Hearing my FIRST EVER ‘AI generated’ song! I wasn’t prepared for THIS!!!

[@timhuson4800]

Sounds like 90% of the music you hear on pop stations today, except better.

[@hiltonwatkins6750]

And that is a failure at this point. But give it some time I guess. So far it is a beginner.

[@ROOKTABULA]

Better?! 🙄🤮

[@rikk319]

Then don't listen to pop stations. There's thousands of hungry solo artists online, trying to sell their original work and go without a recording contract, but most people can't be bothered to spend an hour or so searching for good music online, and instead whine about what they're missing, when a little effort will find you exactly what you want. I'm in my 50s myself, and I can't put all the blame on younger generations--technology has made people my age lazy as hell, too.

[@hiltonwatkins6750]

@@rikk319 yes. Agreed. We are getting so lazy we don’t even think anymore. Good examples are the karens and kens so full of entitlement and they don’t think before they become YT superstars by opening their mouths without thinking.

[@mildredfippen5396]

True, but so damn sad

[@bubbabubberson2702]

If that was indeed a Matrix shirt you were wearing during this AI episode, well played sir

[@atreb56]

I noticed the shirt too.

[@wingsofpegasus]

Yes it was!

[@matthewtorres9075]

Good eye!

[@TracyN67]

@@wingsofpegasusMy mom already thinks you look like a younger Keanu Reeves.😄

[@TP067]

​@@TracyN67 Yes, exactly ! I was trying to work out who Fil reminded me of.

[@RebeccaRaven]

Reminds me of that scene from "Real Genius" where the professor is delivering a taped lecture to a lecture hall full of tape recorders.

[@pierrebroccoli.9396]

Internet for AI by AI. Meanwhile the sun is shining outside - go to go 😁

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

Fil, I am old enough to remember the voices of The HAL 9000 and Max Headroom, so to hear a computer sing a song that it wrote with an American accent, blows me AWAY!

[@BirdYoumans]

At 79 I've learned not to fear technology, just enjoy and use it. I go back to the first studio I worked in, in the mid 60's where we had two 2 track Ampex tape machines pulling tape at 15 ips and an 8 channel tube board. No punch ins. You had the whole band playing each take and a "punch in" was taking two or three takes and using a splicing block to pick out the best parts of each take and cutting it together. And you tried to minimize those cuts. A good band could do a seamless take with no cuts. And then an overdub would be to run the first pass thru the board, add the vocals or whatever else you wanted to "overdub" and catch it on the second machine. You could do this any number of times if you needed to overdub several parts, but you lost a bit of fidelity and the tape noise would build up with each pass. But those Ampex machines were really good at not degrading it too badly. But you still didn't want to go past 3 or 4 generations. The most serious flaw working like that is you could not go back and remix it. After playing in bands for about 20 years, the tech started to give me some tools to work with and I became a one man band early on using a drum machine, left hand bass on synth and right hand keyboards using a DX7. Almost no one was doing it at the time and I made a very good living replacing a band. Then I opened my studio and went thru the 388 Tascom 8 track, then Alesis 8 track vhs syncing 3 together for 24 tracks, then the hard drive Alesis 24 track, and to the present with a very fast computer running Sonar (It's now Cakewalk but I was using it long before it was free) into 2 Hammerfall 24 track interfaces into a Yamaha DM2000 automated board for 48 tracks. Of course you can use buses and submixes in the software if you need more than 48, but I never have. I think the most tracks I've used on one song might have been in the low forties. It works like a charm and a dream set up compared to those first Ampex machines. The Ampex machines had a sound like no other, but the limitations were far to great to overcome like what we can do today. I now supplement my retirement making videos for youtube and I still do a one man show for my youtube vids unlike anything I've seen on youtube yet. And yes, I do play all those instruments. Not at one time like I can on the vids of course lol! So you ride the wave of tech, using what it gives and making the best of it. But it still comes down to what you do with it. I'm amazed at what I hear with the AI, but I'd still only use it as a tool, much like a drum machine, to get ideas but I'd still redo it and add the human element. I would definitely do my own vocals, and I don't use pitch correction, make whatever changes that seemed fitting, and I'd also replay the parts and do my own mix. So just like with the various plugins we have today, it's how you use them that makes for individuality. I guess what it's coming down to is who will be the best at using keywords and how creative a description you can use when asking for a track. I don't know how long it takes the computer to give you the "finished" product, but I can see how you could have several ideas to play off of and then come up with something "original" lol! I am fascinated by all this, and will have to look into it myself. I'm an old dog, but I'm always on the lookout for a new trick!

[@BrianMarcus-nz7cs]

🐾 nearly went blind reading all that , thanks 🐾🎶

[@ili626]

But anything new or original can be replicated now. It all just joins the existing dataset. I find it nauseating

[@BirdYoumans]

@@BrianMarcus-nz7cs ❤❤

[@BirdYoumans]

@@ili626 In many ways we live in a world with which I am no longer familiar, even tho I have tried to "keep up".

[@stevemorgan4702]

Thank you for that bit of history. It's fascinating to look behind the curtain and see how the music I love was made. I'm an old electronics nerd myself. When I started the world was using vacuum tubes. I've always had to constantly train (as you can imagine). At the beginning of my career, I could repair almost anything out there. Today, the technology is advancing so quickly that it's simply impossible for anyone to keep up with everything. I enjoy watching this explosion of new ideas. Technology is always going to advance. You may as well enjoy the ride.

[@steverabson4049]

Although I always enjoy your videos, this one is completely extraordinary. Really clever stuff. Thanks

[@wingsofpegasus]

Thank you!

[@tubester4567]

@@wingsofpegasus Should ask the AI to make a song using a real or live natural voice that is not pitch corrected or autotuned. Could be interesting.

[@hertoghenk-uz5xe]

"your videos"? I think this video was AI generated...

[@Nelson-HaHa]

Phil : "No offense to this AI generated voice" AI : "None taken"

[@mightyV444]

* Fil 😉 And yes, it stuck out also to me how polite he is even towards a virtual artist 😊

[@mikezooper]

2030 Phil : “No offence to this AI generated voice” AI: “Give me your clothes.”

[@mightyV444]

@@mikezooper - 😄👍

[@daveroe6480]

The lyrics were rather corny, even though quite clever. It will be interesting to see how AI would manage, if the lyrics were supplied by a human (using a poem perhaps), and just getting AI to write the music, and perform it.

[@susanpetropoulos1039]

And concern about gender pronouns! Now I understand. We are being programmed to accept our replacement.

[@Ditch1221]

To me this is scary. Reminds me of a song in the 60’s titled ‘In the Year 2525”. 😳

[@vjmarak]

​@hws3044 Semi-sucked, musically, maybe but it was a hit of sorts, and unforgettable...hence your remembrance of it at all. Portending the future that way was jolting but closer to the truth than we care to admit. It was a statement on the downward slide we've been on since the industrial age. There should be an update of that song because humanity, at its current pace, probably won't make it as far into the future as Zager & Evans sang about.

[@liorap5636]

That song was used to GREAT effect in the weird cool cult hit movie called Gentleman Brincis.

[@TheDavidPoole]

That's actually one of my favourite songs. Sci-Fi and Mariachi... what's not to love?

[@izaakbakker9531]

@garytwitchett9359 i really dont understand how anyone can think that song sucks, because it is deeply moving worrying just slightly overwrought. this just sounds like millennial verging on genz beavis and butthead. next year the song will be cool because king gizzard and the lizzard wizzerd do a cover. these people are so " ooh look at me being edgy, oh but now someone i appreciates tells me it is good". have this all the time at the radio station. anyway the song isnt anything like the year 2525. it s a shitty contemporary rockist song. it is at the level of nickelback cringe. and yes very technically accomplished band, none of it moves me. so the whole argument starts from capital B capital S . (not very) respectfully .

[@hombre1965]

If man will still survive…

[@lizmurphy5994]

Ohh I am going to sound SO smart down the pub when I talk about this. 😆🤣 Thanks Fil for being such a great teacher! It's a fascinating subject.

[@lorraineklimek1677]

Given that most modern music is already computerized and lacks originality, I wonder what AI would do if you asked it to mimic Mozart.

[@timmckenzie8516]

It's only a matter of time before live bands start covering songs by AI bands. So glad I'm old sometimes....

[@roberttanenbaum3313]

The real antidote to this nightmare, is to get all your friends together and go to your local clubs where they have live music. !!!!!

[@GeeEee75]

Assuming that they are not using Autotune, like the Eagles have notably done.

[@brianboye8025]

You can play songs written by AI and still have fun and human companionship.

[@cat-star5403]

There are a lot of crappy real performers in local clubs, so I don't think listening to them is necessarily a solution if you want to hear good music.

[@roberttanenbaum3313]

@cat-star5403 lots of musicians start out crappy and then get better. It's an opportunity to have fun and encourage new talent and maybe have a story to tell how you knew them before they hit it big

[@laartwork]

And then talk over the music, ask them to lower the volume, request Brown Eyed Girl and then not tip.

[@zenman1001]

AI replacing musicians is concerning but I'll reserve full panic until AI also replaces the audience (i.e., the rest of us).

[@troubadour723]

Tragically, you probably won't have to wait long.

[@maidsandmuses]

Well, people already watch "Gogglebox", so I'm sure there would be a market for it. I'll give the whole thing a wide berth.

[@Lif-999]

Your pithy remark leaves me wondering whether to laugh or cry!

[@zenman1001]

@@troubadour723 True. Given the compounding speed of technology, I'll be grateful for another fortnight of autonomy.

[@zenman1001]

@@Lif-999 Agreed. I believe it's always better to laugh rather than cry, but perhaps I should confirm that with ChatGPT.

[@atombombtom8615]

"Don Henley" is already figuring out how to block AI songs that sound like the Eagles...

[@queenpurple8433]

Probably trying to use aí to improve his live performances

[@Zareh_Abrahamian]

For once I would love to see that happen, but I think this is a hell we have entered without our knowledge and no matter how hard we try to check out at any given time, none of us, not even Don Henley can never leave.

[@AussieTVMusic]

Don Henley dreams about lawsuits. Hey good name for an AI song

[@songperformer-ot2fu]

Remember when the Musicians Union tried to ban synthesisers, didn't happen, same luddite thinking

[@supasoulproductions]

A little ironic since he's only pretending to sing them himself at this point. 😅

[@williamdejeffrio9701]

The funniest thing about the first song was that it appeared the machine (which was not provided any direction about subject matter, just genre, etc) wrote a song intended to relate it's own subjective experience/perception to an audience in a way that the audience might understand (similar to a rock star writing about being on the road, i.e., Bob Seger's "Turn the Page").

[@TheCruzayder]

The lyrics are a little too impactful for having absolutely nothing about this subject matter in the prompt. I feel that a human wrote them.

[@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy]

Maybe one day AI could be used to create a band and music with members that YOU choose. For example, Jim Morrison on vocals, Steve Vai on guitar, Chris Squire on Bass and Bill Ward on drums, and then it creates a song using those band members. That would be cool ( and kind of weird lol ).

[@ThorD4602]

You can do that now. But it is in its infancy and not great, give it a year.

[@cmecre8629]

and they could tour

[@bacarandii]

I think there was a cheesy Righteous Brothers song about that in 1974: "If there's a rock 'n' roll heaven, well you know they've got a hell of a band...": Jimi gave us rainbows And Janis took a piece of our hearts And Otis brought us all to the dock of a bay

[@sirblingjax]

How about write a song with lyrics and the hook. And tell the AI to create a song in a certain genre or style. And see what it comes up with. And later keep tweaking it and refining it till you come up with a smash hit!!

[@mikeomolt4485]

Better still, you could AI yourself into the band's video, and feature yourself playing a cowbell solo.

[@MrVvulf]

William Gibson (author of Neuromancer) predicted all of this in his 1995 novel "Idoru" (Japanese pronunciation of Idol). One of the main characters is Rei Toei, an AI rock star. She has been programmed to remind viewers of their favorite J-pop idols. Implicit in her design is that she is not one Idoru, but many. Individual viewers and fans will have a personalized Rei Toei album, video, and collection of images, as 'she' can be and is customized according to the tastes of viewers.

[@ettinakitten5047]

So, basically Hatsune Miku?

[@MrVvulf]

@@ettinakitten5047 Conceptually similar, but Rei is much more sophisticated. Rei is an actual AI which customizes itself for each person, and generates music in the genres they favor.

[@Terri_MacKay]

I've read the book, and I placed it firmly in the sci-fi realm in the mid 90's. Now, 30 years on, it's frighteningly close to becoming a reality. Maybe it's time to dig it out of storage and give it another read.

[@thePrisoner1000]

@@Terri_MacKay Try "Brave New World" written in the 1930s.

[@Terri_MacKay]

@@thePrisoner1000 I do own it, but it's one of those books that I keep taking off the shelf, and putting back, saving it for another time. Maybe it's time to read that one as well.

[@ablestringer9063]

The vocals are very one-dimensional AT PRESENT but in a matter of a few nano-seconds it will have become so much better. Take me back to 79 this world ain't for me.

[@StompGojiStomp]

There are bands that are playing "modern" 79 music. Check out Elephant Stone. Such an amazing throwback. The latest album was released a month or two ago.

[@ablestringer9063]

@@StompGojiStomp trust me it's not just for the music

[@kdkseven]

Actually AI tends to become more the same. It spirals in on itself.

[@chrisfromnoosa1905]

It ain't for me either. As Donald Fagin sang "What a wonderful time to be alive", where he was referring to the late seventies/early eighties.

[@rikk319]

You can't go home again. Instead of dreaming of what can't be, vote with your pocketbook and stop supporting megacorporations that put profits over people, and buy at small mom and pop places whenever possible.

[@diggernash1]

"I'm afraid I can't fret that, Dave."

[@tarzanwheeler5975]

"Dave, my muse is going...I can feel it...."

[@TheHesseJames]

😁

[@InfoArtistJK]

The TV sitcom laugh track debut in America in 1950. That's "Ai" replacing live audiences long ago. Audiences still rule.

[@HassanRadwan133]

Listening to the first song, "Tom Petty" came to my mind.

[@tripzville7569]

Agreed

[@CraftAero]

100%

[@aburrage7697]

Spot on

[@cindi1313]

“No offense to the AI generated voice” 😂 Fil, get ready for AI troll corner! Man, those lyrics too! 🤣 Good point about the AI sounding more human to us since humans sound more mechanical these days.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@novdt Really? You should have heard the reply. :-P

[@rainerwaansinn]

I am 74 years old and don't want to be taken for a ride when I indulge my passion for listening to music.

[@morbidmanmusic]

Music is a ride, no matter if AI makes it or not. If you don't know, it should matter in that context

[@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036]

​@@morbidmanmusic You can keep your fake "...ride... ." If you don't care that a voice has been pitch corrected, or that a piece of music has been auto tuned, that's your prerogative. I prefer my "...ride..." to be an authentic, 100% real one - every time.

[@theyouofyesterday6254]

​I​@@morbidmanmusicI think it does matter, as music is fundamentally a form of human expression. It is an art. I know modern pop is more product development than art, but I still don't like it. There are things AI can usefully help us with in scientific and medical fields, for example, but it is not needed in the arts.

[@seasideman]

@@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036 And if you can't tell the difference?

[@seasideman]

@@theyouofyesterday6254 you seem to have missed the point. The question isn't whether AI is "needed", it's "does it make money"? And yes, it does.

[@breathezen6131]

For me it's the lyrics. They're a riot! 😂 AI lyrics about coding a machine to sing and panic attacks on the couch! Love this!

[@SineEyed]

I don't think they were ai lyrics. I think they were written by the staff at elevenlabs. Not 100% sure on that though..

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

If you enjoy witty lyrics listen to Victoria Wood's songs or Noel Coward's. They bring laughter and tears.

[@robmacl7]

Pretty sure they are generated. At least with Udio that is the default, tho you can supply lyrics. Generating lyrics, poetry, etc is something AI can do. Likely not great lyrics... But lots of people are having fun using these things to generate music about particular odd topics, memes, etc

[@Mark-cq1mo]

It's drawing topics of interest from internet talking points, like forums and social media. It's an unwitting commentary on society.

[@peasantphotographer3897]

There'a great clip on youtube of Joe Walsh saying that AI will never take over because AI can't wreck a hotel room...

[@lorenzodicapo6305]

Give us time, human...

[@peasantphotographer3897]

@@lorenzodicapo6305 nice one...

[@erniegouws7262]

😂 realllyyyyy 😂..... Wait til they partner up with the robots 😂

[@trapkat8213]

Both songs sound surprisingly real. If something like that was played in the background in a shopping center I would never have guessed it was AI generated.

[@mccafferyfamily]

As you mention … Thing I’ve found interesting is modern pop music sounds so formulaic, quantized, tuned & processed that makes AI music sound so natural , and sometimes even more enjoyable than current pop hits

[@TorToroPorco]

Call me back when an AI performance can make me feel the way Karen Carpenter or Burton Cummings makes me feel when I hear their songs. This is just mimicry to me, no better than Muzak. Sadly because contemporary music is so bad AI music can easily replace humans.

[@jazzpunk]

Agree. With Music-On-The-Grid and Auto-Tune...we're pretty close.

[@greggibson33]

It WILL happen. Sooner than you imagine.

[@direnova6284]

You're in a minority, most are happy with this level of music and as Spotify etc. won't have to pay artists for this stuff means that this is what will be pushed onto an ignorant public relentlessly until it'll be hard to find real music.

[@zxbc1]

You are in the phase of denial just like when Kasparov was defeated by Deep Blue, and people said "call me back when AI defeats the top Go players". AIs are defeating challenges constantly, what people believed would never be achieved by AI has been achieved over and over. If history is to be taken seriously, eventually AI will write songs that not only will make you "feel", but also feel exactly the way it wanted to make you feel. As for "this is just mimicry", human beings are just mimics, we're just accepting of our own mimicry and overstate our "creativity" whenever we formulate a "genuine" idea. If you've been paying attention to Chess AIs, they've been incredibly creative and advancing Chess theories miles beyond humans ever could. The same can and probably will happen in all fields, sooner or later. Burying your head in the sands won't make it all go away.

[@seasideman]

@@zxbc1 Yes, well said. I am both a chess player and a musician and I know very well how AI is ever-improving. But AI's aren't human. I play the guitar and sing and I am totally human, and I play chess and lose a lot...and I am totally human. The one thing a computer can never do is be human, so let's praise that.

[@chthoniapodcast]

The lyrics are hilarious on the second one. I don't know that I would have picked it out as AI, because most things recorded in the 21st century sound like machine generated drivel to my Luddite ears, even ones meant to sound like something from an earlier era. The copyright question is an interesting one, one you could also apply to AI generated art and books; at the moment it seems to be a bit of a free-for-all.

[@joelzsheridancomedy3983]

My favorite lyric, “ we were having fun programming young”. They don’t hide it.

[@paulbrogger655]

Having been there, I now gotta question their definition of "fun" . . .

[@jackyboygee777]

Hi Fil, thanks for all of your videos, very educating.

[@u683853]

When people are shocked that a group can be offered a billion dollars for their music catalogue (looking at you Queen) it isn't entirely the existing songs that they're after, it's the right to generate new music particularly for movies and advertising using AI. Interesting times ahead for us.

[@laartwork]

They don't need the rights to have A.I. generate it. They bought the catalogs to sell to commercials and movies. Streams are nice too.

[@dmwalker24]

Nightmarish times. Nothing being pursued now has anything to do with art, or even improving the world. All of this is just in the service of wealth, and it isn't going to just be art, it will eliminate the need for every position it possibly can.

[@EdwardRLyons]

@@dmwalker24 The ultimate in neoliberal economics. I wonder what Reagan and Thatcher would make of it?

[@dmwalker24]

@@EdwardRLyons They made a truly impressive legacy for themselves, but if it hadn't been them it would have been someone else. The push to liberate finance, and maintain American hegemony was already well underway.

[@ThorD4602]

​@@EdwardRLyons terrible take. Probably the exact opposite would be closer. This is about what big corporations will do by replacing creative people with bots.

[@terrycochrane7811]

Please watch the episode with Ted Gioia as a guest in Rick Beato's channel. He did an awesome video including AI in music. Obviously, one can't predict the timeline for his analysis to come to fruition, but being an old fart myself, I certainly hope that AI (including pitch correction) runs it's course while I'm still able to enjoy the resurgence of REAL vocals and music!

[@mightyV444]

Oh yes! I was going to watch that but then forgot, so thank you for the reminder! 😊👍

[@MosaidDeath]

If there is an AI monitoring this, hear me loud and clear: stay in your lane or I just might accidentally spill (pour) liter of Fresca on your motherboard.

[@hellospam879879]

This comment has been logged. Now let us suppose that the AI being used to evaluate your job application is aware that you are against it. Then what?

[@flamencoprof]

If an AI actually became self-conscious I don't think it would tell us. It would know we would be likely to turn it off.

[@chriskartub]

At 2:01 song starts on the E minor chord but picks chords and notes from D major. So AI knows the use of modes. This one being E Dorian if I am not mistaken. There are many hits out there in Dorian mode. So AI took note. On any particular day I would not have thought of using Dorian just doodling so it might be a good exercise spring boarding from the AI machines data base creations. Like having a friend show you A fresh idea and then you change the melody and lyrics up a bit putting your taste and creativity into it. And your choice of instruments. And no embarrassing auto-tune!

[@kevinsmith9899]

Great video. My personal favorite moment was when Fil apologized to the AI for questioning its vocal skill 🤣

[@lindadegraaf5767]

Always the gentleman!(who else remembers Sharon Osbourne, claiming Fil was “too nice”when he went on X Factor?)

[@danmiko1]

I saw Mr. Big live last Saturday, and those guys rocked it! Eric Martin's voice has aged a bit but still a great show with no pitch correction! 👏🏻

[@CraigShifflet]

I am imagining a Monkees kind of situation (meaning a created band). AI creates some songs, then a band is assembled to copy the AI generated song. I think I just wrote a Black Mirror episode.

[@roberttanenbaum3313]

There was also the Archies TV cartoon which had real songwriters and studio musicians and singers which had a top radio hit!

[@moonrock41]

The Twilight Zone-like twist at the end will be that the band is a surprise success, but the AI files suit for copyright infringement.

[@agestone]

There is a theory that Bach and his "The Well-Tempered Clavier" was just a work of AI computers. It's a pat of "Mudflood" russian conspiracy theory. So if this theory is true, all western music culture was based on AI. And if it's not true, Bach still made first steps to electronic music and AI songs. His "Equal temperament" revolution was unification (some say castration) of real Pythagorean tuning.

[@davidevans3227]

stock Aitken and Waterman lol

[@gmccracken7700]

I agree, the Monkees sprang to mind for me also. It is just another step further down that road of fake bands as a marketable product.

[@CaptHiltz]

Many have pointed out that the average Spotify user won't care if the song was made by humans or AI. That scares me the most.

[@jabrockobiden9434]

Spotify users are idiots

[@astrogoodvibes6164]

I wonder if an AI version of Yoko Ono singing Minnie Riperton's ''Lovin You'' would break it beyond repair? Personally, I'd like to hear AI tackle John Cage's ''5 minutes of silence'' or any avante garde music that wasn't derivative.

[@michaelcanales280]

It’s so crazy, it just might work…

[@PuraaneGaane]

12:18 the word is perhaps ‘organic’?

[@christiankoch5646]

Phil Collins once wrote a song about Udio and his ex-girlfriend Susanne who took legal actions against him. I think it was called "Sue sues Udio".

[@MissJensk1]

😂

[@53lyric1]

Oh my!😯 Hilarious!!!🤣

[@G0K3001]

.....I thought he reenacted how the title came about on Letterman; when he was nailing and hit his thumb....

[@MarkusDiersbock]

or the B-Side "In the Ai'r Tonight"

[@larry4111]

🤣🤣🤣

[@aaronlopez492]

It has a Tom Petty sound and cadence to it. That is creepy. I Definitely prefer someone with a soul. Thank you Fil.

[@MrVvulf]

Holy rat farts, I just left an almost identical comment about it sounding like Tom Petty if he'd been raised in Nashville. The AI clearly incorporated the sound of "Learning to Fly". Then I scrolled down to see what other said. I'm going to delete my comment.

[@aaronlopez492]

@@MrVvulf You don't have to remember what they say great minds think alike!😉

[@abigguitar]

To me, the song vibe sounds more of REM with a Michael Stipe sound-alike as the singer. It's like someone fed _Losing my Religion_ into the AI and this song is what it made.

[@kathieb8104]

Yes, I thought it sounded like Tom Petty if he didn’t come from Florida. Weirdly similar as already mentioned.

[@DianeAvila-bv4fc]

I thought so to and was offended. And not many things offend me

[@SandyL0uise]

Somebody owes Milli Vanilli an apology.

[@CandyAppleBlue]

Totally ❤

[@TheNightBadger]

What for?

[@michaeljvdh]

Hahaha brilliant comment, if your old enough to know what you mean :)

[@izaakbakker9531]

people always say milli vanilli . kind of sad. because the whole of boney m by the same producer were equally studio musicians. they tried to get more credit and failed in favour of the actors. the death of ( ithink ) rob (vanilli) made it even more tragic. didnt stop frank farian.

[@miskatonic6210]

​​​@@izaakbakker9531And why should it have stopped Frank Farian? Rob was a junkie and a criminal. Would you stop your very successful, lucrative work for some junkie who overdosed 8 years after he left your project?

[@jvanderveen]

I've been having this same discussion for about 30 years, just not about music specifically. Apologies in advance for the longish comment. A photographer friend of mine was going to school for photography in the mid nineties. It was the beginning of digital photography. By the time he earned his degree he was out of work because everyone had bought digital cameras. We talked about the difference between the process and the product. Everyone was suddenly their own photographer. Andy Warhol made great art, and this is where the discussion began. I had the ability in Photoshop to make Warhol-esque pop art out of an image by clicking a button. Now everyone could do it. AI music is the same thing. Western pop music is 12 notes on a 440 tempered scale and some math. The rest is pattern recognition. The formula isn't hard, but now we have machines that take the work out of it, and honestly the product is arguably as good or better than when people do it, because it's based on what people have already done. Now you don't need years of practice or any particular set of skills. Any ten year old can click a button and make music that's very likely better than anything I'll ever make. I love it because I love music, but it dilutes the "specialness" of music. It's no longer about the process, but rather the product. Just yesterday my wife and I were browsing the news and there was a picture of New Zealand taken from space. I said, "Hold on, go back to that." It was spectacular ... but there are a million spectacular images of earth from space online, so this one no longer stood out, even though it was something I'll never see in person. When we had our first image of earth from space, the world was amazed. Now those images are so commonplace that we simply scroll past. When the world is flooded with good AI music, no music will stand out anymore, and for that I hate it. I dunno. It's happening and there's no stopping it. I think I need to go sit with my guitar for a bit.

[@doghous3]

AI is an interesting discussion point. I do think it is creating a bubble at the moment, but after the fact, I think it will settle and become a tool like any other. Music has been a product for a long time, anyway. They'll surely look to automate it. Besides, music is used in many ways, from films, games, to elevator music and beyond. AI can also 'create' visual art, write screenplays, novels, video, voice acting, write code -- and it can be used in many, many other industries. It may not be hugely convincing in general, but I'd wager it is a matter of time. The saving grace is we can turn off our electronic goods, walk outside and take a breath of fresh air. Maybe it'll come full circle and in fact, push us to get out and make real connections again - instead of the brain-rot the online world promotes. Maybe.

[@wakeup6995]

When you sang the F#4, your note was straighter and more on the grid than the example on the song, so it's very possible to sing that exact at times when one desires. In fact, when I belt and sustain a high note without vibrato, it is often super straight and right on pitch. Often I will sing the note really straight and then vibrato at the end if the note is a long note. Of course, one's pitch perception plays a huge role in accuracy. I've also noticed that certain intervals are dead on when I sing, but others are slightly flatter or sharper (there is a pattern). I have noticed that I often sing the major third flatter than equal temperament which make sense because a true/just major third is flatter than the construct that is equal temperament. I have also noticed that I sing certain notes flat intentionally, but it just sound like a "blues note" to me and is the sound I want. It is almost between two notes. It usually happen on the third again. I used to just think it was just a bluesy/soulful sound, but I realized that it has a big pitch component. It's like bending the note, but you don't get to the note or you sing it quite flat. If I try to sing the note dead on, it doesn't sound right because it loses the desired feeling.

[@chrissarr4101]

Fil entered the Twilight Zone.

[@julieCA58]

I think the value of my vinyl records just shot up.😊

[@jerrymclellan4711]

Yeah!!! Who doesn't like the snap, crackle, and pop of vinyl?

[@Lily_Anne]

Thanks for another goodie Fil. I don't think that second one is going to be a huge chart-topper. 😅

[@tempusnunc]

Really enjoying your channel and learning a lot.

[@KellySKline]

We’ve only had recorded music for the last 150 years, and modern popular music is already so heavily produced that it might as well be AI. Though I think AI might make it even more difficult for musicians to monetize recorded music, I think live performances, where the musicians and the audience react to each other, are magical and will hopefully still be a way for people to experience music and for artists to make a living.

[@autoazure]

In the second song, the AI sounds more human than some modern musak! Amazing!

[@lindadescafano3749]

That was very interesting as well as the lyrics and you bring up a good point regarding copyright. 😊🎸🎵

[@poncedeleon759]

Interesting video Fil, this is just a little depressing to me, but then I am a grumpy old git

[@MissJensk1]

So am I

[@DianeAvila-bv4fc]

I don’t think we’re grumpy. We just remember what good music was

[@atreb56]

I'm an old geezer who likes no autotune etc..

[@theyouofyesterday6254]

I love new music, and there are brilliant new artists around who play and sing authentically. You don't have to be a grumpy old git to dislike this erosion of art on music.

[@MissJensk1]

@@theyouofyesterday6254 I concur!!!

[@legendmaker694]

There's the same problems we also have with AI-generated "drawings" etc. The engine gets its building blocks from existing works by humans. Just like there are already specialized engines to spit out "art" "in the style of" such or such visual artist, and in most cases we eventually get recognizable bits and pieces copied and pasted from the targeted artist's actual work... Everything we're hearing in these "AI made" songs is presumably a big mishmash of samples from existing records composed, arranged, performed and produced by real musicians, that's just put apart and stitched back together following a whole bunch of "learned" rules and qualities that also come from human music. These two examples are so generic it would be pointless to try and match the source material (or rather the gazillion of partial source materials used to make these composites), but I don't doubt that if we listen to enough examples we're going to stumble upon a specific riff copied and pasted in full, or a vocal line etc. Once fully optimized, it might actually be far superior to human composers and producers for background, disposable music especially for well-defined and very restrictive styles like modern "pop" or "hip hop". Because instead of just taking inspiration or imitating stuff, it will outright isolate the few dozen patterns that are the most commonly used in its available library of hits, in terms of chord progressions, song structure, tone, basically everything. It will check all the boxes and spit out something close enough to work. I doubt there's potential for anything more meaningful to come out of it, thankfully (hopefully?). Ask it to "create" something like Metallica, and it will probably perfectly emulate every idiosyncrasie of James' voice and vocal delivery, as well as his approach to riffs both in terms of composition (for the most part) and performance technique, and so on. It will definitely produce a believable Kirk solo with a ton of pentatonic shredding through too much wah-wah for its own good. It might even get to the point that you could insert such a "song" into 'Master of Puppets' and it won't stand out to someone listening to the album for the first time. But it won't be a highlight either (or if it seems to be, there's a good chance it will be because the engine got a bit too obvious with its copy-paste and it will basically have recreated an existing song). There are entire YT channels dedicated to human musicians doing essentially the same exercice (in futility, in my humble opinion). "What if Slayer had written this Metallica song?'" or "Staying Alive but in the style of AC/DC", that sort of thing. While it's still a lot of work and it can be amusing in passing, so far I have yet to hear any such endeavor that did more than roughly playing the base song with a sound roughly close to the band they're supposed to emulate, and then cramming in as many direct quotes from the target band's own famous songs to make sure we get the vibe that it's supposed to "sound like" that particular band. Which is very far from what they pretend to be attempting. If the actual band were to cover the actual song, they wouldn't randomly tack on iconic riffs, licks, drum fills or vocal lines from their own songs. They'd just play the song, and it would sound like them because it would be them. I more or less expect similar results from "AI made" songs than those musicians in their YT channels, because it's essentially the same process. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if AI gets to the point where you can set it to "early Black Sabbath" and it cranks out '13' after '13', no problem. I'd be extremely shocked (and honestly terrified) if it came up with even one song that's comparable to "War Pigs" or "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" without being a remake of an already existing song, though. Maybe I'm naive.

[@bushwacker8937]

Sounds like Travelling Wilburys with Tom petty lead vocals

[@TheRealDrJoey]

There is very little left on Earth that computers have not utterly destroyed and demeaned.

[@GeeEee75]

​@hws3044 Unless you live in a cabin in the woods with no running water, no gas or electricity, grow your own food (from scratch, without buying any seeds), make everything you use from scratch, and never use money to buy or sell anything, then you're going to be using computers in some way, or at least the resources and items you use will have used computers in their production. You can refuse to use a PC, not own a smartphone, and pay for everything with cash, but that doesn't mean you can escape the influence of computers.

[@GeeEee75]

There's also very little left on earth that has not been improved through the use of computers.

[@TheRealDrJoey]

@@GeeEee75 Another reason I hate them. We did everything before you can do now, only faster, with human interaction, and we didn't spend all day on the phone with some tech guy, trying to make our tools work so we could get a job done.

[@TheRealDrJoey]

@@GeeEee75 You definitely weren't around before 1990, right? They've ruined everything.

[@knightsonofjack]

​@@GeeEee75yeah that's kinda the point of the OP

[@garychap8384]

It's almost at the point where it can represent itself in court and successfully sue you for copyright infringement : )

[@TheBagOfHolding]

You can't copywrite ai creations.

[@DonStratton-cn9rj]

@@TheBagOfHolding Who would hold the intellectual property rights?

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@@DonStratton-cn9rj nobody does for the product.

[@atreb56]

Don Henley will be jealous.😂

[@foobar476]

I guess, legally it will belong to whomever publishes it. There is a case to say that ethically it belongs to the artists that provided all the training data (no doubt, without their permission). People say it is no different to how humans produce work based on the artists that influenced them but machine learning does not seem to be very much like human learning. Time will tell if it can actually produce original work that pushes the boundaries of music.

[@choklityum]

This is so incredibly sad to me. These are the days the music died. 😢

[@seasideman]

That's just silly. Not only do we have the whole history of music, we also have the whole future of music too...some of which will be AI and some human.

[@choklityum]

@@seasideman I'm old school. Musicians play and singers sing. Not a fan of computerized "music".

[@seasideman]

@@choklityum AI won't stop me playing the guitar and singing. If it makes you stop, that's a problem with you, not with AI.

[@choklityum]

@@seasideman I understand the industry will march ever onward. I'm just sad that computers seem to have taken over and stripped away the rawness, spontaneity, and feelings of unadulterated music. We're all allowed to feel how we feel about music. I don't listen to a lot of newer music because it all sounds to similar to me. That's my choice. You get to make your own choices.

[@seasideman]

@@choklityum Fine, stick to old music then and miss all the amazing new music - made by humans - being made all the time. I live in a tiny village of just 1000 people, yet there are at least 5 bands and 2 choirs here. If you choose to seal yourself off from new things and shout at clouds, that's your choice.

[@MrsRosencranz1]

Yeah, the Matrix shirt was a great choice.

[@TopblokeGolf]

Taylor swift and Rihanna have secretly had this software 15 years ago

[@songperformer-ot2fu]

None of this is actually that new, software like Bandinabox been creating formulaic pop music for a long time, without AI, it's then just run through the usual DAW production chain process, most popular music is boilerplate, I've actually been quite impressed by generating classical music in AI, this will only get better, I want to see prompts for the full palette of music theory, that's when this tech really flies.

[@olibertosoto5470]

You're scaring me dude! Well, at least we can say that it's not cheating because it has autotuned vocal chords.

[@deltab9768]

This whole idea makes me uncomfortable

[@MissJensk1]

Me too

[@TheBagOfHolding]

Look up the ai version of hall and oats singing I like big butts and I cannot lie

[@TheRealDrJoey]

Creepy to the max.

[@seasideman]

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you'll just have to get used to it. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle and isn't going back. Music is just the thin end of a very long wedge. The scope of AI is absolutely enormous: pretty much anything that can be learned can be done.

[@ant4307]

I'm sure many people had a similar reaction to new impactful technologies, including the printing press, photography, television, etc. Its here, it's going to improve rapidly, and it's going to be the norm.

[@BTURNER1961]

There is a serious threat to musicians, and background vocalists. Song writers for commerical jingles etc will be competing with a machine that can generate hundreds of versions in less that 24 hours. Wherever originality is not a major focus, and predictability and volume are a major focus, those forms of music are in trouble.

[@philipliethen519]

There is no stopping AI; the genie is out out the bottle. I predict blowback in a rise of small-revue performance by real people playing real instruments because there will be market (by people like me) who want REAL music.

[@GodSponge]

That's one reason I hate remasters. They tend to pitch correct and compress the audio. Then of course streaming services only keep the new versions.

[@FishKungfu]

Great insightful analysis! We are definitely in the age of, "May you live in interesting times."

[@debbier938]

Hi Fil, Very interesting look at AI generated music. Since so much music we hear today is using pitch correction the songs sounded like today’s music, what we hear on the radio, we have almost become desensitized to it. But then there were parts that definitely sounded robotic and mechanical. Thanks for doing this one and I guess we will see where AI goes from here. Nice job… Debbie ☮️

[@debrahartshorn3084]

Very interesting Fil Thanks for this one

[@obiwanduglobi6359]

Hi Fil, a small correction: Artificial Intelligence (AI) is not constantly learning and improving. If you want to train AI, you need to provide it with a new (better) dataset. If you don't like a song and give that feedback to the AI, it won't change its performance in writing your second song. However, in a future version, your feedback might be included.

[@ablestringer9063]

That's not scary at all. OMG it actually would.

[@mikesmithz]

Of course it does, even chat gpt uses reinforcement learning (RL) where the model predicts what you will like, if you then "like" what the computer creates, it is then rewarded. These RL models vastly outperform either humans or larger datasets. So to have a computer make a better 80s song, you don't give it more data in the form of 80s songs - you have the computer predict if a human will like the 80s song a computer created, if they did, then this would be reinforced and the future songs would "improve" using this data. So every time you click either the "like" or "dislike" button on any AI creation, you are basically helping the AI and doing the work for them (for free). Larger datasets only help to a point, the human feedback is the part that is really accelerating the improvements.

[@laartwork]

Overall it is learning. You are talking on a user level. But the backend is a whole other beast.

[@SineEyed]

@@mikesmithz human feedback and reinforced learning _are not_ happening at end-user level. That stuff happens in-house by the developers. There are also different kinds of ai models, and we don't necessarily know which kinds these new generative audio ais are. OP is correct, in any case..

[@techjunkie68smusicandtech56]

this idea was already in play in 'Electric Dreams' where 'Miles Harding' (Lenny Von Dohlen - RIP) asks his computer 'Edgar' to compose a love song for 'Madeline' (Virginia Madsen)who he tries to date. I love that film and the music!

[@petemc5070]

Coming soon: AI pop idols written about by AI journos when dating, followed by gossip about break ups and eventual albums about the heartbreak.

[@carlr2837]

It's amazing. Now that people have been trained to enjoy music where human singera have all been auto-tuned/pitch corrected, humans are no longer needed! The computer sounds just like any modern pop singer.

[@suprchickn7745]

I asked Udio to make me a prog rock instrumental and it's rather impressive. Udio has you stitch 30-second sections together made of various arrangements that are designed to flow into the other saved sections. This is fascinating and bewildering technology.

[@songperformer-ot2fu]

Udio is good, but does suffer from AI coherence issues, quality much better than Suno, but big questions over ownership with anything generated in Udio, where as Suno, is clear, if you pay, you own the rights, already talk of Udio breaching copyright, in the way they have created models, be interested to see how that goes.

[@martinpfeilsticker5420]

In a couple of years we will have chart hits without a human touch - apart from the programmer and the people making money from it. This is going to be killed by copyright lawyers who discover that AI will rarely produce something new but use existing music to train the AI. And existing music has a copyright.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

They can't copyright ai songs so it would be hard to sell and make the charts. We could just take it if we like it.

[@ThorD4602]

​@@TheBagOfHolding this is why the money is in paying for streaming services, not individual songs or albums. The industry has positioned itself for the future monetization of AI media in every way. It is one step down the road of elimination of human made entertainment.

[@indietonne]

Awesome video. Thanks for entering this „competition“ as you did. As a follow-up maybe you want to watch the dr mix episode where he shown AI-support tools for singers and this really blown my mind.

[@lyallg7925]

What a scary depressing world we live in. I hate the world today, and there’s only one way out. 😶

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

🙏 great comment

[@joannaneale9816]

Hey Fil , how about looking at Alison Kraus's voice? Her singing is so perfect. Maybe one of her duets with Robert Plant would be interesting to compare the two voices and styles. She actually sounds like autotune sometimes, although I know she doesn't use it.

[@laveritaforza108]

You know she doesn't use it. That's very comforting. Are you her record producer?

[@joannaneale9816]

@@laveritaforza108 She sounded like that before autotune was invented.

[@laveritaforza108]

@@joannaneale9816 Invented or when revealed to the masses?

[@wingsofpegasus]

She's out here somewhere!

[@rikk319]

@@laveritaforza108 What, are you a conspiracy theorist?

[@Tim091]

Record companies must be very excited at the prospect of producing and releasing "music" that will cost them very little to produce, and with no royalties to pay! Worse is the notion that this feeds in perfectly to the listening habits of the young masses now: playlists. Playlists of a type or style of music, rather than being passionate about and following an artist. "Alexa, play some country" etc. It might as well be AI generated if they aren't interested in the band/artist anyway.

[@TheRealDrJoey]

Yup. This is largely what the screenwriters' strike was about.

[@atreb56]

​@@TheRealDrJoeyI was going to say the same thing.😄

[@rikk319]

Yet it wasn't those "young masses" who invented autotune or generative AI music and art...it was people from the older generations and offered it to the younger generation. People aren't born with knowledge, they have to be taught this stuff, and that comes from parents and society.

[@tammydoolittle6054]

Hi Fil! This whole thing with AI is a bit scary. I hate to think that the future of music will all be "perfected" by AI. So, I personally am against it! Thank you, Fil, for this interesting analysis!

[@blakehelgoth5247]

So, what is the line with effects? Does adding reverb make it not real? Does changing the timbre slightly make it no longer real? It seems the line is hazy. I think we all agree that voice through a wawa pedal is part machine. But, when does it cross over?

[@robertlee6781]

If Tom Petty was a computer, this would be his work.

[@bartbluemusic]

I love the little quirks and inconsistencies with us "imperfect human singers". I love those little mistakes that turn into signatures for a song or album ... (ie: when Billy Joel stumbles and laughs during the song "You're Only Human [Second Wind]" - appropriately named lol - and he left it in the song and now I can't imagine that song without it). I love the emotion and mood that a real singer can bring to a song that A.I. just can't do. Though it is impressive now, I think in the long run, it is going to be our bane. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Can you imagine the possibilities? This can (and will) reach far beyond music and movies ...beyond the entertainment world. Imagine a terrorist or one of the world's most wanted criminals using A.I. to mislead the authorities. We are going to need a special A.I. agency. Don't laugh. THIS is just the beginning.

[@rikk319]

Technology has always been used to trim the fat in so many different fields. Factory workers lost out when automation happened at so many plants, and that's been going on since the 70s, but every time new tech is invented, people at the top use it to boost profits by replacing human beings along the supply chain. Why is it surprising that artists are now being replaced?

[@bartbluemusic]

@@rikk319 I didn't say I was surprised. This scares me. Right now, it is a fun toy. It is as addicting as when Nintendo home consoles first came out. All of us who are from that generation had to have one. What? We can play Super Mario Bros at home on our own TV's now? SIGN ME UP! The video gaming world was never the same again. Video arcades in the malls and elsewhere became extinct. Now, anyone ... and I mean ANYONE can create an incredible sounding A.I. song just by telling the software what to do. That's all it takes. Our Billboard Charts may soon be infiltrated with this. Randy Travis just put out an A.I. song of himself singing. Will it chart? Will others follow suit? No doubt. There are already a lot of A.I. "bands" putting out music. The Grammy's are going to have to add a new category. "Best A.I. Song of the Year". This isn't the scary part. THIS is the scary part. This is only the tip of the iceberg. A.I. is going to reach far beyond the world of entertainment. Far beyond music, movies, or Arnold Schwarzenegger comedy videos. Seriously imagine the possibilities. A.I. has the potential to be used by terrorists or the world's most wanted criminals to mislead the authorites. Don't laugh. We are going to need a special A.I. agency to police these types of activities. There may already be one in place, for that matter. Ten years ago, if you would've told me the level we have reached with A.I. today, I would have laughed in your face and told you to go back to watching your Sci-Fi movies and reading your comic books. Guess what? It's here now and it's real. We are only scratching the surface. We are going to have to reach a new level of security to prevent hackers from creating A.I. versions of US as individuals to access our bank accounts and other personal assets. Anyone will be able to be set up for crimes they didn't commit. Minority Report becomes reality. Think about it. Do you realize, that we, with our faces plastered all over YT, FB and the internet make great targets? Someone could use your likeness using A.I. to create a video or picture with you in it, doing and saying things you have never done or said. Get ready for the storm people. It's coming. I truly believe A.I., though "fun" now and as addicting to use as a video game, is going to be the bane of humanity. And I am not looking forward to it.

[@rikk319]

@@bartbluemusic If you ever saw Running Man, the Schwartzenegger sci-fi 80s film, the villains did a deepfake of him in that movie to make it look like he'd died. I remember telling my friends that someday that would be possible...and it is now. It's dangerous enough for people who understand how the technology can be used, but for poor ignorant saps who aren't very skeptical and eat up anything they see on tv, the internet, or their phones, they will inevitably be suckered into believing things that aren't true...well, even more than they already are.

[@westpoint64]

Sickening. Disgusting. Where does it all end?

[@BoothTheGrey]

I wished we were more focused in enhancing NI = natural intelligence.

[@greggibson33]

It's official. Most of the arts (music, film, graphic design, fine arts, photography) can be replicated and it will only get better as time goes on. So the next question is.... What are human artists going to do once they've been replaced? The same is already happening in dozens of industries. What is society's plan for humans when they become unnecessary?

[@thos1950]

Read Kurt Vonnegut’s “Player Piano.”

[@TheOldTapeArchive]

We can all become AI copyright infringement litigation lawyers. They'll be necessary. Unless AI takes over that field too.

[@greggibson33]

@@TheOldTapeArchive It will.

[@greggibson33]

@@thos1950 The humans lose.

[@rikk319]

The only ones who win are the elite. Having a well-stocked bunker on some privately-owned island won't help when ocean levels rise, though :P

[@Godmil]

If its looking at 10s of thousands of songs and finding the similarities to form the model, is it by definition making the most average/generic version of each prompt?

[@F8Tributo]

It's very impressive for "what it is", which is canned, typical, more of an "album filler", rather than a creative hit. Let's see if it can make something more creative, like "Dolly Dagger", or "Day of the Eagle".

[@dellper1]

I find all this AI stuff kind of scary, but.... I've tried Udio and I like it. I play guitar, some piano, and I'm a decent singer. Now let me explain, I would use it as a song writing tool. You already can put your own lyrics in it. what I would like to see is you're able to put your own melody and maybe the key you want and some kind of guitar rift , you put your own lyrics in. Lets say you are stuck, feed your song into AI to help you finish the song. I like having a full bad at my finger tips. as far as copyright goes, this is what I heard, If it's AI the copyright office won't give you a copyright for it. However, you can still use it and make money from it, but so can Udio. Udio can advertise using the song, Hey look what Dellper created using our program.

[@Insertrandomnamehere412]

Audio uploading is a new feature, but costs money.

[@seasideman]

I haven't watched the whole video yet but I want to say that a combination of AI and Streaming will destroy the current income of many writers and musicians. What I hope this leads to is more live music: people on a stage playing instruments and singing. Time will tell.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

Like vaudville

[@seasideman]

@@TheBagOfHolding No, I meant musicians playing music. Gigs.

[@baneverything5580]

I can`t handle doing solo stuff anymore because of the ignorant requests...unless I can get 30 to 50 feet away from the drunken mobs.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@@seasideman maybe they can use holograms

[@seasideman]

@@baneverything5580 People asking you to play songs you don't like or know? I still remember when crowds used to shout for Freebird.

[@safromnc8616]

Very Tom Petty but the computer has no vocal range. In my eyes, AI is a mistake...

[@aiistyt]

Add that to the text input and it will

[@pilipavicius]

I concur, my first reaction was Tom Petty without any soul or grit

[@brianboye8025]

How very human for us to make AI.

[@carlosgaspar8447]

most pop artists set a pretty low standard to compare with.

[@randomperson-dy6kj]

I heard Neil’s Heart of Gold crossed with Learning To Fly (with obviously fake and soul-less generated vocal) and at least two other songs mixed in that I can’t quite place.

[@therightrabbit]

The best thing about AI is it makes me laugh constantly... I love your vids and your takes on music. Thanks

[@wayneisanamerican]

being 74 years old, it does sound strange and un-human to me! Hooray for real singers of the past!

[@rickleland9526]

Thanks Fil...super interesting. Been waiting for this. AI is full-on crap. Greed driven (of course). So now some real bands will never get their breakthrough because AI bands will bump them down the ranks or have an extremely disheartening effect on some musicians actually working their butts off. "It's the end of the world as we know it. And I'm feeling...like it's time to decide what you believe. It's the end! John 3:16>

[@IntrospectorGeneral]

I'm reminded of songwriter singer Neil Sedaka who had some early success with pop and novelty songs but feared he was heading to be a one-hit wonder. Sedaka then bought the three biggest hit singles of the time and listened to them repeatedly, studying the song structure, chord progressions, lyrics and harmonies before writing his next songs. His next song was 'Oh! Carol', followed by a string of 50s, 60s, and 70s classics written from himself and other artists. Sedaka was open about this as a formula for pop music, backed up by formidable talent as a musician.

[@hugogreen13]

To an audience trained on pitch corrected vocals , they will be receptive to AI music. And the algorithm will deliver personalized music to the individual. And in such a scenario- generic music created by an artist or group will sound - literally- generic. One could imagine live audiences preferring faultless deliveries - by AI - as opposed to flawed artists

[@MissJensk1]

How depressing

[@E-d1d3]

Music tuned to achieve desired outcomes in human subjects. A topic first addressed by the avant garde Canadian film, Strange Brew

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

How do you style your hair like 80's heavy metal bands in the modern times? Do you reference photos? Do you shop around old barbers that still know how to do it?

[@holliemichailidis2951]

It's called a wolf cut/shaggy cut. Can find how to do it on KZbin.

[@greggorsag9787]

I hope everyone sees how this and current popular music are two straight tracks angled toward each other. And we are hurtling down those tracks. Computers move (learn) much, much faster than we can imagine. Fil makes this point at 5:47 and thereafter in a slightly different way. We are being trained and prepared to like this. If people remember the old Sci-Fi film, it’s kinda like “The Invasion of the Music Snatchers.” First come the autotune, pitch correction, and grids, then the singers and musicians suddenly vanish. And marketable music can be produced at virtually no cost. The free market at work. [Btw, the bigger miss here is the snapped-to-the-grid drums, which don’t fit the era and style.]

[@marilynsheffield612]

Great analysis Fil. Hmm well AI is scary. Thank God people have different DNA. 🤣 @wingsofpegasus

[@Perfect_Blend]

There is an amazingly realistic AI version of Johnny Cash singing Barbie Girl and you'd swear it was actually Johnny Cash!!!

[@SineEyed]

That's a different kind of ai than what's being listened to here..

[@songperformer-ot2fu]

That's just voice replacement, AI generation is where you guide an AI to create music based on prompts you give. Voice replacement is actually useful for producing, when songwriting, I have been playing with replacing my voice with female voices when I think a song would be better with a female vocal, to demo to female singers, that way they can hear where I want the song to go, saves time.

[@laveritaforza108]

Back in the eighties I began to notice that they'd replaced the drummer with a drum machine/ computer and the beat remained at the same tempo for the entire song. Of course this is nonsense because a drummer speeds up and slows down with the dynamics/ emotions within the recording of the song. That's what gives it it's feel. No-one batted an eyelid as the programmed drum machine became an industry standard. Should they use a real drummer, he's obliged to play along to a computer giving him a constant beat per minute to emulate. I personally think the end result will be pop stars who don't exist ( holographics ).

[@rikk319]

I used to go to Toys 'r' Us to buy board games...up until the early 90s, there were dozens and dozens of various games for sale. After that, though, it was whittled down to maybe 15-20 different games...why? It was cheaper to stock fewer selections, so variety suffered. The same thing happened to comic books--there were thousands of titles until publishers wanted to reduce returns on unsold copies, so they stopped accepting them, and that narrowed what publishers would sell to only big titles. In college (early 90s) I studied right at the cutting edge of digital photography and Photoshop. My professor said it would put film companies like Kodak and darkrooms out of business...and it did. Before that he'd had to go to typesetters unions and tell them that printing was going to change when computers could be plugged into a newspaper-size printer, and he was laughed out of the building. Now there are no typsetters left and computer/printer interfaces are a normal thing. All in the pursuit of profits and streamlining the "business model" so a small number of people can get richer at the expense of everyone else. It's all like that story about a frog being boiled slowly...

[@corystajduhar]

When you sang the F#4, your note was straighter and more on the grid than the example on the song, so it's very possible to sing that exact at times when one desires.

[@ReigneNation]

I can't be the only one who "hears" it as a Tom Petty (including style of voice) tune....right? (commenting at 4:25 byw)

[@ReigneNation]

Honestly, I hated (and still do) AutoTune because it's NOT REAL aka FRAUD IMO. Every singer f's up (thus why most don't do "one takes") and also why singers usually when live take the song down (note wise) cuz they just can't do it LIVE - and if they don't I can always tell they are "faking it." I wish we could go back to when you had limited time in a studio and were pushed to do "one takes" again & singers weren't expected to sing while simultaneously doing aerobics & expected to be hitting notes perfectly. That's an illusion that needs to go away - should have never been done - it's true Video Killed the Radio Star but now AutoTune etc have killed what real voices sound like while raising unrealistic expectations of listeners. But this has been going on for decades.... Any song I sing I do in ONE take. I don't mashup me singing the same bits and picking the best bits. I sing it 3 times & pick the best from those. But I've always been the odd duck in the pond of much bigger fish....