Testing the Vevor Drill Sharpener

VEVOR Drill Bits Sharpener: s.vevor.com/bfP9Gj
Now in stock in EUR: s.vevor.com/bfQcgn
Coupon code: VVPRO to save 5% off
This is an industrial Strength Drill Bit Sharpener! It costs more than others but, if you want something fast, easy and reliable, this is it. VERY impressive!

[@mftmachining]

Hi Mark, i have the same machine and can tell its top notch. Excellent quality. I sharpend around 800 drills of all possible sizes with it and the disk is still going strong. 10/10. One of the best buys of my 47 years in machinig. I love that little banger.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for the info! Can I use your channel name in a follow up video

[@mftmachining]

@@WinkysWorkshop Yes You can.

[@lesmaybury793]

I have always sharpened my drills by hand. Was lucky to be taught by a drill shop Chargehand when I was an Apprentice in 1964! The bloke was a real craftsman. Now though, will ageing eyes and stiff hands, a machine like the Vevor could benefit, especially for the smaller sizes. Good review 👍

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks, yeah I do well the first 3 times I sharpen a bit... then the original angles start getting off.

[@stephenleacock4371]

Finally !! I've been looking at these sharpeners for nearly 2 years wondering if they are any good 👍 those edges look perfect

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree, there is a lot of junk on the market. This seems to be a very solid sharpener.

[@mikewatson4644]

Looks like a good sharpener. Like many others, I have a Drill Doctor and have been disappointed. If it would do larger bits, I would purchase in a heart beat. Don't let the negative comments get you down. You are doing everyone a service when you give an honest review. The vendor gets additional sales, we get a good product that we can have confidence in purchasing and you get additional tools. Win, Win, Win. I have watched your videos sometimes for a year or so, but I am subscribing today. Thank you.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for your support. I would say the overwhelming majority of the comments have been very positive. I think most people realize that it would not benefit anyone to give a misleading or dishonest review. So far I have done reviews for three different companies and I've told them all the same. If the product is so bad that the review is all bad I will not publish the review. So far this has not happened. In two cases I did go back to the company and ask them to review the video for approval because what I was saying about their product was significantly negative. In both cases the company said to proceed and publish the video. Gotta respect that! The only real complaint I get that I somewhat relate to is that I am supporting a Chinese product. I get that... but here's my take on that. First, in most cases you would be hard pressed to find a US made product. Most product that appear to be made here are usually made in China or at least the parts are made in China. Second, the cost of US made products might be something industry can absorb but most of my viewers are home shop machinists and hobbyists working on a limited budget. I once did a review of a live center for a lathe. The center was $400 and US made and excellent quality. I got more negative comments on that review than any video I have ever published. Mainly comments like, you've been bought, or that center is ridiculously high priced, or somebody would have to be crazy to pay that much for a center etc... In a way, they were right, I got the center free and it was a tool i never would have considered otherwise. The review was honest but you might say I was bought. I try to keep a foot in reality now. I ask myself, is this a tool I might buy. If the answer is yes, then I'll consider a review.

[@mikewatson4644]

@@WinkysWorkshop Yes, I agree. People complain about things not being made in America, but we still make lots of items here. Most are not affordable for hobby worker due to the high quality. The hobby people, for the most part, can't afford to pay for the same quality goods as industry that is using these items on a continuous basis. That leaves import goods to fill in the hobby market. Some import items are good, some not so much. I think you are making a good choice. Thank you.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@mikewatson4644 Thanks Mike, I enjoy comment like yours and look forward to more in the future!

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@mikewatson4644 mrcm makes a great larger bit sharpener. It is basically the exact same machine as the vevor. If you Google mrcm drill sharpener it should come up. I think it is mr 26d

[@ypaulbrown]

good seeing you with the new drill sharpener...........best wishes from Orlando, FL, Paul

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks 👍

[@robinward3003]

That has to be the best drill sharpener I've, in my 45 years as a machinist, and tool & die maker, have ever seen. Over the years, I've tried 3 or 4 drill sharpening machines, and none of them got used more than once or twice, they were slow, and tedious to use. I would gladly use that machine on a regular basis. I'm retired, now and don't wear out many drills these days, but, when I do, my tired eyes need help, and that machine would fix that. Great review, thanks.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree, it is a nice one. Lot of junk out there.

[@donaldsherman7905]

Great review! I have had a drill doctor now for 25 plus years. When that wears out I might consider vevor. My drill bits run to 1 5/8” though, so I need something bigger. Also I have a lot of morse taper 1-4 bits. I’ve been hand sharpening those, and getting better at it each time.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

The bigger bits are for sure easier to sharpen but it would be nice to have a Jig

[@dcraft1234]

I love this machine. Didn't have to assemble anything, the collets don't come caked in grease and its very quiet and smooth. Your video was so good I didn't even look for the directions and had great success! The only thing is if you do a follow-up video please make note to check under the cutting edges for burrs as that will throw the angle off on that side. Also, if the angles are way off or damaged, you have to realign and grind a few times. Many thanks Winky!

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for sharing I may be doing a follow up and I'll share the info.

[@DNomer]

You do a nice job with these reviews.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thank Dennis!

[@rsc4peace971]

Very good review and pretty much on the spot regarding your rating and recommendations Winky. I have a few of their woodworking tools and some general measuring tools and they were "Good enough" for the cost with a bit of tweaking/adjustments, they are as good as many expensive brands. I bought their X-Y table after your review and was not disappointed since after some cleanup and adjustments it has performed flawlessly. It is a good thing that there is so much competition in the tool/machine, the DIY community has a "CHOICE OVERLOAD" of sorts.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree with your assessments. The mill table is a good one although the lead screw are junk. I just got another one for the restored drill press. It will have DROs. A mix of very old and new.

[@rsc4peace971]

@@WinkysWorkshop I noticed that but for most of my woodworking needs, the mill table is overkill. I am using it as a poor-mans cross-slide for my wood lathe where I can turn small plastic and even aluminum (even brass) parts to a reasonable precision of 0.01 inch

[@RAYAR54]

Hi Mark, looks like that machine is doing a great job, the angles look real good.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Its fantastic just a little pricey!

[@kentuckytrapper780]

Looks like the real deal winky, I've been sharpening mine by hand so long I've got petty good at it, great video, keep'um coming..

[@WinkysWorkshop]

This thing works fantastic. Thanks!

[@matter9]

Good video, nice to see some info on this unit. I used a Sowa brand version at an old job. The build quality was what you’d expect from the brand. I’ve looked at this tier of machine and noticed some differences but nothing that would likely impact the resultant ground edges, due to the adjustments built into the design. I don’t remember there being any way to alter the split point part of the machine, so in that respect this machine might be better. Eitherway the Sowa put a phenomenal point on everything I fed it, which lead to me learning more about identifying optimal cutting conditions and which parameters to adjust to tune a process. Good stuff 👍

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for the comment.

[@budnoel4915]

The centering knob is to set the split point to align centered. It won't move until you loosen up the allen that locks it in place so it's not that the spring is extra stiff, that's to keep it raised until it is locked back in place. If it didn't get locked it would be able to move down if you put too much preasure downward. Hope that helps.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting... I'll look more closely tomorrow. Thanks

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Do you know where to obtain the backwards collets for the small drill bits? I am looking for like 2.5, 3.5, 4.5 mm collets for this machine.

[@budnoel4915]

@@jeffshackleford3152 Not sure but the problem will be aligning the bit properly, Vevvor says not to try smaller bits. Hope this helps

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@budnoel4915 do you know what the reversed collets are called?

[@trumpsucks2290]

thank you for the pleasant and honest review. i agree those drill bits after sharpening look superb, sharp and brand new.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Its a little high priced and only goes up to 1/2" but it works great!

[@trumpsucks2290]

@@WinkysWorkshop I have the drill doctor 750. it works great but the finish isn't as smooth and fine as your machine. It uses a 180 grit sharpening stone. I might consider getting the same one you have in the future. thanks for the awesome review.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@trumpsucks2290 Mr. Pete also did a good review on it

[@trumpsucks2290]

@@WinkysWorkshop nice. overall the drill doctor 750x is a good machine. it does sharpen bits up to 3/4" in diameter which is a plus. the sharpened bits seems course in appearance (not as clean and refined as the vevor) but still is sharp enough to drill. will definitely consider the vevor in the future.

[@pacoal]

Nice piece of equipment, seems to be a reasonable price for something that WORKS and built shop tough. I like it. 🤩

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think its worth the money if you had a machine shop and had the need to sharpen drills a lot. For the home shop its a bit high

[@radbot1]

I have this same machine, always used to sharpen by hand and can do it well, my eyesight is still 20/20, but they got this machine in at work and I always use this now because of the wonderful job it does on the split point. Once it's adjusted right it gets a perfect point on all sizes. The adjustment is for the split point to get both cuts to meet in the middle, but looks like yours is adjusted right anyway.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah, it works nice.

[@angelramos-2005]

Good review,Mark.Thank you.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@billjulian9496]

Mark, great video! I bought their Plasma Cutter on your review, this is a bit more ching than I need to spend but who knows, I might hit the lotto!

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yes I with they could drop the price a bit. It is however an excellent machine!

[@ypaulbrown]

This is a wonderful demo, I own a Black Diamond drill sharpener, and the Vevor does a much faster and easier job... your mention of CBN is also helpful..... Just last week I bought a CBN wheel for the Balck Diamond, and could not believe how cool it ran and how few sparks it made, I am kicking myself for not buying on sooner..... and I did some modifications on carbide countersinks with no issue,,, ,I even took a 1 inch 3 flute countersink and changed it from 90 degree to 82 degree, the temperature went form 80 degrees to 86 degrees f with no spray coolant..... using a stone wheel, I needed a spray mist to keep from burning bits...... CBN is the way to go..... thanks so much Mr Winky, Paul

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree... CBN is totally amazing! Thanks

[@basildouglas855]

I have used similar gadgets for drill sharpening. The best of the models that I have used would be the “Drill Doctor” However, the drill that was sharpened in this video was excellent. These dill sharpening gadgets all achieve a reasonable job in sharpening drill bits. This Vevor model, produced a very well sharpened and shaped result. I agree 10/10 good job.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks! And thanks for the input.

[@GlennNowOnYouTube]

As far as the review goes, I think it went well. From what you showed us the grinder did the job. As you know, everyone is going to have an opinion on what they saw and mine is Great 👍 video,like always.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks, I may also do a follow up and address some questions.

[@Preso58]

Good thing it has a CBN wheel. I think that's the main drawback on some of the cheaper versions of this tool. Usually they are underpowered and the wheel slows down and wears excessively. It certainly seems to do a good job.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree... the addition of a CBN wheel would make other sharpeners look much better. With that being said, the motor in this thing is large and more powerful than most.

[@johncloar1692]

Nice machine Thanks for the video.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for watching!

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

In a few months bring us back for another visit with the drill sharpener.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

yeah... this one works well

[@mftmachining]

Harold, i have it for 2 years now, sharpend around 800 bits and it works like brandnew. Machine is top notch. Nothing less.

[@marcseclecticstuff9497]

Split point drills are normally ground at 135° not 118°. When splitting the point, grind the 2 flats until they just touch forming a straight line across the tip as viewed from the end.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I'm not sure about the angle but otherwise it grinds a perfect cross.

[@bobuk5722]

Hi Mark, thanks for this. Like others I have a Drill Doctor but I've been disappointed with it - likely my lack of practice. This looks more likely to do the job with less hassle on my part.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Glad it was helpful! As near as i can tell its fool proof.

[@kenwood8665]

Great video well done

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks 👍

[@dcraft1234]

I just bought one based on your review, so if it doesn't pan out, you'll be hearing from my lawyer! 😆 Vevor is having a promo and with the code you supplied its down to $240 shipped.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Good deal... Good thing you know me as Winky :o) But seriously, you will like it.

[@donsengine3158]

Winky with all the cool toys... Funny, I've always sharpened off hand on the grinder but as my cataracts get worse and my hands loose the stability I once enjoyed, I've actually thought about buying something like this. Thanks or sharing Winky. Don

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yeah... I do okay on large bits but anything under 3/8 I start losing my way after the 3rd sharpening. And if you get a little off center the hole gets bigger! This is a good one although a bit pricey

[@donsengine3158]

@@WinkysWorkshop It may be a little on the high side, but Ive never had good luck with OTC sharpeners, and drill bits will add up fast if you can't keep them alive,. So its probably worth the investment. Or you could pay a mint and get a Deckel. But on the flip side they aren't exactly fast setups for cleaning up a bit or two on the fly. I don't know if you noticed in my vids, I have a drill bit cab next to my mill. Used to be I could pull from there and every 6 months or so take a truck load of bits to work and knock em out early in the AM before we got going. My new job doesn't have that luxury, so you may have just made a sale. Don

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@donsengine3158 Made a sale for Vevor... ha. Yeah, you'll like if you get it. Its super fast. I sharpened my whole drill index in about 10 minutes.

[@daveticehurst4191]

Great Gift there Winky, about $ 400. I have a different make and it works great. My split point pin ( 1 ) is fixed and it gives a different shape grind to yours. Had a Drill Doctor originally, but was crap compared to one of these. My drill size selector knob goes in drill sizes not collet size. Enjoy using it. Regards from Australia

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting on the split point. As long as it works well. I wonder what the optimum split point looks like?

[@davidcat1455]

Dave I bought mine from Hare and Forbes in Brisbane Best thing I ever did.👍

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@davidcat1455 So did I in Adelaide, they are agents for Machinery House. As you say best thing since sliced bread, great tool. Regards

[@davidcat1455]

@@daveticehurst4191 Cheers😃👍

[@robertsanders1916]

I have sharpened over 250 bits of all sizes with my drill doctor. Even 15/16 with the large bit holder. But i may try a vevor in the future if they drop the price a little.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

It only goes to 1/2" but its a good one.

[@bertjetolberg103]

I have the same over a year now and Im happy with it I had a drill doctor and the best thing it did was burn down The only issues with this are the scales one for angle and one for diameter These are just stickers and are not in the accurate position so i have to sharpen my 130 degree drills at 124 degrees Further its a Nice tool

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I may do a follow up... I'll pass this information on.

[@Wachuko-1]

I have been looking at the Drill Doctor but have never pulled the trigger... I wonder if I should spend the additional $$ on this one instead... The fact that it has been more than a year since I have been going back and forth on buying a drill bit sharpener should say something about how much I really need one, hahahahhaha... Also, I agree with the comment from Sam's Auto... if this was being sold for less than 200.00, I would buy it in a heart beat... I see that their is a promotion of 10% off... hummm 254.69 and your code takes it down an additional 5% to 241.95... shipping is free... oooohhhh goodness... Thank you, as always, for these videos. Wife hates them because I always end up with a new tool 🤣🤣

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yeah... I wish I had a drill doctor to compare it to. This is very well made but like you said... how bad do you need one? Several comments said they loved their drill doctor and several said they did not.... hard to know!

[@marcofiore2535]

Thank you your great review on these machines, I wondered about how good they are. I feel a bit more confident about buying one now but I still see a lot of different models. Is there a model number I can use as a guide?? Much appreciated Marco

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I have the MR-13B. Vevor gave it to me for doing the video but at $269 I probably would never have bought this machine with money out of my pocket. However, after doing the review I have changed my mind. In my opinion this is the best drill sharpener available. With that being said, I think the relief angle is slightly off. The drills work great after sharpening but when using a hand drill they seem to require more pressure. I modified mine. The modification limits the amount of rotation (while sharpening) a few degrees and increases the cutting edge angle. I'm not saying the original angle is wrong, in fact it might be a matter of preference. I think the different model numbers indicate what grinding wheels come with the machine. Mind has a diamond and CBN. You want CBN for standard HSS bits.

[@wizrom3046]

I have seen spring tension knobs that look like that top knob. To adjust it you pull the knob out (upwards) then turn to the desired position and let the knob go back in. They adjust the spring tension, although I have no experience with this machine and can't say what the spring is for. My machine with similar knobs is a wire cut/strip machine and the knobs control the spring tension for wire clamping force.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I'll look closer at it... I'll eventually figure out what it does. Right now it works perfect so I didn't want to mess with it. Thanks!

[@samsauto1640]

I would have to say you hit the nail right on the head with your rating. I have a Drill Doctor that works... OKAYISH... but I always wondered what machine shops use to get their bits razor sharp. Personally I have quite a few Vevor tools at my automotive repair shop, but I also don't care for the instructions on any of them. If the machine was $199 I would buy it in a heartbeat, but $283 is just a little bit too steep for hobbyists like you mentioned. Honestly if Vevor would hire someone who speaks fluent English to write the instructions and their website descriptions, they would probably get so much business, they could open chain stores like Harbor Freight.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yep... I 100% agree... too high for the hobbyist and yes, higher an English speaker to rewrite the instructions. Give them a drill sharpener as payment :o)

[@Bob_Adkins]

Drill Doctor works great but it takes practice to get all the hand and wrist gyrations and wobbles accurate. The points are accurate and they cut well, but the chisel edge looks like it was sharpened with an axe. There's a finer wheel available that makes a big difference!

[@milantrcka121]

@@Bob_Adkins Really! Where can I get one of the finer wheels?

[@Bob_Adkins]

@@milantrcka121 Amazon has them, and probably any store that sells Drill Doctors.

[@theshed8802]

I've got a similar machine. Does 4 facet sharpening, and you get a very nice split point. I use 135° for most of my stuff nowadays, very rarely do I go back to 118°, I'm on my 3rd set of CBN wheels, but I will sit down and sharpen several hundred drill bits at a time. I've found that it's faster to use the machine, than try to do it by hand. I've also got a larger, 2 station machine that uses ER20 collets for drills up to 13mm, and then ER40 collets for bigger drills. The best things about these machines is that they never have a bad day. The grind is always on the money. Regards Greg

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for the comment Greg. I'm curious, how does it do the facet grind and why do you prefer the 135 grind?

[@theshed8802]

@Winky's Workshop the 4 facet is essentially an exaggerated split point. You set it up the same. It just takes a lot more off. Where yours just touches the tip of the drill, mine goes in much deeper, and it it swings through a wide arc. My grinder uses a single stop pin on top. If you search for split point drill sharpeners, you should see some listed. As to 135°, I remove broken bolts for a living. Almost everything I do is free hand, and it is seldom easy to get too. 135° flattens the face, reduces the the amount of cutting face engaged, and reduces the physical load on my body, and wrists. It requires less power to drill the same hole. Additionally, when I am drilling harder materials, like a lot of exhaust studs, the drill will bite better. You will often find that if you have a drill that just slips around on the surface of a material, flattening the angle, and increasing the clearance facet, will enable it to drill nicely, as opposed to the standard grinds. I often modify the the clearance facets by hand on bigger drills, essentially creating a 6 facet drill to reduce the width of the face behind the cutting edge of the drill. The narrower that gets, the less power that is required to drill, but the weaker the drill becomes in that area. All that said, based on personal experience, I would recommend that everyone buy a drill sharpener of this type.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@theshed8802 Very interesting and thanks for the detailed reply!

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Does the er40 collet holder fit in the er20 adjustment port?

[@theshed8802]

@@jeffshackleford3152 no. ER40 is way too big. Just look at the differences in size of the collets

[@nonameyet7162]

Nice review. I would need one of those. Expensive at 385$ Canadian and it's not yet available on the Canadian website. I bought their 5 inch Heavy Duty Bench Vise Double Swivel Rotating head a couple weeks ago. Super well made. I love that they put hammered paint too on their tools. It ads to the quality. Just ordered a 7x12 mini lathe from them this afternoon. Only ran a lathe maybe 10 times at my old job. I just went with the cheapest they have to get me to learn. I got it for 587 taxes in. Thinking to maybe also get their 6 inch grinder and their 6 inch belt sander. The tools they sell are definitely worth buying.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think Vevor is hit and miss but for sure some of the tools are good.

[@nonameyet7162]

@@WinkysWorkshop Every worker has Monday's and Fridays. Monday's are for recovering and Friday's are "can't wait for the week to end. Probably the reason for the hit and miss. hehehe

[@johncmitchell4941]

'Great review! I'm now considering this to replace my ancient Lisle 92000 and I like it for the price. Setting the dial on the left differently than the collet number may affect the final relief angle and/or amount of stock removal but not enough to worry about. YMMV I expect the dial on the point splitter to allow tweaks for the wheel position to 'split' to center. The pins are to set the split angle relative to that of the lips and I'm sure that pins and the offset adjustment can be set for conventional web thinning. I'd use an old wheel for that to preserve the other's sharp corner for splitting points. Make sparks, Boys!

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks, the grinding wheel is CBN so no worries about wearing the corners. I have a CBN grinder and abuse the heck out of it.... it will not wear as long as you only use HSS

[@johncmitchell4941]

@@WinkysWorkshop The point splitter I ran for 6 years at GM used a 1A1 CBN wheel, about 300-350 HSS crankshaft oil-hole drills/week. So it's a matter of numbers but dressing the wheel was needed every other week or so to clean up the wheel's sharp corner. Cheers.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@johncmitchell4941 If you were dressing the wheel it wasn't CBN. It never needs dressing. The CBN is imbedded into a steel or aluminum surface. Dressing the wheel would remove the abrasive. kzbin.info/www/bejne/garQmqNqft1ngKMsi=BY3IqYbQYHaeNVma

[@siliconvalleyengineer5875]

indeed that look excellent

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think its better than most

[@crlist1453]

according to another vendor for the same machine suggest that the pins are adjusted for drill size 2 o'clock position for small drill 10 o'clock position for large.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting... I try this. Thanks!

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks for sharing

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Thanks for watching!

[@timogross8191]

With the instructions I got lucky, I got a hands on instruction actually grinding some drills when I picked it up. :-) ( different make, but same system) Did you have a look, maybe the wheels are one Diamond and one CBN? Or do they have different grids? There are differences in machines that look very similar. Fit of the rotating mechanism. Alignment of the wheel for point spliting. Type and number of wheels. CBN vs. Diamond. Runout and wobble of the grinding wheel can be worlds apart. Alignment procedure of the drill can be different.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

My wheels are both CBN I believe but now you have me wondering. My instructions said they were CBN. I took a quick look at them and they looked the same but maybe they are not. Yeah, setup is everything. If the machine is setup perfect you are good to go. Looking at the website it says two types of wheels! - I will look. THANKS!

[@melgross]

These are special grinding collets. So yes, they’re used (and made to be used) backwards. That gives a narrower nose than possible if they were made to be used the “normal” way.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting. They work well.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

What are the special grinding collets called? I am looking for some small collets, the ones that are not backwards do not hold the drill well enough to sharpen them.

[@melgross]

@@jeffshackleford3152 well, grinding collets. But usually there’s a grinding collet chuck that you need with these backwards collets.

[@outsidescrewball]

Very good review…interesting

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks

[@andyZ3500s]

Lucky dog looks like a nice little machine. Vector must of watched your drill press restoration.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Its very weird Andy, They contact me periodically and ask me if I want to review something. Last time they asked if I wanted to review an ultrasonic cleaner or some garden tool. I relied, no thanks, that kind of out side my channel content but you can send me a drill sharpener if you want. And that's how I got it. And yes, I do feel lucky.

[@andyZ3500s]

@@WinkysWorkshop Hey Mark, sorry for the slow reply. I just finished watching your second video on the drill grinder. Like many others that commented I own a Darex Drill Doctor. I do not know how familiar you are with them but the basics of how it functions is pretty much the same as the Vevor. The Drill Doctor is like a toy though compared to the Vevor which is more like the Darex industrial sharpeners. One can tell that Vevor had the sharpener built to a high enough standard while still keeping the price affordable to the homeshop. It takes a bit of feel to get a decent grind on the Drill Doctor which is getting harder every year! There are two things that I am curious about the Vevor though. It looks like it is built around a A/C motor plus I was wondering are the grinding wheels a common size and angle or are they using their own wheels? I know that I don't comment as much as I used to but your channel has grown so much that I hate to take up more of your time saying something that has already been said. It is hard to believe that you have been doing this for five years know. I was lucky enough to find your channel when you first started out. I hope that all is well and that you have been feeling decent lately.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@andyZ3500s According to Vevor the wheels are available plus the grinder is sold under several names on Amazon and Shars sells one too. I suspect the wheels are all interchangeable. I'm not sure if you have tried a CBN wheel yet but as long as you use them only for HSS they last almost forever. I have a CBN I've been using for years now and there is no sign of wear... very amazing. Yeah... The channel took off after the car videos but it will never be to big to reply to a good friends comment. You've been with me a long time. Right now I'm getting over a cold... you can hear it in my voice in this video. Plus my right knee is messed up. Not sure what's going on there. Both knees started messing up after the last covid booster i got. No more boosters for me.

[@andyZ3500s]

@@WinkysWorkshop Hi Mark I have been meaning to reply but I haven't been feeling well lately. I have some things that I would like to talk about, nothing important. I hope that your knee is doing better and it is nothing permanent. I'll send a Email soon. Keep the videos coming Andy

[@lroyson]

Can you sharpen end mills on this machine? Thanks for the review video. It was very helpful, and I may purchase one based on your review.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

No it does not sharpen end mills. This is a very good machine however since doing this review I made a slight modification. I put a stop on the part that rotates the collet while sharpening. This makes the cutting edge relief a bit more and makes the drill cut a little more aggressive. Much better for drilling with a hand drill. I can't say the angle was wrong because it depends on who you ask. Mr. Pete came to the same conclusion but he set the dial that indexes the drill in the collet to a higher of lower number.

[@rocketbob]

Sharpener works great. Only gripe I have is the setting fixture isnt deep enough to set up for for a worn drill. Planning on removing a 0.010"-0.020" off the face of the setter. Would like to remark the knob scales for SAE sizes.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting... I guess none of my drills are worn enough to create a problem. I thought about labeling the collets and dial as well.

[@jroncallo]

Hello Mark, excellent video. One thing I might add is it is also required to remove the wheel to change the point angle. The machine does not come with an 8mm Allen wrench. The 8mm Allen wrench is required to change the drill point angle. The 8mm Allen wrench is also required to change the drill center using the knob above and to the left of the point splitter. Yes the directions are not good at all. I have also found that newer style drill bits have a fairly large overhang of the of the cutting edge over the center of the drill. I found that I need to back off the adjustment over 1 complete turn to sharpen these bits.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I've never seen the overhang issue but Mr. Pete backed off the setting for indexing the drill in the collet to increase the relief angle. After making these videos I ended up making stop on the rotating mechanism to limit the travel. It makes the drills would much better for a hand drill.

[@jroncallo]

That figure they show, where the cutting edge needs to be parallel is the key. I noticed my new drill bits are nowhere close and I have to back off over 1 turn to get them parallel. The older drill bits are pretty much parallel with the setting set to the collet size. Might be the new bits have just a wider web. @@WinkysWorkshop

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@jroncallo Key? You must men the flats on the collet I've never had that happen but i can see how a wider web would change the position.

[@jroncallo]

@@WinkysWorkshop Yes the flats on the collet holder must be parallel to the cutting edge of the drill bit. They do mention that the adjustment is for the web width that gets wider as bits get shorter and they need to be compensated for with the adjustment. In my case new bits that I purchased from Mcmaster-Carr are wide the full length of the bit even when new. For a 1/2" bit I need to back off ~ 1-1/2 turn.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@jroncallo I used McMaster Carr often but in this case I'd change suppliers. I'm sure the intent is to strengthen the drill but it also makes the tip of the drill wider. I'm not saying I've never broke a drill but its not usually an issue.

[@tterry53]

That is about 1/2 the cost of my Darex bit grinder which I have had for 20 years. I like the looks of this machine.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

It seems solid and fool proof. Simple

[@vtwin6]

I love my Darex…pricey but high quality and it will do up to 3/4 bits

[@WinkysWorkshop]

That is nice!

[@wallaceknifeworkshomestead]

Good looking Machine! hmmm,,, another tool on the list to get 😁

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yeah. it's a bit high priced but a very good machine.

[@robertwalker7457]

Thankyou.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

You're welcome

[@terrycannon570]

Mark I'm just gone go ahead and say it "If YOU say it is good then I believe it is good" . The price does not scare me if it is good. 2 questions I have is what is the min/max size drills it will sharpen? Second question is, have you used some of the drills in steel to verify they cut as good as they look. I have had good and bad results with the Drill Doctor I have. Excellent review. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

It goes from 1/8" to 1/2" although stated in metric. At the end of the video I drill in steel with 3 different sizes but admittedly its an abbreviated clip that doesn't show much detail. I think I'll do a short follow up video Friday. I have several questions other have asked that need to be answered.

[@MF175mp]

I just bought the bigger version that sharpens up to 20mm. Should arrive in about a week. Got about 100-200 dull drills in a box waiting for it already.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Cool, would be nice to be able to sharpen larger drills!

[@MF175mp]

@@WinkysWorkshop I would like the ones that go up to 32mm but they start to be out of budget and I don't use the bigger drills that much

[@waldbar-8053]

I may add some Points here... The WEB Diameter (The Knob on the left Side of the Machine) is the Core thickness of your Drill, the distance between the both chip . Give it a try when Grinding next Time start with the backside of the Cutting edge and work your way to the Cutting Edge. And never grind Highspeedsteel with a Diamond-Disk, makes your Boss unhappy and eats away the Carbide of the Diamonds realy fast

[@WinkysWorkshop]

The knob on the left side is numbered in drill diameter not web. It indexes the drills cutting edge to get the correct orientation. If the web thickness is too thick (like when sharpening a broken drill) it will effect this setting and the number will need to be higher. Yes, CBN is way better than Diamond for HSS.

[@CafeenMan]

I produce a product that has a lot of holes. I'm drilling through birch furniture-grade plywood. The problem is three-fold. First, the bit gets too dull after about 300 holes. Second, the bit is small enough that it's always on the extreme edge of what drill sharpeners can handle. I find tools don't work very well at their advertised extremes. Lastly, it's not just that the bit gets dull but it also gets smaller in diameter. So I'd have to cut off about 1/4" to get back to full diameter and then reshape the point and then sharpen it. For bits that cost a little over a buck each, that's just not worth it so I buy bits 100 at a time and just discard them when they get dull.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

This sharpener works well on smaller drill although admittedly it becomes more challenging to use. I would say about 3/16" is the limit for easy sharpening. Smaller dill still sharpen find but you have to pay attention when you position them in the collet. 1/4" and up are very easy. With that being said, twist drill are not ideal for wood.

[@jdm2651]

The machine is made by MRCM, the leading Chinese manufacturer of grinders/ sharpeners.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting. thanks for sharing.

[@derekwilkinson7939]

Nice machine.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think so to, Thanks

[@garyr7027]

Nice looking bit, it's good to have a good camera to show the results enough to see details. How much does this tool cost?... if you don't mind my asking.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

The close ups were my phone camera :o) I wish my regular video cam would get that close. The sharpener is $280 I think... link in the discription.

[@garyr7027]

@@WinkysWorkshop good phone camera. I figured this tool would be kinda high, but then buying new drill bits all the time can get expensive... Lol It's worth it imo, nothing worse than using dull bits then having to go get a new one in a pinch situation.

[@01thomasss]

Thanks Mark Just one question: does the Vevor also do left-hand drills?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I can says with relative certainty that it does not.

[@frijoli9579]

The split should be deeper. That looks like a decent machine.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

You may be right.

[@reaper060670]

Hey Winky mate.. That is a proper piece of kit man.. I've wasted a lotta money on crap drill bits over the years. I need to buy me a proper full set like u have. I wanted to ask u about the Tap & Die sets on Vevor? There's a set for 93.00 euros but I'm not sue how good they are so do u think Vevor would send u a set of them to test for them bcos I really want to get a good set for my shop. I bought some new 10" table saw blades this week. I got me a 28T & 40T SAXTON Blades.. I have to say that the rip cuts from these make odf blades is phenomenal. I only paid 50 euros for the 2 blades and they ar fantastic. Now I bought them on Amazon and not Vevor but I wanted to let u know. This drill bit sharpener is really nice though. I recently bought a Wet/Dry grinder for the shop as well. I really don't want to waste time sharpening my chisels or knives.. I've been on a mad one buying tools again but It's become a bit of an addiction now.. LOL I was telling u that I bought 2 drills set from Vevor and they're really impressive I have to say and they only cost me 95 euros. The impact driver is brilliant. Ok so they're not Dewalt or Makita but they are brilliant nonetheless.. Take it easy my friend and I look forward to more content from u soon..

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I've never thought about the tap and die set. I'm fairly well set on both right now. To be honest, that is one item I have noticed large differences in quality Even brand names vary in quality. Last time I got a Irwin tip it was garbage. Same with one I bought from Fastenal. I used to get then from Fastenal all the time but now they are junk. The last two I took back. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm a little bit afraid of the Vevor tap and dies. I guess I could back out on doing a review if they were real bad. All my reviews are 100% honest but I also told Vevor that if they sent total junk I would not do the review.

[@EL34XYZ]

My Drill Doctor works great. Been using it for maybe 10 years.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I've heard the same and also much cheaper but i have also heard many say they were disappointed. I've only tried the cheaper ones. They were all way under powered and did not have the cbn wheels.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

@@WinkysWorkshop I have had good success with my Drill Doctor sharpening bits 3/8's and smaller. Larger bits I use my Sterling.

[@jimbennett1519]

I have a drill doctor but only use it on small drills cause the old eyes ain't what they used to be lol. If I can see it I can sharpen it by hand the old school way,very cheap and efficient

[@EL34XYZ]

@@WinkysWorkshop Mine has a small diamond wheel. I get really sharp bits and so maybe I don't know what I am missing not having a CBN wheel?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@EL34XYZ Diamond is great and has some advantages, you can grind carbide. From what I have read is the CBN cuts slightly faster and cooler for HSS. How much faster and cooler is hard to say. I'm just saying, if all you're sharpening is HSS it makes sense for go with CBN. Nothing wrong with diamond!

[@leowatkins3718]

Just a thought, have you unpacked the spare wheel and looked at it? My point is , is it identical or different for different drills? Great revue.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I looked at it and thought it looked the same but somebody else in the comments said it is carbide. Time to take another look!

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I just looked. i would say you are correct, one says CBN and the other says SD which I suspect is Diamond.

[@silverbullet7434]

Works better then my blue drill sharpener. Mine has the left hand tool holder to ,,cost extra. Wheels are stone but are cheap..think this ones much better ..

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yeah,,, LH is not an option on this one that I know of but it is a great sharpener.

[@oh8wingman]

The reason that the smaller collets have a small bore on one side and a larger bore on the other is simply small bits tend to be much shorter than larger bits and if you had the small bore all the way through you might have trouble removing the bit from the collet. One problem at present is according to their website they have no stock and are waiting for resupply which, considering what is going on in China right now, could be a problem. The price at $289 US is a tad high for one individual but a group of two or three of like minded friends might be able to pool their resources to get one or you could sharpen bits for them for reasonable fee. I am fortunate enough to have a cutter grinder so bits to 13/16 are no problem for me. Strangely enough, the CBN wheels can be found on EBay. I recently purchased one for my cutter grinder for doing split points on end mills.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yeah... Vevor just told me 2-month. Apparently this video had some effect on their inventory.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Basically I do the sharpen other people's bits for money thing. We also have a reimbursement deal where I work, so if I travel and need stuff they will pay me back. This machine has allowed me to out several K in my pocket. So if you have tradesman friends or work for a trade company doing lots of metal drilling, this item pays for itself extremely quickly.

[@rogerrascal8632]

split point looks right to me

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think so too

[@sedivaksedivy]

Ahoj Marku, vytvořil jsi opět pěkné video - sleduji tvůj kanál. Je mi s podivevem, že strojař tvé kvality ještě nevlastní univerzální nástrojovou brusku. Přemýšlíš o ní ?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I use mostly insert tooling so don't really need a tool grinder. I do have a CBN wheel for HSS profile cutters however. I've had several drill grinders but this one is better than any I've tried in the past.

[@mrcpu9999]

Is this turning into the vevor channel? I swear the last few times I've checked in, it's been vevor this and that... Still enjoyed it tho'. :)

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Well.... I think there have been 5 items total. They seem to have good value. In some cases like with the chucks and mill table I would have bought them anyway. This drill sharpener, probably not but then again.... after using it maybe I would. Its a nice sharpener. I see Vevor and an enabler. It can now afford to do things that might otherwise be stretching my budget. Every time I get a product from Vevor I tell them I'm going to be 100% honest with my review. So far this has worked out. I needed a drill sharpener so I offered to do the review. The only thing I have done a review on that I didn't really need was the plasma cutter. I will use it but not much. The best thing I ever did a review on was the YesWelder TIG. Not being a professional welder I was a bit apprehensive but wow... what a cool welder! So to answer your question. No, not a vevor channel but in the future I may feature their products in project. It keeps things affordable. Thanks for watching.

[@_P0tat07_]

Looks like a larger, and much superior version of the drill doctor. Not sure how I feel about the collets, versus a single adjustable Chuck like the drill doctors have. But I’m sure after a few uses you can do a whole drill index quite fast.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I like it. I do not have a drill doc but other have said this is much better.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

The collet system is way better, the only thing missing on this one is the grabby pincers from the drill doctor. If it had the pincers it would be 100x what the DD is.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@jeffshackleford3152 grabby pincers? Maybe the index stop? I like this one but I think the rotation on the collet holder mover too far in one directions so the lead edge angle isn't as sharp as I'd like..

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@WinkysWorkshop not sure what they are are called on the drill doctor, it is the part that aligns the flutes of the drill properly in the drill doctor machine.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@WinkysWorkshop I agree with your assessment about possibly rotating it too far on the vevor. That is really the only complaint I have about the vevor, is that it is hard to tell exactly where the drill is being indexed.

[@cosimosanfilippo9050]

I think your rating is perfect, and so your explanation. I am the Old school, I sharpen drills by hand, (if they are used somewhat with the right approach they should stay sharp for long time) Please, I need help with the 3/32x11/16x5" P3N 5% Cobalt Parallel Cutt-Off Blade (2000-7030) Please forgive my English is limited it's not my first language... Thank you. "Cos."

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Send me an email an lets see if I can send you some blades [e-mail]

[@makefitdepartment8621]

The differences between models is not clear on the MFG website, which model do you have?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree, very confusing. I have the MR 13B I think the differences are what grinding wheels they come with. Mine came with CBN and Diamond.

[@GoPaintman]

It says online that this will do end mills too. Did you try doing that on this machine?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think this is either a translation issue or the person creating the web page has no idea about the product. This is a drill sharpener only.

[@gregggoodwill9391]

Finally received the machine. When I grind the split point, the cross section extends down the web on both sides. I set the machine up like yours. Any ideas? And yes the instructions are horrible.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

If I'm understanding right some are telling be that is the way its supposed to be. Look at this link. Scroll down and look at one of the pictures about half way down. topcordlesstools.com/blog/what-is-a-split-point-drill-bit/

[@imetr8r]

I have the same machine and also find it an excellent tool. I've come across sellers on the 'net who advertise it as an "End Mill, Drill Bit Sharpener". However, I can see no way to sharpen end mills with this device, have you?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yes, very misleading.

[@anthonycash4609]

I have the drill doctor 750 X and it was the biggest waist of money I have ever spent in my shop. Sad thing is it doesn't work nor is it heavy enough to use as a boat anchor . Now just standing there and sharpening bits and saying it looks great doesn't do any thing for me. They said the same thing with the drill doctor. Now if you had sharpened a bit then took it over to the drill press and proved it drilled the hole with no problems then that's a good review . But just by looking at it and saying that does a good job nope that does not sell me. And if you go looking on you tube at bits being sharpened you very rarely see anyone go straight from sharpening the bit to the drill press and prove it did a good job I've seen none but I used the word rarely due to I know I have not seen everything on you tube.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I did she show the drills drilling through 1/2" steel at the end, three sizes I believe. In hindsight I should have done some slow motion shots. The chips coming of the bit tells a lot about the grind. There was one aspect I touched on briefly in the video I should have covered in a bit more detail. When you index the drill in the collet holder there is a dial and a number you set to the collet size. If you set this dial higher, say one of 2 mm's higher, the drill angle becomes more aggressive. I played with this a while and decided it did best when used as intended however, this could be very useful for a set of drills used in a hand drill where it's hard to get good pressure while drilling. Maybe I need to do a follow up. Is it okay to use your name? What is it specifically you would like to see?

[@anthonycash4609]

@@WinkysWorkshop Mark I didn't mean to sound so critical, and if I came off that way I'm sorry. It's just hard sometimes to see people do these reviews and we watch as the viewers and we have to purchase these items if we want them as I did with the drill doctor and my beef with the drill doctor is you can find hundreds of people that feel the same way I do,It does not work correctly. And with that being said my faults with it is it will sharpen a bit to some what but let's take a 1\2 inch bit for example as long as you drill a pilot hole first then the sharpened bit will work but with out a pilot hole it will not work and I have put many hours into learning it to be able to use it. I just want to know I can take a bit that is very dull and will not cut and see if sharpened then put to the test to see if it will drill a hole on its on with out any help such as a pilot hole. I don't care if you use my name. If I had to guess I fall in the same category as you. I have a home shop and love to build things. I've been a welder all my life and enjoyed it very much. But I hate spending my hard earned money and the product doesn't work as advertised. Thanks for all your videos and I've learned lots from you and enjoyed following you and your builds.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@anthonycash4609 You didn't sound too critical at all. You made some very good points,

[@simpleman4224]

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[@WinkysWorkshop]

You bet

[@cogentdynamics]

Are the bearing surfaces of the cam plastic? I also have a drill doctor which in my opinion is slow and the indexing system is not very easy to use accurately. The collets are a big improvement over the universal “chuck” of the drill doctor. I’m not very smart so I could be missing something but I have never gotten a split point worth a s#*&. The instructions on my Drill doctor are on VHS which makes them even worse now days that the printed ones you had trouble with.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Cam? Everything it steel and the rotating piece the collet fits into is steel inside a bearing. The split point adjustments are confusing but solid on this machine. The only thing that bothers me is that there is no way to adjust the relief angle. It would be nice to get a slightly more aggressive grind for hand drills.

[@cogentdynamics]

@@WinkysWorkshop I was thinking the mechanism"rocked the drill while it was rotated. adjustable relief would be nice but I usually just want as much as I can get.

[@keithhansen3963]

Thanks for the video. FYI- that did not create the correct split point. Rather thinned the web. Some combination of those pins by the splitting port will allow for a complete split point. Web thinning (as you performed) is appropriate as the drill shortens over lots of grindings. Examine a factory split point drill and you'll see the difference.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

You maybe correct however I did as you suggested. The only factory split point I have are spotting drills and they have the exact grind I made. I've seen what you are talking about where it grinds what I would call the heel but when I move the pins to do this it doesn't split the point completely. Maybe I need to leave one of the two pins out.

[@keithhansen3963]

@@WinkysWorkshop Hummm, shame they don't offer any explanation in the manual (Chinese, surprise-surprise). However, next to the split point port. seems I noticed two stickers (point grind and point split). These are two different grinds. Point grinding is synonymous to web thinning, which is what you performed. Reorienting the pin will allow for a change to broaden the grind for a proper split point. The adjusting knob you referenced I believe will allow to draw the grind toward the center. I'll be interested in your findings. Thanks for the effort as this model actually surprised me.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@keithhansen3963 I do need to experiment some more. There is the knob with the strong spring and the block the collet sits in on the top can move left or right. Its in a track with set screws holding it.

[@marcseclecticstuff9497]

This design is superior to the cheap plastic Drill Doctors but still falls short of a proper drill grinder. Love the use of DA collets vs a chuck, they'll be more accurate assuming the collets are ground decent (a crap shoot with cheap Chinese collets). The grinding action is where this really falls short. It operates the same as the Drill Doctor in this regard. The main issue is you grind 1 side, flip 180° then grind the 2nd. This makes getting both flutes the identical length difficult and very dependent on the amount of slop in the mechanical system of the grinder, and operator skill. If the flutes aren't identical in length, the drill will cut oversize holes and exacerbate tri-lobbing of the hole. This usually isn't a big deal in a home hobby shop, but would potentially be an issue in industry. I'm also happy to see that they used CBN and not diamond like the Drill Doctors. Steel quickly overheats diamond wheels which breaks the bonds holding the diamonds in place leading to rapid wear. I guess Darex (the original DD manufacturer and the only ones I used) wanted to sell lots of replacement wheels since the vast majority of folks probably don't own carbide drills outside of masonry bits which can't be sharpened on either the DD or Vevor anyway. I've been a machinist for 45 or so years and have had a home shop for 35+ years. Professionally, I'm currently the senior CNC tech for a large machine shop responsible for maintaining/repairing everything in the shop. I was in production whittling out parts prior to getting into maintenance close to 20 years ago. I've probably purchased a half-dozen different types of low-end drill sharpeners over the years including the original Darex Drill Doctors and always been disappointed with the results. You could get a decent grind but it took forever to achieve I ended up purchasing a Tru-Point grinder which I believe is an Italian made updated version of the Black Diamond drill grinder. I put a CBN wheel on it and I get nice sharp drills that are ground accurately and drill on-size holes taking about the same amount of time as this Vevor albeit at a used cost of slightly over double the Vevor cost. All things considered, judging by remote control, this appears to be the best design for low-end grinders I've seen to date and would be a great addition to any home shop. Because operator skill is going to directly affect the accuracy of the grind, and its lack of versatility, I couldn't recommend using this in a professional shop.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

>>This makes getting both flutes the identical length difficult and very dependent on the amount of slop in the mechanical system of the grinder, and operator skill. If the flutes aren't identical in length, the drill will cut oversize holes and exacerbate tri-lobbing of the hole. Totally agree however this one has very tight tolerances which seems to make it do very well. My only complaint. is that the it is hard to adjust the relief angle. It needs a way to adjust the angle or limit the rotation of the drill.

[@shootgp]

That appears to be an ER style collet. Which ER size if so?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

ER 20 I think

[@steveforbes8287]

The second wheel is a diamond wheel for use with carbide bits.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yes you are right. I realized that later - Thanks

[@brianwolfe87]

Do they have one that sharpens end mills, like 2,3, or 4 flute?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Not to my knowledge

[@JFSmith-nb8hf]

I've used quite a few, most were junk. This one looks pretty good. Personally, I'd save my money. I have two perfectly good drill sharpeners that I've used for over 40 years.👐 Although the optical sensors 👀 are about worn out.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Optical sensors? hahaha... My optics work great for the first sharpening and maybe the second. After that they loose the original angle. Yeah... I've used junk too. This one seems to good and solid.

[@gregggoodwill9391]

Hello Sir, thanks for your review. Based on your opinion, I ordered one. Don’t like the Drill Doctor. That stack of dull bits is going to get smaller soon.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I think you will like it. I know I was very impress aside from the terrible instructions.

[@aguycalledlucas]

Everything is pretty much made in China, the bigger question is who designed it, at what price point and what’s the quality control process. If that machine was fabricated in the US it would easily cost over $1000. It looks like a quality machine for $300.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

It seems to be very nice.

[@tomagregg]

Can you sharpen cobalt with the CBN wheel?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yes

[@carldietz9767]

The other position is fir back cutting the tip.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yeah... I figured that out but thanks anyway. I've never moved it

[@jubiletabustamanteserrano2446]

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[@WinkysWorkshop]

It lists for $280 but it was free to me for doing the video. Thanks

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Does anyone know where to get the small collets that go to this machine? They appear to be backwards in that the drill grip hole is on the tapered side nit the flat side.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yes they are used backwards although I'm not sure they are different collets.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@WinkysWorkshop I was trying to use a " standard" er20 collet and since it holds the drill from the back side, when you grind the drill, it will move slightly when the drill is under load, causing the center to be slightly off.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@jeffshackleford3152 ER collets usually grip along the full length, or at least more than most collets. Maybe not enough

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@WinkysWorkshop I didn't know that. Maybe I got bad ones or something, but one side of the 3.5mm collet I ordered is large, the other is 3.5mm.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@jeffshackleford3152 The collets that came with the drill sharpener are made backward in that they have a larger OD on the larger end but I thought standard ER collets were parallel. I guess I was wrong.

[@dennistennyson8856]

At a cost up to $500.00 it should come with American collects and grind 3/4" drill bits like my Drill Doctor.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Yep... $500 is ridiculous. Vevor is selling it for $255. Yes that is still high but if I had a machine shop it would be well worth the price. The quality is really surprisingly good.

[@shinymud7]

I got a new vevor metal lathe and it poped the fuze when i turned it on. Bugged them for 2 weeks for the fuze size and they didn’t know. They had to get the engineer to text me. Mother board fried also. Not a fan of the brand

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I didn't know they had a metal lathe but I would feel the same. I'd say it's basically the same and the Enco, Harbor Freight etc. Good luck.

[@messenger8279]

The pricing of this is all over the place. From china alli express as low as $62 + Aus postage $170. I've seen it as high as over $700 Aus on other sites.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Wow... that is crazy. I've seen it s little cheaper than Vevor but not a lot.

[@messenger8279]

@@WinkysWorkshop I cant get my head around.There are 2 sellers and similar prices.Check it out for yourself.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@messenger8279 I think it's kind of like two Walmart's in different parts of the county operating independently selling the same product. It is weird.

[@messenger8279]

@@WinkysWorkshop Its also about the item being sold direct from small independent sellers who can buy cheap within China and sell on without the huge mark ups and profits bigger companies need.

[@vaughanellis7866]

As an apprenticed Fitter/Turner of 40 years I've never found an automatic drill sharpener that fully worked even the bigger industrial ones. I've used them for roughing the profile of the drill then hand grinding them to a finished profile. From what I've learned its not something that's taught to apprentice's today.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

This one seems to do well

[@vaughanellis7866]

@@WinkysWorkshop Would depend if its just touching up blunt drills or resharpening/re-profiling ones that is chipped to hell. If its the former then I can see it being useful, the latter not so much.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@vaughanellis7866 This sharpener takes off more than any I have tried in the past. I'm guessing about 1/64" (although this is hard to measure) and it does it very fast. I 100% agree with your statement with ay sharpener I have tried in the past.

[@ravenhhca]

Does this do left hand drills?

[@WinkysWorkshop]

No it doesn't

[@lv_woodturner3899]

Interesting machine. I have the Drill Doctor. This looks to be a better machine, just more expensive than my Drill Doctor. CBN can wear out. I think it is the matrix holding the CBN particles which gives way. Same thing happens on my diamond sharpening cards. A local wood turning friend purchased CBN wheels and a jig to sharpen turning gouges. This jig holds the tool in exactly the same position. I noticed that after only a year of use, the centre of his wheels have a section with no CBN particles. Dave.

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Interesting on the CBN. Maybe I should not have made such a bold claim. I will say that I'm had one for several years and its exactly the same as new. Also, I've heard of a slight initial change in sharpness and chipping but never actually wearing down. You friend may not have an actual CBN wheel. That is counter to everything I have ever hear and experienced .

[@DavZell]

Your friend may or may not have had a high quality wheel. As a turner, that is not something I've heard of as an issue. Also, one should not apply much pressure against the CBN wheel. The abrasives will do the work without it. Your friend friend may have applied too much pressure and ruined his wheels.

[@lv_woodturner3899]

He has a good quality CBN wheel. I have a CBN wheel from the same supplier. I do not have a lot of use on my wheel, but mine looks like new. Dave.

[@jasonhahn4470]

Where is the relief angle

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Because its a radius grind the relief is hard to measure. As near as I can tell its about 10 to 12 at the cutting edge but becomes more extreme just after the leading edge kind of like a facetted grind. If you are talking about the extreme relief on the back side of the flutes there is more than enough relief in my opinion. It's possible that these extreme grinds might aid in chip removal but I've never notice any improvement. I never see them in the major brand names known for high quality... but maybe I'm not understanding your question.

[@jasonhahn4470]

@@WinkysWorkshopI've never use a sharpener before so I didn't know the grind had cutting edge and relief ground at same time..

[@andreaspagnatosquit3844]

sidamo makes the same one just with its label but it's also chinese. drill doctor 750 X it's not great, I have one and I'm disappointed. I saw several of those in chinese stores on the internet, I had a doubt anyway, I may buy one too, but they sell them expensive, too expensive I think

[@WinkysWorkshop]

I agree... its a lot to pay for sharpening drills. Vevor gave this one to me but if I had to buy I would consider sharing the cost with a neighbor of friend. It took be 10 minutes to sharpen all my drills... it would be easy to share.

[@andreaspagnatosquit3844]

@@WinkysWorkshop yes I know, I think I'll buy one soon, I'll break the piggy bank and see it in video it's good. I like what you do, I'm also a machine and workshop mechanics enthusiast. I also invent machines and tools, soon I'll have to invest in a plasma, a mig, a tig, a lathe and a milling machine. I'll be like a child at Christmas in front of all this, it's my dream

[@WinkysWorkshop]

@@andreaspagnatosquit3844 Cool dream