Winspace T1500 Review - Verdict: BUY IT NOW

[@PatrickLino]

I very recently did a review on ENVE's top of the line SES wheels. Several people asked me to: "cOmPaRe tHoSe to mY wInSpAcE hYpErS." I made it clear despite ENVE being twice the price, the performance is not twice that of the Hypers. Any reasonable person can understand that. No cause for contention. Having tested several bike frames now, some of which are coming out of the same Chinese factories as bigger brands, a reasonable person can also deduce the performance similarities. And despite all of this...even if I said I've scientifically tested that a Winspace T1500 is better/equal to an SL7 or Madone, folks would still attempt to justify spending $6000-$12000 on a name brand bike anyway. We have the freedom to buy what we want. And all my frames get used, from a performance perspective, way more than the average cyclist puttering around town.

[@JordiMoll]

One of my favourite paint job of the chanel. Love the colours and the bike. Hope to ride one soon. All my best wishes to you and the people arround you. 💫

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Jordi! Have a great weekend!

[@NeutralGenericUser]

I love that your channel is getting so much traction lately. It's awesome that Winspace is supporting people like you! You are such an awesome person. Thank you for helping me with my headset issue earlier!

[@PatrickLino]

So many folks in the cycling community have helped me along the way. Gotta pay it forward!

[@lamontdouglas8695]

I enjoyed your review of the Winspace bike. Keep up the good work

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Lamont!

[@jediavatar]

I’m super happy that you got yourself such a sweet ride! Thanks for the review.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching John!

[@nochancecw]

That's a really nice paint design. I really think up and coming brands like winspace should do cool paint designs to showcase their brand more.

[@PatrickLino]

100% Agree

[@lloydy187]

Stunning bike! Love the paint job! Great wheels and build, Enjoy!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Lloyd!

[@chancebex5947]

Damn Patty, I need that exact setup for my Crit bike. Great review as always with the added sprinkling of your signature humor.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for popping in Chance!

[@tonyg3091]

Love the colourway! Good for Winspace to go a bit crazy with the airbrush. P.S. About the wheels-the only ones I'd change my Hypers 50 for are the Princeton 6560s. The Hypers are THAT good.

[@PatrickLino]

I am very EASILY recognized on this bike haha. And I would to try out some 6560s myself! Thanks for watching

[@Ian.Does.Fitness]

Definitely going to be buying one! Nice video, thanks! 🙏

[@PatrickLino]

Hopefully more sizes come back in stock soon!

[@thomasalison6188]

Great review, thanks Patrick!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@iang2868]

Patrick the bike looks fantastic another great!! Review 👍🏽

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Ian!

[@rndmtalk2300]

Wow, the paintjob is just so nice.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks! New for 2022.

[@rwillems0000]

Great vid as always. Full team kit skinsuit!

[@PatrickLino]

Skinsuit for the win!

[@dahurricane1718]

Nice and informative video will definitely subscribe thanks 🤙🏾

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks g!

[@PatrickLino]

Special thanks to the folks at Winspace for helping make Patty’s wildest dreams come true.

[@WinspaceBikes]

Keep up the good work! We've obviously been on GCN and we're grateful, but we seriously love "grass-roots, real cyclists" like yourself. The average person doesn't understand the amount of work that goes into a review like this. As well as the investment of equipment (cameras, groupsets， etc）and the time of editing, etc. So... definitely appreciate your work as always. Keep in touch and keep the advice coming. (We'll get rid of 'built tough', haha.)

[@swites]

Nice review! Great to hear they do such a quality product for the price point. I don't really need another bike, but I want a pure climbing frame when I can justify it. And because I'm a rimbrake fanboi(grew up on alloys- but yeah some of the braking on carbon wheels does suck!) the SLC 2 is definitely on the list.

[@PatrickLino]

My advice is buy one while Winspace still offers them.

[@swites]

@@PatrickLino Yeah prob good advice unfortunately :(

[@fantforever8709]

Great review - I’ve subscribed

[@jeremy1469]

That bike looks so good, you did a great build on it

[@PatrickLino]

Thank you!

[@BikesandMusic]

I own the same frame with Hypers but rim brake version and I can say that they really stand out of whole group! The frame is stiff and responsive, when you put the watts in - the bike just accelerates! Of course, every bike does but I've owned UK branded bike and it's far from being that responsive. Feels like half the watts just go away. Of course, this bike could be a bit too harsh for whole day rides but I guess it all adds up like road quality, elevation and stuff. For the price - I'd say it's one of the best options out there!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for the review! Rim brakes for life!

[@artix4635]

Gracias por compartir tus impresiones 👌

[@PatrickLino]

@@artix4635 Thank you!!!!

[@tonyg3091]

SL7 is also harsh for whole day rides. As is any out and out race bike. These are not built for comfort.

[@paulmorrison30]

Nice honest personal review ✊🏾

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Paul!

[@whitebeardcycles]

Good work. Probably the most comprehensive review I've seen of Winspace products.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks David!

[@Reggiebush777]

Those hubs sound ridiculous. Thanks for the great content.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Cody!!

[@zzz8705]

Thanks Patrick!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@niallb2265]

The build looks amazing, I've got a bike more similar to your velobuild. A tarmac sl6 open mould from a company called tantan but have been considering replacing the frame with something a little higher quality with better finishing. Love the paint job you chose as well

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching! What do you mean by "higher quality"?

[@niallb2265]

@@PatrickLino You were mentioning that the winspace seems like a better build in contrast to the velobuild yeah? I should have mentioned I'm considering either this frame or their SLC 2.0 as an upgrade in quality. My tantan has a few spots where the workmanship is meh when you look up close and was wondering if that's the case with the winspace at all?

[@PatrickLino]

@@niallb2265 Do you mean paint workmanship? Yeah the Winspace is flawless. In terms of carbon layup quality, that would probably require a carbon professional to scan the frame. If aesthetic is important then yup the Winspace is certainly going to be better!

[@niallb2265]

@@PatrickLino Sweet, thanks for the reply my man. Subscribed and looking forward to more builds

[@PatrickLino]

@@niallb2265 Check back tomorrow morning...

[@davidlenneberg4303]

Good review nice looking bike👍 Long and low hilarious lol

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@1sigmabikes]

Lmao @2:41 gotta watch out for those rocks, man. Also, you got O'Hare - when isn't there a plane overhead?

[@PatrickLino]

Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣

[@Pauleuh]

Hey Patrick for the pedals unsure if this model is serviceable but if they are you could apply some grease to the spindle and hopefully remove some of that spin!

[@PatrickLino]

Thank you!!

[@marcustan5868]

Great review

[@PatrickLino]

Thank you!

[@galenkehler]

Disc brake bikes have an inherent advantage for the designers because the seatstays don't have to be built to withstand the lateral forces from the brake caliper. You can engineer more flex into the seatstays to give comfort without affecting the torsional stiffness that you need for sprinting.

[@PatrickLino]

Keep posting this stuff all the time. We may need to do a video on frame design and engineering.

[@JDRVP]

Patrick, I too love the Aeolus saddle. I see you have the Bontrager Blendr mount attached with a light. I've read that the mount easily brakes. What is your experience with it and what light do you attached to it? BTW, very nice build!👍

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks. No issues with durability

[@rapidsk8]

great build

[@spandy8360]

Another great vid! Any plan to get and test a Seka Exceed?

[@PatrickLino]

I'm broke and on the verge of homelessness from building bikes. No plans for Seka unless they wanna work with me 🤣

[@DM-jh5rs]

is that the wednesday ride that starts at turin? I didn't know it started again! What time is the meetup?

[@PatrickLino]

Yup the WNR (Formally Turin) starts at 5:30pm. Weather has been all over the place so it's still kind of unofficial. The official start up will be in April and will move back to 6pm.

[@giantcerealbowl2120]

Yo Frozone be looking different lately LOL great review! Keep it up #swiggity

[@PatrickLino]

Mans said Frozone hahaha #swiggity

[@iang2868]

Patrick The absolute black Chairing you’re using 53th is it oval or round I noticed you had it on your a Sram crank arm was it straight forward to convert

[@PatrickLino]

Round 53. Oval isn’t for me lol

[@davewattimena3491]

Good review.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Dave!

[@WhoCares-wo2oc]

Lmao I wear speed suits too and I’m in your boat. But they are so much more comfortable compared to bibs and they just look cool

[@PatrickLino]

Speedsuits…so we can recover faster! 🤣

[@rickiwynne4785]

Hey mate , what is the light under the saddle.. it’s really neat ,

[@PatrickLino]

Bontrager ION 👍🏾

[@bikemirror6620]

That's a beauty

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks!

[@mokasusa]

Thanks for the review. I have 38mm hyoers. What is the weight of your bike?

[@PatrickLino]

7.6kg 👍🏾

[@louie7922]

Let's gooo

[@PatrickLino]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!

[@Jcauto-t4r]

Good vid brother, I’m getting this bike but they don’t have the frames yet, they told me by February. In another note where can I see and “maybe” buy the cycling kit you wearing ? Thanks

[@PatrickLino]

The kit is available for purchase when you join our local cycling club: xXx-Athletico Chicago

[@Jcauto-t4r]

@@PatrickLino From Sunny Florida to Windy Chicago ? I pass 🤗 Thanks

[@LosGuardian]

Hi man, love your reviews. If u had to keep one bike would u keep the winspace or the allez sprint?

[@PatrickLino]

I mentioned in the video that I'm selling my Allez Sprint 🤘🏾

[@soulsurfer8797]

How did you get the custom paint job? Does Windspace offer this to none company affiliated reviewers? I am looking to purchase a pair of Windspace bikes as rainy day/crit bike.

[@PatrickLino]

The color was released as a standard option beginning of 2022 on their website. Must be sold out. Who or what is an "company affiliated reviewer"? 🤣

[@averagerider92]

Finally bought one

[@PatrickLino]

Niiiiiiiice. What color?

[@averagerider92]

@@PatrickLino turbulent blue of course! :)

[@PatrickLino]

@@averagerider92 ❤❤❤

[@raphaelbartolome2265]

have u tried putting the hypers on the velobuild/dengfu?

[@PatrickLino]

I have but not long enough to really report anything specific yet.

[@1hotsizzle1]

I can completely understand the ENVE/ Hyper explanation. Even that the T1500 is good enough to crit race against some big brands. But I’m surprised by hearing that this bike is in a different category than a Dengfu/ Velobuild, by how much? I’m currently considering purchasing a VB168 to upgrade from a 6 year old aluminum frame.

[@PatrickLino]

Same principle applies. Is the Winspace (frameset alone) twice the performance of similar geometry Dengfu or VeloBuild frame? Probably not. We are talking about marginal gains here, but that comes with a price tag. And at some point those gains matter if you’re cycling competitively.

[@Spiritdiver]

Geometry is more important

[@artix4635]

In my region there are many climbs, I think that this Aero bike is not the most suitable but the SLC2.0 model would be a great option, my question is if at some point you will review this frame? Thanks.

[@PatrickLino]

No chance for SLC. It's flat in Chicago so aero is everything.

[@rugiOHHHH]

Just curious, what height are you and do you find that you have enough space on it to stretch out?

[@PatrickLino]

6 feet tall. I was able to mirror my pro bike fit measurements to this setup no problems.

[@Dustydayzz]

@@PatrickLino is this a 56 size

[@PatrickLino]

@@Dustydayzz size L

[@Spiritdiver]

I'm getting one to test out against my other 9 bikes.

[@PatrickLino]

Cool let me know how it goes

[@RadiantEclipseNomad]

With your Large size frame do you have toe overlap? I'm building up my Medium T1500 frame and I'm pretty certain with a race geometry I will have toe overlap.

[@PatrickLino]

No toe overlap for me 👍🏾

[@richardoktario515]

Can u describe more with detail about comparing allez sprint and winspace t1500? Thx for your respond.

[@PatrickLino]

The Allez Sprint is stiffer yet heavier, being that it's aluminium. This is can either be a good or bad thing depending on the rider. Your wheel choice will play a larger role in ride dynamics than the frame.

[@richardoktario515]

@@PatrickLino now my set up allez sprint disc 54 with ultegra and crank rotor, wheelset carbon 58mm is 8.5 kg. How much different weight if i chance to winspace t1500 frame with the same setup? Btw thx for the respond.

[@PatrickLino]

@@richardoktario515 probably 8kg

[@ceazy1861]

new subscriber here, nice content

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@nickthedane1]

How much Wind do you have on your rides, where as you said they did good even in strong crosswinds? Cant deside between 50 mm or 65 mm, But want to hear from you since you paid attention with wind Super Nice bike btw!

[@PatrickLino]

Chicago has wind EVERY single day. Every direction LoL. I weigh 74kg and crosswinds are no issue even on fast descents. If you weigh less than that I would recommend the 50s

[@nickthedane1]

@@PatrickLino Thanks! I Will Go with the 65s they look sweet

[@PatrickLino]

@@nickthedane1 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@pinoyxbox]

My next frame! and gonna slap some zipp 303s wheels on it.

[@PatrickLino]

DO IT! And send me a photo to my IG once it arrives!

[@danielpescetti4129]

Great video. Can you tell me what a conservative and aggressive maximum tire clearance is on the T1500 disc bike is? Can you throw on 32s? Does ANYONE know how the WS SLC 2.0 compares in respect to tire clearances? I do a lot of mixed riding and want to be able to do "all road" on my next build and can't find this info anywhere.

[@PatrickLino]

Max tire clearance on the T1500 is 28c

[@XCRiders]

What size frame? And how tall are you? Oh what color is your frame? It’s nice

[@PatrickLino]

Size large, 183cm, turbulent blue

[@joesantos7196]

Nice video bro. Where are winspace made?

[@PatrickLino]

Same place as 95% of bikes. China 🤣

[@joesantos7196]

@@PatrickLino true lol

[@DanTuber]

To really test the comfort of the frame, you should ride it with some crappy alu wheels.

[@PatrickLino]

🤔🤔

[@calrc123]

I’ve been trying to order my Deng fu r12 for a week now and no response. I think their factory is shut down due to Covid. Have you heard anything?

[@PatrickLino]

No clue.

[@jbrew44]

Yes they are locked down right now due to covid.

[@paulewannacrackr]

Sheeeesh. I have an allez sprint too. The t1500 is THAT good? 👀

[@PatrickLino]

More comfortable, just as responsive.

[@kalupa09]

WOW nice 👍 Thank for sharing 👍👍👍👍 God bless 🙏

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for the watching!

[@nolly485]

Hi, do these come in frame size 58?

[@PatrickLino]

Yup their Size XL (550) is equivalent to a 58, but best advice is to review their geometry chart.

[@raivisbukovskis9628]

Hi. Tell me how tall are you and whats your weight ? Thanks!

[@PatrickLino]

Weight is irrelevant for sizing a bike frame lol. I am 6 feet tall.

[@raivisbukovskis9628]

Im 6.2 feet. Should i go for frame size xl ?

[@PatrickLino]

@@raivisbukovskis9628 Double check with Winspace (and your current bike's geometry) but XL sounds correct. And if you have long arms like I do, you'll probably want the 125mm length integrated handlebars if you purchase one. Let me know what you decide!

[@raivisbukovskis9628]

@@PatrickLino i had bike 56, sold it-was a bit small for me. I think i do have long arms but some say that 125 handlebar lenght would be to tall for me. Some sugest 90, I dont know how to choose right one. I dont have bike curently.

[@PatrickLino]

@@raivisbukovskis9628 I cannot stress enough how important a professional bike fit. Having your measurements saved to transfer from each bike was a game changer.

[@okreidieh]

I stopped listening when you said I haven't ridden a madone or sl7 ... But I will say this bike is just as good 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@okreidieh]

But i do like the look of this thing

[@PatrickLino]

@@okreidiehI have ZERO credibility when it comes to bikes. None what so ever.

[@JServTennis]

What front and rear lights are you using?

[@PatrickLino]

Bontrager ION

[@JServTennis]

@@PatrickLino What mount did you use for the rear brake light. It looks like it attaches to the saddle rails? Thank you! Sorry to be a bother!

[@PatrickLino]

@@JServTennis no worries. The lights come with mounts, but the saddle mount is specific to Bontrager saddles

[@averagerider92]

Ugh I really wanted this frame but I already have 2 bikes, so ordered one to build another bike for the wife 😫

[@PatrickLino]

LoL 2 bikes is not enough.

[@GrouEEf]

The Winspace might be great, but it's gonna be a Seka for me. Cheaper yet premium.

[@PatrickLino]

You still failed to answer my question about how you personally have seen performance gains by following Dylan's training protocols...

[@GrouEEf]

@@PatrickLino actually I think I have 🤔. Had some good results from it while I actually did polarized training, but the thing is: I stopped doing it because it's not as fun. I don't really make gains atm, I'm stuck at 4w/kg. I think a general learning that I had was that we all ride way too fast too often. Zwift suggests my upper z2 to be at 200w, but the point where I should train for fat max is more like 150w. Quite the difference. It's just not as much fun, really 😂

[@PatrickLino]

@@GrouEEf Good stuff right there! I'm currently around 3.75w/kg. Last year I rode almost 11,000 miles with most of it being endurance and sadly not enough VO2. This year I'm focused on going down to about 7000 miles and train more top end. 150-175w Zone 2 for me is the way to go!

[@GrouEEf]

@@PatrickLino see, this is why I now care less about my results. I rode about 9k miles last year, and I just love it. I'm not gonna make it big anyway, so I might as well enjoy what I do and keep doing that. I wanna ride long, I wanna ride a lot, f*** the gains tbh.

[@KSIXRIDER]

My OCD is kicking in with that water bottle not fully seated.

[@PatrickLino]

I did it on purpose...for you.

[@ColeTrain_0]

I am building up my new race bike with this frame. I can't wait to get it I already love my hyper 50s that I have on my other bike.

[@PatrickLino]

Niiiice! What color are you ordering? And disc or rim brake??

[@ColeTrain_0]

@@PatrickLino the gunmetal

[@codywilliams5065]

What’s the frame size on this bike ?

[@PatrickLino]

L

[@bobbyt7444]

SL7 vs T1500. Just a thought for content.

[@PatrickLino]

If you have an SL7 to send me in a 54/56 I'll gladly review it!

[@pattencycling]

No more rim brakes sad

[@PatrickLino]

Gotta keep it moving!

[@firstnamelastname9013]

👏👏👍👍

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@ajlexinicole7]

Man, how can you compare this bike to other bikes that you haven't ridden for a comparison? I love your videos, but that one threw me off. And, as far as the Allez goes, keep it. Noodle around on it and do recovery rides on that sometime. I know, I know, I know....you have a few other bikes....SO! I have five and I am looking for number six....LOL

[@PatrickLino]

I very recently did a review on ENVE's top of the line SES wheels. Several people asked me to: "cOmPaRe tHoSe to mY wInSpAcE hYpErS." I made it clear despite ENVE being twice the price, the performance is not twice that of the Hypers. Any reasonable person can understand that. No cause for contention. Having tested several frames now, some of which are coming out of the same Chinese factories as bigger brands, a reasonable person can also deduce the performance similarities. And despite all of this...even if I said I've scientifically tested that a Winspace T1500 is better/equal to an SL7 or Madone, folks would still attempt to justify spending $6000-$12000 on a name brand bike anyway. We have the freedom to buy what we want. And all my frames get used, from a performance perspective, way more than the average cyclist puttering around town.

[@ajlexinicole7]

@@PatrickLino You know what, you are right. I’ll leave it to the pro’s. Keep making good videos.

[@galenkehler]

I probably would have bought one if they made a larger size 😁

[@PatrickLino]

These brands/factories need to start considering more 58 and 61 frames...

[@galenkehler]

@@PatrickLino I've had this discussion with a number of manufacturers, the size range in some bikes ends at medium because that's what they sell a lot of in South Asia. Once I get going I'll open more molds in the larger sizes

[@verbinnenben]

I have a Winspace gravel frame. Not to sure where all the hype is about. To much flex at BB, will break at downtube at some point.

[@PatrickLino]

Let me know when it breaks.

[@verbinnenben]

@@PatrickLino that's exactly what my lbs told me 🤣

[@verbinnenben]

@@PatrickLino not hating on Winspace tho. Just didn't expect my lbs to find major flaws in the build quality

[@verbinnenben]

@@PatrickLino the future will tell

[@tgc281]

I'm building mine right now with r7000 group set rim brake setup. just waiting on shifters. how tall are you Patrick ? I'm 5"11 and went with the medium frame.

[@PatrickLino]

Nice! I'm 6'0" with like a 6'4" wingspan. I need lots of reach lol

[@tgc281]

@@PatrickLino i see thanks.

[@swites]

@@PatrickLino Same here, but I'm 5ft11 and 6ft3 wingspan. Sorry, you prob mentioned it already, but what length stem you running on those bars btw?

[@PatrickLino]

@@swites 125mm!

[@tgc281]

@@PatrickLino just finished the bike. couldn’t wait so I took it around the neighborhood for about 20 minutes I loved it.

[@lordkambing810]

Don't believe this guy. His opinion will change in a few months time. "RiM BrAkEs FoR LiFe" LoLoLoLoLoL

[@PatrickLino]

I'm the biggest hypocrite you'll ever meet! 🤣

[@lordkambing810]

@@PatrickLino not really, but quite normal in the cycling world LoL

[@eliplaysbikes985]

They don’t have my size in stock😫😫

[@PatrickLino]

What color???

[@eliplaysbikes985]

@@PatrickLino Frame bought now i just have to build it 😞

[@PatrickLino]

@@eliplaysbikes985 holla when it's complete!

[@RemyBReel]

RIP Rim brakes 😔

[@PatrickLino]

Cant go back lol

[@henryponiovasquez]

You remind me of Frozo.

[@PatrickLino]

who dat?

[@henryponiovasquez]

Frozo from the incredibles, google it.

[@PatrickLino]

@@henryponiovasquez Never heard of it

[@timalwi]

Currently using the same frame and wheels. Its a great bike especially for the price but dont use this bike for recovery ride, it wont work!! This thing just wants to go fast.. full gas all the time 🤣.. always ending up on zone 5 and above when im using this bike 😂

[@PatrickLino]

As soon as you hear that "whooshing" sound from the wheels...you know what time it is 🤣

[@timalwi]

Yours had “whooshing” sound? mine didnt come with the sound 😂..

[@jediavatar]

@@PatrickLino OMG yeah… a set of rims like have this sound that means the afterburners are definitely on! (My Zipps definitely have that sound)

[@PatrickLino]

@@jediavatar (Whoosh whoosh) "Get out of my way!"

[@MrChinSiang]

dun trust this brand, they made faulty frame! I just received a crappy frameset with fork.

[@PatrickLino]

What happened?

[@chinsiangsin716]

@@PatrickLino Thanks for the comment and producing a good quality video! However, I’m totally unsatisfied along the journey since I convinced with all the reviews from your channel and decided to purchase frameset from local dealer. First, it was taking them 2months to arrive but I heard from them usually it takes only 2-3 weeks. I can feel that the dealer literally want to push for one size XS for stock clearance. I already told him many times I owned a Caad12 in size 48 (geo similar to size 47 for SLC 2.0) and size work for me too. The first shipment is scheduled at mid Feb but he claimed the manufacturer didn’t ship the size S and keep pushing me for size XS again. I insist. Finally, the frames has arrived last Friday, I go and pick it up. I immediately sent the frames to my mechanic for bike setup. They have identified several serious quality issues, which could lead to unsafe. So, they are refrain from setting up for me. First, there is no gap between fork and frames even we have inserted the bearing as provided. Each is touching with each other. Also the bearing has 45 degree angle which the fork is in L shape. It is not evenly taking the load and impact which may causing the crack. Next, the hole for place the bearing is much larger than the edge of the bearing. It is not fitted and it may causing the bearing moving around and damaging the frame. The same issue we found on the upper headset, the surface to hold the is not flat. There is a certificate tag signed and chop by the Winspace Ltd. How can such problems persisted and what are they QA dept doing??? I and really concern with other buyers. Please be cautious before you decide to buy anything from the company. Please refer to the link for the video and picture which would give you more solid convince about my statement. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qf9crxip0IfbN-5_bmW10LIZXjwbbfIp?usp=sharing

[@PatrickLino]

@@chinsiangsin716 Yikes I see what you're saying. What did Winspace directly inform you, in order to make the situation right?

[@michaelmulhall717]

40cm is 400mm 🙂

[@PatrickLino]

i dont believe you.

[@benjaminwolf9801]

The answer is 1:51 😄

[@PatrickLino]

I'm single handedly ruining the algorithm for my videos 🤣