Winging Progress Session nr. 12 - POV & Talkthrough - GONG HIPE 5,3 / PULSE 6 / RISE M & XXL

[@konstantinbubnovich]

Hi! I'm also from Berlin, can you recommend a good location at the Wannsee for wingfoil?

[@leo-stief]

Hey Konstantin, Yes definitely! Havelchausse north of Schwanenwerder for Everything West Wind. Flensburger Löwe for Everything from north west, eats to south wind. Pennerstrand for everything thats not east wind. If you want to I could integrate you to our local Foilers Network, we have a WhatsApp Group where people write where they go foiling when and so on :)

[@a.b.6040]

Maybe you should try to do the schlong-chopper-technique it adds speed to the foil and makes it easier to come out of the water so you won't have to pump that much. Looking forward to you testing it and report in the next video.

[@raffskin]

Can you recommend some spots in Berlin around Wannsee. Ideally for east and west wind?

[@captainkeys8920]

Winging ist definitiv ein Much für sich, aber mein Schlong häng ich auch gerne mal in den Wind

[@bluejuice57]

It’s a fantastic journey learning wing foiling, try out the Droid 6m so much more power. 🤙

[@leo-stief]

Sooner or later I will.. It looks more compact as well! Annoying part about the Pulse 6m is holding it high enough to net get the Tips in the Water :D

[@CaSuper123]

Hi. Bigger front area on foil, betterv for low end wind range. But those it behaviours well when wind picks uP? What is a good compromise for a 96kg guy with windsyrf experience for 20/16knts wind. I am thinking on a 7m wing

[@CaSuper123]

And a hiper 5.5. What is for you the main difference between inflatable and rigid board?

[@leo-stief]

The Rise XXL doesn't like speed. It feels like a break when going really fast, but still behaves well and stays controllable. The Curve (XLT) goes a lot faster but therefor decreases your low end range by maybe 2 kn.. I would probably go for a 6m as the bigger wings are kind of more difficult to handle and in 16 to 20 kn the 6 would be enough I guess. For the Foil I would say it depends on what you prefer: Smaller Foil = slow progress & less lowend, biggger foil = Fast progress, therefor slow on the water. The 5.5 is a good one for shure! Quite turny and feels smaller than it is but still suitably for the first steps as it completely floats with 150 l. Im on the 5.3 with 10 kg bodyweight less. I really like the Inflatable so far (specially as it fits in my car..) but I haven't tried so many other boards so my opinion on it is not really evidence based. However I don't see a difference in getting of the water to regid boards of my friends. The only downsides are that it sticks a bit to the water (no concave or anything underneath it) and it doesn't like touchdowns on the rails. Both things I don't really have any problems with. Hope this helps :)

[@Sequoiaandpines]

Thank you for your help. Very useful. Last questions:) what about for my 96kgs a good wing foil (with the HIPER 5.5 inflatable board) for wind around 8/10 to 15knts? And should in this case have a 7m wing?

[@leo-stief]

Thanks, I appreciate it! I would go for a big one like the Rise XL. I haven't tried them all, but a bigger size will get you up on the foil easier for sure! Therefor the Big Foils are slower.. I think the easiest one to use is the RISE, if you want something a bit faster you can go for the CURVE etc.. On my 6 m I need like 12 knots to get up on the foil. a 7m will probably increase your low end and therefore decrease your high end. I would go for the 6 as its smaller and easier to handle :D

[@Sequoiaandpines]

@@leo-stief than you very much for your help mate

[@CaSuper123]

@@leo-stief what about wing size?

[@leo-stief]

@@CaSuper123 Depends on your conditions ;)

[@carbonarne675]

Es ist gut zu sehen dass du auch rein fällst! Ich dachte schon ich bin komplett dumm

[@leo-stief]

Ich falle andauernd rein, die Videos täuschen weil da immer nur Momente drin sind in denen man nicht fällt... Aber man muss halt failen wenn man was neues lernen will :))

[@carbonarne675]

@@leo-stief jop! War am 2.nov das Wochenende aufm Wannsee 14footer Segeln, da waren so einige wingfoiler! Da habe ich das erste Mal gesehen wie es in echt aussieht und mich entschlossen 2022 das auch zu lernen...

[@leo-stief]

@@carbonarne675 Gute Entscheidung! XD Das Wingfoilen ist einfach geil und ergibt auf dem Wannsee hier total Sinn wenn man halt schon bei bisschen unter 15 knoten echt spaß haben kann... Aber 14footer Segeln macht bestimmt auch Spaß :)

[@carbonarne675]

@@leo-stief gestern war ich das erste Mal kitefoilen in meinem Leben, habe mir das foil dafür selbst gebaut und bin voll überwältigt, dass es auf Anhieb funktioniert hat

[@leo-stief]

@@carbonarne675 Sehr cool Respekt! Selbst gebaut heißt aus G10 gefräst oder mit negative Mold? Hatte mir auch vorgenommen mal eigene Foils zu bauen aber glaube das wird Zeit mäßig erstmal nichts... Hast du deins dann an einem anderen Kitefoil orientiert oder frei hand entworfen?

[@mulhauserthomas1325]

Hi great video - i like the comment and explanation during the video - i am a beginner and would like to purchase as well GONG. I am not sure if i should buy the 6.5 or 7.5 Hipe and the Foil for beginner Rise ALu XL or the X over Alu XXL . I m 85-90 kg . Do you have any recommandation ?

[@wiepkejan]

My Weight is 85 kilo and i use a 6 meter as biggest currently. My thinking is that pumping a bigger wing is hard. I love my takoon wing 6m. Is approx same price as gong. And lighter i think. I use gong allvator xlt wing as biggest wing (2100 cm2). I am totaly Stoked by winging and learning it. Have fun!

[@leo-stief]

Thanks I appreciate it! I would go for the 6.5 or maybe 5.5 as the really Big Boards are only really suitable for the first steps... Maybe take some lessons on a big board and then buy a slightly smaller like the 5.5 for your self. I haven't tried the X Over Yet but when taking the Rise I would probably go for the XL. The Rise XXL is quite Slow but therefore easier to ride. Hope that helps :)

[@BlocksPlayTV]

Hat Gong für Studenten oder Schüler einen Rabattcode?

[@leo-stief]

So weit ich weiß leider nicht... Aber besseres Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis wirst du kaum finden :D

[@BlocksPlayTV]

Do you regret starting with the rise xxl instead of the x-over or rise xl?

[@leo-stief]

X Over habe ich noch nicht probiert. War mit dem Rise XXL eigentlich super zufrieden da der zum Pumpfoilen echt geeignet ist. Bin auch jetzt immer noch froh dass ich den habe, da der XLT z.b. nicht von überall startbar ist. Zum Wingen ist ehr eigentlich ein bisschen zu groß aber hier auf dem See hats echt Vorteile da man einfach bi weniger Wind rauskann. also in Summary: Mit dem Rise XXL starten war eine gute Entscheidung!

[@AlexSurf]

Cool dude!

[@socialwebwiki]

RISE XXL is not from gong right? did you test the gong foil?

[@leo-stief]

Der ist von GONG, glaube aber dass es mittlerweile nur noch den RISE in XL und nicht mehr in XXL gibt.

[@timmysailing]

What is psi of the wing

[@leo-stief]

Round about 9 psi

[@richardfeliscoso1554]

wooooww...👌👌👌

[@leo-stief]

Thanks man I appreciate it :)

[@richardfeliscoso1554]

@@leo-stief can't wait to buy my on foil.. just a little more time im saving money..next year maybe ill buy it.. excited to see your nxt videos,.. 😁 godspeed

[@leo-stief]

@@richardfeliscoso1554 Its definitely worth saving for! Buying my foils was probably the best investment I've ever made! Thanks Man :) Greetings from Germany

[@richardfeliscoso1554]

@@leo-stief nice, so you got many foils? wow,. im wondering here in my country why there's no one using foils here i think.. wind foiling maybe but on flat water pumping im sure no one use here in phillipines.. thanks a lot sir for a positive thoughts for me.. next year maybe,maybe,.. I'll get that foil,maybe...hehehe have fun sir and keep safe.. godspeed 👌👌👌

[@leo-stief]

@@richardfeliscoso1554 Ive got the RISE M & XXL and the CURVE PRO XLT. And some Boards to mix it up a bit.. Its definitely worth saving for! Thanks, have a good one and best greetings from germany :)