winning arguments is easy, actually

[@easyactually]

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[@Novaurawr]

Congrats on the sponsor

[@MathematicaAdvanced]

Do one on "Math is easy, actually" Lol Also "Powerscaling is easy, actually" "Quantum mechanics is easy, actually"

[@jonk7821]

Getting a sponsorship is easy, actually

[@silly6147]

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[@LeventK]

@@easyactually I will

[@HJRC_]

The "no you" tactic is undefeated

[@shadow-crafter0]

no its not

[@HJRC_]

@shadow-crafter0 yes it is

[@juandiceclove]

@@HJRC_no it’s not

[@NebulomX]

@@HJRC_ it’s literally not

[@atti_odyssey]

@@HJRC_so basically you’re saying pressure washers should be outlawed?

[@AVeryCooIName]

the best argument is to just disagree without any explanation

[@Beanlicia]

no

[@NebulomX]

I disagree

[@FirstPersonShenanigans]

no it's not

[@atti_odyssey]

this endeavor is intravenously erroneous, furthermore without fundament or comprehension.

[@WitheringRose13]

⁠​⁠@@atti_odysseyyou may claim this, but it’s simply not true. Any rational person with common send can see that his point, while not the only correct answer, is a strong card to play in any argument. You may use “big words” in an attempt to convolute the conversation, but that’s just a cowardly tactic that is only used when people can’t properly give their reasonings. You claim that his argument is without reason but can you say ^Why it’s without reason? Or what the proper reasoning even is? Even explaining this is pointless when the listener is as daft and clueless as you are. /jkily

[@mecha6510]

He forgot to mention a fabled method known as the person repeatedly telling you to "calm down" once they realize you're about to make a really good point

[@TehSuperHero]

Oh my god this is so true it hurts

[@dimscrawl4910]

1. Be right. 2. Don't be wrong.

[@jamessloven2204]

3. Don’t back down.

[@seregruin]

4. Stay away from stupid people.

[@adityakhambeteIIT]

i disagree

[@1337WA]

Fun fact: if you use all 36 ways of arguing you have a near 100% chance of getting in a physical fight.

[@aaryanjb1815]

no u don't

[@lamilanesa99]

@@aaryanjb1815 Ok you are right

[@the.starman]

So basically, you're saying the Nazis should have won the war? Aren't you ashamed?

[@jonathancobb3522]

I was going to comment something similar.

[@SeaPear0]

oh so you're saying black people will attack me if I try to have an argument

[@liaolii]

I never knew I needed a simulation of a discussion between Socrates and a stick figure over a jar of cookies.

[@Centinym]

Easiest way to win an argument is to steelman an argument. Find all the flaws in their argument, highlight them, fix them. THEN beat the superior argument. This does 2 things: first of all, it shows you know the argument better than they do. Second, it shows you are engaging honestly.

[@NebulomX]

I see what you’re going for, but I think calling steelmanning the ‘easiest’ way to win an argument is misleading. Steelmanning requires deep knowledge, empathy, and time to analyze and strengthen someone else’s position-it’s honorable, but far from ‘easy.’ Also, while it might show you’re engaging honestly, many people aren’t equipped to appreciate that effort or might even feel attacked when their argument is reframed better than they presented it. Winning an argument isn’t just about logic-it’s about understanding emotional dynamics, biases, and the audience. Steelmanning is a great way to foster meaningful dialogue, but it’s not a universal strategy, and definitely not the simplest one to execute effectively.

[@legendarien1075]

Holy cow you just got respectfully steelmanned

[@Centinym]

​@@NebulomX You are absolutely correct, but let's run with with the idea that steelmanning is the single most resource intensive method of debating a point, let alone winning the argument. It is more expensive, possibly the most expensive. But the reason you want to open with a steelman is that it is the single most complete and effective method of ending an argument. And thus the easiest. What is the most vexing part of an argument, if not their tendency to drag on? By bringing out the strongest and most good faith argument you have right from the start, you set it up that you either win the argument outright with only a few chasing questions after *or* your opposition are forced to move the goalpost or engage in some other technique to extend the debate. By opening with a steelman argument you have a full measure of who you are debating and for what reason. And in that capacity, it is the easiest way to win an argument. Your second point is also correct, but at the same time, if someone cannot recognize a superior version of their own argument, even when it is to their absolute advantage to accept the improved argument, that itself can be used to gauge as if continuing the debate would be fruitful at all. So, even if steelmanning fails, as you rightly believe it would for certain parties, it helps you get to your preferred win state faster. I am glad you agree that Steelmanning is useful. And again, I agree, it cannot hand you a free win in every argument - but opening with it is an excellent way of determining what kind of argument you are having, what your victory conditions are, and if the conversation is even worth pursuing beyond the initial thrust.

[@lamilanesa99]

@@NebulomX ok i agree now

[@ultimaxkom8728]

So it's called steelmanning. TIL. Although I do it in reverse; breaking their strongest (value-wise) arguments first and then the weak ones later.

[@cs1045]

To win an argument you must stop trying to win and rather understand your opponent.

[@Magus.2d]

I try that but It's really hard if the other guy's logic is bs

[@unfunnyfailure]

@@Magus.2d In that situation, use a metaphore that is so incredibly simple that they would need to have room temperature iq not to get, I trust you can do it

[@MrDarkPage]

@@Magus.2d The other guy's logic almost always 'feels' bs. And the other guy probably thinks your logic is bs. Understanding you oppononent is understanding why their logic actually isn't bs after all

[@boredaf_cj]

Philia Sophia - Love of Knowledge

[@tattoogaryn3407]

Yeah you’re probably right

[@silly6147]

Me: Uses tactics to win argument My mom: Im older Me: damn

[@LeventK]

That actually is a valid argument in a lot of situations, it's just that sometimes your mom will use it incorrectly on purpose.

[@WildBear_2013]

​@@LeventKfound you here:)

[@I_Love_Learning]

@@LeventKI can't think of lf any circumstances off the top of my head where "I'm older" would trump an actually good argument in anything a parent or child would be arguing about. Do you have any examples?

[@LeventK]

@I_Love_Learning basically things that you get better with experience, there is very little chance that someone older than you haven't gone through what you are going through. Especially if you're a teenager.

[@I_Love_Learning]

@ I would argue that that isn't true per se, and as such would always be better if there was some other claim in-between. Thank you though!

[@Novaurawr]

actually, it’s not easy

[@easyactually]

you're right haha

[@norkshit]

@@easyactuallyno u

[@yamlanki825]

​@@easyactuallyImmediately applied lmao

[@SKBF1N7]

(I ignored this comment)

[@archittler4171]

what makes you think so? is it not easy for everyone or is it your personalized response? does your past play a critical role in your construction of this opinion? is it applicable to all the videos about this topic?

[@AdTe]

it's easy, actually say they're wrong and *_refuse to elaborate._*

[@CJ-lq5rh]

I can’t believe I get the opportunity to be the first to say that this video is just a chapter out of How to Win Friends and Influence People!

[@STRONG_STORM555]

Glad to know, Now I know I already have the knowledge this video offers.

[@desertshield]

Uhm, just read it. Just a few points but not all of them.

[@sirdumpybear]

I actually disagree, because you are wrong.

[@AmanMuhsin-p7s]

​@@sirdumpybearyes

[@techwithirfan4577]

​@AmanMuhsin-p7s No

[@Edil1978]

Okay then. Ill win a argument against my father then (Edit) I won.

[@imstupid7614]

you fool he's already a master at using 4.)

[@suikinng4232]

If you can withstand his belt, you basically won

[@Edil1978]

@suikinng4232 Now thats a real challange.

[@Johnnysmithy24]

Your father is watching the same video

[@aksaek1502]

But is he really your father, if he‘s not listening to you?

[@MichaelPiz]

Dammit, now I want to pressure wash some cookies.

[@magicien233]

I usually like to win arguments by flexing really hard and asserting my dominance via having larger biceps than my opponent

[@AddyEspresso]

Plato?

[@LeventK]

Gigachad?

[@desertshield]

Absolutely valid

[@aksaek1502]

So can you show your bicep to proof your point or is your bicep just not real?

[@jamessloven2204]

That is what Plato did. Not a joke. He was an Olympian wrestler. Plato was a nickname from his wrestling coach, meaning broad, referring to the size of his chest and shoulders. He would get into arguments and flex at his opponent while they were talking.

[@AdTe]

9:19 The Politician's Playbook...

[@sheepy7128]

The last speal of intellectual phrasing was actually making my head hurt 😵

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Haven't read many science papers lately, as nobody really talks like that in real life.

[@rairaur2234]

It kinda boils down to "semantic satiation," when you lose a sense of meaning about the word(s), pulling the carpet from under the whole discussion

[@tutlamc]

Me: tries to win argument Teacher: Respect teachers Me: Goes back to youtube and scrolls

[@obamacrockadile2136]

being a narcissist has never been so hard

[@fmo608]

You should do a "achieving your new years resolutions is easy, actually"

[@UziFern]

he wont cause its not easy, actually (unless you plan to follow it for 2 days..i dont....)

[@Snakehandler268]

Secret technique: use “erm, actually” and force them to talk about how you said erm actually

[@LubinEnDevPerso]

☝🤓erm, actually, that works in theory but that would never work in real life

[@cruze_the]

​@LubinEnDevPersotechnically you used a slippery slope fallacy, try harder next time 😊

[@dandaedalus]

1:30 erm.... well actually 2 factorial is just 2, so 1+1 does equal 2! actually.............

[@BlazingMeteor-w1b]

So, basically, what you are implying is that the sum of two numbers is equal to the factorial of their sum. Then, by your logic, 2+2=4!= 24, 2+3=5!=120, and so on. This is clearly wrong. Hence, I have irrefutably proved that your argument is FALSE. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@FeloCoptic]

Easiest way to win an Argument: nuh uh

[@aaryanjb1815]

nuh uh

[@essamateeq]

Yeah uh

[@AttackHelicopter-k3u]

What?

[@sebastiandierks7919]

10:58 "or their pets..." 💀🐈🐕

[@cheeseman4828]

Methods 1-3 are very underrated, I use them a lot of the time and I live happily

[@ultraenzo]

you can never lose an argument if you are not in one in the first place

[@PakuZero]

Yes, you can, just because you aren't engaging doesn't mean someone can't make you lose

[@haselnusschen25]

I can’t even be bothered to win an argument at all costs so I’ll just use the easy methods 😂

[@lifeiswonderful22]

You know what's better than winning an argument? Not arguing at all.

[@akira6457]

I like using the good ol' days tactic:with duel at high noon

[@11Stormtrooper]

Twitter must've read all those 36 ways

[@zsoltnagy5654]

Question for Gemini: "Hey, Gemini. Is there a more easy and lazy way to win an argument other than by outsourcing the reasoning process to a large language model such as you? This isn't a request to justify that approach but to inform onself about there ontologically and objetively being a worse approach than that. Thank you!" Gemini's response: _"Yes, there are definitely easier and lazier ways to "win" an argument than consulting a large language model, though whether these are objectively worse depends on what you value in a discussion. If your goal is simply to appear victorious regardless of the truth or validity of your points, here are some options:_ *_- Aggressive interruption/Talking over the other person:_*_ Simply not letting the other person speak or finish their points can create the impression that you're dominating the conversation and "winning."_ *_- Shouting/Raising your voice:_*_ A louder voice can be perceived as conveying more authority, even if the content is weak. This can intimidate some people into conceding._ *_- Changing the subject/Red Herring:_*_ When you're losing a point, abruptly shifting the focus to a different, unrelated topic can derail the original argument and give the impression of control._ *_- Personal attacks/Ad hominem arguments:_*_ Instead of addressing the actual argument, attacking the character or personal traits of the opponent can distract from the issue at hand and make them defensive._ *_- Gaslighting:_*_ Denying the other person's reality, memories, or perceptions can manipulate them into doubting themselves and conceding to your viewpoint._ *_- Simply refusing to engage further:_*_ Walking away or declaring the discussion "over" can be framed as a "win" by the person who disengages, especially if the other person is still trying to make their point._ _These tactics are generally considered fallacious and unproductive in a genuine attempt to find truth or understanding. They prioritize "winning" over constructive dialogue. Using a large language model, while not foolproof, at least attempts to engage with the logic and evidence of an argument, which makes it a more intellectually honest approach than the methods listed above. Therefore, while lazier methods exist, they are arguably worse in terms of intellectual integrity and the pursuit of truth."_

[@LuckyM1nd]

so the last part is how to be an asshole 101

[@Somekidonyt]

Yep, method number four made my lil bro get really mad

[@Schattenmaler]

I recognize you had fun with the last one...

[@ellagrace7029]

Testing products on animals is moral

[@dhruvmehta1681]

this youtube page is very underrated, and one of the most original, entertaining, educational, channel, why aren't more people watching this man

[@wertzupok1113]

no its not

[@supersonical8770]

The Socrates argument example is exactly how me and my dad argue. Expect instead of a cookie jar, it's about the dubbing of Squid Games.

[@HillelSabban]

As a who uses logical arguments I can confirm I’ve been hit with all the ways to win an argument😢

[@rishitjoshi-2911]

The speed at which I clicked on this is crazy

[@Gabriel-TSM-Global]

Congratulations, easy, actually for getting 27k subs in 15 hours! Excellent, my fellow interlocutor!

[@DeWillpower]

one time i found myself in an online argument because i said something very specific and important to the discussion and then someone else replied to my claim saying it wasn't true. i prefered to not reply back, their reply really felt like "the big words method" on my end and they also talked about a research but they didn't provide said research and at the same time i know of a research that backs my claim. as i said, i preferred to not reply back, but i still feel bad for it and for them

[@godgaming1064]

Love your videos man ! Great content hope you keep this up 😄

[@shadowbadgercat]

1:15 is annoying when you actually want to learn something yet the other person thinks you’re arguing when you’re just confused.

[@gromey9259]

yeah u can always trust skeptical regress

[@godlypumpkin8745]

I remember watching you when you had like 4 videos, congrats man

[@rairaur2234]

You didn't have to summarise my Discord experience like that

[@slowlife2158]

The hardest are arguments you never meant to have. I have a friend who wants everything to be an argument when all I want is to make pleasant conversation. So I’m stuck agreeing to his false statements to keep it pleasant (my original goal), or disagree with him and enter an argument I never wanted to have. Maybe I should reevaluate my friendship with this dude…. PSA: consider whether your conversation partner actually want to argue with you before you start arguing with them. You might lose a friend over it.

[@khaleel795]

1:52 Got a google ad

[@ahmedabdulrahman5541]

Same...

[@ProfessorPolitics]

The fun bit with the "Not a factorial" comment on "1+1=2!" is that, even if it were a factorial, it'd still be correct.

[@seanrodrigues8184]

Learning an instrument is easy, actually 🔥

[@legendarien1075]

Depends on the instrument, your physical abilities, the level of proficiency you wish to achieve, and the time/money/effort you're willing to use in order to attain that level. Basically I'm really good at the cowbell

[@whisperpone]

I like living in my own little bubble, thanks

[@LeventK]

Why?

[@winter_ghosth]

I hate people like you

[@ugnenapryte5620]

@@LeventK stepping out of my comfort zone is scawwyy :c

[@legendarien1075]

​@@LeventKAll that exists is your bubble, now. You're the most important thing to you. Stuff like that idk

[@germyz]

Hit them with the "so your telling me" and make them seem super dumb, makes them mad and gets your point across

[@The_Stable_Engineer]

Telling to google 1+1 in opera sponsored video is easy actually

[@Darksorcen]

Easy way to win an argument : what does Google say ?

[@mathixvw]

I like using the socratic questioning, but in a genuine, honest way. When I argue with someone and believe they say something fake, I try to ask a question which's answer will highlight what is fake. Sometimes I get surprised by the answer that ends up being legit and I change my mind myself and "loose" the argument.

[@steelblue0]

bro’s voice sounds exactly like viggy 😂😂

[@EclecticMick]

Whenever someone thinks you're wrong, just recommend a book.

[@emperorsascharoni9577]

I highly recommend Counter Arguments series on how to change someone's mind based on the movie 12 Angry men.

[@gratermccheesy9650]

It’s a good video

[@Gabriel-TSM-Global]

Ah, **sigh**I love the Socratic method. So annoying, like me…it’s perfect…. I actually love Method No.24 as it involves using communicative phrases that a minority of people are not wonting to; thus I can seemingly restore mental equilibrium while actually undermining my opponent…..

[@Subset4Life]

i love you so much easy,actually

[@chlorophyll1415]

When dealing with random people, it will all work. But if you're with them for a long time, they'll just realize that you don't have any normal proofs and kick you out/leave.

[@OptimusRex979]

You should do a video on becoming a KZbinr is easy, actually This is just one idea Lets see if u like it P.S - big fan of yours

[@The-Rick-friend]

9:28 honestly i don't suggest this, it will just make the person infront of you lose his respect for you.

[@VinnieGer]

I will use this to make me a worse person 😈

[@hollowshiningami3080]

1:36 ironically those are the (only?) two numbers that the factorial wouldn't have affected the value of. 🤣

[@Zingyyy09]

I was looking for this lol

[@greatshorts-t4s]

This is amazing. So applicable in real life.

[@mikemdos8310]

#16 was diabolical

[@farazfirouzkouhi4329]

I wamt to request being funny is easy actully

[@splatticus1507]

6:27 had me wheezing lmao

[@kujojotarostandoceanman2641]

It was revealed to me in a dream that your argument is false

[@The_Orgin]

2! is 2 and 1! is 1 I don't know what you were worried about.(Not arguing, just sayin')

[@samstromberg5593]

Wait I didn't even That's true

[@THE_rated_F3]

Beating insecurity is easy, actually.

[@mrnoblemonkey8401]

Taoism utilizes a lot of these ideas for defusing and avoiding these conflicts

[@southcoastinventors6583]

How many people are Taoist ?

[@mrnoblemonkey8401]

@@southcoastinventors6583 two or Three at least i say

[@LubinEnDevPerso]

well, that works in theory but that would never work in real life

[@eduardovictorfurlaneto805]

For some reason i just think i have seen the part "How to properly defuse an argument" in a book before, i don't know. It was "How to win friends and Influence people" or something like that

[@legendarien1075]

"Or something like that" lol so nonchalant about the fact you read things

[@eduardovictorfurlaneto805]

@@legendarien1075 this was the joke lol

[@NoahtheGameplayer]

I usually try to be logical when it comes to answering the argument, But it is how the way you say it that makes it sound either rude or polite when you're trying to explain your opinion about this and that, So at the same time it's hard to say, Especially when I say something. Sometimes they think I'm angry even though I'm just calm when I'm typing

[@patathatapon]

Alternate title: Politics 101

[@Member_of_MENSA]

12:30 is definition of Jordan Peterson

[@wolfman100hits]

1. Attack attack attack 2. Deny all accusations 3. Even at your lowest point dont ever admit defeat

[@FBI_agent_4859]

Hey guys can someone argue with me i wanna practice I'll start: does pineapple belong on pizza?

[@firebluewolf6862]

No

[@TapGames123]

hi man , im a 14 kid watching your content and i love it but i got serious insomnia and i was wondering if you can help make a guide on how to take care of your self and it be about how to make a routine and how to sleep right and how to wake up , plus i want to study more because if i dont i might repeat the same year . Hope you get 1M

[@mbici6969]

You've clearly underestimated the power of "🤓☝"

[@mic44448]

Getting a girlfriend is hard, actually

[@legendarien1075]

Getting a girlfriend "you desire" is hard, actually. Fatties, grannies, trannies, disabled folk, lower your standards enough and you'll be just fine

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Depends on your standards

[@TribalCarnival1]

The unethical argument looks a lot like a certain groups online discourse 👀 hint: a shade of red

[@southcoastinventors6583]

So both sides then

[@armitx9]

10:06 that's a simile not a metaphor

[@norkshit]

“no u”

[@devilyt8592]

10 seconds ago is kidney touching

[@JoshuaCarr-y7k]

Okay being president is actually easy and do being a super hero is actually easy

[@uwoowoayaya]

You could omit the "(again, not factorial)" for 1 and 2!

[@YoniAnimates]

I hate dogs! I'm kidding I love them.

[@slyceth]

Combat #7 by answering with anything but no

[@ej-webber08]

Best strategy: “when?” or “who?”

[@ajaxgakure]

Can you please make a video on how to study kess and get better grades. Please it will help many students ❤❤

[@palmtv3538]

1:35, Actually, not to start an argument or anything, but you actually dont have to say "not factorial" as 1 = 1!

[@Lothyde]

I argue that the Earth is not a sphere, nor is it flat. It's actually a dodecahedron. It makes perfect sense when you think about it, the Earth's surface exhibits a variety of geological and topographical anomalies, including mountain ranges, plateaus, and deep ocean trenches, which align with the dodecahedron's twelve faces, each offering different terrains and elevations. Additionally, the Earth's magnetic field is far from uniform, showing anomalies and variations across it that can be explained by the dodecahedral shape, where magnetic flux lines naturally follow the edges and vertices of a dodecahedron. The distribution of climate zones and weather patterns across the planet can also be more comprehensively explained by a dodecahedral Earth. Different faces of the dodecahedron would experience distinct weather conditions, accounting for the diversity of climates observed on Earth. Furthermore, observations of solar and lunar patterns, including the patterns of day and night and the phases of the moon, offer additional support for this theory. The dodecahedral shape allows for a unique distribution of sunlight and shadows, affecting our daily experience and the lunar cycle. In addition to these factors, the alignment of tectonic plate boundaries presents another compelling piece of evidence. The Earth's crust is divided into plates, and the way they interact can be better explained by the dodecahedral model, with plate boundaries following the edges of the polyhedron. It is essential to acknowledge that the dodecahedral Earth theory is not merely a mathematical abstraction but is deeply rooted in empirical evidence. The enigmatic Bermuda Triangle, long associated with inexplicable disappearances and navigational disturbances, can be understood as a consequence of the Earth's dodecahedral nature, where the facets serve as conduits for unique energy phenomena. Furthermore, the phenomenon of ley lines, or the energetic pathways crisscrossing the Earth, is in perfect harmony with the dodecahedral geometry. These lines have been associated with heightened spiritual and paranormal activity, and their alignment with the Earth's vertices and edges lends additional credence to our theory. If you don't understand this you are delusional.

[@himeshmaheshwari1823]

You're right haha

[@beelao7305]

You're wrong

[@desertshield]

No U.

[@Chernybrothers]

You’re gay

[@legendarien1075]

Your*

[@Alin-t8j]

It's "you're"

[@apurvbose]

lol. Not factorial. good one.

[@LorenzAugust]

Deep work is easy, actually (please make one, such a hard skill to master)

[@RogueZealot]

Your other videos benefitted society but this one honestly I wish people wouldn't watch because it teaches people to be terrible to each other.

[@MarlyTati]

How to win with a counterargument

[@samstromberg5593]

There's actually a little-known 6th method - my personal favorite, but by far the hardest It doesn't really have a name but step one is to make a friend Yeah you can see why this is the hardest but wait it gets worse This friend has to be one of those friends who commonly gets the question "How can you be so smart and so stupid", someone who knows everything except the things he actually needs to know, someone who can't find his own house without a map but does every year celebrate the birthday of the 16th president of Namibia Okay start an argument with this friend Participate in this argument for 15 minutes, getting more and more frustrated as it goes on because he just can't see reason Realize you've both been arguing the same side for the entire time but both of you are so bad at talking that you had no idea