Don Henley & Eagles have changed their tune. Literally.

[@wingsofpegasus]

Hi everyone! Even though my video was 19 minutes and 49 seconds in length, the video gets cut off at 17 minutes 42 seconds. I have literally no explanation as to why that is, but I'll try and get the full version working with another upload soon.

[@CalJennings]

I wondered what happened. 😂

[@cindi1313]

I blame Ken Tamplin! 😂 I’m kidding, I’m kidding!🤣

[@veramilton833]

​@@cindi1313LOL! So do I.😂😂

[@CJMarketman]

🤔🤔🤔

[@monikat2327]

Gremlins. Like always

[@caroliamurri3872]

Happy you called this out! Most fans don't care if your voice ages, we want authenticity! Thanks Fil!

[@christiansmakingmusic777]

Authenticity went out the window in the fifties. Somewhere under the surface of all this criticism is the green-eyed monster. I don’t think guys like Don Henley in his seventies need to be embarrassed to sing along to the studio recordings of what 25 year old Don did fifty years ago. Whether I agree with his politics, his choice in musical expression or not, he gave himself away in some sense for music. The need to jump through hoops of Internet fetish mongers is over for him and most other accomplished artists.

[@ToddSauve]

@@christiansmakingmusic777 Except it may end up in a Millie Vanilli like legal mess where the Eagles get sued for fraud. Because that is exactly what it is. Not presenting a genuinely sung live performance yet charging astronomical prices and claiming you are. I personally won't attend another Eagles concert again.

[@johnchristianjr]

Lolz… some dude in this thread thinking jealousy is the root of all of this. What a terrible take.

[@tonepilot]

I agree with you. Look at David Gilmour’s new music. Not the same range or tone but still great to listen to.

[@denisegore1884]

Especially considering what tickets to their concerts cost.

[@gregoryagogo]

Fil, you're doing important work! You're definitely making an impact on this modern bad fad of pitch correction/autotune!

[@Kahuna54]

So glad you stick to your guns with this! It’s not right to pay to see these bands (and the tickets aren’t cheap) perform live only to get lip syncing!

[@SDsailor7]

Thats why i will stick with the Warning, they are the real deal 💯%

[@lawrencebrissenden]

Using 1970s slang, is it live - or is it Memorex? Eagles are Memorex.

[@nomoresaul]

My mom just used this “70s slang” the other day talking about the fact there is no way to prove anything on the news is true unless you were there yourself.

[@johnmorgan7947]

😅💯💥

[@totallyfrozen]

Using 1970’s slang. This is jive!

[@keensoundguy6637]

For those of us who tried Memorex tapes in the 70s, we found it was crap and thereafter avoided it, preferring to stick with TDK and Maxell. They did, however, have clever cases, but that had no effect on the quality of the tape.

[@lawrencebrissenden]

@@keensoundguy6637 But, Memorex had the best ad agency.

[@batmojuice5704]

Anyone remember Millie Vanilli getting tarred and feathered. Maybe they didn’t have the right talent, but these guys do. I’m not paying several $100 to hear recordings.

[@FrankBarnwell-xi8my]

Those guys have paid back their embarrassment. They are resting in peace.

[@ricomajestic]

@@FrankBarnwell-xi8my Only one of them is dead and the other guy learned to sing and now he sings live with his true voice.

[@timduch1]

in some cases 10,000 US dollars a ticket for concerts, can you imagine? I would not be able to afford such a thing, but I certainly don't want to pay to see someone lip-synching etc. my hubby plays with a local band. It is so fun, and they are really very good - even surprised me - so I will go see them and bands like them and put a donation in. Of course, I live in Mississippi - we moved from Philly - and I found that are lots of incredibly talented musicians here who have day jobs and play gigs in little shacks - literally - for fun in the evenings. Maybe it is because with no internet or even phone lines, there really isn't much else to do here.

[@davidcritchley3509]

Are there awards for great miming?🤣

[@phillipmarlowe0525]

Ashlee Simpson had her singing career destroyed by lip synching on tv. People were very mad. Now days seems most don’t care.

[@danlowe8684]

Henley just went into studio and cut a dozen takes to put into rotation with hopes of making it Fil proof!!

[@dcallan812]

🤣That could be closer to the truth than we know.

[@elizabethmiller7291]

Ha! Just had the same thought. At least, as far as the new versions Fil looked at in this video, the takes aren't pitch-corrected like in Fil's original analysis...

[@ericzeichert511]

If Fil is making them work that hard to commit a fraud on the listening public, then his work is very much worth it.

[@LuvHrtZ]

[@CynVee]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@W0rdsandMus1c]

I have just watched on KZbin a Live Peter Frampton concert that was on the 13th September, two and a quarter hours long and Peter has to sit down because of a muscle wasting disease, he is 74 and still plays and sings all Live, no miming or auto tune, I recommend it to anyone who is a fan of Peter, the loveliest, humble man.

[@geoff-l3v]

Yes he's a man of brilliance all around.

[@RickReasonnz]

He's still going? Damn. Legend.

[@darcyperkins7041]

I saw it. And when he picked up his guitar and started playing he instantly became 40 years younger!

[@garybackstrom183]

I love Peter He still delivers

[@thornbird6768]

Absolutely , America are also doing the same with no enhancements , I'd like to see an analysis like this on Gerry Beckley ! Fil has reviewed them before but only as a live performance , he didn't use this equipment as a comparison ! Daisy Jane would be a good choice .

[@donmoore7785]

OMG they aren't even playing the instruments. Total rip off. Just put up cardboard cutouts.

[@matcoffidis1135]

I know, right? This is rediculous....

[@rwieber79]

And just think about the ridiculous prices they're charging people for those "shows" too!!! Rip off is an understatement. This is theft by deception!!!

[@garylufc]

@@matcoffidis1135 "rediculous"??? What is that?!

[@pathologicusmaximus]

@@garylufc What do you think?

[@LuvHrtZ]

Hehe, it does explain that flawless acoustic version of Hotel California, doesn't it?

[@alexanderlyon]

I suspect they just swapped out one pre-recorded vocal for another prerecorded vocal. When they last played it live legitimately, it was tuned down a whole step. I doubt Henley would go back up to the original key years later after singing it lower for years.

[@ToddSauve]

Don Henley probably _can't_ sing it in the original key now that he's in his 70s.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

@@ToddSauve he could bring down an out-of-reach note by going down a third. No shame in that. A 70 year old Ella sang as well if not better than her 20 year old self.

[@ToddSauve]

@@mademsoisellerhapsody Yes, with the honest older bands you hear it all the time. But the Eagles? Well ...

[@prd004.2]

🎯 exactly! Nobody lowers the key to help the singer and then go back to the original key years later

[@nomoresaul]

I downloaded that app, and tried to sing the exact same thing twice. Turned out completely different. Maybe I’m just bad at singing. So I snapped my fingers twice. This _also_ turned out as two completely differently shaped lines. You can’t even replicate a simple *snap* perfectly. Think about that.

[@jessehutchings]

That's a great experiment

[@Kougeru]

you downloaded AN app. Probably some free/cheap one, not the good one

[@pathologicusmaximus]

@@KougeruAre you suggesting that the good app wouldn't show similar results?

[@abc456f]

​@Kougeru Fil uses the free app, vocal pitch monitor.

[@GoToExtremes]

I have played keyboards in bands for 30+ years. It is impossible to match performances. Humans are not perfect and we are affected by moods, PA system, health, etc.

[@Lamster66]

LoL I have also played Keyboards in bands for as long, If you analysed it its practically impossible match the repeated parts of a song. As for Two or three performances of the same song at rehearsals being identical forget it. As you say PA settings foldback equipment changes moods health and state of sobriety all have an effect.

[@WastedPo]

@@don-music - this isn't what they are saying. They aren't saying they can't put out a quality performance every time. They're saying they can't put out a literally IDENTICAL performance every time.

[@don-music]

@@WastedPothank you, misunderstood! Deleted my comment, admitting my error. Apologies to the prior commenter!

[@don-music]

I posted a comment that i have since deleted cuz i misunderstood your meaning. All good!

[@WastedPo]

@@don-music - It's all good. It's nice (and rare) when people admit their mistakes.

[@Sum_Yousah]

Fun fact: Pegasus flew higher than any Eagle ever did.

[@torunnowe8835]

❤😂❤

[@martymartin2894]

Pegasus isn't real he's fake.

[@nomoresaul]

@@martymartin2894True, but on the other hand, the myth of Pegasus was likely inspired by the desire for a flying mode of transportation, so in a way, airplanes are all pegasuses.

[@michaelharrington75]

Icarus flew even higher

[@martymartin2894]

@@nomoresaul I know I love those old Greek mythology stories I was just saying fake because of the videos all being about fakery in music.

[@mindless-pedant]

So, not so much Lyin' Eyes but more Lyin Ears.

[@ToddSauve]

Here in the West I think it would be called "singing with a forked tongue!" LOL!

[@Kathmak]

Lol!😅

[@KyleS.1987]

The idea that they've got a monster like Vince Gill on guitar and he might just be miming along with a track makes me a little sick.

[@elizabethmiller7291]

And, if the Eagles are doing it, what other classic rock artist is doing it? Takes the fun right out of attending a concert when you have to be thinking - are these live vocals and instruments being played or miming to backing tracks.

[@Enricopalazzo69]

Just don't tell me Bob Seger

[@3rscrafting]

I can't believe Vince gill would go along with that. He has massive talent, but like joecwalsh, he's just a hired gun ... with massive talent.

[@ManchurianCounterweight]

me too, big time.

[@AnalogueInTheUK]

Con Henley will be LIVID when he sees/hears this gem. Thanks for busting this industry myth. Hopefully something good will eventually come out of it. Awesome work, bro.

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

What a mess we have seen our Fil help to expose over the last month or so. While it is difficult to see all this, it is necessary for the integrity of the music industry.

[@SuziQ.]

*bonk

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

@@SuziQ. 🤗to you and 🐕

[@christiansmakingmusic777]

Fil always seems a nice fellow to me, but it’s not likely that he is THE voice keeping integrity in music. Eventually this gig is going to fade. I hope he keeps making music. I’m sure he never intended to be the guy who reads the pitch monitoring charts on the nightly news.

[@SuziQ.]

@@christiansmakingmusic777, While I also hope that Fil keeps making music, I appreciate his efforts to promote transparency in the music industry. His petition needs more exposure. He’s got something else in the works, too.

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

@@SuziQ. ... Were The Kitty to have the POWA to ❤your comment... I would do so 😸Will you settle for a 🐈bonk and a * boop * ? 🤔

[@DebWittner1]

Long time viewer. And long time fan of you calling these guys out. I always make sure to pass this information along to people who may not know. Also -- my opinion? It's a backing track. If they'll do it with the vocals, why wouldn't they do it with the instrumentals? Thank you, Fil.

[@PaulAndrew-fp2qg]

The Eagles got to the end of the video and want to know if they got away with using a backing track. The thing that annoys me is we have tribute bands who do what the original artists can't or won't do anymore which is sing and play live. We expect the original artists to have higher standards than that.

[@elizabethmiller7291]

And, ironically, many of those tribute bands take a beating at the hands of the fans who mockingly call them "just tribute bands".

[@southerncomfortuk]

Very true👍 Perhaps that’s why the Eagles don’t allow anyone to cover their songs on KZbin.

[@TracyN67]

Fil, the video cuts off at the end. You’re in the middle of speaking. Great analysis though!

[@BernardProfitendieu]

Don Henley found him!

[@OceanbornAngel]

We're probably going to hear that he is a missing person now.

[@patrickjordan2233]

Personally, if fans want to go to a "canned" performance (shrug)? It's their $ after all .. BUT? Commiting fraud? Via misrepresentation? I can see why the band & management are defensive... There's several hundred million potentially @ stake (in the event of an adverse law ruling..).. "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

[@rossmurray6849]

You did very well, Fil, to maintain a straight face at 12:46 when you said, "I would like to think that this isn't all a backing track ... but ..."

[@Weirdbloke1]

..but it looks like the whole show is mimed?

[@crabbygrrl]

I have absolutely no musical ability. Last time I did anything musical was singing in my high school choir and I'm 63 years old now. I failed at learning the piano and the guitar in my youth. However, I understand your presentations and can see how right you are in cases of lip-synced or mimed vocals. I find what you do fascinating as someone with more of a science background (I edited scientific publications for many many years) I can see when the data doesn't lie. So I'm not sure how so many professed musical experts think your data is bogus or that you are motivated by envy or an evil desire for capturing views. Keep on telling the truth!

[@TonyCo1962]

I'm the same age as you and I was an abject musical failure as well. I cannot hear the difference from one key to the other. But I have an academic background in business and yes data trumps what an individual thinks or feels.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

Ella sang live without vocal enhancement into her 70’s. So did Ernestine Anderson. These are musicians who sing. Singers are like birds. We’re in it for the s-o-u-n-d

[@hnc52]

Ernestine shout out! I saw Nancy Wilson s last NYC show in 2011. She said she had one more show and was stopping. I loved Nancy Wilson for many reasons; her stopping while still ""on her game" was admirable.

[@paulwatson9217]

Tom Jones in his 80’s still live still excellent! If they can’t do it PACK IN!

[@janedaniel7288]

Being huge Eagles fan for goodness 50+ years I find this so, so sad. If I was lucky enough to ever afford a ticket to see them would want to hear them singing live. Live performances are not meant to be record quality, but paying so much I would feel betrayed not to hear live singing. I might as well watch a video in the comfort of my front room and it would be a lot cheaper! Cheers Fil, for all you do. Thoroughly enjoy the channel. Long Live LIVE music! 🤘

[@SixStringHarmonies]

Gotta be careful with analyzing Don Henley or the Eagles. He is extremely litigious, to foolish levels, and are always submitting copyright claims. He apparently doesn't accept the legal concept of Fair Use.

[@maryseflore7028]

So, he's a bully. Is that a reason to cater to his whims? Don't ever reward bad behaviour with good outcomes, eh...

[@ricomajestic]

I wouldn't see a Don Henley concert or his fake eagles band if they gave me free tickets!

[@donmoore7785]

Fil is well aware.

[@SuziQ.]

It’s been the better part of a year since Fil first addressed the problem with Desperado (and possibly the entire set list played by the Eagles). Henley (not Fil, but Don) can’t do anything about what Fil has presented, because it’s true.

[@tonydalton459]

@@SuziQ.Certainly looks like he doesn’t want this argued out in court.

[@richardwilliamshare]

Henley's ego just won't let him admit to miming.

[@TheBrettWilson]

Same ego as Ken Tamplin

Just say it for God's sake... the Eagles believe they are entitled to our $$ with minimal effort. What a joke.

[@zephyrbear]

They’re probably even using Randy Meisner’s bass recordings too… 🙄

[@chuckm4540]

And Don Felder's guitar tracks.

[@doubler8684]

I'm okay with bands using slightly MINOR backing tracts in live performances to make a slightly fuller sound. The thing I would not be okay with is a completely fraudulent live concert (lip and instrument synching) that I paid good money to see. Just don't deny or cover up using backing fill tracts and don't defraud your fans that make your living.

[@GoToExtremes]

I continue to be amazed at how many people are fooled by these FAKE live performances. That is a full music track all the way...even the drums.

[@scottmatznick3140]

Watching before Fil goes missing...

[@Sum_Yousah]

The wings of Pegasus are stronger than the wings of any Eagle ever 🦅💪😁🪽

[@vls3771]

And. Eagles Lawyers know to only agree to a fight they can win ...so they Fly away....

[@vls3771]

And Eagles lawyers know only agree to a fight they can win or Fly away ....

[@staniredale9643]

tip of the iceberg I'm thinking.

[@chateaubullion2560]

I only listen to the Eagles of old. With Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner and Don Felder. After Don Felder left, that was it for me.

[@ALong-fo5so]

I quit when Meisner left. That was it for me

[@Pladderkasse]

I don't get it. If they don't feel like their abilities are up to scratch anymore and they've made all the money in the world, won the Grammys, played all the cool places AND is edging towards nursing home age. Why cheat? Why don't they just call it a day and go home and spend time with the grand kids?

[@RandomScreenAlias]

Greed? Ego?

[@nikkic9305]

In my mind it begs the question if they ever were really authentic. I just don't know anymore.

[@veramilton833]

Hi Fil, FIghting the good fight for honesty in the music world! You have done a great job on yet another Eagles video! You are doing great work, Fil! Thanks for bringing this to us! Yes, they have literally changed their tune! However, have they forgotten how to play their instruments and now have to rely on click tracks and backing tracks ??? Good one , Fil! 💜

[@redneckcoder]

I listened to an Eagles album once. I don't remember what it sounded like because they copyright struck my memory and had it wiped.

[@deepzepp4176]

Lol

[@gregoryagogo]

Fil, I just LOVE the way you say, "...and subscribe". LOL

[@MikeH_PR]

Subscerrrribe!

[@tiotheberk]

The eagles are such legends, no one wants to hear a digital voice.. the human voice can’t be matched….yet. At what point are they defrauding customers who are paying for a live show and hearing a studio recording??

[@ToddSauve]

As soon as you hand over your hundreds of dollars for a LIVE IN CONCERT performance, that's when!

[@uoabigaillevey]

The rap/hiphop genre addressed this at some point (because they blatantly use pre-recorded vocals and just jump in and out of vocals at whatever points they choose to) .. they claimed 'it's a stageshow/party' so the vocals are not important.. the audience is basically there to have a good time effectively partying with the artist. Something along those lines... but as a metalhead I would never pay to see something like that.. might as well just have the artist stand motionless on stage while the pre-recorded bits play in the background at that point.

[@ricomajestic]

All sound is digitize nowadays and has been since back in the 80s when CDs came out. Digitizing sound doesn't make a singer better. That is not the issue that Fil is going over in this video.

[@BinanceStuff]

​@@ToddSauveyeah... it ain't rocket surgery! 😅😅😅

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Were legends. Not Are legends. When a legend turns sour and spoils it's legacy, the legend becomes an ex-legend.

[@glenrotchin5523]

Why bother hiring professional musicians?

[@totallyfrozen]

Concerts done like this should be 100% FREE of charge. Selling tickets to stuff like this should be criminal.

[@Kwert]

Played a show with them as a background musician a few years ago. We had to sign NDAs (this was weird in its own right as no other group I’ve played background for has ever done this…), so all I can say is, “I can neither confirm nor deny that almost the entire show may or may not have been playback”. Take that as you will.

[@TheBrettWilson]

Did you "play" in Ken Tamplin's band also?

[@martymartin2894]

What instrument did u play

[@rodwilliams4170]

I played a show with them too, and i wasn’t even there

[@guitarman704]

Hear you loud and clear! 😉

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Eagles Inc. they been running like a corporation a long time.

[@davehall8584]

The Eagles..."quick!..take down the incriminating video evidence which proves our cheating!"....this is indeed the action of TRUE Desperados!....concert ticket purchasers should SUE them.

[@BROKENBOILER1]

I’ve analysed isolated vocals from Hotel California and Boys of Summer from 20th and 21st and they are identical.

[@dybsoetv]

You are keeping music (a)live! 🙌💪😊🤘

[@tnmoppylaura5476]

Definitely different vocals. Thanks Fil.

[@universalassociates6857]

Yes! "...Perform it fully live. Do away with the backing track as well. Actually play everything. And sing." It that too much to ask for the paying public?

[@carlsanders7824]

Yes, because they cannot live up to the former selves. In a few years, you will pay to see holograms singing these songs.

[@davidcritchley3509]

Seems so!

[@cornfilledscreamer614]

@@carlsanders7824 That's not true. Sincerely, Kiss

[@carlsanders7824]

@@cornfilledscreamer614 Yes, they cannot perform at the level the fans want, or they would NOT resort to lip-syncing.

[@RSVPini]

It seems as though the Eagles forgot how to play their instruments and sing at the same time. I guess after they were discovered to not be singing, they tried singing and performing live and realized they couldn't. They seem to have solved their problem by using a karaoke machine.

[@KnightOwl23]

As a retired musician that lives for listening these days, Any fan of any given artist or group has probably listened too their albums so many times that any deviation in a live set stands out. That's a good thing. If fans wanted to hear a perfect reply of a studio album, why would we pay so much to hear it in a crowd? Atmosphere? I say of course that's a major part of any gig, but we want it all! A recent costello gig was criticised in the press as he was doing "real live" stripped back versions without a full band which in lnuded some old songs. He sang live and they seemed to want him to jump around, full group, like he did 48 years ago! 😂 voices mature, people age. The late Johnny Cash's voice on "Hurt" a cover he sang within the last 12 months of his life which was great and emotional but so much deeper voice than his early songs. Guess my waffle is trying to say. "Keep it Real, Keep it live". You can love the original songs but if you don't like a new style or a voice change it's OK too. Please make sure artists don't feel pressure to be something they are not anymore. Love Live❤

[@anngulliver5964]

Johnny Cash's version of Hurt never fails to make me cry 😢

[@paddyohenry6428]

They should be sued for fraud.

[@cindi1313]

Fil, the ending of the video seems to be cut off.

[@MikeH_PR]

So The Eagles have been a karaoke band in recent years 🤷‍♀

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

Miming is frowned upon also in karaoke.

[@Sum_Yousah]

Not quite accurate I guess? Isn't the whole idea of Karaoke to sing LIVE to a pre-recorded track in front of an audience?

[@ricomajestic]

They're not even singing!

[@kevinklein959]

How are you posting these video comparisons without Henley suing your ass off?....lol It's obvious that their miming their vocals and musical performances...so sad because I thought Vince Gill and Joe Walsh had more integrity as musicians than to play to recordings! We already know that Henley has no integrity or musical morals....🤔

[@brendac742]

Come on Mr Henley. You think,no one is smarter than you? And Vince Gill. I thought better of you. You think Glenn Frey son quit because of the old phony’s?

[@wout123100]

silly to sue if you know you are not right, only going to cost you.

[@kathypatterson6813]

How do u sue someone for telling the truth?

[@allenrwhite]

I’ve lost a lot of respect for Vince Gill over all this. He knows what is going on.

[@don7294]

They won't sue due to a little thing called discovery. Fil's attornies would be entitled to copies of live performances etc. which the Eagles know are fake, to prepare for the court case.

[@SandraWhite-rs7ge]

We are going to see ELO in October. I would be saddened if I knew they mimed, but I don’t think they will. Jeff Lynn is a master at what he does.

[@wildmountainthyme4123]

Jeff is a genius! I just saw ELO earlier this month, and what a fantastic concert. Have a great time!

[@SandraWhite-rs7ge]

@@wildmountainthyme4123 thank you. We got to see another Traveling Wilbury, Tom Petty, on the band’s 40th anniversary tour. And this is ELO’s final tour. Can’t wait!

[@PeteC62]

Apart from seeing the original lineup at Wembley Empire Pool in 1978, I've seen Jeff's new version play twice in the US (Oakland and San Jose). Brilliant experience every time! Sad that I won't be able to make it to what might well be his last tour.

[@MostEasterlySteve]

ELO practically invented miming to a tape. I think a venue (possibly in Detroit if I remember correctly) sued them in the '70s. The whole show was just a tape. As I understand it the thing that gave them away was the fact that two shows on consecutive nights took the same amount of time, to the second. There are reports of Jeff Lynn and his bandmates taking liberties by openly talking to one another and joking around whilst they were supposed to be 'singing'. To be fair to them I think Jeff Lynn was frustrated back then because the technology didn't really exist for them to be able to replicate some of the sonic effects from their records when performing live, so they used a tape.

[@PeteC62]

@@MostEasterlySteve I first heard Siouxsie Sioux make this claim on Peter Powell's show back in the 1980s. As Peter said then "Well they weren't miming when I saw them!" Jeff Lynne has always been open about their use of backing tracks for the special effects that would be impossible to reproduce live, but I'm not aware of anyone showing that they mimed to vocals. Even when i saw them in 1978 Jeff avoided the highest notes in the chorus of Telephone Line because he knew he couldn't reach them reliably live.

[@slunt3123]

If you wanted to hear exactly the same performance, you would simply listen to the same recording over and over. What an artist can do with a song from performance to performance is what is so beautiful. I don’t understand why the music industry thinks we want to listen to robots. Love what you are doing to bring awareness.

[@ToddSauve]

The "music industry" couldn't care less whether you live or die. They just want as much of your money as they can part from you.

[@slunt3123]

@@ToddSauve Very true. Guess it is up to the artists and their fans. Athletes have done it, so there is hope.

[@DAVID-io9nj]

Has more to do with mainstream music is full of performers with poor musical abilities. Most are unable to come close to what their polished, enhanced studio cuts present.

[@andyharpist2938]

Phil takes 16 minutes to call out this. How much did the fans pay to listen to a live CD?

[@nikkic9305]

Just so you know for future reference, his name is spelled Fil and not Phil.

[@PeterCamberwick]

Hi Phil.I can't remember if you did a video about Frankie Valli lipsyncing, which he's been doing for years. But when you talked at the end about being caught out, clearly Frankie and his people don't care about that. He's been using the same vocal tracks for years. But still he has fans who fiercely deny it.

[@jefftaylor844]

What's wrong with paying hundreds of dollars to go watch a band lip-sync ! 😂😂😂

[@davidcritchley3509]

Maybe they are part of a miming competition?

[@TruthSurge]

The fact that you have to EXPLAIN an X/Y graph plotting of pitch across time is a bit sad. That's something you learn in 7th grade when you learn the Cartesian coordinate system. Or that you need to explain how two graph plottings look different enough to be two different vocal events. When basically NONE of the lines match, you would think a person would understand that these are two DIFFERENT vocal events, not one recording. But good for Don actually singing for a change.

[@bofuscrapshaw]

Just means he may still be lip syncing but just to a recording that you don’t have for reference

[@zephyrbear]

That cut off a bit sharpish Fil… you were mid-sentence!

[@ashleycox432]

The higher the cost of the ticket, the less of the music is actually live.

[@jessehutchings]

This is so wild that this has become a commonplace thing in the music industry. The entire reason I am so passionate about music is BECAUSE of the uphill battle to be good live. Everything else is just studio work and money.

[@jw4321]

Oh boy, here we go again. 😮

[@patrickjordan2233]

*a song from Whitesnake....

[@timduch1]

cant wait to hear the whole thing - nice to know you may be making a difference

[@nickrider5220]

Helping to keep music real - thanks Fil 👍🏻

[@lazur1]

If we played every Eagles show at the same time, it'd sound like 1 band playing 1 show, no doubling, no delay, no echo, no chorus.

[@johnnyice256]

If you need a bodyguard drop me a line...lol.

[@rustyaxelrod]

If it’s a fake performance we should be able to pay for the tickets with fake money.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

FWIW, as part of Don Henley's testimony to Congress, he talked about how he *hires* people to monitor social networking and shutdown any unauthorized copies of his songs. I forget how many he hires. And I do think it's important to show the data when that demonstrates that the performances are *different,* in addition to the ones where the audio is exactly the same. I'll give an extra 👍 thumbs up for doing this.

[@BernardProfitendieu]

can you imagine that being your job? ugh, how boring

[@ToddSauve]

It is reported to be 60.

[@guitarman704]

I heard it's 60 people he hires.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

@@guitarman704 - ‼- I was going to say 40, but was afraid that number was way too high!

[@BernardProfitendieu]

@@ToddSauve wow! I wonder how many psychologists are on his case?

[@xanden1]

Lip synching belongs on RuPaul’s Drag Race, not at a concert!

[@jerryflick7187]

Some artist pre-record their Live vocals prior to that show or have several recorded versions & switch them up. Every sound engineer here in the U.S. that has run sound for top artists has to sign a confidentiality agreement about the backing tracks, Lip Syncing etc...

[@flaelna]

Ok, so their whole performance is one giant backing track. Unreal 😂

[@simonnorth5008]

Nice one Fil. Unbelievable! Keep up the good work 👍

[@metoo7557]

The most expensive pre recording you'll ever pay for.

[@heather8374]

you got cut off mid sentence... also, we can only see the 'mess' of vocals for a second or so before it cuts off/the recommended videos cover it up.

[@lrmyvlstl8905]

I experienced the same thing.

[@andyharpist2938]

You can go see Abba in concert I think now and they aren't even there! Maybe never were.

[@SueTube7]

Yes but ABBA Voyage is deliberately digital. And it's not the same as all those managers rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of 'hologram' concerts featuring the likes of Elvis Presley, Tupac or Amy Winehouse, all of whom are dead & not able to speak for themselves.

[@guitarplayer5932]

if these videos were not true they would have already filed a cease and desist order, good job fil

[@billb.7346]

So basically they have a new recording to lip sync too.

[@grudarts]

Unfortunately authenticity is disappearing in our world. Live performances are being put into question now. Sad!

[@patrickmoreau7592]

Are you saying that Joe Walsh is not singing live 😂😂 Great video because I suspected them of this because they are not in their 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, and so on Thanks again.

[@FuturePast2019]

And they are NOT the Rolling Stones

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

Joe Walsh at The Sphere was sooooooooooooo bad....but it was him...I think !

[@andychristou6403]

......aaaaannd your video cuts off just before the latest data comparison...coincidence? Nothing to do with the Eagles im sure...

[@German_Shepherd_Mom]

“Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum” (latin). They will try and silence every last person trying to speak the truth. It is more important now than ever for all of us to stay vigilante and keep speaking the truth. Love you Fil, still watching from Washington State.

[@stephanbrunker]

At least for the drum part, it would be easy and objective proof to determine if it is the same recording if you look at the waveform in the time axis. Even with a click track, there are slight deviations which are unique. I've done this a lot for practise purposes. You can easily see if a studio recording is done with a click track (the timing is constant) but even then, it wobbles a bit in the range of 2/100s of a second relative to the clicks. Humans are not machines.

[@evanmcdonnal]

Their whole performance is just fake. They just recorded a new fake vocal in reaction to you exposing the other one as fake. What lengths they go to to defraud their audience. Shameful. Modifying the end of the song is extremely easy because there is no instrumentation. They can just let him sing then cut and paste that final piano bit to line up with the new vocal. Don Henley is no where near capable of singing this song today. He couldn’t even sing it years ago, there were performances with auto tune live where it went haywire because he missed the notes by too much. I know because I was studying this song at the time and my friend played it for me and I was taken aback by it. They’re just losers. Plus this is one of two good songs the my wrote their entire lives. Trash writers, performers and people.

[@finchharper4647]

A.I. through Microphones will soon make everyone sound perfect.

[@BrianRay-y7l]

I hope , I love to sing but cant stand hearing myself. lol

[@JMRSplatt]

For shame Eagles. Shameful removing people's videos of the fun they had at your show.

[@aaronstonebeat]

What? Actually sing and play live? Get out of here, that's for commoners!

[@123Rockchild]

ALERT: Fil, your video abruptly ends before it should.

[@elisabethaxelsson4736]

Its so sad and Its bad

[@Lobster625]

Wow, I think I would want some money back from the concert. Good you found this out! Thank you for what you do!

[@didirosner1957]

Sad …They should have left well enough alone If memory serves me correctly, “sometimes to keep it together, you got to leave it alone”

[@johnnyice256]

Sue the bastards Fil, start with The Eagles, i'll chip in to the civil case fund.

[@jekylltraveler]

I think you can help people understand better if you talk about sample rate and show the time scale. It may help people understand how unique these performances are.

[@sbbinahee]

Amazing news. Thanks Columbo er I mean FIL❤

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Johnny Cash's last recording at the death's door, at his actual age, outshines anything Eagles did their entire gold thirsty careers.

[@tonepilot]

You are creating a new understanding of live music and what it means to be a consumer of it.

[@justinanovak8040]

Totally agree.

[@bloqk16]

The Eagles without Glenn Frey ain't the Eagles anymore!

[@lloydgoldston3620]

What a let massive let down.

[@Kougeru]

in before they DMCA this video for telling the truth