Thanks mate! There will be more soon, had a lot to do recently but there is slowly more time again :) I'm using the AXIS 1201 a lot recently and now I'm transitioning all to Gong I think. The new Veloce HDW is exactly what i wanted so i will order it in the bigger sizes as well and then se my AXIS 1201 probably to be all on GONG :D I still love the Leviathan but I sold it as i did not use it once this year. I'm allways paddling nowadays, no more pumping...

@@leo-stief thank you for the update. sounds interesting. Do you think that the Veloce HDW also work for pumping/dockstarting?

With the rigth size of foil it works like a charm :)

You're very welcome :) Just wait for strong wind and you should be good to go!

Hallo Rebecca, das Video ist schon relativ alt und ich habe das Hydrofoil.de Zeugs mittlerweile bestimmt 2 Jahre nicht mehr angefasst :) Mir würde der Wavecatcher heute auf jeden Fall besser gefallen als der Dockstarter. Den Lakemaster kenne ich noch garnicht und habe ihn somit nie getestet :) Allgemein favorisiere ich jetzt aber auf jeden Fall andere Foils/ Marken. Aktuell viel Axis aber ich wechsle jetzt fast komplett zurück auf Gong.

Moin, auf dem See gibts glaube ich kein zu großes Foil! Besser viel zu groß und unbeweglich als so klein dass der Stallspeed zu hoch ist! Den 1201 zum Beispiel hätte ich an dem Tag auf dem See auf jeden Fall nicht fahren können, großer Leviathan hätte bestimmt funktioniert. Viel Spaß beim testen! Da kommt bestimmt bald mal richtig Wind auf dem See vorbei :)

Für Downwinder auf dem Meer brauchst du dann auf jeden Fall kleinere Foils, aber ich würde auf jeden Fall sagen dass es auf dem See super funktionieren sollte!

Depending on the waves, your weigth and surf/ foil skills. the Curve Mt is not a bad choice! Has plenty of lift for its size, pumps relatively easy and is easy to steer. I used the Curve XLH a fair bit and it was nice for the first few sessions but at a certain point it was simply to lifty for takeoffs when waves where bigger than 2 foot. Now I'm using a below 1000 and it comes up more then eraly enough most of the time.I would recommend to get used to one setup to really get comfy on it. Let me know about conditions, weigth and skill, then meaybe i can give you a clearer recommendation, however I'm also not a pro Surf Foiler, so my advice is probably biased and other will advice differently :)

@@leo-stief thanks for the reply! I really love your content Leo! So more info: Weight: 70kg Skill: surfing since many years (intermediate level I would say). Surf foiling I have 7 or 8 sessions. I can get up and fly for a couple of seconds often I fall off quickly but sometimes I manage to ride it until I lose speed and touch the water again. I can’t pump at all yet. I was thinking of getting a front wing with more surface area because I guess then it’s easier to pump? I’m looking at the gong xover but that only has either L 1300 (probably not much difference to my current 1150) or XL 1650cm2 which feels like it might be too much? Hmm but yeah I would love to surf foil on days with very very small waves so maybe 1650cm2 mounted at the back of the board is okey for that. I’m also excited about the new gong NOTW and Scura. I’m on a 5.0” lance now and catching small small waves is difficult. I think with a 6,8” NOTW and xl xover I would be able to catch very small stuff the question is: is it easier or harder to learn pumping on these bigger longer boards. Do you have experience with that?

In actually parked just a few minutes away from aviles salinas where u surfed in the other video from you :)

@@FabiodeSaldanha Thanks Fabio, i love that people like the stuff i put up haha! Okay based on your weigth and surf skill I would first of all say, trust the process! After 8 Sessions I could not do shit, and I could pump perfectly in flat water before. I think it took me like 20 Sessions or so to be able to pump out of the wave and to ride a bit more consistent. And they were 20 long long sessions. The real break through for me came later on when I had another 4 weeks in mellow conditions with small waves. So my latest Surf Foil Video is basically me after consistent 2 months of a session everyday... It really takes time to get good... For the Equipment: I would suggest to stay in the L range of Foils with Gong, the XL will probably be to lifty for 70kg, making the take of way harder when it lifts before you pop up. A bigger Front wing does defenitely make your life easier for pumping! But Surface Area is not everything, and it comes with a huge downgrade in speed and controllability in the wave. My Advice would be to go for something like the Curve H in L. Its big enough to pump good, yet still turny and not too lifty for takeoffs. Generally High Aspect Foils Pump better. In the beginning its a bit weird to get used to them, but once you are, they are simply more fun in the surf as they can keep up a certain speed and don't require much power to pump. I'm very confident in saying that you can pump the Curve H L longer in the surf than the X-Over XL, as the X Over is way more draggy. And its important to have low drag in the wave and to keep the speed up in order to get out of the wave efficiently. The X Over XL migth get up to speed, but as sonn as your not in the perfect spot anymore it will slow down immediatly, requiring energy to keep up, whilst a High Aspect Foil will most likely just glide on. I hope this helps with the Foil Choice! I would not recommend to go too High Aspect, for example I love the new Veloce HDW now (have the s 750 sqcm) but without proper proper pump technique the thing is a nightmare to get used to... With proper technique it's simply beautiful as all the drag is gone. For the board: smaller board is easier to pump! Yet, bigger board is way easier to get going. I prefer easier to get going over better pump still to be able to surf ultra micro waves. Your current size is perfect I would say! good compromise between long efficient to paddle and not too long to make it too hard to pump. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have further questions! :)

@@FabiodeSaldanha Awesome! Its truly the perfect spot for learning there!!!! Wish I was there rigth now haha

Awesome! For me this project opened a whole world of working with composite materials : )

True haha

It was not mine so I'm not sure but I think it was the red crazy short :)

Hey man, thanks! There will be more content soon :) I would have preferred the Leviathan 1350 for this day, but didn't have it with me at the time being. It would work fantastically! I'm now at a point where I usually don't use it for downwinders any more, as the AXIS 1201 is my new ligth wind wing, but I would choose the Leviathan 1350 anytime again to learn the paddle up and to get the first experiences downwinding. It's definitely too slow to keep up with good wind swell, but getting up is more important than being fast in the beginning!

@@leo-stief Thanks, good info! I also have the new Sabfoil 1260 coming, which should be faster once I get more experience.

@@DeadriseFoilboards Uhhh let me know how it goes please :D I wanted to test it since they announced it but no one here ordered it yet...

@@leo-stief I absolutely will let you know. Our windy wavy season is fast approaching here in the Canadian Great Lakes!

Thanks man! :) There will be more content soon, had a lot to do recently but will have some time to edit everything from the past half year or so very soon :D

Yeah its not all Maui conditions :D Good question! As the wind is always very very gusty here, probably on a day thats like 16 kn base to 30 kn gusts or so. From Winging on days with max of 25 kn gusts with perfect direction south west wind, I unfortunately already know that its not enough to fly free when gusts don't exceed 25 kn. So I'll try again once it reaches the 30 kn Treshold I think :)

I've been winging the Templiner See already! Its a nice spot as well :)

@@leo-stief Great! I am pump foiling at the Rudergesellschaft dock mostly tuesdays, fridays and saturdays. Sometimes also on Sundays. Maybe we can meet up. i would love to get some feedback from you. You inspired me to start with foiling :)

Den will ich auch auf jeden Fall nochmal ausprobieren! Vor allem würde der Müggelsee bei jeder WIndrichtung gut funktionieren :DD

Nice, how much fetch does your lake have? Steady 20 kn sounds reasonable, here 20 kn ground wind mostly means 35 in the gusts so basically exactly like in the video's conditions. Yeah the Vampire Boards are sick, light and sturdy! How long can you go when always taking the foil assist upwind as well?

5 km with a dam at the end. I did not measure yet but upwind is indeed eating the battery

Thanks, glad the information can help, have fun in the bay! :)

Its Playa de Salinas in Asturias, northern Spain :) But it was mostly not that small when we visited :D

@@leo-stief cool anyways, I plan a Malaga trip next spring, but that's another coast. You do really amazing foil surfing videos. I've never thought of using it that way!

Moin Milan, ich gehe meistens Wannsee Havelchausse oder am Flensburger Löwen rein :) Wir haben hier auch eine große WhatsApp Gruppe mit vielen anderen Foilern, wenn du willst kann ich dich dort auch aufnehmen. LG Leo

@@leo-stief Ah cool, super gerne! Ich hab dir mal eine Nachricht mit meiner Nummer bei Instagram geschickt, weil ich nicht wusste wie ich dir hier eine PM schicken kann.

Hey man, Yeah the adapters are awesome now a days! No more need to buy a new mast for everything :D Freedom Dagger 7,5 sounds awesome, i really like the ffb gear. Were the same weigth! I would recommend to stay with the 753 for the beginning, specially as you're already used to it. the shorter fuse makes pumping way more efficient, however, it also leads to the foil feeling less in control and more twitchy, requiring more finesse in steering and potencially more frustration. For downwinding, out of the sab quiver, I would now definitely choose the 753, as the 663 is too instable for me on the pitch axis when reaching a certain speed. Only for pumping or flatwater paddling I would choose the 663 every day tho. The 1550 and 1750 make the paddle up easier for sure! Still, I think the technique used to paddle up the 1550 and 1750 is not really transferable to the sea/ ocean, as every wind swell is way faster than the 1550 or 1750 can go so it's almost impossible to ride them downwind, or to paddle them up as the bump will overtake rigth away... I still really enjoy the 1350, but don't really use it for downwind anymore as I can now paddle up faster foils consistently, making it easier to stay with the bumps instead of always falling behind and having to pump. I think for a downwind oriented paddle up training the 1350 is already almost too big so i would only advice on going bigger if the aim is to master the flatwater paddle up faster :) Best from berlin, where i will chase some boat waves later today on the axis 1201 :D

I'm on a something 30 to 35-litre Board now and I love it! However, I would go back to the 48 l for learning immediately and think one should only switch to something smaller when feeling really comfy on the bigger board :)

@@leo-stief I do surf a 32 litre short board now, but now older running at 82kgs now so a little heavier but would like to try surf foiling, i have not done any before, I had a mispent youth and don't have an issue with surfing however foil size and board size is something I am trying to get my head around. Maybe a 2 or multiple step process?

It Dependfs on what your use case is :) Overall, 1310 is more efficient in straight pumping, but i would prefer the 1300 for down winding and most other disciplines as it feels better for me :D You're experience might be different tho :D

Hey Martin, I have unfortunately not tested the Sirus too much yet. But what I can already tell you from the few goes I had in it is that when comparing a similar span Leviathan to the Sirus, the Sirus will be much faster but also much higher in stall speed. The Curve H is a closer replica to the Leviathan from how it feels and lifts, and i think the Curve H xxl/xxxl is superior for pumping to the Sirus. Size wise: If you're not above 95 kg or so I would suggest you to go for 135 instead of 155. Yes, it'll take a bit more power to start it, but the 135 is still comparably way to easy to start, yet it's definitely more turnable than the 155 :D Comparing Leviathan to the Curve / Sirus: I think that the Leviathan ist way better thann the Curve H, Its a bit more efficient, therefore the curve H turns better and the Sirus goes a bit faster. I think the most efficient pump will be generated with the leviathan when set up right but i think my choice for the next summer of pumping will be the curve H in xxlh. Hope this helps :) And for winging I would suggest the 135 range over the 155 range too, but some might also feel benefits from a bigger foil :)

​@@leo-stiefthank you so much for your time and your feedback. You're best man. Appreciate it.

Hey man, I haven’t done a loaded bend test to truly compare them, but I feel like they are about the same stiffness. Maybe the axis is a bit stiffer but I’m not sure. What I do feel like is that the Axis feels a bit more free and less draggy (I guess less chord, different section…) I would love to get a Hm Mast! But I would want it because of it’s thinner for the same stiffness. I don’t believe in the Stiffness gain too much for now. In a year or so that might be different. The Nolimitz v2 72 for example feels almost the same as the axis 19 mm stiffness wise (a bit less stiff) but it’s sooo much faster! I think for truly large foils with like >130 span the masts are not there yet, feel like most large Frontwing setups feel like a noodle when not used to it. But when I then use it for two weeks it feels normal again :D Are you on the Gong v1 or gong v2? If on the v1 buy the v2 it’s soo much better :)