Winspace T1500D : BUILDING A DREAM CHINESE SUPER BIKE

[@markcavandish1295]

Those two mechanics are real guys. Solid professionals

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yes!!

[@cosmonott1]

Great video! I'm considering between this Winspace T1500D & the Yoeleo R12 (also fully integrated aero cabling). Which of these 2 bikes is best for all out speed & racing? Thank you.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man! Thanks. Thd Yoeleo is not UCI certified, so if you want to get into racing, your local bike racing association won't allow you on the r12. The T1500D is UCI approved 🏁

[@cosmonott1]

Charles Ouimet That's really good to know. Thank you for your reply.

[@drouleau]

I'm curious how this frame compares "aerodynamically"/speed wise compared to bikes from more high end manufacturers with wind tunnel testing and numbers (or real-world testing against other bikes).

[@CharlesOuimet]

That would be a good video for next year, thanks!

[@brianmessemer2973]

Makes me want to go up and visit Montréal. The tourism bureau should be linking your videos on their site 😂

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahahah yes it's a beautiful city!

[@goldenretriever6261]

@@CharlesOuimet it is..but horrible roads.

[@peekeesh]

hey there, have a question. did you get a small frame or did you stick with the medium frame. im 5'7, 30" inseam and wanted to get a small frame but winspace doesn't have it instock. they have medium though so im thinking if medium will work fine for me. i ride a 52cm trek domane at the moment. thanks!

[@NeutralGenericUser]

I'm just about to buy the exact frame/wheels/handlebar! I'm also going to be building it with Ultegra Di2. Can't wait!

[@CharlesOuimet]

hell yess!!

[@NeutralGenericUser]

@@CharlesOuimet ty so much for your discount code! Can't wait to build it :D :D

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@NeutralGenericUser let's gooooo!!

[@bobbrown799]

Looks realy cool! Hello from Belarus⚪🔴⚪

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hell yes!

[@chandrasetiawan9308]

Hi, is this Winspace T1500 also good for climbing? 7.7kg with ultegra disc right? What is the wheelset? Thank you

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yes it's still really good! I've done an everest on a 16% climb on it. The wheels are the winspace HYPER

[@janatlmb2770]

Nice bike, building the bike is an overstatement .

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks!!

[@arbjful]

Beautiful frame color, thanks for posting

[@CharlesOuimet]

absolutely!! My pleasure man

[@michaell3134]

Montreal has some good bike shops!

[@CharlesOuimet]

IBIKE is the best shop!!!

[@michaell3134]

@@CharlesOuimet My bike has been making a clicking sound and two bike shops in NY have not been able to figure it out yet!

[@wowcherub]

There are multiple riders and teams racing on this frame, although its the same frame its not called Winspace on some of those others.

[@CharlesOuimet]

This T1500D frame/mold is unique to winspace! But i agree it does have a lot of similar points than a few other bikes

[@wowcherub]

@@CharlesOuimet Im not sure - it looks 100% the same as the Montecci Vegter being ridden by BetPlay in Colombia and butcherbox in thr US.

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@wowcherub Well the Winspace frame retails for 350$USD less (and 500$$USD less with my promo-code) than that bike from Montecci ;)

[@jusuflazami9580]

@@wowcherub YEPP CONFIRMED -- MONTECCHI FRAMES

[@lucassu9099]

I love those bike shop guys, so nice. Great videos, easy to watch haha. Greetings from Beijing, China.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man 👍🏽💯

[@groovedigga101]

Looks a fantastic bike

[@CharlesOuimet]

it is!!

[@paullmight42]

good looking bike

[@CharlesOuimet]

Absolutely!!

[@vietnguyen4312]

Thanks Charles, I look forward to hearing your review on the Hyper Wheels.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Noel, my pleasure! Subscribe to stay up to date, wheels review coming shortly ;)

[@shALKE]

You should mention that they sponsored you for this video ;)

[@CharlesOuimet]

Check out the review, my full partnership disclaimer is in there ;) I'm not sponsored!

[@TGShunai]

@@CharlesOuimet Then why do you have a personal discount code? Is that just from the goodness of your heart for a brand you have no connections with?

[@mrcreks]

also it seems that he asked the bike builder guys to give a positive review.. they aren't good at lying :/

[@CheeKiangTan]

u can get similar discount code just by browsing at the website. a service staff might just give u a discount code via chat or email.

[@Stoffendous]

@@mrcreks Noticed that too

[@Tchairdjian]

Hello again Charles... what brand/model is your bar tape? All the ones I have tried are to short... I can't get mine to go past the handlbar bends around the levers...

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Dick! I'm using lizard skin 3.5mm, the thicker one. I've never had issues with bar tape too short, do you roll it around the bar too tight on each roll?

[@Tchairdjian]

Charles Ouimet me too. But I find it too short. If I don’t roll it too tight, then gaps start showing after hard rides. Very frustrating.

[@borano2031]

@@Tchairdjian Are you wrapping in the correct direction? Rgr

[@Tchairdjian]

@@borano2031 hi there. I wrap it the way I’ve seen on several KZbin videos. I start at the and of the drop downs, I turn it from inside to the outside then I do a figure 8 around the hood (I know this is old fashioned but I need the hand support there...) and then for the top I switch direction and I wrap it from the front to the back to follow the twist of my wrist when I’m climbing and hang on to the bars. I’ve since increased the overlap to avoid gaps appearing after long rides... but it’s definitely not long enough to get too close to the stem. It barely goes around the bends. It’s a cheap think so I don’t understand why they can’t give us longer tape. Haha

[@RomanVedat]

Hi brother top Video, I am interested in buying the T1500D, I am 176cm tall want size do you recommend ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man!!! I am 170cm and I have the medium with 100mm stem. Maybe go medium with 110mm stem?

[@perrymckenna2261]

I just subscribed to your channel. Lots of neat reviews and being from Ottawa, it’s nice to see that whatever you talked about is available in Canada. The only comment I would pass on is your sound quality needs to be improved. Wishing success on your new channel.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you Perry! Yes I've improve the sound since that video in july, thanks for pointing it out

[@edofih]

Can you break down the costs of the bike? Where did you get the groupset and how much?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Found the Di2 on Merlin cycle from UK st around 1200US. A few hundred of accessories like a saddle, tires etc... frameset, wheels and bar retail around 1400-990-250usd with my code. So total build around 4000usd

[@edofih]

@@CharlesOuimet good info thanks

[@rlanger]

I have the 38mm clincher version of the Hypers and they are hands down the best wheels I've ever ridden. Amazing braking performance for the rim brake version, incredibly stiff and only 1290 grams with rim tape installed.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Absolutely!! Killer wheels for the price. Stay tuned for my reviews on the hyper wheels!

[@rlanger]

@@CharlesOuimet subscribed

[@vietnguyen4312]

Congratulations Robert and you saved yourself about a $1000. it looks like Hunt are also re-badging Hyper wheels www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/wheels/hunt-36-ud-carbon-spoke-wheelset

[@rickiwynne4785]

Can you get any seat post to fit the bike or does it have to be winspace? I can’t find a seat post on there website.. thanks 🙏

[@CharlesOuimet]

Seat post is propriatery so if you need to replace it, you have to contact Winspace directly!

[@imtiazchowdhury9903]

Hi Charles! You made me get the Winspace bug! I’m going to use your code to get one, but I wanted to know your opinion on something. I’m 5’7” and ride a 47 frame (Cervelo), but my toes overlap on the front wheel a bit (1/4 inch) with a size 8 US shoe, even with my cleat position as forward as possible. I have fell a couple of times because of it. 1) Do you have any issues with that on your Medium size frame? I’m at the point I want a larger frame (51) with a longer wheelbase and 165mm crank arm length so that I clear the wheel 100% (it’s not a problem at high speed, more a thing that happens when I’m almost at a stand still balancing with my feet at the 3 and 9 o’clock position and turning the wheel side to side to balancing). 2) what comes in the box when you buy a frame with disk brakes? What other parts of the bike are included? Your wife’s Blue pearlescent paint scheme is badass! When I get mine, if I like it, I plan on getting my wife one as well! Thanks for your help...

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man Glad I helped with my video! If you are 5'7, a 47cm frame is WAY to small for you, no wonder your toes overlap this much. So yeah I have the medium, i'm 5,6 and wear 8US shoe but my cleats are all the way to the back ( heel side) because it gives me more power. On track stand or tight turns at 1km/h, it might rub a bit sometime, but never make me fall. Bottom bracket comes in the box with the frame and everything you might need, so either Di2 or mecanical cover for the frame, risers for the stem, etc.. Yes her paintjob is amazing!! she love it

[@imtiazchowdhury9903]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I saw on your unboxing video that you have a 470mm (47 cm frame), and your 5ft 6. I spoke to Charles at Winspace, they said the 510mm (51) would be too big for me, so I ended up ordering the 470mm. I don’t know, I hope it works out! 🤞

[@duncancycles]

Thank you

[@CharlesOuimet]

Anytime!

[@lijian713]

Nice video, Charles! At first I didn't know where you live until I saw the road in front of your house. Typical Montreal style crappy road! Hehe

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahahah yes we do have terrible roads here 😂😂😂

[@Jcauto-t4r]

Nice bike.

[@dgalvarez]

I had another discounts, but I choose yours and save 268USD. T1500 and hYPER 50mm is comming to my home in Spain!! :D Best regards from Spain

[@CharlesOuimet]

Boom!! Thank you man, you'll love the new bike 💯

[@dgalvarez]

@@CharlesOuimet I hope so. I want to install DI2 as you. I hope hide everything. Your CPU is installed in the handle? What seat do you have?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@dgalvarez Awesome! Yes I have the DI2 bar end junction box, it's the best way to go Di2 with the winspace. My saddle is the Pro Stealth

[@dgalvarez]

Hey Charles. From the happiness of yesterday to the sadness of today. WS contacted me after the order and payment and they said that my color selection (blue pearlescent) will be not soon avaliable. I can't believe it, it's my only favourite color. Do you know why this happened? What did you do to have the blue color? It's my favourite and I don't want to think about cancelling the payment :'(

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@dgalvarez Oh no!! The new 2021 paint jobs are coming soon ;) I've seen them and they are AWESOME. This is why the blue is not available anymore

[@lucasmiller6540]

Can I ask how much the entire bike cost once complete? Everything but labor, I suppose! Great stuff, man! I'm seriously considering the Winspace, so that's why I ask - talk soon!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man! It all depends on the component you go for! If you go rim and mechanical, maybe 3000$. If you go disk and di2, maybe 4500$!

[@lucasmiller6540]

@@CharlesOuimet, thanks for the reply! Appreciate the information.

[@stevensoon5634]

Hello, Im Malaysia, can u pls provide me a link to purchase this winspace frame?

[@CharlesOuimet]

www.winspace.cc use code ''charlesouimet10'' for 10% discount

[@lckpairsoft4221]

Awesome bike & wheels ;)

[@CharlesOuimet]

It's definitely a amazing one!!!

[@pixel__detox]

Nice color!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks!!

[@mrdopeshoes]

Bro, est tu québécois?? Let's go!! You have a new subscriber 😁

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahahah oui québecois, thx!!

[@teddy7822]

how did u buy this frame? from aliexpress? or ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

No directly from the Winspace.cc website!

[@audricwaegeneire8960]

I'm looking to buy this frame, which size did you buy? What's your height?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hell yes!! I'm 5'6 and I got the medium (470 cm)

[@lirushanpillay2229]

what size tires are you rocking bro?

[@CharlesOuimet]

26mm! from pirelli now

[@cliffordchaperon6795]

what are the butterfly wheels like in the wet ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

They are working perfectly!!

[@edpilling4955]

Fantastic looking bike!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you!!

[@cosmonott1]

Btw, if I may ask. How tall are you and what's the size of your Winspace T1500D & also your crank length? TQ.

[@CharlesOuimet]

I went one size up than usual big brands. I was a small with Cannondale and Cinelli, but now a medium with winspace! Look at the seat-post length! Also use my promo code in the video description for 10% off if you go with the Winspace 🙏🏻

[@cosmonott1]

Charles Ouimet Fabulous. Will look for your promo code!

[@averagerider92]

Do you notice any play in the headset near the handle bar?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Nope! Maybe your mechanic set it wrong 😅

[@averagerider92]

@@CharlesOuimet I'm the mechanic 😆

[@alextaylor7575]

Salut from Toronto Charles! What size did you get / what is your height? Merci!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Alex! I got the 470mm seatpost lenght (Medium size in their chart) and I'm 5'6''. With the 40mm105mm integrated stem and bar, it fits me perfectly

[@parisien89]

What saddle do you have on the bike? Looks great!

[@CharlesOuimet]

thanks dude! Pro stealth 140cm, the best one on the market!

[@sirdmayo]

@@CharlesOuimet please can you share, the group set and finishing kit and tires that you used? I'm looking to build mine! And what chain is that? Also where can I get a 54t/42t Crankset. With Love from Nigeria🇳🇬

[@markmurphy5678]

Hi Charles, what height are you? im trying to work out if i need a medium or large frame? I'm 178cm. Mark

[@CharlesOuimet]

Replied to you email!

[@Quivivravelo]

chaine mi française mi anglophone ,ça fait plaisir.

[@CharlesOuimet]

chaine anglaise par un francophone ;)

[@Quivivravelo]

@@CharlesOuimet la classe ,ça montre qu'on sait causer english :)

[@RadiantEclipseNomad]

What size is the handlebar and stem on this bike?

[@CharlesOuimet]

mine was 40x110

[@andriegilsson6623]

Do you know which bike brands they also produce?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Unfortunately, this information is not publicly available :(

[@tadhgoshaughnessy6612]

Hi lovely bike can u give full list of parts u used for the build .would like to build the same .thanks here in ireland🇮🇪

[@CharlesOuimet]

T1500 frame Hyper wheels Winspace integrated handlebar Ultegra Di2 hydraulic full groupset GP5000 tires Pro Stealth saddle 53-39 Ultegra crank 11-32 ultegra casette Favero assioma powermeter pedal wahoo element head unit LizardSkin thicc bartape That's pretty much it :)

[@tadhgoshaughnessy6612]

@@CharlesOuimet thank you so much .ill see u on more videos cheers.🇮🇪

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@tadhgoshaughnessy6612 anytime!!

[@sirdmayo]

@@CharlesOuimet what's the longest ride you have done on this bike? Also what would you advise for someone who loves doing long rides?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@sirdmayo 215km! I'd say it to do them gradually and increase speed slowly!

[@davidfinn9828]

Class 👍

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you David!!

[@XCRiders]

I get one but they don’t have a size chart on the website I’m not taking a chance

[@CharlesOuimet]

they do have a detailed size chart!

[@XCRiders]

@@CharlesOuimet I don’t see it

[@J88HNT]

How do you rate the PRO Stealth saddle?

[@CharlesOuimet]

10/10 wouldn't use anything else right now!

[@grosmorisse]

Salut Charles, super bike! Comment ça s'est passé avec les douanes, est-ce que tu as eu à payer des frais d'importation pour le frame et les roues?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Salut JF, yess merci!! J'adore le bike. Pour mon frame+roues+bar j'ai été taxé par les douanes 110$CAD et pour le frame seulement à ma blonde 80$CAD

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

Nice bike, what crankset, cassette and crank length u use?

[@CharlesOuimet]

11-28 on a 53-36 crank at 170mm!

[@gaborcsapo2772]

Hi there, saw your videos amazing info's you gave us. Please help me want one for me , I'm from Uk London. And I am amazed with this bike. And your review too amazing!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Gabor, I'm glad you liked the video. You won't be dissapointed if you get one!!!

[@michaeloluokun9488]

Have you gotten it yet? I'm in London too

[@gaborcsapo2772]

@@michaeloluokun9488 Hi Michael , had choice between winspace and specialized sprint with sram axs 12 speed not disc version. Was a budget choice and I'm happy with my new bike, hopefully will get in tuoch with winspace too in near future... hope.

[@4soundgroup58]

Really Good Job....

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you man!!

[@twistagrip1114]

Apparently can’t get complete bike in the states? Is this true?

[@CharlesOuimet]

frame and wheels only

[@rizkiabraham]

What is the bb size for shimano?

[@CharlesOuimet]

bb86 with shimano spindle

[@josephdoby6411]

How much does this bike cost and is it safe?

[@CharlesOuimet]

No it's 7.6km/17 pounds!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hell yes safe! I've been on the bike for almost 4000km and it still in perfect condition. This total build would be around 4000$ in Di2.

[@wuthemaurine735]

haha quand meme odd je viens de tomber sur ta video pi jai reconnu la shop des que jlai vue

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahah yes ibike la meilleure shop!

[@YUENFELIX1]

Can you help me with sizing

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey ! You can message winspace directly for sizing help. but i'm 5'6 and I got the medium with 110mm stem!

[@Boplakz.]

where can i buy this bike?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Directly on Winspace website with the promo code charlesouimet10 for 10% discount!

[@mattpradipta7775]

Hi i want to buy this bike, im 176cm is size M fit to me ? how tall are you in cm thanks

[@CharlesOuimet]

I'm 170cm and I have the M (470cm seatpost) with a 100mm stem and fits perfectly :) So you can go between 100 and 110mm stem

[@Jcauto-t4r]

Where is the 10% discount code ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

code ''charlesouimet10'' at checkout!

[@Jcauto-t4r]

@@CharlesOuimet thanks, now we need frames, I was told by Email that maybe in Feb they’ll have some.

[@GarlicJalapeno]

How much did it cost total?

[@CharlesOuimet]

ultegra di2 disc build around 4000USD, but if you go mecanical and rim, that can go as low as 3000usd

[@GarlicJalapeno]

Charles Ouimet what do you think it would cost if you bought a Western brand with similar specs? $1000 more?

[@benschuttenbeld]

@@GarlicJalapeno I bought a Canyon Ultimate 8.0 DI2 Aero for the same amount of money. In the same color.

[@edofih]

nice bike

[@CharlesOuimet]

thank you dude!

[@ZeeFrankensteel]

Pretty light wheelset too...will definately watch review of bike and wheel. Had seen this brand before and impressed with design, colors. Cool someone close by has one to ride and review.

[@ZeeFrankensteel]

Too bad que tu l'avais pas au beach party, hate de voir ca, surtout en action aux Lachines un jour.

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@ZeeFrankensteel ahah!! Yup definitely an amazing brand, well build and super nice bike. Good customer service to! Stay tuned for the review

[@attilavida2095]

What size?

[@CharlesOuimet]

I'm 5'6 and got the M (470cm seat tube)

[@anthonyibea4753]

hm is that fram set? pls notice me

[@CharlesOuimet]

1400USD with my promo code ''charlesouimet10'' directly on Winspace website!

[@anthonyibea4753]

thanks

[@sworks]

Salut c’est quoi le nom du bike shop

[@CharlesOuimet]

Vélo iBike coin rachel et de Lorimier!

[@sworks]

Charles Ouimet merci 👍

[@jaspreetsidhu5708]

How much did the bike end up costing you for everything? Sorry if don't want to get personal and answer.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man! The frame + wheels + bar end up at 1400 + 900 + 250 USD using my promo-code ''charlesouimet10'' at checkout. I got the full Di2 Ultegra groupset for around 1500usd

[@thomast1221]

@@CharlesOuimet do you have a link to the DI2 group set for 1.5k

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@thomast1221 it was from merlin cycles UK, but I think they raised the price now due to short stocks!

[@J88HNT]

How deep are your Hyper wheels? Bike looks stunning. I am sold that this will be my next bike. Already sent them a message!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey John, I got the 50mm. They are amazing. Glad to hear this will be your next bike, you won't be disappointed!! Don't forget to use my code charlesouimet10 for 10% off your order, I'll owe you a beer!

[@J88HNT]

Charles Ouimet 💯 will be using your code!

[@Sabhail_ar_Alba]

They don't give the final build price in this advert.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Not really an advert. Total build price will always depend on how the components you go for. This frame with all it's components can cost you between 3000 and 7000$ if you go rim or disc, mecanical or electronic, low-end or high end... this is why there is no fixed priced to announced in this video. See my Winspace Q&A video for my total build price

[@dantos1991]

The mechanic thought the bike was 11kg 😆

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahah little brain fart from him

[@Crurvid]

Cheekbonez😍

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahah ;p

[@m9d497]

I would choose seka exeed over the winspace

[@CharlesOuimet]

way more expensive!

[@m9d497]

@@CharlesOuimet tru lol , but i mean 2k eur frameset incl(bar, seat post) and 725g frame i think its more worth it than a tarmac sl7 lol

[@duncancycles]

What’s your discount code again?

[@CharlesOuimet]

''charlesouimet10'' for 10% off!

[@ScuuBdoo]

I've contacted these guys 3 times using their live chat on their website and nobody has replied. Ready to buy bike, wheels and bar if someone would just contact me back. 🤷‍♂️

[@CharlesOuimet]

Weird!! They are usually super on point with the response. Let me follow-up with my contact

[@WinspaceBikes]

Hey ScuuBdoooooooo. We're on the Live-chat Mon-Fri 0100-1000am GMT. If that doesn't work for you hit us up via an email. My colleague Ava is on top of her game. Hit her up at ava (at) winspace (dot) cc

[@CharlesOuimet]

What a great PR follow up 👆🏻

[@ScuuBdoo]

Thanks Charles and Joe. I received email this morning from Charles. 👍🏻

[@ScuuBdoo]

I'm sorry to say after 3 days I still have no reply from Ava. I've ordered frame, wheels and handlebar, a lot of money, so disappointed with communication so far.

[@lukestreet8473]

"It's based in China which is the home of all carbon, so you know its good." Well. Depends if its aliexpress or not.

[@CharlesOuimet]

I was refering to the city they are located, which is home of Specialized factory and many many more

[@basbooy]

3:05 Phuque

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahah

[@Godspeed961]

480? Why this frame now costs 1500?

[@CharlesOuimet]

under 1400$ with my code

[@shadytrane]

iBike😍

[@CharlesOuimet]

yes best bike shop!!

[@driliagor]

They knock off Wilier frame

[@CharlesOuimet]

Not really!

[@ninomalunhao3451]

Anyone here have an old road bike that hardly or doesn't use anymore? I would like everyone to know that I'm open for donations hehe. I always want to start road biking as a hobby and enjoy life as long as I'm still young... Btw I'm from Philippines and I'm 18 years old.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Good luck finding a bike!!

[@alexandrefichet5535]

2:05 t’es français ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

OUI MONSIEUR

[@bbqreunie984]

Excuse me, pardonnez moi, on 4:10 having a Hitler moustache.... one must be a stranger.

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahahah he's french, it's not a hitler moustache, just bad beard and bad lighting ahah

[@30nabster]

it looks like a Chinese copy of a copy mainstream new lightweight areo bikes.......Trek Emonda/Spec SL7

[@CharlesOuimet]

All high end bikes kinda look the same in the end.

[@a6o932]

Man there's something about the French language. Effing hate it.

[@CharlesOuimet]

LOL sorry buddy

[@CharlesOuimet]

At least is french canadian french, not european french lol

[@firstname7780]

lots of wrong information. Best EU bikes made in China are in Taiwan, where export rules permit the best in Japanese Toray carbon manufacturing . Two, go ask those cyclists au saguenay with warped Chinese wheels going downhill Dans Le Parc. now winspace seems good for frame (though not Taiwan Specialized good) but i would not trust them for seatposts or handlebars. or any mainland company. too many fakes..

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man. I have my full review about the frame coming shortly. But you don't seems to consider the price. A frame equivalent from Specialized, Trek, Giant are in the 3000-4000$ price range. The winspace comes at 1300$. And about the wheels, seat post and bar, I've been on the frame for more than 2000km riding heavily, pushing 1300w+ on the regular and everything is holding up as it's supposed to. They might have a bad reputation from cheap knock-off brands from ali-express, but winspace is a legit brand, 3 years full warranty, they cares about their customers and are looking to create a reputable brand outside of china! Anyways, have a good day :)

[@ooitzeyang]

Are you sure taiwan makes speciaized? Don't they outsource it to China a very long time ago and just have it assembled at Taiwan?

[@drawinjackson6324]

@@ooitzeyang Are you sure china makes specialized?

[@ooitzeyang]

@@drawinjackson6324 It's not my burden of proof as I'm not the one making claims at the first place.

[@drawinjackson6324]

@@ooitzeyang who did? where's that source of your claims? Hearsay from somebody else?

[@win4400]

Why you say chinese bike, chinese wheel, chinese bar instead of its brand name Winspace? Don't you know 95% of carbon bike are manufactured by chinese (China and Taiwan) ? You name it all A-Z brand are manufactured by chinese

[@CharlesOuimet]

Because it's a hook to watch the rest of the video. People still have bad perspective about chineese brands, but most of the bikes are made over there or taiwan these days

[@firstname7780]

Taiwan is not China, and why TSMC is moving semiconductor plants to the U.S. if it were China SMIC would not be 10 years behind... so no, dogmas or meridas made in Taiwan are not the same as those in india nor the mainland ..

[@ShannonSouthAfrica]

Until it snaps halfway during a ride....

[@CharlesOuimet]

7000km and still solid like day one. What bike do you ride? Sorry to tell you but it's probably made in the factory across the street from winspace 😁

[@ShannonSouthAfrica]

@@CharlesOuimet Lol. Probably....

[@paullogan8329]

chinese super bike.. LOL. sounds like a disaster to me

[@CharlesOuimet]

Well it rides as fast as any other super bike for 1/3 of the price ;)

[@paullogan8329]

@@CharlesOuimet cheap, but is it safe?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@paullogan8329 99% of the bike in the world is made in China or Taiwan. I'm sorry to tell you this but your bike is probably made in the factory across the street from winspace 😁 So yes, it's safe. This is not a low end quality 300$ frame from aliexpress

[@paullogan8329]

@@CharlesOuimet so the bike is as good as specialized tarmac sworks sl7 with 1/3 of the price?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@paullogan8329 probably not as good for comfort, but close enough that most cyclists wouldn't see the difference. Performance wise, it's again extremely close. I got 6500km on the Winspace and it still feel just like day one 💯