if you want a link.

[@basementmidi]

Great video! Thank you for posting. Can we please get a preset for Cakewalk by Bandlab. Also a tutorial on how to use the Wing's built in effects with a DAW.

[@RayR]

I use Cakewalk and would love to have The WING work with it also.

[@cesarsalgan5235]

Hi, Any news on changing and recalling the scene via MIDI? I was changing scenes and snippets on the X32 via MIDI. An App for Mac like X32-Edit would also be very important since I don't have an iPad to use Copilot Thanks a lot

[@SaylorTwift]

Also could use an ableton live preset, thanks! Love my wing so far!

[@benirodriguez9516]

Using it to control a daw, and thus record instruments via its pre's... would the DSP effects be pre- or -post? Meaning, that when you record something with, say compression... is this compression baked in on the recorded track, or is it on a layer of its own allowing further edit, and or change with another compressor we might prefer from the computer? (not sure I put it correctly as English isn't my first, nor second language, but I hope is understandable what I mean).. thanks in advance.

[@tmjensen69]

Propellerhead Reason DAW .. then I will buy Wing in december..;-)

[@keazee01]

will it works with luna from universal audio , will it recognize the audio unit as native instruments gear recognize it via nks ?

[@walkerharris3619]

I would love to be able to control Qlab for theatre. This board is perfect for it.

[@tangentlimited6007]

Is the Midas M32 going have an extended DAW control soon? where you can use all the faders in DAW mode?

[@RowlandSunday]

Pls do a video on how to use this console as summing with a DAW

[@swilleyhillcog9509]

We are running our livestream audio from the WING 48channel USB out into our DAW (Studio One). Here is what I would like to do. During our services we will adjust certain vocals up and down on volume levels depending on who is singing the lead part at any given time. Can I also control the volume levels in my DAW from the WING console and if so, how? Thanks

[@cassispruill1012]

Are you guys going to set up ablation link. That will be really nice. I’ve been a Behringer user since the DDX 32/16. And you guys always came with the heat, but now I’m a full Mobile producer. And I will like to see you guys be the Leader of a new age.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Really interested in getting one of these....

[@carlosoki1]

Hello friends of behringer, greetings from Chile ... will this update be available for the x32 in the future? thank you teachers ...

[@behringer]

Hello Carlos, if you have ideas for X32 you could suggest or vote for new features in our development Trello: trello.com/b/Pky6BO3J/xm32-series-feedback-fw-402

[@kichoforrest]

After automating your i in Logic will the wings faders follow the automation on the CPU? I know there motorized but I had to ask LOL

[@cityjaytv7631]

Please make a video with logic pro x using the plugins and how to stet up the behringer wing I would love to buy but need help

[@leonardograndoni4081]

Good job guys!

[@AndrewKeithRussell]

Presonus brags on Touch Sensitive Faders, how do they compare to the Behringer faders (BTW are they Midas Pro faders?)

[@MadelnMachines]

Can you run your inputs through the Wing EQ, Comp, and other effects then output 48 mono channels into your DAW using the USB 2.0 soundcard but controlling the faders in your DAW at the same time?

[@pauliseye9225]

yes please let us know... looking for this answer as well

[@youowemeapony]

If it's 48 channels, you can probably either do 24in 24 out or 48 in. Never used the wing, but that's typically the deal... Never heard of usb doing that many channels in and out.

[@jeha1852]

How do I connect the wing to a DAW (Studio one) so that I can lead the individual tracks to the console, mix them and return them individually?

[@youowemeapony]

I'd imagine that the USB channels could be assigned as either inputs or outputs. Assuming you have the I/O on the wing set up correctly, you should be able to use pipeline to send/receive the signal and deal with delay compensation

[@nathanieljohnsonjr775]

This is amazing, also please add Ableton Live 10 Preset

[@valenciaonthebeat]

Amazing product. Please make a video on how to set it up in FL STIDIO (fruity loops)

[@mpsoundlight9043]

Hey behringer. I would like to use behringer wing with ACID, can you add this funkcion in another FW? Thanks.

[@notdaones]

Wondering if you can control S1 stock plug ins directly from the console screen

[@matthewgetsi506]

What about Cakewalk?

[@behringer]

As far as I know Cakewalk supports HUI therefore all faders, channels, automation, mute etc. will work out of the box. Only for the Custom Control Section you will probably either create your own preset or start with a preset and modify it to your liking.

[@harrypatterson8802]

For the many x32 users....will there be an update for mcu + extenders?

[@teknomaatix7654]

Wondering the same. It has been soooo long since the X32 has been out, I doubt it though. If it was gonna happen, it probably already would have by now. I think the Wing IS the update? I was looking at an X32 vs this Wing Console. So far the only thing I am tripping over that the X32 has is the color. White and black and gray and brown? Huh?

[@teknomaatix7654]

Hi Ben and Behringer. How much control of FL Studio is possible in the current DAW mode? If I am not mistaken, it uses the MCU protocol. I assume any DAW that recognizes and utilizes MCU can be controlled. Is this correct? What about Magix Samplitude? Will there be a preset for it soon? These are my 2 main DAWs and if so I am ALL IN and give great appreciation for this! I noticed the Pro Tools icon wiggling in the bottom right corner? Can PT be controlled using the HUI protocol? Will we see any videos of some of these DAWs in action being controlled by the Wing? It would be nice to see how well it functions as a near Universal control surface. Things like automation writing with touch and latch modes. Is this possible? Are the faders touch sensitive? If its good. I am sold and you guys would be answering MANY MANY great needs for MANY producers/engineers/studio owners, etc!

[@wolfpackrecordingstudiollc8718]

Can you make a video that shows how to send the individual channels and buses from pro tools to the console using the wing live

[@VTOLKits]

Not sure you said it, Ableton Live and Propellerheads Reason would be nice to control also.

[@behringer]

Hi there, Ableton settings are in the update, the wing will be compatible with any DAW that can use the Mackie or HUI protocols. We don't have settings for all DAW's yet but we are working hard to bring them to you soon.

[@teknomaatix7654]

@@behringer You guys are getting more awesome by the minute. I am falling in LOVE with the Wing more and more everyday! Please do not stop listening to and talking with us. Keep the updates coming!

[@funkiefreezer]

would be great to have the inputs to be linked directly to cubase. as we setup the channels to send to the computer it takes directly the information settings from the desk. also control for davinci resolve as a fairlight controler would be amazing to help mix our video sounds.

[@GianfrancoSeminario]

Can you do a video explaining in detail the AP90 etc filters on the eq

[@cassispruill1012]

Mobile producer. I love this mixing board so much. I just bought a computer. Running studio one Sphere. Can you guys do or how to On studio One. I also got other DAW like Cuba’s 11, studio is going to be my go to. PS can I use a X32 as a Extender. Will that work?

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Requests: 1.) Nuendo & Cubase Pro separate walkthroughs with the Wing 32 (I have to hop between 2 locations: 1 for audio for voice-overs + music & 1 for Video focused audio and scoring.) 2.) When will the Wing Rack be available for us? I am both frustrated with having to reaquaint myself to the different boards at the locations AND have NO intention of lugging around the entirety of an entire board, when I can make due with some Behringer X-touches & throughput from an X32 Rackmount "STYLED" version of the Wing.... all which can be stored in my current mobile rack solutions.

[@uselessoldman7964]

I have been trying to decide which integrated mixer/audio interface/Daw controller to buy (All in One), AH QU32, QSC Touchmix 30 Pro, Presonus and then we have the X32 and Wing. I would really like to know if the Behringer DAW will have the same default effects built in as their mixers do similar to Presonus. Will there ONLY be a free version, one for the X32 and a different one for the Wing? If the DAW does not have the same effects as the mixer or there not to the same quality then WHAT IS THE POINT? Clearly with the Wing, Behringer mean business in big way, its their first real big boys toy that takes on all on EQUAL terms. I would like to know more before I decide, if you record wet can you then control/change manipulate any used effects/plug ins using the DAW or will you have to route from the DAW back through the Wing to edit the effects/plug ins used and then back out again to the DAW? Clearly with USB4 coming out soon that should open up the bandwidth considerably between mixer and computer, WHAT ARE Behringers plans for USB4 implementation if any especially for the Wing? Will the DAW support surround sound? as in 7.1? Something Studio One does NOT do. IT would be great if the screen was detachable so you can wonder round with it and know its easier to replace when the thing dies on you rather than a nasty expensive repair bill some time in the future. Also potentially offer an option to upgrade it to something BIGGER !!

[@NicolasHosford]

Pro Tools and Ableton, please!

[@hanzfm]

Hi, im trying to activate the 'return to zero' function in my remote control but it's grey, not available. Is there a way to activate it? i use Cubase 12 pro

[@TheXIT]

Hi Is the DAW Feature supported for DIgital Performer 11?

[@WolfManDon93]

I really need help with getting Ableton Live up and running with this desk.

[@crashedsite]

Where is the FL Studio DAW control on the Wing as shown in this video?

[@TheRangeControl]

Wing Rack, release date? Also, presets for Reason, Bitwig, and please also add basic controls for Serato.

[@andoletube]

Some consoles (even the Behringer X Touch) make a big deal about "touch sensitive faders" Does the Wing have these, and what can't you do if you don't have them?

[@MadelnMachines]

Wing doesn't have them unfortunately. I guess the main thing about touch sensitive is that it allows you to see what your fader is controlling before moving it. However, all of the scribble strips also help you see this so perhaps it's not necessary?

[@gregzen1614]

can i use wing as a controller with vMix Live Production & Streaming Software?

[@notdaones]

Btw the fact that it can be used for digital summing , DAW control, processing, automation, audio interfacing, I mean this thing is hard to beat for 3k.

[@LeonUnger]

I´m a Adobe Audition User. Can wing console will be use to control Audition ? Im a audio post producer for video, and audition is a perfect tool for this task.

[@hamzaabu-ghazale3353]

good morning I would like some inquiries about the behringer wing audio mixer. Can he bear the work around the clock or the pressure of working on the air live in the radio broadcast and program pressure and can he bear With sincere thanks and appreciation to you

[@teknomaatix7654]

A Magix Samplitude Preset is greatly needed! Does anyone know if the scribble strips on the Wing can be set to recognize and display the colors of the tracks in your session when in DAW mode? For example Track 1: Red, Track 2: Blue, Track 3: Green, etc. Either automatic or manual configuration of this would be beautiful!

[@QuantumComposer]

AFAIK track colors are not supported in MCU/HUI protocols. Since DAW mode relies on these protocols it is not possible.

[@samuelbrown2679]

I'd love to see support for reason studios

[@behringer]

Hi Samuel, Reason supports the HUI protocol so the faders and things like solo, mute, record works out of the box. Additional functions will work too but you will need to create your own preset on WING if you want to use the custom control section.

[@samuelbrown2679]

@@behringer that is awesome. Is there an article you recommend to do this? Thanks again!

[@behringer]

@@samuelbrown2679 Please check the documentation that comes with the firmware update (link is in the video description).

[@samuelbrown2679]

@@behringer got it thank you!

[@BJARealty]

Does the daw features work with Reason Studios?

[@derkhedemann5606]

it would be nice if the Behringer DAW Control also works in Adobe Audition

[@johnnygodwin3227]

I am having difficulty with your website and music tribe and there seems to be no other link to get a message through other than this. I cannot register my product and the Music Tribe registration process is not working. I keep getting error mesage about my username needs to start with a letter and I clearly am. Could someone please reach out to me and help?

[@LeeMatches]

I would dearly love to know if there are plans to produce a rackmount version of the Wing at some point in the future?

[@notdaones]

Lol why ?

[@LeeMatches]

@@notdaones Well the rackmount version of the X32 is incredibly popular. With all the features of the full X32 but packed into a form factor that makes it more portable it’s a very attractive proposition for a small gigging/function band that do their own sound. For me the feature in the wing that makes it more attractive than the X32 isn’t just the extra channel count, it’s the underlying architecture. Pack that into a rackmount form and bands like mine will be forming an orderly queue to buy one.

[@victorventura1006]

Now Yes! Explod !!!!!!! With Ableton Live ! A Dream cam true ! And the Latency ? Does Usb have good quality ? Converters ?

[@cassispruill1012]

PS. If you guys made a DAW APP for apple this wing will be unstoppable

[@marcpinion]

Presonus is a big competitor for you with their studio live setups. It would be fantastic to see everything you can do with the Wing with studio one. I am currently using studio one 5 and an XR 18 that I think is fantastic but I would like to upgrade to a mixer that is a control serface as well.

[@dnabeats2070]

is it possible to use "sends on fader" in daw mode?

[@DonMusicbeats]

Hello guys, I am a new wing user I bought this mixer because i Thought There is a preset for FL studio (Fruity Loops) As I can see in the video 3:07 If its included in any Firmware update please let me know I need it urgently. Thanks in advance.g

[@Eclectic_MusicProductions]

I'm a propellerhead reason user, I would like to see presets for reason included in the setup

[@lagenwechsel]

What´ s about Magix Samplitude and Sequoia, these Recording Software are very professional and you can find them in a lot of Broadcast Studios

[@motavisjones]

BitWig would be great DAW add.

[@leonardgoulet5864]

Can you mix out of the box with it?

[@LoveMeBack]

I wish the formfactor was wide to fit on my desk. Everything from the Scribble up except the display to the sides.

[@anupkoshy9545]

Nice. Now cant wait for the expansion cards

[@AlienFm1]

I currently have Flstudio 20 can you do a video.. it!

[@andypower6924]

Awsome desk. I use the Wing in my studio, I will be using the remote buttons for my DAW but not the Mackie settings. I want to use the Wings eq, comp, effects etc.. rather like a traditional studio...really works for me.

[@eraknosbeats9191]

good and question, you use that with which sound card please?

[@fizmo100]

Support for Cakewalk by Bandlab would be great. Also,I'm a little hesitant to buy just now in case there is a Midas version of the Wing in the works for future release, in the same way the X32 came out followed by the M32... Better faders would be particularly welcome.

[@teknomaatix7654]

Cakewalk By BandLab is Definitely supported! I will send you a link if you want to see it for yourself!

[@fizmo100]

@@teknomaatix7654 Thanks for the reply, great to know it is supported. In the end I went with a different product that better suited my needs, but it's good to know for future that the Wing is an option. 🙂👍

[@teknomaatix7654]

@@fizmo100 So what did you decide to go with? I can't seem to make a decision.

[@fizmo100]

@@teknomaatix7654 I was having to downgrade from a big old analogue console due to space. I looked at the WING and the Midas M32. I think both look like superb pieces of gear, but in the end I felt Softube Console 1 and Fader were a better fit for a studio environment, paired with a Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre and Octopre and an Audient Nero for monitor switching/headphone mixes. I don't need the preamps or onboard effects of the Wing/M32 as I already have good external pres plus the Clarett pres, and I will be working in a DAW with more plugins than I will ever need, so when I examined what I actually wanted it was a control surface with motorised faders, and a whole load of I/O. Console 1 lets me keep the 'analogue feel' of my old workflow but move towards working more 'in the box'. I've kept my old desks into storage though, hopefully one day I will have space for them again! I think if I was doing live sound or putting an audio system in a venue or church the Wing and M32 would be the place I'd look first, but for my studio use I'd be paying for a ton of features/functionality I already have elsewhere. The other hang-up with the Wing as I mentioned above is I would be gutted if I bought a Wing, then a Midas version came out that was nicer. What is your setup, and what are your options?

[@teknomaatix7654]

@@fizmo100 I just ordered the Focusrite Clarett from Guitar Center. I haven't even had a chance to experience it before the purchase. I did experience the Scarlett. I was told the Clarett is much better with better pres which was confirmed from a bit of research. I hope I made the right choice. I haven't had a recording studio in the last couple of years. I got rid of a Korg Triton, Behringer Eurodesk and some other "stuff" back then. I have been out of the loop for a few years but I am getting back into the swing of things now that I have the freedom to do so and a bit of cash and the space to put it all together. Working in the box has been killing me softly and now that I am getting serious I gotta get right. I lose inspiration with too much ITB. Thats why I was scoping out the Wing and other gear. Its a mess looking for the "right" controller that will give me 24 faders and pots, scribble strips, meters, etc. I think I am going to go with the Mackie MCU or the Behringer X-Touch. Add two 8 channel extenders to either, do some modding and start like that. Looking into some mics like Warbler, Pearlman TM-2 and a few others. I feel like I am being awaken from the dead coming back to my passion! I use FL Studio and Logic for music compositions and PT 10 and Samplitude for tracking, mixing. SO I need a controller that can handle all of them. The WING seemed promising but for many reasons, some that you've mentioned, not quite in the end.

[@TheRangeControl]

In addition, please: Update on WIng Rackmountable will be available Update on when Waves Sound Grid card will be available & Provide overview of ALL of the included Outboard effects gear which have been modeled and added as digital effects. Thank you.

[@adamjohnbarta]

Does Reason work with the Wing as a DAW?

[@qdaprofessah]

Is there compatibility with Reason???

[@vanderhooftamvl6587]

EUCON support would be too amazing.

[@morsikpl]

that would be too expensive as Avid licensing would kill pricing :(

[@maranathaafrica]

Does it control Protocols software?

[@headsails]

Harrison Mixbus 32c inclusion?

[@radside2355]

I would like to request a more detailed video or more detailed steps on how to customize the upper Custom Control Section to support DAW functions. I’ve seen the current DAW documentation but need more details on the upper CC section.

[@behringer]

Thanks for the idea!

[@robstaylor4234]

is the ghosting issue fixed yet?

[@severinedellaporta2760]

Please add Reaper settings in the DAW list. Many thanks in advance ;-) and for your great work!

[@bbaudio4341]

Already ready in. Enjoy.

[@severinedellaporta2760]

BB AUDIO : That was fast ;-) thanks for the info!

[@phoenixmediaforge]

So, you now have a $3,500 X-Touch. I prefer to use the console to control the audio, and an external automation system to control the console.

[@MarioSalvini]

Is there a Reason Studio Preset?

[@robeko7887]

Why not compatible with Bitwig?

[@ldorgodeardorff1133]

How many live mic inputs? I don't see more than 8 on the back of the unit. How many live mic recording inputs? am I missing something here? I refuse to pay 3k for 8 live channels for recording.

[@worldwiderecordsinternatio9744]

can it be used with daw adobe audition

[@newtrack5729]

Please make a fully touch screen base digital compact mixer physical fader less (wing compact) 24ch or 32ch

[@mikeb2575]

F**k the wing, when is your copy of the CS-80 coming out ??? We all have cash ready to buy... I mean a mixing desk is useless unless you have something to plug into it. Come on guys get finishing the synths you promised us !! :)

[@themusicindustryschoolofmu4590]

But WHY are there only 8 inputs??? 2 more would have been a great help.

[@lydfar2392]

Integration with Pro Tools, anyone has any experience? Much appreciated, thanks

[@cesarsalgan5235]

Hi. What about MIDI functionality to change scenes and snippets on Wing via MIDI like X32 for live performances? Thanks

[@behringer]

A fantastic suggestion! Keep your eyes peeled for more updates :)

[@nnjprt-wr4gn]

Any deals for upgrading from a Eurodesk 9000? :D

[@behringer]

😂

[@jlaudio9520]

Hola amigo buenas tardes tengo un inconveniente con esta consola se trata del tactil se pulsa solo como me podría colaborar mil gracias

[@HanZijspan]

I am still waiting for Adobe Audition to be implemented. Please??

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Need rack version!!!