Wingnut Wings W.12 Part 1 Are they worth it?

I explore the world of Peter Jackson's Wingnut Wings WWI 1:32nd scale model aircraft. Talk about the myths and tell you the truth as I see it. Then I open my Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 kit to see just what you get for your shekels.
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[@TheInquisitiveCat]

Nice one Harry! Keep after it! Cheers for Christmas & New Year!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks!

[@motionboy356]

Looks great! Can't wait to see you build it!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

me too :)

[@justinrogers1630]

Seems the best explanation or description of wing nut wings is that it's an experience... can't wait to get one one day.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

It's worth the experience!

[@VikingModeller]

I'll be looking forward to these builds sir. WNW looks like great kits and the passion of Peter Jackson behind them makes them even better in my opinion.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

me too!

[@type2280303]

hi Harry ;-) this was a very nice out off the box review, really enjoyed it and you do confirm that those Wingnut Wings are really a beautiful kits to build, looking forward to see this build ;-)

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Should be fun!

[@09fisherglen]

Amazing..an Ocker saying something nice about us Kiwis!!..😀😀 Nice one Harry!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Oh we are just squabbling siblings... hehe

[@paulgarner3541]

“arse end” also known as empennage: From the Interweb: “The empennage is the name given to the entire tail section of the aircraft, including both the horizontal and vertical stabilizers, the rudder and the elevator. As a combined unit, it works identically to the feather on the arrow, helping guide the aircraft to its destination.”

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Wonderfull and this part is? bite et couilles

[@paulgarner3541]

@@HarryHoudiniModels ha ha ha - that's badinage !

[@sharpiesfishandphantoms]

sunday morning at the bench working on the sukhoi with uncle Harry in the background waffling on, not a bad way to spend time.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

My waffle is therapeutic because it contains lots of white noise!

[@sharpiesfishandphantoms]

also makes a nice change from my usual viewing position 😉.

[@robertgrimsted877]

Best model kit vid channel

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks Robert.

[@jjab99]

The Wing Nuts kits do look fantastic, but I really do not think that I would pay the amount of money being demanded by the people selling them on Flea-Bay. I looked today and they wanted almost £100.00 for the cheapest of the kits, and went to almost £150.00 for a kit. This is just silly money. If I could get one at the cost that you got one at, I might buy one, but I will not throw my money away. I think that Wing Nuts should perhaps sell their moulds and re-box at a cheaper price to allow for the potential reduction in quality that might occur. I actually think that the moulds would be fine for a lot more production of kits than has already happened. They must be of a very high quality to start with and I think they would last a very long time indeed. Just my 2 Pence worth and of course, others will have a different view and that is just fine, we are all individuals. Can't wait to see how it all goes and just wanted to say thank you for this video and the other videos too. Have fun, Joe

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

exactly... they started out much more affordable years ago, now its just getting out of control!

[@kg6qzx]

I will say that the WNW kits are worth the price....as you say...they are an “experience to be enjoyed”. The instruction books are simply lovely. I’ve had the disease since they were first released. Thanks for this posting. I watched this review years ago but hadn’t commented and just re-watched so I had to add my compliments this time. Well done and Kind Regards to you. Pat

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks Pat... 3 dozen kits later I am still addicted to them!

[@twistedsniper42]

great review Harry

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks Matey

[@rondyson8323]

G'day Harry, These are beautiful kits I have the Sopwith Snipe and the problem for me was the fact that I put a lot of effort and detail ,..not only in the cockpit ,but below the floor ,......it looks fantastic ,but you cant see most of it , lol But the best part of these kits is the pleasure of owning something of QUALITY …..not seen much nowerdays … which is why I been building a couple of the DeAgostini 1/8 cars …(Mustang and the Delorian from back to the future) ……...Yes , Good to own quality …...Ron

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Two years later and with two dozen Wingnut Wings kits in my stash I agree wholeheartedly. I’m only halfway through the W.12 but have enjoyed every minute of the build so far.

[@AlexModeling]

I believe that plane was the plane that my country man "GAGO COUTINHO " and SACADURA CABRAL used to do the first aereal Atlantic flight from Portugal to Brazil... beautifful Instructions.. the manual itself is a book... fantastic!! And the quality of the sprues... MY GOD! the rigging however would drive me mad (i just glue wires don t know how to do it "professionally" and at that scale you need too... great review

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thank you.. I will be showing the simple rigging method I have learned using Ezline in the future build videos

[@kgs42]

These kits really give you a chance to create a true replica and put in the effort to get a superb, beautiful finished outcome. The scale allows you to achieve proper detailed treatment.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Exactly my point

[@DESooner333]

Nice review - the Wingnut Wings appear to be beautiful kits. If I wasn't so intimidated with rigging I would purchase a few. Maybe as investments lol

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Not all have lots of Rigging... Sure a Felixstowe would send you to the lunatic asylum, but the Fokker D.VII has hardly any, also the Roland C.II. At this scale it's a lot easier to get your hands in between the wings and run the lines. I will do a tutorial on rigging the W.12, not that there is much to do, when I get to that stage. Ezy-Line is the solution!

[@leespender4774]

Excellent look at the WNW "experience" I built the Pfalz D III and it was a fantastic kit to build I also have the big Gotha in the stash :)

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

thanks..looking forward to my build

[@and2milne]

Hi harry, just a wee bit of info for you, my local model shop now stocks wingnut wings! The shop is the last stand miniatures in corinda brisvagas! Enjoy mate hope this helps.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

I know Paul Skuse very well and picked up a WNW Camel from him at QMHE. It's great he's now a distributor. I've also pre ordered the WNW Taube through him already :)

[@mightymuzrub]

Unfortunately, I rejoined the hobby and missed these beautiful editions to our hobby.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

They can still be bought privately and the absurd asking prices have come down in most cases to the original price or better

[@PHLewis1956ye1q9]

I'm fortunate to have two Wingnut kits in my stash (Sopwith Pup and Pfalz D.IIIa), but I haven't built them yet. Yes, the kits are expensive but they're also a great value. I remember the first time I looked at one of the instruction manuals and thinking how much time and money it would have taken if I had to assemble all of that information on my own. (Windsock Data Files don't come exactly cheap either, and you might be able to round up enough pictures by haunting and begging at various modeller forums, but that would take a lot of time and time, as they say, is money, too.) One thing you didn't mention about Wingnut that I feel should be mentioned is the quality of their website with downloadable instruction manuals and pictures of everything in the kit, completed models, etc., well, it's the kind of thing we wish all manufacturers would do but it's not likely to happen. Keep up the good work, Harry!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Actually I mentioned at least twice in my video about their research and what was available on the Wingnut Wings website.

[@Duececoupe]

Enjoying a rare cuppa while listening to your waffling and drooling over the build....just received a Wingnut Wings kit the other day and I'm waiting for another one, aaaaalllllll the way from Canadianland to warm and sunny UK, Scotland, which brings the body count....kit count I mean, kit count, to three and counting! Two Albatros and one Fokker D.VII so far, eager to get my dirty mittens on a Sopwith Camel or two as anything larger cost a kidney and whatnot! That Hansa Brandenburg W.12 looks interesting, I think that Sweden (the old country) had a few, but....I need to check what version though, I'm not sure that it was the the W.12! Onwards and upwards guv'nor!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Good to hear you have contracted the disease. I recall Denmark having a post war W.29 which was painted with bright red and white stripes.

[@Duececoupe]

@@HarryHoudiniModels We're safe! We had one Hansa Brandenburg 47, known in Sweden as S4....other than that, we flew later Heinkels, of which the He 5 is quite nice looking! 👍🏻👌🏻

[@Weetbix1969]

Richard Alexander the leads the team is a modeler himself and was at Modelcrafts and Hobbies in Wellington for quite a while so his modeling passion has gone into these as well which i think is why Peter chose him, he is a nice guy as well and good to talk to at model shows. he would have been the one saying how would i like the instructions to be to make it clear and easy so him and peter together are a good match for this and thats what i think makes them great. would love to see some WW1 armor from them as well, and it wouldn't surprise me if we saw a Lancaster after they have done The Dam Busters Movie, that would be a lit and a half.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Good to know

[@dtmjax5612]

I’ve gotta own as many as I can just for the boxes! 😜 Seriously though, it is an addiction. The kits are incredible.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

They are... even after building the interior for this one it’s so nice I haven’t had the heart to button it up and hide all that goodness!

[@markfrommontana]

Are they worth it? If you’re looking for bargain kits (barring occasional good luck): No. if you’re looking for extraordinary WWI model aircraft kits: Yes. As I have not yet had the occasional good luck in bargain shopping, I’ve paid far more for each of my 7 WNW kits than I would ever have spent on any other kit from any other manufacturer. And I don’t regret it for a moment. 😊

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

They are becoming so expensive now with the demise of WNW. If you got in at retail, or in my case bargain prices, then yes they are very much worth it. I finally got back to building this kit and have almost finished it. Has been a joy to build.

[@markfrommontana]

@@HarryHoudiniModels I know. Your build series on the Hansa was why I become a Patreon sponsor for your channel. Keep up the great work; I’ve learned a lot from you already. 👍

[@herrlogan17]

@@HarryHoudiniModels Demise of WNW? On website they are stating suspended orders because of c19. They are still in business I hope.

[@georgecoventry8441]

They are absolutely worth it! Best kits ever.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Yes they are... sadly no more now.

[@modelcitizen6759]

Like that last statement I too have a couple of these amazing kits in the stash, The Hansa Monoplane and Fokker DVII (Alb), and I just can bring myself to build them, simply because I love, and therefore don’t want to spoil, the in-box experience! Being a graphic designer I so want to work with these guys, the attention to detail and the atmosphere their package creates is unique in this hobby. I was shocked (and to be honest quietly delighted - well I am a Scot) to see the Hansa for sale for $900 on ebay! Boy first World War problems or what. In short I’m so going to enjoy your build of this because you’ll go through my pain barrier for me! Good on you Harry, let’s see how you get on. David aka MC.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

It is a sickness but I must build them, otherwise their purpose is never realised. Just like saving a rare bottle of wine for a special occasion, then it must be drunk, savoured and enjoyed in the moment.

[@modelcitizen6759]

Now that is a great answer, you’re wise for you’re years Harry. D

[@NigelsModellingBench]

Hey Harry, I just shouted you out on my review of the HGW detail set for this beautiful kit!! What's the point in me doing a review if you've already done it eh!!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks... I hope to get back to it and finish the build in December

[@robertgrimsted877]

Hi Harry how do you manage to get the kits down. In Australia really love the vids all ways cheer us up

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Wingnut Wings was only just over the ditch in New Zealand. So we were the closest country to their shop. However the kits were mounded in China. Since the global plague WNW have of course been shut down and it’s doubtful they will ever come back.

[@and2milne]

He is a bloody good bloke! He has parted plenty wisdom onto me ref the enigma that is my airbrush! 😂

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks matey

[@usssaratogacv3lefevre978]

Wish they would make ship kits.Their kit look incredible.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

They would be all painstaking interior detail that gets completely covered up once the decks go on! LOL

[@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling]

yes, one would have no problems to sell one´s own grandmother to get such a kit :) seems to be great fun! i am looking forward to that comparison build.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

sadly I have run out of relatives to auction off!

[@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling]

well you only need one kidney after all... :)

[@ApriliaRSV4F]

Hamilkar Barkas SO you only need to sell of your Grandmother. I wish some had told me that earlier. So I should have been able to get 2 kits after selling off my mother?

[@kevinjohnson8220]

I've built the Roden Dr I. I did Lothar's plane with some extra Hobbycraft decals. It wasn't a bad build at all but you need to add stuff.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Meng has now released the prototype of the Wingnut Wings Dr.I designed just before WNW shut it doors during the plague. I made a review video of that kit and found the parts very much like a Wingnut Wings kit, as they are from the N.Z. CAD design, but the packaging and instructions were nothing like the quality of a WNW kit… and that is half the experience. Luckily, it was half the price.

[@Willyoustandintheend]

Yes wing nut wings is worth every penny. There not for the casual builder but for someone who want to take there skill to the next level they give you by far the best base kit to upgrade and with the reference photos your skill is the limit

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Absolutely as long as you don’t pay the ridiculous prices on eBay

[@Desertduleler_88]

Great review with some Aussie humour....

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks Mr Stoney, only humour I know :)

[@rogerhudson9732]

They are worth it , if you can make them at the level they deserve. The fine rigging can do your head in!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Sure they are worth a good price, maybe even what Wingnut Wings retails them for, but not the ridiculous prices scalped on eBay. Bugger all rigging on a W.12... but maybe a Felixstowe’s rigging would drive you crazy.

[@SAINTJAMESOFFICIAL]

hey man I live in Victoria and I make models also!! great vids also matey!!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks

[@bpezzano1]

Now you have me wanting to build a WWI aircraft. lol

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

It's a sickness!

[@1962makka]

Once you build it, you will find its worth every sheckle. Fit is better than a modern Tamiya Jit.. enjoy, as I will enjoy seeing your build

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Yes I hear the fit is very good. Next video will be the start of the build.

[@stuka97]

Well , now that they are closing there doors and will no longer be in business I would say Yes there kits are worth it and if you have checked EBay lately the price on all Wingnut Wings Kits have gone way up!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Yes I have seen kits selling in a panic for absurd prices. Luckily I managed to get one of each of the subjects I was interested in before the doors closed and the prices went through the roof.

[@Duececoupe]

Sounds like what I'm suffering with my '13'....eeerrmmmm....addiction! Have you built it yet? No more relatives to sell....then you move on to the kidneys etc., etc.. Great video, entertaining as always!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Just starting the build...

[@Willyoustandintheend]

Yeah there also not an everyday kit if you want a ww1 plane with good quality also look at eduard they are a good start in to this area of the hobby also start with the 1/48 and 1/32

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Yes I have a few Eduard WWI aircraft and have build threads on them.. along with Airfix and Roden. The later I’ve been collecting most of their 1:32nd scale aircraft.

[@andreagabrielle5760]

Mucho palabrerio muchacho me sacaste las ganas de ver el video

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

So true

[@johncrome1605]

Harry, you could sell one of those kits any day Haha. Nice review BTW.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Not selling any of mine... I just fondle them at night time before going to bed!

[@johncrome1605]

Harry Houdini Models You would make an excellent salesman Harry, you sold the Brand to me, I am convinced!.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

I only speak my truth... if I like something I share it... now let’s talk about Tamiya kits... which despite so many other people admiring I simply loath!

[@richardxaveriusworang3679]

your background is my Wetdreams

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Model for 5 decades and spend all your money on the hobby then you might get one too... but honestly... I have more kits than I can ever build in what's left of my lifetime.. just buy what you need and enjoy what you have.

[@timorvet1]

Hearing you mate....lol

[@theblytonian3906]

My thoughts. Fortunately for WNW, the average 1914-1918 scout size finds itself most amenable to this scale generally. WNW are undeniably dream kits, but other than perhaps the one off, not for even the average to keen lifetime plastic modeller unless both a zealous aficionado and enthralled with the 1914-1918 period focus. Definitely niche. I favour 1/48th scale generally in aircraft, and Eduard's rendition of First World War subjects generally still meets my criteria at every level, from the compromise of display presence vs display & storage space size, through detail, but most importantly, price. But in 2019, price in particular, and availability of WNW kits are a problem for me. I very nearly nearly dipped my feet in the WNW water to buy my first WNW kit back when they were direct marketed out of NZ including postage even though favouring the US market with trading in USD and all inclusive postage. But sleeping on it, as fate would have it a few days prior to pressing the buy button, WNW jacked up their price and added a separate inflated single set rate p&p again favouring the US market. To add ultimate insult to injury, they were now out of stock on the kit I actually wanted. Now in 2019, the whole distribution, availability and pricing model ensures they'll be a very niche buyer kits AFAIC. I do appreciate them for what they are, but they're simply too pricey to tempt me to consider them given the many, many equally appealing far better value to me air, armour, marine or figurine alternatives and other interests that stretch my modelling and leisure budget $$$ *a lot* further.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thank goodness we won't see you building WNW then. My thoughts :)

[@Juzgames]

if u have the penny then why not try a wing nut in ur lifetime no harm.n yes worth it..good kit

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

They are

[@willabe566]

I might have seen some in my hobby shop so is it worth it?

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

You will be lucky to see them in any hobby shop because Weta (Wingnut Wings retail) only sell from New Zealand and through few authorised distributors world wide. Yes they are worth it if you can afford them, at either Weta retail or good second hand deals.. just avoid the over inflated double and triple prices on eBay!

[@willabe566]

Harry Houdini Models ok :)

[@stuka97]

They ( Wingnut Wings ) set a new standard the fact they are no longer is such a loss for all of us they will be very much missed always looked foreword to new releases and future subjects really disappointing.!!

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Meng were subcontracted by WNW to design some new models including the Dr.I which they have just released as a Meng kit. There may yet be more releases despite WNW shutdown.

[@thomaszaccone3960]

I wish to God somebody would buy their molds and start making them again. Existing kits are far too pricey.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Meng tried it, with poor quality control, very cheap instructions and presentation. Took the shine off what could have been a fine Dr.I kit. As it was, Peter Jackson was losing money on most kits due to all the extensive research and expensive design process he asked to be done for each model. Who knows if the original moulds will ever be sold on. Or the stockpiled kits released to the market.

[@thomaszaccone3960]

@@HarryHoudiniModels Real shame. Beautiful models.

[@karencopp5130]

I had a look at prices for them and they cost upwards of £155

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Not when they first came out.. I only paid £25 for mine then... now WNW has shut down prices have gone through the roof.

[@splod44]

Pretty fair dinkum review , the thing that stops me buying one is my modeling skills which are still neophyte level ...one day. Are you going to build that thunderbird 3 in your stash any time soon Mr. Tracy ? sub

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Thanks Splod44. I have started the interior and found it a very easy kit to assemble. The hard part will be doing the wood effects inside. Apart from that the W.12 build is pretty straight forward, almost like a Tamiya kit, just a lot more pretty. I have assembled, painted and decaled the Thunderbird 3, but I'm still to complete the weathing. Photos are on my Facebook Page. facebook.com/pg/HHModels/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1755133158100180

[@darronhedges5873]

again.I bought the rare dragon tiger it was so cheap...i done it again.But i keep coming back to drool.Soon wnws i swear, a lot.No i promise....gotta be more fun than this bren carrier.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Drool away... then wipe it up

[@oddballsok]

price is "five or six sheckels" ?? How much is that in real life USD ?

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

must have forgot to add the rates in thsi video: Shekel conversions 4 Shekels = $30 USD 3 Shekels = $20 Euros 2 Shekels = £5 Pounds 1 Shekel = $10 AUD 1 Shekel = 800 Yen 1 Shekel = 500 Rupees 1 Shekel = 500 Rubles

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

The first appearance of the shekel was in ancient Mesopotamia in 3000 BC. The name shekel was based on the Akkadian she, which was the early name for barley. Barley was used as the original medium of weight-and the shekel was equal in weight to 180 grains of barley, or around 11 grams.

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

because this is an Internationl platform and it would be pointless to say dollars, when I mean Aussie dollars, I instead use the fictitious Shekel as a way to compare prices in simple numbers... I paid 5 shekels, retail price was 15 shekels, but scalp price on eBay is as much as 30 shekels.

[@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling]

i love this system, it certainly makes people think you are a nutter at the first glance, but on the second it turns out this is not quite true :D people often ask me "how much is it in dollar" and im like "i have euros and i do not care how much it is in dollars, google the exchange rate yourself".

[@willabe566]

Hamilkar Barkas just pure laziness to be honest, another that annoys me is when people ask 'where can I get this kit?' It's super annoying and quite lazy, you just type the name on your search engine and go on the shopping category.

[@oddballsok]

Ha, the Wingnut Felixstowe F2a late, box shows the resultant of the encounter between the two airplanes... Is that Wingnut humour ? or is it .. (..yah, for 229 usd a box ..you can afford a gifted boxart narrative artist.)

[@oddballsok]

remarkable...all the Wingnut ww1 planes winning a confrontation with a burning enemy in the background are british...the german planes (or french) never have a "kill" on their own box... Who are these Wingnut people ?

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

see below I found at least 4 German planes shooting down allied aircaft in their artwork www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3111

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Roland shows British plane shot down www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3107

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Pfalz also shows allied plane shot down www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3043

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Eindecker IV shows F2B shot down www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3048

[@meauxjeaux431]

I just got the W/W Ships Camel last Thursday, and Just looking at the sprues, my feeling is that it is NOT WORTH IT ! Had it been a larger scale, like 1/24 then MAYBE it would be. Although I have not unpackaged the sprues, my first impression is that it doesn't look much different than any other model. Once I build it, I may feel differently, but at over $50.00 more....NOPE, NO WAY JOSE !

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

The Camel is their bottom line model.. basic but is still the best quality 1:32 Camel you can buy. If you got it for $50 then that was a bargain.. official retail is $79 USD and I had to pay $110 AUD for mine. Once you have had the experience of building it, let me know if you still feel the same..

[@meauxjeaux431]

You misread what I paid for it Harry, I said at over $50.00 MORE.... That meant $50.00 more than other 1/32 kits, (although Roden may be expensive too, but I haven't checked). I wish it was only $50.00, because I paid $80.00 USD. Thanks for the info on it being the bottom line kit, because I didn't know that. Like I said, once I start to build it, I may feel differently, because I am only going by a quick visual of the kit, and I my be wrong. I hope so, because I never saw anybody dog any kit made by them who has actually built one. My opinion, at this point, is an uneducated one, and means absolutely NOTHING yet !

[@HarryHoudiniModels]

Sorry I did miss read your $50. I have already built the interior of my Wingnut Wings seaplane and was very impressed with the quality of the fit and features in the kit. There are 2 videos on my channel about this. Many people have online videos about the brand, even Andys Hobby headquarters build the new Albatros DV ($89 USD) which is a slighly nicer kit than your Camel. Worth a look as he is just an average modeller and gives a frank appraisal plus shows the entire build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnbbfZyhdq2WbZI

[@meauxjeaux431]

Thanks Harry, going watch now.