Winning the Cold Peace: A New Path for U.S.-China Relations

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UC San Diego School of Global Policy and Strategy

Күн бұрын

Fareed Zakaria, host of the renowned CNN program “Fareed Zakaria GPS,” will deliver the 2024 Susan Shirk Lecture on U.S.-China Relations as part of the UC San Diego China Forum.

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@azzevria8034 Ай бұрын

Fareed Zakaria is music to the ears of many Americans who NEED TO BELIEVE in America as THE great benign power and "THE responsible stake holder". In this lecture Zakaria painted exactly that - a sanitised rose-coloured self-portrait of peace loving America. Zakaria spoke of the "geopolitical insurance" other nations seek from the US. That's not the common understanding of purchasing insurance to protect oneself from unexpected damage. US "geopolitical insurance" is other nations seeking to protect themselves from America. That is, Washington guaranteeing not to undermine, assassinate, overthrow, bomb, destroy or invade them provided they submit to Washington's directions and US dominance. Otherwise, Zakaria's lecture is all Kumbaya, My Lord! Kumbaya!

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

One ask what year since 1945, had USA not had a war or conflict outside of Americas. It's become nature of war

@mrou871 Ай бұрын

In short he is just another apologist and sycophant that Indians are best at in Anglo sphere.

@michaeltse321 Ай бұрын

bs. no details about what are the usa complaints except China isnt letting usa win lol orwellian speak.. ...

@qijia4769 Ай бұрын

so true

@kaf711 Ай бұрын

the days where the US can bully other countries are gone . the rest of the world are sick of it

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

More important, those countries now have OPTION, proof show 120 countries trade & develop with China

@williamniggle7382 Ай бұрын

America may have the utmost geographical advantage on the planet, nevertheless, China has the longest continuous civilisation in the world, which is the source of the Chinese incomparable confidence. Fernand Braudel the French historian pointed out: " Civilisations are extraordinary creatures. Their longevity passes all understanding. Fabulously ancient, they live on in each of us and they will still live on after we have passed away."

@patbyrneme007 Ай бұрын

Zakaria is wrong on so many levels. China does have a economic model, a highly successful one, and one which is gaining adherents through the Belt and Road Initiative and the BRICS. The old GDP measure has become woefully distorted since the neoliberal financialisation of western economies. In reality, China is by far the largest economy in the world with 35% of global production, the main trading partner with over 120 countries, and using twice as much electricity as the US.

@linus631 Ай бұрын

Zakaria's idea of China is wrong on so many level. I used to watched Zakaria's show, every Sunday religiously 20 years ago for years, I stopped since the 2008 mtk crash. How far the mighty had fallen. I just love how these so call American intellectuals & experts always got so wrong about China. That's the exact reason why US will lose this Great Power Competition to China. China offer Peace & Properisty to countries round the world. America on the other hand offer Chaos, War & Destruction. Don't need to to be a famous CNN talkshow (Not news) host to see how it will end. 😂

@ed1003 Ай бұрын

He has an Indian brain, it is so-called “world leading thinker” . In fact, he is very shallow and hollow in China affairs, he’s better talk more about India rather than China.

@linus631 Ай бұрын

@@ed1003 True that

@samwong3375 Ай бұрын

mr. zakaria has to appeal to an audience not too far away from the market, so called current public opinion, in order to maintain his popularity, that's capitalism at work😅

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Very well said..

@sedatpir1905 Ай бұрын

China is not a new entrant into the power club.. Except the last couple of centuries, China has been the richest country for the last 2000 years

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

China’s Century of Humiliation 1839-1949 was it's own failure to "look inward" compare today, China PRC is a member of the majority of Trade Group worldwide. Not like USSR, China PRC send multi-millions of Chinese to the World to learn, develop, trade, understand all of mankind. Compare to yester years, 120 countries trade w/China

@johnlee-yo8jc Ай бұрын

When you are a gifted intellectual and chose to migrate to a foreign country instead of helping your own country, we know where are your priorities. Some people have subserviency ingrained in their DNA.

@MontyGumby Ай бұрын

"gifted intellectual" with the gift of gab

@xinweiwang8496 Ай бұрын

What’s most striking, among US intellectuals, is the lack of narrative for the common good for humanity. Given the privilege and achievements US has made in the past a couple decades, the absence of such mindset is literally a crime. On the other hand, there is no lack of such grand vision for humanity in China now. U.S. can not win the competition if it is obsessed with pushing others down.

@leechangming700 Ай бұрын

All the SEAN and otger countries want is for the US and China to work hand in hand to make the world a better place. US pls heads this call....

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Wishful thinking for ASEAN know this is a pipe dream. Even now, USA is trying to breakup ASEAN, example issue of Philippines, Singapore and Myanmar with China PRC. remember story "The Scorpion and the Frog" US (scorpion)

@philiplaw2072 Ай бұрын

Suggest a dialog between Zarkaria and Kishore Mahbubani.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Kishore Mahbubani is better aware of today Worldwide then this who call himself speaker

@kennethkong5484 Ай бұрын

He is not in Kishore’s class and depth of understanding the far east

@kennethkong5484 Ай бұрын

No comparison . Mahbubani by a country Mile

@alimi-yaoadam1667 20 күн бұрын

That will be great.

@alimi-yaoadam1667 20 күн бұрын

These comments are not fair, both are well versed in their respective areas. Kishore is great and Fareed is also great. Dialogue involving the two will be enlightening and intellectually uplifting for those who want to learn.

@stephenyang2844 Ай бұрын

Journalist Fareed has seen the world from the ground. Chinese strive for prosperity and harmony in the world; while US and other G7 countries only believe in zero-sum competition. Taiwan represent a remnant of western-Japanese colonialism that must be corrected with re-unification, making China whole again. It is up to US to accommodate Chiona‘s rise peacefully. Life will be more and more difficult if US can’t give up its hegemon psychology as China surpasses it economically then militarily in the coming decades as demonstrated centuries before.

@linus631 Ай бұрын

@robertng2398 Ай бұрын

Again a very biased view. China has the right to protect its own interests. Please be fair in your assessment.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

China’s Century of Humiliation 1839-1949 is remember by it's 1.5 Billions population.

@netterdrachen1687 Ай бұрын

Zakaria is completely wrong about the CCP not consulting Companies and intellectuals. They even consult companies and intellectuals from the USA like Ray Dalio! Has the US government ever done the same? Not that I know of! How could you win a competition if you don't even know your competitor?

@dzloki Ай бұрын

Yup also ironically in his example of corporate welfare to Intel, the CCP funds small startups they call little giants in key fields.

@CrackOpenWisdom Ай бұрын

Zakaria has a very shallow and skewed view of the world, especially of China and US. He is just wrong on every level.

@linus631 Ай бұрын

Zakaria's idea of China is wrong on so many level. I used to watched Zakaria's show, every Sunday religiously 20 years ago for years, I stopped in 2008. How far the mighty had fallen. I just love how these so call American intellectuals & experts always got so wrong about China. That's the exact reason why US will lose tothis Great Power Competition to China. China offer peace & properisty to countries round the world. America only the other hand offer Chaos, war & destruction. Don't need to to be a famous CNN talkshow (Not news) host to see how it will end.

@IwasUnknownUser Ай бұрын

He is basically Indian, not American.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

@@IwasUnknownUser That is NOT the point... He just fail to see today world, like Kishore Mahbubani

@tedwang6898 Ай бұрын

I don't understand why journalist Fareed Zakaria was invited to this lecture. He is plainly not up to the task.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Prof. Jeffery Sachs is a better speaker of today World issue.

@MontyGumby Ай бұрын

because "China experts" are so few and far between.

@Kingofthehill84 Ай бұрын

I assumed you know more about geopolitics than him? 😅😂

@MontyGumby Ай бұрын

@@Kingofthehill84 maybe not but he and I know more than u He’s just there because of fame

@Kingofthehill84 Ай бұрын

@@MontyGumby Go ahead explains to the whole world that you think you know about geopolitics 😆 🤣

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

38:00 “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War See how USA is dealing with Ukraine, Israel, Syria, Haiti, etc...

@leechangming700 Ай бұрын

Yup you have all the advantage ...but do remember the defeats in the korean and vietnam wars, and india border clashes with China in 1962. Instigate the philipines for the tribunal ended up 30 mils poorer and gianed nothing in return . Stop over estimating yourself and underestimate the chinese resolves when comes to national existence....

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@MontyGumby Ай бұрын

He's a prominent journalist of IMMIGRANT background of a major American network. Don't be expecting objective, balanced, expert-level analysis from him.

@twnetf Ай бұрын

All you have to do is to check your own government and society to know whether you will have another two hundred years of prosperity. Bashing China won’t help except helping these so called independent thinkers earning money by whispering comforting words to your ears.

@leechangming700 Ай бұрын

The essense of chinese model is simple:以民为本 literally meaning put the people interest at heart... 77 thousands in wages yet so many of homeless people ...

@linus631 Ай бұрын

@kennethkong5484 Ай бұрын

Let’s hear from an eastern intellectual like Kishore Mahbubani, who has often travelled to China and other eastern countries and America.

@kennethkong5484 Ай бұрын

Kishore Mahbubani once said that Kevin Rudd gets it wrong about China. Breaking out with speaking Chinese, during a presentation does not make Rudd an expert on China

@scottchu8065 Ай бұрын

India has a bad memory in 1962

@IwasUnknownUser Ай бұрын

He is basically Indian, not American.

@xinweiwang8496 Ай бұрын

Mr Zakaria certainly lacks intellectual honesty or is poorly informed on so many subjects on China.

@TarulWarlord Ай бұрын

Like what?

@WMLIEW-hu4nx Ай бұрын

Why does the speaker (and so many western academics + politicians) automatically assumes that SG is wholly within the western camp? The speaker has totally contradicted himself by asserting that many countries (especially in SE Asia, of which SG is part of)want good relationship with both China n US. They don't want to choose.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

They don't want to choose. Is the underling answer for ASEAN & the Global South. example: Australia's Defence Policy Explained - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZjWoZ6um9CGas0

@CorneyKAlone Ай бұрын

34:49 His slanted journalistic view assumes the United States as being the greatest economic power in the world in terms of market capitalization today. What a shallow and uninformed nonsense is that. Financialized casino is not the real economy. Industrial power and real commodity based economy are what sets losers and winners apart.

@TarulWarlord Ай бұрын

No that's nonsense. Market capitalisation doesn't happen out of thin air. The world believes in the US market and not the Chinese market because the US market is the most open and transparent one. The Chinese system and it's economy both are opaque and so businesses around the world are never going to trust China like they do with the USA. That trust in the transparent and open US market is also the reason why US dollar is the default currency of trade among all the countries of the world.

@CorneyKAlone Ай бұрын

@@TarulWarlord Transparent theft of other nation's assets....and calling it something else, then weaponizing the international bank messaging system have evaporated any semblance of trust that your so-called open market have. The world is no longer open and itching towards the lies and duplicitous behavior of the exceptional America. Welcome to the new era of multipolarity.

@CorneyKAlone Ай бұрын

@JK-ix8zi Ай бұрын

Good point that the US has 6x per capita GDP vs China but still chooses to contain China's rise. Geopolitics is a cruel game. This competition is existential for China not the US which is an autarchy.

@vjkpatel Ай бұрын

Why is it about infantile winning and losing Fareed? Surely it is obvious there is no such thing in a complex web of codependency and coexistence. What is there to win exactly? Click bait?

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

54:00 One should always remember, the United States of America is founded on the Federal Republic.

@unreliablenarrator6649 Ай бұрын

Ugh. If Zaharia, a popular generalist and pundit with scant knowledge of China if the best you can get for a keynote, perhaps it is time for a reset. I will not go on ad nausea, many of the criticisms I would make have already be elaborated in the comments, so I will just suggest future keynotes be livered by scholars with actual knowledge of China, fluent, literate and experienced in the subject. Sorry, missed opportunity here. Folks, multipolar world, accept it, study it, influence it.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Kishore Mahbubani is a better speaker on this subject.

@drewastolfi6840 Ай бұрын

@chriswong9158 when is his show, sounds like something I'd watch

@engtuantee2314 Ай бұрын

Who is he to say Xi’s policies are not working !

@acsdover Ай бұрын

32:27 .... of Singapore? Please ! Singapore is a closer ally of China as our population is 76% Chinese !!

@TarulWarlord Ай бұрын

That's point blank stupid.

@felipefrutoramirezsj5342 Ай бұрын

Can U.S. and China compete economically and technological without being inimical? "Cold peace" is not real peace. There cannot be real peace without goodwill. That is what is missing in U.S. attitude toward China.

@boonhongchan1853 Ай бұрын

BRICS to date has demonstrated that they are responsible stockholders, much more respectable than most International orgs. Where thence do they grow from here? Watch yes it will grow.

@IwasUnknownUser Ай бұрын

BRICS w/t China is nothing.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Much is model from ASEAN. Once US help develop ASEAN to go against China and yet today Trillions $$$ in trade yearly is made more between ASEAN & China then with USA of both party...

@jackc4551 25 күн бұрын

I used to find Fareed more objective especially over domestic policies many years ago. Sadly, Fareed has also fallen into the same trap of those China bashers who only know about Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Hong Kong. They know nothing about the history of China and its 3000 years and its various capitals. He has discredited his past speeches as he now utter falsehoods about world politics, even European, and Chinese. USA has caused the Rest to detest it because of its past record of cruel sanctions, weaponising of dollars and regime change. Now that the Global South sees the high contrast of China's non interference support of their economy through BRI, they quickly form a non military alliance of BRICS which does not threaten security like that of Aukus etc. Fareed had not counted the opioid problems , the high incarceration of a very divided America that lives on a anarchy time bomb. A country with such moral degradation as to support the worst genocide in history. All to enrich the military industrial complex but impoverish the ordinary people shorten their life span.

@kennethkong5484 Ай бұрын

Sometimes zakaria talks so uncertain

@tunneling-nanotubes Ай бұрын

Are you aware that there are a ludicrous number of ads playing on this video?

@Myway0107 Ай бұрын

Zakaria is dissappoiting! Every time he speaks about China, I wonder he understands China? Truly? He is simply representing MONEY or corporate interests behind him!

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

1:00:00 “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@KhyberPunk Ай бұрын

58:50 This is a pretty naive conclusion. We're making a similar mistake in assuming China is finished, as assuming Japan was going to take over the world.

@agusjusup Ай бұрын

Zakaria benar AS china kerja sama , AS jangan ngatur2 china, politik demokrasi buatan AS tidak bisa hancurkan china, china lebih besar dari AS..china bukan bolivia , nikaragua, venesuela, irak, libya, afghanistan, sudan,burkino faso, vietnam, ukraina ,..mereka mendekat ke china karena ulah AS .. taiwan itu china separatis ingin pisah ! , AS ingin kuasai kekayaan bumi rusia ! Setelah petro dolar ikat kaki timur tengah, Rusia bersatu dgn china , petro yuan muncul, takut china ke latin .. jelas AS sudah tua tidak akan menang dunia berubah ..pensiun saja AS .

@alcheung405 Ай бұрын

I'm rather disappointed after watching Fareed’s presentation. His views are no different from the American Exceptionalism view. His knowledge on most critical issues especially on China is shallow. His view on the Taiwan issue clearly shows he doesn't understand the historical and cultural aspects of the issue and the resolve of the 1.4 billion Chinese. From an international perspective, he should know all countries except a handful, recognize China as the sole legitimate representative of all China including Taiwan. His bit about cold peace vs cold war, that is, that US can't suddenly terminate trading with China, is something the US has to accept whether they like it or not!

@KhadijaSiddiqi-j6w 20 күн бұрын

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@IwasUnknownUser Ай бұрын

He is basically Indian, not American.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Kishore Mahbubani is a better speaker on this subject.

@engtuantee2314 Ай бұрын

People with 4:00 Plagiarism history also invited

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

34:00 Fareed Zakaria have never hear & seen Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom from 1837 to 1901 period.

@Wwmmgg95554 Ай бұрын

model has to fit reality.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Thanks to Goldman Sachs of New York in 2000, BRICS+ is a reality.

@harbinger6562 Ай бұрын

Hi be back ❤️🇨🇳🦾😇👋

@alexd5128 Ай бұрын

Excellent talk by Zakaria. For those who are boasting about China's exceptional growth from the late 80s till the first decade of the 2000s, they should dig deeper into the components of growth. It was mostly a massive real estate and infrastructure construction. This boom had its merit for a time since many buildings were dilapidated, and infrastructure was lacking. However, in the past decade, it has become apparent that building high-speed rail to nowhere or enough housing for 2 billion people when the population is shrinking is very UNHEALTHY GDP growth! They only contribute to GDP during the years when the projects are under construction and then become debt obligations and NO MORE GDP GROWTH once they are done. GDP formula doesn't differentiate money spent is dollars/RMBs already earned or borrowed! Too much of China's "growth" is based on borrowed money, and worse, when spending is for the sake of spending, it doesn't produce much economic benefit. Eg. if the borrowed money is spent on building a factory, it has the potential to repay the debt and increase productivity. But if it's spent on unoccupied apartment buildings, the investment becomes DEAD MONEY but you still owe the bank!

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

Today, China PRC is the World Banker, and United States of America is the Largest Debtor with $35 Trillions Debt. China PRC has more then 120 Countries Trading partners compare to USA likely to have 18 Countries. China has the Tiangong space station, when USA ISS is falling. Time, Rip Van Winkle wake up to the real World of today...

@Shengtu123 Ай бұрын

Impressive work by the 五毛黨, rushing to tone deaf attacks of Zakaria's "shallow" understanding of the PRC. Do you not realize this lecture is a call to restrain U.S. policy toward China? Have a little more sophistication in your propaganda.

@chriswong9158 Ай бұрын

How one own, we see cannot change it spot, Shengtu

@drewastolfi6840 Ай бұрын

For real. Super tone deaf, and a little bit foolish