WINOTA BROUGHT A FRIEND! Winota Stompy (Legacy Boros Initiative w Eomer, King of Rohan- Legacy MTG)

[@Korwinga]

So, with 24 mana sources in the deck, at 14 cards drawn with only 2 action cards (one of which was imprinted to the mox), that will occur .011% of the time. If we take into account your mulligan decision, leaving 20 mana sources in the 54 card deck and having 0 actions in the top 8 cards, that would happen .012% of the time. In other words, you were already slightly flooded, and the top 8 cards of your deck was just Noah's Ark level extra. EDIT: I just realized that I didn't count the lotus petals as a mana source, so the actual numbers are slightly better (.094% and .071% respectfully). Still absurdly unlucky though.

[@Eisenwulf666]

Every time Eomer did his thing, i smiled from ear to ear. Spicy and powerful

[@Jake_the_tank]

"The plan against combo is to kill your opponent." Ah yes, the ye olde classic strategy lol. Great video, happy to see Eomer in a decklist!

[@loganchristiansen564]

For the game 2 math: someone correct me if I'm wrong but, you had 28 mana sources in the deck. 4 in hand/play at the beginning and one on bottom, 54 cards in the deck starting with the first laelia trigger. In order to hit 8 mana sources in a row the math is: 23/54 * 22/53 * 21/52 * 20/51 * 19/50 * 18/49 * 17/48 * 16/47 totaling to: a 0.04% chance of happening... (It's rarer than getting hit by a bus while crossing the street)

[@gabrielgiordano4008]

but its the same feeling

[@Zauzzie]

Getting hit by a bus would probably hurt less than those draws.

[@joshdavis3743]

Well first off if they are 28 mana sources and 4 are out, that is 24/54, 23/53 etc. Then to do a more accurate count the 4 simian spirit guides for many of the draws would be blanks. I would imagine the two cast into the fires were blanks etc. etc.

[@PAPP0NE]

@@joshdavis3743 If you want the more specific calc then chance of hitting 0 of Rabblemaster, warboss, initiative creatures or winota in 8 cards is 2.26% fury and eomer can be hits too but you need specific mana sources to get them out, and i don't know how to calc that

[@joshdavis3743]

@@PAPP0NE sounds about right.

[@johnpauliuk1382]

The loss to Eagles of the North shall now follow you. A pain I can not imagine. On another note, fantastic league and I love watching this deck do its thing. Eomer with 5 counters was hot.

[@MrBurrito]

I primarily play Canadian Highlander, and I have been on the receiving end of Eomer beats and it's just not a fun time. Card is bonkers.

[@VivBrodock]

The winota deck's success is one of the reasons why I love legacy, just so much weird stuff can happen in this format

[@olafthemoose9413]

46:28 not sure if it's worth it but you could have cast your own treasure into the fire to grow your laelia in response to the first punishing fire to push 2 extra damage. And when your throne pops you could've presented lethal with the laelia (2 power base, 3 counters from throne, 1 counter from the attack trigger 1 counter from exiling your own artefact with cast into the fire)

[@nicklittle8399]

I find it funny how Cast Into the Fire, another LOTR card, is the perfect sideboard counter include to both Orcish Bowmasters *and* One Ring. It's like they knew these cards would be busted and were like, "let's make an answer that no one will think about at common and see how things play out," lol.

[@swampybwoy]

It’s cool how even the mulligan decisions and turn 1 sequencing in this deck are mini-puzzles outright

[@Wylade]

soooooo happy to see Eomer making waves! I've been playing him as my primary commander, and I've found he's a great mix of offensive power, card advantage, and targeted removal.

[@LucksackGames]

30:37 ok I died laughing. Sorry to see variance screw you.

[@alexprince19]

I just played your old version last night and had a blast, I’m glad there’s an updated version I can test out

[@Zauzzie]

Im a simple man, I see a video Winota and I click it.

[@ReyaadawnMTG]

I was super hyped on Eomer for Winota in EDH and nobody else seemed to be with me. I’ve never been disappointed to flip into it.

[@graefx]

From "would you like some mana in this trying time" to more loops through the undercity than I've ever seen, this league ran the gamut

[@JoeKell365]

game 3 round 2 you definitely should have been making land drops, especially those two Wasteland-proof basics that were in your hand most of the game. i'm not sure you would have won, but you would have been in a much better position for if you hit something relevant off a Laelia trigger or a top-deck

[@JacoDeltaco]

Yes if you can make the next 2 lands drops you probably should make your lands drop

[@Darchias]

bare minimum should have made the land drop on the turn you used the City to play rabblemaster. That way the next turn you would have had 3 mana, the same you had that turn. Yeah it was bad if you drew a four drop (so I understand why you did that) but I just think it would have been a better go.

[@usagi2988]

Boros isn't anywhere close to my, quote, "usual thing..." but whenever I watch your Winota videos (whether they 5-0 or not), I seem to inch closer & closer to running this IRL.

[@MemoryLaneWizard]

Great league. Can't wait for Riders of the Mark to come to MTGO - could be another spicy addition to this deck

[@saltefan5925]

... and people say Boros is a bad colour combination. False I say! Just look at how great it is at supporting blue and blue/green decks! On a serious note, Winota stompy is great fun

[@noahwick3217]

anyone saying that is living in a pre-initiative world lol

[@ThrabenUniversity]

The last two years or so Boros has been feasting!

[@kurtgrgelwrx8376]

that definitely feels like an EDH thing to me ^^

[@saltefan5925]

@@kurtgrgelwrx8376 Yep. It is mostly an EDH thing where you can't really trip someone up, do some one for one interaction and kill them before they get back on their feet. It's still the second worst pick of any colour combination in EDH IMO. The worst still being mono-white.

[@themaddollmaker]

Eomer is such a spicy touch for an already spicy deck. I love it

[@kevink.8809]

Love a good stompy league! Congrats on the 4-1!

[@SkeletonsYouControlHaveHaste]

Seeing boros in legacy makes me rock hard. I can't wait to start playing legacy and making videos 😊 you inspire the fuck out of me phil!!!

[@rhettk6263]

Name sticker goblin would be spicy as a way to go faster, AND it triggers winota on attack

[@CommonConnoisseurs]

This is smart 🧠

[@Melissanoma]

Hey Phil I have a weird request. During your intro with the big card on screen, could you lower it down some? the name and mana cost are covered up for me by the notice youtube adds about sponsored content. The bottom of the screen has the plYback bar though so I think centered on the left edge would work best. Or just leave it where it is. The card is visible the rest of the video anyway.

[@michaelvansickles]

Thank you for the video. This league just reinforced how disappointed I am in being able to take this list to eternal weekend.

[@nickyoung7508]

32:00 the game was giving you so many mana sources for that Eomer but you just wanted to keep your city of trairors.

[@FullBazaar]

First, thanks for the content ! Are Éowyn, Fearless Knight, or Greymond, Avacyn's Stalwart viables as another bullets maybeboard ?

[@2ntwins]

Do you think it might be worth playing anim pakal in this deck? i guess it might just be worse than rabble master but could theoretially generate more tokens per turn

[@TheThiccestChungus]

The thing is that you want to t1 token maker, t2 winota. And anim pakal doesn't make immediate turns and is also not a human himself

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I don't like the early game RW in addition to what others have said.

[@hoojchoons6168]

I was the 2nd opponent and clearly played phenomenally! For a guy who isn’t hot on eagles of the north, let’s look into the future where you 5-0 with my other prison list that has 4 Eagles of the North. I’m sure that video will be out shortly and the full power of that card will be seen by everyone!!!! My full comment keeps getting deleted so I sent it to there eternal glory podcast in hopes it gets read. I did get a trophy with both the list in this video and the other list you’ll see Phil play

[@dustinfurness2155]

Winota was too good for pioneer, but I didn’t see it much in modern, but then here it is again in legacy.

[@robertbanham8167]

Does the non human part of the deck have to goblins are there other options. Or is Goblins the most efficient choice?

[@Zauzzie]

The gobbos just are the best token generators, as they also give them haste and can be played on turn 1-2 usually

[@LucksackGames]

Can also be elves in a Naya build

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Goblins are just very efficient. If you take a look at a Winota cEDH deck, you'll see there are tons of options though.

[@littlegeek5159]

was waiting for the eomer draw at 27:40, to provide the something weird explanation spoilers below kill the flier and get back winota and suddenly the texture of the board state is completely reversed

[@joeaquilino19]

Great deck ❤Phil very very cool 😎

[@dingdongs5208]

Omnothing and Lieliea...love your content Phil, but god damn your pronunciations haha

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Ae is very frequently a diphthong pronounced as "eye."

[@danarmchuk6902]

Descent into madness 30:11

[@Frontline35]

With 32 mana sources, I think fable of the mirror breaker is better than Laelia.

[@markp7262]

I'm not sure why you scooped at the end of round 2. After the life gain, you would have been at 11. Cast the Seasoned Dungeoneer, preventing the Vanguard from attacking and taking the initiative. If they have no more removal in hand and whiff on the two explore triggers (and after witnessing your insane series of draws, it could happen), they hit you for 10. You win if you top deck anything you can imprint on Chrome Mox, between Dungeoneer attack and Eomer trigger. It's over in one turn cycle either way, so keep the trophy alive! 😁😁😁

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Leave timestamps for comments like this. I can't easily check the board state without them to reply.

[@markp7262]

Oops, sorry about that. It had been a long time since I had any questions about a play you made, I forgot. @ 32:20

[@ThrabenUniversity]

@@markp7262 they can just target a goblin token here to not lose the initiative. blacks on Rabble and Laelia. I'm at 10, and then I'm deterministically dead even with no successful dungeoneer trigger. Also, if I play Dungeoneer, I lose City of Traitors and can't then Eomer next turn.

[@markp7262]

@@ThrabenUniversity I thought I had seen that they targeted the Rabble with the Solitude, but after looking again, it wasn't the arrow from Solitude on it. If he targets the token, then I do see what you mean. But you gaining the initiative was always going to be from Dungeoneer cast, not combat. As for Eomer, you are correct, I miscounted somehow. Thank you very much for the explanation. Stupid Eagles decks. 😁😁😁

[@pedrohdalla]

Man that was the saddest 4-1 I've ever seen Don't throw the odds of that happening in a hypergeometric calculator if you want to preserve your mental health

[@42sporks5]

F for skipping Winota lines and focusing on the boring initiative ones lol

[@Reversespacehippie]

Obligatory algorithmic contribution

[@Grumpollion]

Is Eomer better than Blade Historian?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think it's not a better or worse so much as it is which ability do you want? Eomer offers removal and card draw in a flexible way, while Blade Historian offers the ability to hit harder. Blade Historian is much harder to actually cast though.

[@Zauzzie]

Blade never being castable if drawn is a bit rough

[@samuelmalone4630]

why was eomer coming into play with more +1+1 counters than the number of humans phil controlled?

[@zotmaster]

Throne of the Dead Three gives 3 +1/+1 counters to the creature you put onto the battlefield with it.

[@samuelmalone4630]

gosh darn, i was sitting here trying to figure out why that was possibly correct and i forgot the way in which it was being put in, thanks @@zotmaster

[@anastasiaparker9451]

Because it was being put into play by the Throne of the Dead Three ability, which also adds three +1/+1 counters.

[@CommonConnoisseurs]

Name Sticker Goblin WHEN

[@Hellcreature36]

Silence

[@jeffwren7815]

I will continue to say it forever, Winota was a mistake. Attacks trigger? Look at 6??? 6 per non human attacking??????? Crackpipe design for sure.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think it's too good for low power level environments (e.g. Standard), but its settled as weak in high-powered formats.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Well, not weak, but inconsistent.

[@jeffwren7815]

*cough* cEDH?

[@ubertuna1]

in round 2 when you flooded, you may have considered playing your lands down and saccing City of Traitors right away, you had 3 lands that next turn so you were guaranteed Winota mana, also a safer line knowing wasteland was a possibility. If they had more pressure on board I'd agree with your play making a topdeck 4 drop playable immediately, but it seemed like you automatically went for keeping City maybe without considering the option of playing your basics