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British guitarist analyses The Mamas and The Papas live in 1967!

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Wings of Pegasus

4 жыл бұрын

Tonight we're going back to 1967 to take a look at The Mama's and The Papa's!
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@rickkiebiech6088
@rickkiebiech6088 4 жыл бұрын
Mama’s and the Papa’s in ‘67. John is married to Michelle. Denny and Michelle have had a torrid affair. Cass is in love with Denny. It’s amazing the band functioned at all at this point.
@anneaires3984
@anneaires3984 4 жыл бұрын
Shades of Fleetwood Mac....both fabulous bands🇺🇸🙋❤
@paulchristian7693
@paulchristian7693 4 жыл бұрын
Sex,drugs and Rock/Roll that is the way it went. 🥳💃🏻🕺🏼
@steelbill1834
@steelbill1834 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I think John Phillips was well versed in "functioning" with some pretty twisted matters given his relationship with his daughter McKenzie.
@leahflower9924
@leahflower9924 3 жыл бұрын
how did you know cass was in love with him?
@rickkiebiech6088
@rickkiebiech6088 3 жыл бұрын
@@leahflower9924 Michelle has said it herself many times.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
Cass Elliot's voice is one of my very favorites of all time. Simply perfect.
@The5Leeses
@The5Leeses 7 ай бұрын
Envious of Cass! How I would have love to be at one of her parties in Laurel Canyon. ❤
@umarae27
@umarae27 3 ай бұрын
One of top favorites, too!
@lastone783
@lastone783 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t get any better than Mama Cass. Thanks, Fil❣️
@twochaudiomg2578
@twochaudiomg2578 4 жыл бұрын
Dude , we're not talking about sex
@E-BikingAdventures
@E-BikingAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
Twochaudio. LOL. Maybe he's into fat chicks.
@DonPeyote420
@DonPeyote420 4 жыл бұрын
her fate was a sad one :(
@user-qm7nw7vd5s
@user-qm7nw7vd5s Жыл бұрын
The “I Call Your Name” performance from this same gig is a living masterpiece. How these voices found each other is the stuff of magic…
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 4 жыл бұрын
For me, the ultimate test of any band is how they sound LIVE. When you consider this video, and realize how raw it was, lacking the kind of professional sound engineering of a studio, you realize just how good these guys really were. Amazing.
@redwoods7370
@redwoods7370 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I was thinking the same thing. Just raw great talent.
@locusmortis
@locusmortis 4 жыл бұрын
And add to the fact that live sound at festivals at that time was still a learning process, there wasn't that build up of industry experience until the early 70's
@Keefy0558
@Keefy0558 4 жыл бұрын
And the who destroyed most of it in the set before
@kylermillsap8068
@kylermillsap8068 2 жыл бұрын
They would’ve sounded better if Michelle’s mic was working.
@johncooksey8598
@johncooksey8598 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylermillsap8068 They always cut down her vocals because she sang off key
@victorseastrom3455
@victorseastrom3455 Ай бұрын
I was there as a photographer. People talk about Woodstock but this really was THE concert. Hendrix, The Birds, The Animals, Simon and Garfunkel, Otis Redding, The Who, Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin etc... Amazing. Weirdly a few years later I wound up dating the girl in the audience that you see in the close-ups. Great memories.
@georgewodicka4839
@georgewodicka4839 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the greatest music ever, Denny Doherty is SO underrated as a lead male vocalist.
@heidichristensen7919
@heidichristensen7919 4 жыл бұрын
George Wodicka I don’t think I’ve ever seen a video from them - wasn’t aware Denny sang lead on this song too. Yep, he is fabulous.
@elizabethlinsay9193
@elizabethlinsay9193 4 жыл бұрын
Right you are about Denny.
@SteppingRaven56
@SteppingRaven56 4 жыл бұрын
@@heidichristensen7919 Search them on youtube... a couple really good ones, black and white too!
@shawnagrubb9958
@shawnagrubb9958 4 жыл бұрын
Cass, and Denny had such beautiful voices ❤️
@pateagle7191
@pateagle7191 4 жыл бұрын
Monday Monday, Denny was fabulous.
@0biwan77
@0biwan77 4 жыл бұрын
It's not often noted but Cass Elliot was a distinctly light-footed and effortless dancer. In live clips where there is any room at all for her to move, Cass seems to move through the air like a fish does through water. She has a fantastically athletic, balletic response to the music, as if her weight were no impediment at all
@chrisbennett6236
@chrisbennett6236 4 жыл бұрын
Now this is a timeless classic. One of my all-time favorite songs. There harmonies were so amazing.
@isorokudono
@isorokudono 4 жыл бұрын
BARF. Tell me the number of people in Laurel Canyon that DIDN'T have "house fires". Peter Torkelson, you know PETER TORK, from the MONKEEYS? He had TWO. centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/
@michaelcook768
@michaelcook768 4 жыл бұрын
This song, some of the top Beatles tracks, Moody Blues, Bad Company, Three Dog Night...some grand music...Should be played more often.
@michaelcook768
@michaelcook768 4 жыл бұрын
@@isorokudono BARF..THEN, PLUG YOUR EFFIN EARS!
@isorokudono
@isorokudono 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcook768 like you did already?
@michaelcook768
@michaelcook768 4 жыл бұрын
@@isorokudono Fool.
@sodoffbaldrick3038
@sodoffbaldrick3038 4 жыл бұрын
The Mamas and the Papas would have gone nowhere without Cass. If you get a chance, check out her live duet with John Denver on the Midnight Special. They perform a beautiful version of "Leavin' on a Jet Plane".
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
YES! I had no idea this existed until a few years ago when I happened upon it here on YT. So beautiful!
@danithompson1693
@danithompson1693 4 жыл бұрын
Yes to the Midnight Special Cass and Denver! When I was a teenager in the 70's I used to dream that I could be John Denver's backup singer. Wasn't until 10 years ago I came across the Special video and I realized that, with the exception of one or two notes, that the harmony I created myself was the same as Cass Elliot's. Never been prouder. Lots of great live stuff from the Special.
@cheryllee81
@cheryllee81 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen it! Great stuff!
@theallseeingmaster
@theallseeingmaster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up on that performance. I am certain that I was 'out and about and up to no good' that night and never saw it until today..
@petermitchell6348
@petermitchell6348 4 жыл бұрын
She had a solo hit in the UK with a song called: Getting Better.
@Marsha0364
@Marsha0364 4 жыл бұрын
Always loved this song, the ' 60s and '70s were such a magical time like no other
@paulablissett9396
@paulablissett9396 4 жыл бұрын
Wish we had those years back, i surely do miss them...
@epipick
@epipick 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I was there and can remember it! It's when my guitar playing was more confidence than skill. I have improved!
@tjvanpopta
@tjvanpopta 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing of that class exists today!
@paulchristian7693
@paulchristian7693 4 жыл бұрын
Michelle was considered a decoration pretty girl with an average voice. Mama Cass was the glue in the group.
@cindycrenshaw-martin9849
@cindycrenshaw-martin9849 4 жыл бұрын
So true Marcia Hacker! I'm thankful I grew up during that time.
@SteffanoDucati
@SteffanoDucati 4 жыл бұрын
Denny Doherty is from my neighborhood in lil' Halifax , Nova Scotia Canada .... after all that fame and fortune he ended up back home sittin in the pub talkin to anyone who sat down ... a decent fellow and whata life he had !
@hollypinkley7936
@hollypinkley7936 2 жыл бұрын
Cass's talent & beauty inspired a whole lot of girls who didn't have "perfect body" types to reach our dreams on talent!!! especially if we sang a Mama's & Papa's song!!!! LOVETHEM - I still listen to them today!! Their songs are on my playlist 55 years later!!!! Denny has to be the most UNDERRATED singer of the era!!!!
@micheled6111
@micheled6111 4 жыл бұрын
Really missed the flute and Michelle’s harmony on this. But what a great analysis!
@MrMassivefavour
@MrMassivefavour 4 жыл бұрын
Michelle didn't do any harmony it was all Cass. She only ever started off "Dedicated to the one I love" she was just eye candy.
@obbor4
@obbor4 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMassivefavour What Mamas and the Papas have you been listening to all of these years?
@melaniefowler8841
@melaniefowler8841 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@Maltloaflegrande
@Maltloaflegrande 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMassivefavour Cass had a huge voice. Michelle's was not as powerful and here, she's too far away from the mike. It's possible she didn't hold herself in high esteem as a singer because of who she was singing alongside and thus didn't think her part was important but their records have four-part harmonies and she was part of that
@pheart2381
@pheart2381 4 жыл бұрын
I love the flute aswell,even if it is totally off pitch. Its cute.
@martyjansing2675
@martyjansing2675 4 жыл бұрын
Cass Elliot devised the plan with David Crosby to kidnap Grahm Nash from the Hollies. Cass attended a Hollies concert in LA. After the show, she got backstage and meet Grahm. She invited him to go see some friends with her. They wound up at Joni Mitchel's place in Laural Canyon. They walk in and Crosby is rolling a fattie. They chat with Crosby for a while. There's somebody banging out some wild Carribian jams on the piano in another room. Crosby tells Nash, 'hey I got somebody you need to meet. They go into the other room and its Stills on the piano. Crosby tells Stills to play a new song they were working on. It was You Don't Have to Cry. Nash asked them to do it again and then again. The third time around Nash added his vocals and Crosby, Stills, and Nash was born. To the band at hand...The Mommas and Pappas were a great vocal group for sure, with many super tunes. I've been a fan since they showed up.
@kathleenstewart409
@kathleenstewart409 4 жыл бұрын
Mama Cass had the most amazing voice. She had all this talent and so much heartbreak. Thanks for this one Fil. Maybe you'll sing the whole song one day? You sounded great!
@KatieReadsKoziesAndMore
@KatieReadsKoziesAndMore 4 жыл бұрын
See, Fil, it is just me who wants you to record this song. 🙂
@Marcel_Audubon
@Marcel_Audubon 4 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest groups ever
@JACKPAVAL
@JACKPAVAL 4 жыл бұрын
If you cant hear Michelle then one must admit how great Cass was, for her to be able to carry the vocals like she is doing . ,I, liken it to a Great Bass player holding down the bottom for a 3 lead guitar solo attack in a southern rock band. . Additionally when you can hear all of the singers in the Mama's and Papa's, the 4 voices mysteriously create the illusion of a 5th voice, or vocal. That is extremely rare.
@i.m.7710
@i.m.7710 4 жыл бұрын
I heard Michelle. She has a clear but soft voice. She was so stunningly beautiful no one really cared. Amazing arrangement. Genius.
@davedecker1725
@davedecker1725 4 жыл бұрын
I always loved those 60s vocal harmonies. Mama's, Association, Beach boys etc etc
@b42baritone
@b42baritone 4 жыл бұрын
Fil should do one on The Association.
@paulh9586
@paulh9586 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Beatles
@marypthompson6349
@marypthompson6349 13 күн бұрын
Their vocal harmonies are so uplifting.
@bryanmyers1435
@bryanmyers1435 4 жыл бұрын
Denny Doherty is one of the most underrated voices of this era. Excellent analysis, as always Fil. ✌❤ ROCK!
@Inyourspectraleyes
@Inyourspectraleyes 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Michelles microphone were probably the ones damaged from The Who’s performance where they damaged the speaker, guitar amp, and some of the microphones on stage, however i wonder how it wouldve sounded like if one of the other people on stage like john had the broken microphone or if Cass and Michelle shared their mics.
@bogan-slayer7469
@bogan-slayer7469 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think so. If the mike was damaged, it would have been extremely apparent, as she wouldn’t have been able to hear herself through the fold back. Therefore, they would have changed mikes or she could have shared Cass’s mike. Her missing vocal is more likely as a result of poor recording mixing.
@sharonn9676
@sharonn9676 4 жыл бұрын
Mama and the Pappa’s great group. I loved California Dreaming, Monday Monday. Mama Cass had such a great voice. Died too young. Thank you Fil😊 I agree Michele voice was lost.
@lynndow3185
@lynndow3185 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a magnificent composition that I must know by heart enough for my brain to fill in what the mic isn't picking up. (Thanks for singing those lines...you daredevil!)
@tullfan7872
@tullfan7872 4 жыл бұрын
California Dreaming is such a great song. Mama Cass could really belt it out.
@bryanmyers1435
@bryanmyers1435 4 жыл бұрын
Denny Doherty could belt it out.
@craftycrafter1960
@craftycrafter1960 4 жыл бұрын
She could have sang the phone book and it would have been fantastic
@lynettekomidar
@lynettekomidar 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was the males that belted it out
@GirlWithAnOpinion
@GirlWithAnOpinion 4 жыл бұрын
Hugely disappointing recording. 😫 Glad most of us know this song and how it really sounds.
@loripolnac1279
@loripolnac1279 4 жыл бұрын
Great song. No auto tune - just real, with issues at times, but far prefer this to the auto tune of today. So much talent. And Fil, you are just a walking musical encyclopedia set! I appreciate you sharing all of this knowledge with us. Very fascinating!
@paulchristian7693
@paulchristian7693 4 жыл бұрын
We could sing along to theses songs. It was fun. 🎤🎼🎸🥁🗣🗣
@johnoneal1234
@johnoneal1234 10 ай бұрын
​@@paulchristian7693it was full of life. Everything seems dead today.
@Kwolfx
@Kwolfx 4 жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago I watched the Monterey Pop DVD and I knew something was a bit off or missing in the harmonies, but I didn't realize it could be a defective mic. What we did hear was pretty damn good though.
@AkX1353
@AkX1353 4 жыл бұрын
Michelle stated once they were a studio band. Rarely did live.
@shellylyndsley394
@shellylyndsley394 4 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏. Wonderful harmony in this group, Cass was a phenomenal singer. Beautiful, beautiful voice. It's unfortunate this band was wrought with such tragedy. Thanks for your analysis Fil!
@KarmaKutie1
@KarmaKutie1 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Fil! Do you remember long ago doing a great analysis of Janis Joplin performing - maybe it was "Ball and Chain" (?) Do you remember that lady in the audience that was blown away, mouthing "Wowww"? Yes, that was Mama Cass! (Cass Elliot R.I. P.) Incredible analysis here Fil, thank you
@allisonyoung4007
@allisonyoung4007 4 жыл бұрын
The music, of course is divine~But that late 60s mod, uber hip , far out style is EVERYTHING! ✌😎🌼
@TheGamingJewYT
@TheGamingJewYT 7 ай бұрын
Its worth noting Michelle Phillips mic malfunctioned during this and she really had to project her vocals to be heard on the other mics, people talk about Cass' pipes but Michelle could for sure hold her own. Great analysis Fil as always!
@mustangsally4362
@mustangsally4362 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fil , as a subscriber to your channel, which I love by the way, I just wanted to say as far as I am aware you are one of the very few You Tubers who takes the time out to like every single comment that this community makes and I just wanted to say THANK YOU and may your channel become even more successful, you deserve it 👏👏👏
@carlswenson5538
@carlswenson5538 4 жыл бұрын
Mama Cass was a fabulous singer who could cover just about any style and was in a league of her own. Denny was no slouch in his own right. Creek Alley tells the story of the early band.
@pathacker4963
@pathacker4963 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Swenson damn straight Denny was no slouch!
@jv-ep2tc
@jv-ep2tc 4 жыл бұрын
Cass's daughter has sung with the Wilson sisters and has a voice similar to her mother. IN this clip, when Owen jumps in for a solo bit she sounds so much like her mother that the crowd erupts......kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3uuapJurb2Wj5Y
@danmyers9372
@danmyers9372 4 жыл бұрын
J V - watched the video. Yeah, Cass’s daughter definitely has a similar sound to her mom. Not too impressed with the Wilson Phillips overall performance. The girls needed to spend more time in a small room learning how to blend their voices and less time shaking their hair and butts.
@barbarac8422
@barbarac8422 4 жыл бұрын
@@danmyers9372 Have to agree with you there.
@chrisbennett6236
@chrisbennett6236 4 жыл бұрын
His ability to understand what all four voices can do along with the melody makes him a top tier writer and so impressive.
@catharinethomas5797
@catharinethomas5797 4 жыл бұрын
Dream a little dream of me.
@lisaeischens2352
@lisaeischens2352 4 жыл бұрын
Love that song!
@pamr4040
@pamr4040 4 жыл бұрын
I still have that 45rpm record stashed away in my things somewhere...always loved that song, and her version of it. 🧡
@sjderemerwi
@sjderemerwi 3 жыл бұрын
Showcased Cass’s voice no doubt.
@bluzmansb5683
@bluzmansb5683 4 жыл бұрын
This performance actually demonstrates what The Mamas & Papas would sound like as a trio. As documented, the microphones were damaged by the Who's performance preceding The Mamas & the Papas. Unbelievably, sound techs did not catch and correct the error. Michelle's mic was not working. At many points you can actually see expressions on her face communicating her confusion to Cass . This performance accurately demonstrates how much Michelle actually brought to their sound with her soprano voice and harmonies.
@saintejeannedarc9460
@saintejeannedarc9460 2 жыл бұрын
So many think she was only there as eye candy. They actually did replace her w/ some actual eye candy, and it still went downhill and they brought her back. I don't even like anything much about Michelle Phillips, but she was still integral to the band. Even if she wasn't as integral, or near as strong a singer as Cass or Denny.
@SuperDiddzz
@SuperDiddzz 2 жыл бұрын
Any one who knows this band already knows what Michell brought to the table. Your comment is pointless. How old are you?
@hashtag415
@hashtag415 4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Cass Elliot played the boss witch in the 1970 movie "Pufnstuf" based on the Saturday morning kid's tv show H.R. Pufnstuf.
@loribrooks7273
@loribrooks7273 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, I remember HR. Puff n Stuff! 😆
@hashtag415
@hashtag415 4 жыл бұрын
@@loribrooks7273 Jimmy (Jack Wild) and his magic talking golden flute Freddy.👍
@loribrooks7273
@loribrooks7273 4 жыл бұрын
@@hashtag415 yes! I remember! Lol
@loribrooks7273
@loribrooks7273 4 жыл бұрын
@@hashtag415 the talking tree's freaked me out lol
@johngerson7335
@johngerson7335 4 жыл бұрын
Close. Cass played Witch Hazel. Boss witch was played by Martha Raye.
@Johnoftheshire
@Johnoftheshire 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Phil’s breakdown of this song; I just wish he’d picked a video of California Dreamin’ in which all four voices can be heard... so important to this group.
@JannaBrewer
@JannaBrewer 4 жыл бұрын
I love Mamas and Papas! Thanks Fil!!
@pamr4040
@pamr4040 4 жыл бұрын
If only Michelle had moved over and shared Cass' mic if/when she realized hers wasn't working...ah well, your analysis was impeccable, as always, Fil. Thanks so much for covering this song! 🧡
@b42baritone
@b42baritone 4 жыл бұрын
Denny is one of the best vocalist during this era.
@bryanmyers1435
@bryanmyers1435 4 жыл бұрын
Denny was underrated.
@bufb
@bufb 4 жыл бұрын
He sure was
@MrBrynmair
@MrBrynmair 7 ай бұрын
One of my absolute favourites of theirs is “ Do you wanna dance” which is just a stunning arrangement with gorgeous orchestration, the very best vocal harmonies , and just an all round best version of this song. So clever to slow it right down and use the harmonies to drive the song.
@olivepoola9153
@olivepoola9153 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite groups. Such a shame they couldn't keep it together.
@lightningbug276
@lightningbug276 4 жыл бұрын
The only hippies my parents liked 😊❤️ ☮️ You’re spot on about the sound. Somebody messed up.
@AkX1353
@AkX1353 4 жыл бұрын
That was my dad, also. The ONLY positive response ever to R&R was M&P on Ed Sullivan.
@mitchellsilverman5595
@mitchellsilverman5595 4 жыл бұрын
One of the few times I have heard Fil critical of a performance. He is spot on and this adds to his already over the top credibility. Bravo
@gilbertspader7974
@gilbertspader7974 4 жыл бұрын
You forget how good the singing was . Who stilled the voices ? Will we run out of singers when we run out of souls ???
@patriciasnyder6915
@patriciasnyder6915 4 жыл бұрын
OMG. What an amazing group. Their harmonies were incredible. Thanks for the diversity of music you analyze. Especially, for those of us who grew up with the music of the 60’s and 70’s.
@tjvanpopta
@tjvanpopta 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of great music that evolved during the 60,s was unbelievable. The whole decade of the 60,s was exeptional for the sheer variety and innovation. It left an amazing musical legacy, glad i grew up then.
@mikefrancais
@mikefrancais 6 ай бұрын
The summer of love. I was 17 years old magical times. Always love your reviews, Fil
@christined2495
@christined2495 4 жыл бұрын
I was 16 when this was playing on the radio, I loved it then, I still love it today❤️
@bluewaters3100
@bluewaters3100 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@estelleadamski308
@estelleadamski308 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in CA, so I liked this song, of course, but, I never got into smoking, drinking, drugs, as many teen-agers in the 60's did! I am proud of that fact!
@HowardARoark
@HowardARoark 4 жыл бұрын
You are so right Michelle Philips soprano is such a big part of this song and it didn't come through as well in this performance - but this song is so great and the soprano part so great also. Monday Monday also really great song by this band.
@kirstyjones898
@kirstyjones898 4 жыл бұрын
Such a timeless classic with great harmonies. It is always amazing to hear such great performances pre auto-tune. I also love the harmonies on Abba songs and The Corrs.
@TulsaGirlForever
@TulsaGirlForever 4 жыл бұрын
Love this one Fil....these videos from the Monterey Pop Festival are so great to have, as unpolished as they were at that time for recording these big music concerts. By the time Woodstock came around, it got done really well. For a group that lasted such a SHORT time, they made a HUGE impact on the music scene. So glad to see people getting exposed to their beautiful time in rock n roll.
@Bryt25
@Bryt25 Жыл бұрын
Unforgettable!
@darlatidwell6255
@darlatidwell6255 4 жыл бұрын
My kids and I love the Mamma's and the Pappas. That was some awesome vocals and harmonizing regardless of the mic mix up. My uncle and aunt was at that concert in Monterrey. They were captured on camera and they had flowers in their hair ✌️!! ♥️ Them 60's. Really nice analysis here too,.. as always Fil !! 👍🤟
@user-ky6vw5up9m
@user-ky6vw5up9m 4 жыл бұрын
The original words were “...began to pray..”. When practicing for the recording, Cass was heard to mistakenly sing “ ...pretend to pray..”. They adopted the change as it gave a slightly enigmatic edge to the words.
@annika_panicka
@annika_panicka 2 жыл бұрын
On a non-musical note, this is one of the sexiest (yes, John-including Cass) and most visibly stoned groups I've seen on this channel during my binge today. Lol. And despite their inebriation and technical difficulties, they still sound great.
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 11 ай бұрын
Denny Doherty was our token Canadian from Halifax, Nova Scotia. He passed in 2007.
@macgrad1
@macgrad1 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t know he was Canadian. 🇨🇦 We lived in Nova Scotia in the early 1970s; it was a beautiful province with lovely people. We hated it when my husband got transferred to British Columbia.
@Terminus1962
@Terminus1962 4 жыл бұрын
Legends. Technical difficulties were not going to detract from the level of talent we see on this performance. At this time people immediately realized how amazing Cass Elliot was and people wanted to see her live at any cost. Yes Denny was a very, very special artist.
@tedszweb5268
@tedszweb5268 3 жыл бұрын
Great Points ! How Ironic that they would have technical difficulties when the Festival was put together by John Phillips !
@thatsrich944
@thatsrich944 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I noticed was the missing harmony, which is a big surprise for one of the best harmonic groups in history. Even still, a great performance. Now I've got go find another live performance to get my fix. Cheers!
@lauraallen55
@lauraallen55 10 ай бұрын
You should listen to Creeque Alley sometime. Lyrically brilliant and mentions Barry Maguire, John Sebastian, the band members themselves, and others they met along the way to 'making it'; essentially tells their story. Cass and Denny were in a folk band together, I believe, before the Mamas and the Papas. Their voices were so rock solid, just fabulous vocals on them. A lot of people thought Michelle was just eye candy/John's girlfriend but she could sing well too. Interesting info. Love you really digging into the details! :)
@Pb-ij4ip
@Pb-ij4ip 4 жыл бұрын
A fabulous group and impeccable harmonies! The beauty of this song’s melody really conceals how depressing it can be. Another group whose harmonies I absolutely love is “The Association”. I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing them “earn their wings”! (See what I did there? You’re “Wings of Pegasus” and they need to earn their wings!?.... Bah, you’re a clever chap. You probably saw that right off. Just trying to convince myself that I’m clever as well.) As usual, the background you provide is awesome!
@ubettawrkb1tch132
@ubettawrkb1tch132 4 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!!! I love their performance on The Smothers Brothers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYqtmZuBiL2CeNE
@Pb-ij4ip
@Pb-ij4ip 4 жыл бұрын
ubetta wrkb1tch 😊 I’ve watched that one a few times!
@Bryt25
@Bryt25 Жыл бұрын
I also loved The Association's 'Along Comes Mary' including the quite busy lyric. That certainly was an era for those kind of songs and wonderful vocal arrangements.
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 4 жыл бұрын
Denny and Mama Cass❤️ Spatial harmony and had voices of the generation
@RosaKay55
@RosaKay55 Жыл бұрын
An iconic song from the 60’s. Great harmonies, and I especially liked Cass. Enjoyed your analysis with some tidbits about the drama that went on behind the scenes. Thanks, Fil, for this trip down memory lane!
@YvonneWilson312
@YvonneWilson312 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Fil! As always!
@suzannerobbins6293
@suzannerobbins6293 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fil! I spent so much time listening to the Mama’s and Papa’s when my hubby was in Vietnam. Music got me through a very hard year, and these guys helped me smile more. Thanks for the memories, and your take on how they did musically...you amaze me with your talent! Have a great weekend...
@WINKlerEnterprises
@WINKlerEnterprises 4 жыл бұрын
Love your insights! The Mamas and Papas themselves thought they were the worst performance of the festival. (see and hear the DVD boxset of the Monterey Pop Festival) John Phillips was so busy organizing and promoting the Festival (which was his idea), along with Michelle, that they didn't have time to rehearse. On top of that, Dennis was missing (due to the "soap opera" of the group), and did not show up until 1/2 hour before they were set to take the stage.
@curtvaughan2836
@curtvaughan2836 24 күн бұрын
Great commentary and insight on the recording process.
@cclarke9301
@cclarke9301 4 жыл бұрын
Was so fortunate to see them live in Phoenix. It was fantastic and Mama Cass really made the Mamas and the Papas unique. Thanks Fil for another interesting analysis.
@redcaddiedaddie
@redcaddiedaddie 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen it posited that John, while forming the group, wanted Michelle in the group not only because her high, beautiful, delicate voice, but that her soft vocal projection would cause Cass to 'throttle back' on her volume in order not to drown Michelle out...
@debravirden7130
@debravirden7130 4 жыл бұрын
Many fond memories of this song! My sister and I used to do a duet singing this. I enjoyed your analysis and I was sad to not be able to hear Michelle singing due to the microphone!
@darronmoore9177
@darronmoore9177 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it brother You can really sing. 👍💯💯💯
@alanc1491
@alanc1491 2 жыл бұрын
Fil, you have a gift for delving into an artist's background and picking out the relevant bits that produce several 'Aha!' moments for us.
@robertblackman936
@robertblackman936 6 ай бұрын
I really love your analysis; It help me understand the finer things of music and singing. Keep it up!!!
@micheleparker8123
@micheleparker8123 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you straight away brought up the fact that Michelle Phillips' mic apparently wasn't on; I thought I was crazy but it just turns out I have good ears!😎 I love the 4-part harmonies; now please do Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young- their harmonies are AWESOME. Thank you, Fil!😍
@2000konnie
@2000konnie 4 жыл бұрын
Yay. Thank you for this, Fil. I had always heard how "bad" that live performance was, but in hearing it, I agree that it's because Michelle's part can't be heard. -- I love the song, "Creeque Alley", about the history of the band. Who else has ever done that? They made great music with John's songwriting and the great harmonies. Another one of those bands who were magical.
@donna7873
@donna7873 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fil . You ROCK !! Love your channel 🌼
@wg7644
@wg7644 2 жыл бұрын
Just fun to watch - really learn a lot thanks
@glenfinston704
@glenfinston704 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the fine analysis of this gem Fil! All the background info you provide is fantastic!
@lynettekomidar
@lynettekomidar 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing song. Amazing harmony. Not too mention the unforgettable break
@msfoto3541
@msfoto3541 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thanks for this. I really appreciate the back story on the band. Well done.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 Жыл бұрын
I was excited to watch this, then quickly realized I'd seen this performance before. Every time I've seen The Mamas and the Papas, it's usually from a TV show and they're lip syncing. I was psyched to hear them live, because the only time I had seen them live was this same performance with Michelle's vocals inaudible. Still, great analysis as always, and great performance.
@ty_stick1410
@ty_stick1410 4 жыл бұрын
Takes me back to being 18, slightly buzzed and listening to some sort of HS choral group do this song. This really is a great song and all four voices blend perfectly (when all the mics are working). Another fabulous job, Fil.
@cherylrozema97
@cherylrozema97 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your commentary... This is one of my favorite bands, who had such a distinctive sound, so instantly recognizable and appreciated more thanv50 years later. Wonderful!
@gailresources8120
@gailresources8120 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you love and feature music from previous decades. I do feel lucky I was young during the times of the most significant musical decades ever. And to live in So Calif. I just wish the uniqueness and quality of creativity had continued after the 70’s. There is a reason younger people still listen to it today. Cass was amazing! Thank you!
@michaelhayward7572
@michaelhayward7572 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, ta velly much. One of THE GREAT, nay greatest songs of the last 60 years. Timeless, iconic classic.
@glenadymond7202
@glenadymond7202 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video & great info Fil.
@justafreethinker
@justafreethinker 4 жыл бұрын
Been away a while, but great to see an analysis of the Mama's and the Papa's... Mamma Cass is such an underrated female vocalist in my opinion. Love this group. Again, if only music could still sound this good today. Great review Professor Fil!
@stephengaren2219
@stephengaren2219 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I like about these videos, aside from them bringing back a lot of my musical influences, is that it is never one specific genre of music. Much respect for that Fil. Even though The Mamas And The Papas were short-lived, they left a lifetime's worth of music to be enjoyed with just a small handful of recordings. That's a testament of a great band. Thanks Fil.
@stonerabbit344
@stonerabbit344 4 жыл бұрын
Another great analysis, Fil. I’ve always been attracted to groups whose harmonies were an essential part of the group’s “flavor” (if you will): Peter, Paul and Mary; The Kingston Trio; The Association; Crosby, Stills, Nash and (sometimes) Young; The Mamas and The Papas. I’ve watched this track on the Monterrey Pop Festival DVD and wondered why the top end of this (Michelle’s voice) seemed muted and sometimes entirely absence. Thanks much for answering that question after so many years! You also delved into the background of the group’s formation. The song “Creeque Alley” is their clever take on that history. Here’s a link to the story behind the early history of The Mamas and The Papas: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmOypGdunZuYaJY
@BOOMNERD51
@BOOMNERD51 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your few bars of Denny's solo! I will have to find my old vinyl copy to hear Michelle and missing flute.
@thomasguider7516
@thomasguider7516 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to Mama Cass. What can be said? She was in a league of her. RIP
@joemcdonald7798
@joemcdonald7798 3 жыл бұрын
Love your takes on vocal groups like this one and Bee Gees...very thoughtful and professional
@wonsworld61
@wonsworld61 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fil.. again you provide a glimpse into what it takes to write a song. The Mamas and the Papas are one of the bands I have distinct childhood memories of on Jukeboxes in the 60's as well as always being on the radio. For a while they were everywhere. Oh, and as well as writing , arranging, producing and singing etc.. John Phillips was one of the principal organisers of he Monterey Pop festival itself. Without him, most of what happened here, would not have happened :)
@DonnaleaSpencer
@DonnaleaSpencer Жыл бұрын
I'm going through your back catalog again. Great analysis. Toward the end, as you're talking about their other songs. "I saw her", "I saw her again....." actually one of my favorite parts of that song.
@fredbond2429
@fredbond2429 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Fil, another great rundown!No one could stand toe to toe with them back then.John was musical genius,too bad it all ended up so tragic for them,I love their music to this day,thanks,.....ROCK.
@thomaskempton7178
@thomaskempton7178 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis of the MAMAS AND PAPPAS, Fil. That was pretty good singing of CALIFORNIA DREAMING. Mama Cass Elliot was great on her own. Thank you.
@spoonfudge1284
@spoonfudge1284 4 жыл бұрын
Cass Elliot had the best voice and the widest vocal range of the whole group. Her life ended way to early.
@plrndl
@plrndl 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Cass had a great voice, but so do a great many professional singers. What made this band great, is that the combination of their voices, plus the choice of material worked so well together.
@TheGamingJewYT
@TheGamingJewYT 7 ай бұрын
And lets not forget Denny Doherty had ome of the Great voices of the 60s and is rarely mentioned!
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