Marble Machine Inspired by Leonardo Da Vinci

[@Bbeaucha88]

Omg... The marble machine is going to be a marble machine again instead of a marble assembly line! I am excited again!

[@JohnSmith-cb6qx]

Please use a nicer wood though, make the ghost of Antonio Stradivari proud!

[@O-.-O]

Yeah, because you need only one video and it's done 😂

[@lemoneyesalt5513]

We were always excited, but I think it's clear that the essence of what makes this project so great has been understood better than ever

[@tzkelley]

I'll be excited if he ever actually builds something.

[@gaspode8]

@@tzkelleyDon’t think this will ever happen.

[@juakofz]

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

[@MasterCrander]

The most real comment. This journey after MM1 has never been about a finished, created machine. Doubts it ever will be.

[@jedinxf7]

lol

[@HolySerega]

@@MasterCrander gotta milk those patrons

[@Mr_Wh1]

So we are going backwards again? And now it is all paperclips and 3d model concepts.

[@Laci11280]

How is this so accurate?

[@reden666]

What I loved about MMX is the mix of wood and metal, it created such a nice visual and feel for the machine

[@angled8955]

this

[@Melkimund]

I agree! Also stability.

[@arnaupalencia85]

Yes, I feel like the MMX was a beautiful choice of materials

[@Andromeda_2211]

agreed 100% just plywood feels unfinished to me where as the MMX had a very finished charmed to it despite being a very rough and unfinished design quite often throughout the project

[@Alumyx]

It deserves a bit of brass and bronze to complete the steampunk effect!

[@dazley8021]

You should call it the Marble Machine 720, cus you went around the circle at least twice. 😁 Or better yet, the MMπ

[@shinrakishitani1079]

Wouldn't the equivalent be 4π though

[@billkeithchannel]

Martin can have a working copy of Atari's 720° in the lobby of the venues. It was a skateboarding video game which was the very first one to be created.

[@BillyLegendary]

MM 4πrad😅

[@moritzbaumgart6781]

​@shinrakishitani1079 MMπ with MM being roman numeral for 2000: Going around the circle a thousand times!

[@Nevir202]

MMπ²

[@redyau_]

You're really putting your very self out in front of us by showing your iteration. I'm so glad you do this despite quite a bit of negativity around going full circle. This needed to happen, and you might need to turn around again 360 degrees if something comes up, and that's fine. We regular folk never get to see an artist iterate and ditch ideas, so we aren't used to it. Thanks so much for persevering, that's the most inspiring thing to me about Wintergatan of all.

[@mescey5059]

Inspiring to see how something can be realised from so much exploration.

[@james-sargent]

so happy to see it come full circle to a "machine" not a massive stage-filling automata. Always felt a bit uneasy about the huge idea, can't wait for build videos :)

[@DevonLehmanJ]

This is huge. This is the best vision of MM3 to date, excellent work Martin!!

[@dranorter]

I’ll always love the look of MMX but this design is very cool.

[@osXcanada]

I agree!!

[@osXcanada]

A mix of steel, plastic, wood, whatever works best…no?

[@__RD14533]

He is never going to finish one. He will just endlessly milk money out of you people

[@sunspot478]

I'm sure he'll get through about 75% of this one, have another Elon epiphany, and then change his mind again ... Scrap that whole idea and then a couple months later present a new MM idea and start from scratch.

[@nathanblank3045]

The new machine design looks beautiful. One suggestion I would have is to add some color on the programming wheel, so from farther away, like from the seats during a concert, it's easier to see its movement in the windows of space in between the instruments.

[@billkeithchannel]

Programming wheel needs moved to be directly behind Martin so we can see it rotate towards him.

[@EaglePicking]

Good idea. Also: while we're doing circles, why not put the levers in circular patterns as well?

[@mkrepps]

@@EaglePicking Love the idea, and having the layout of the levers not in evenly spaced rows will make it easier for Martin to grab the right one more quickly. It’s why piano keys are not all the same. Imagine how much more difficult a keyboard would be to play if all the keys were the same and equally spaced.

[@Juttutin]

If the plastic note profile inserts were just colour coded by note length, that would give a blast of colour, but the pattern would reflect and be in sync with the music too.

[@ChrisM243]

Perhaps some UV paint so it glows on the stage with the right lamps.

[@BuddyCrotty]

The marble catch at the bottom should be one of those large flat funnels they always have at children's science museums. I think it would put the circle theme front and center, plus the chaos of marbles bouncing and colliding, then circling into the middle would be really mesmorizing.

[@EaglePicking]

Could be a cool idea, if you can make it from a material that is not too loud and that dampens the bounce. Something soft, but not too soft. The hole in the middle needs to be big enough to not clog.

[@targz_art]

The new machine design sound so much better, great work

[@KurtCollier]

This is ABSOLUTELY the correct sort of choices for this project. Make the best possible version of the thing you already made a couple of times. You don't need a box to do everything. You are building a mechanical member of your band that you can play in addition to the other instruments you play for the live show. You don't need to reinvent any kind of wheels here. just refine the already cool one you did. The refinement will look and sound better, and the tour/album cycle with it will be cool.

[@AntoDB]

I'm still impressed by how quickly we've been able to question and adapt! In just one year, what changes! It looks like we're on the right track this time!

[@anuthutantrum]

The never ending story, marble machine edition

[@_Everyone__]

ROFL!

[@kurekureci]

To be for self driving cars IS to be for the status quo. Its still cars.

[@valentinoneduhal5300]

And what do you suggest as an alternative?

[@mkfivesix]

@@valentinoneduhal5300 trains, trams, cycling, walking, subway, elevated rail, bus, all things that _could_ be implemented in a few decades or less* if people _wanted_ to but is met with a lot of political resistance. other places that used to be well on their way to where america is now have done it. no such thing as too far gone in terms of infrastructure, the real battle is convincing people to try. this varies by option. rail is a slower project in terms of really bringing it into its own, buses are much better served as a quick, temporary solution. we know people use these options when they're introduced, we know they're safer, we know they move more people, we know they do it cheaper.

[@chicken_person]

@@valentinoneduhal5300 public transportation?

[@epiphaner]

​@@valentinoneduhal5300oh boy, let me introduce you to this small channel called Not Just Bikes 😉

[@halfjack2758]

100% this, cars cause so many problems beyond just accidents and they would still be a huge issue even if we got self driving cars working perfectly every time

[@joaomrtins]

Tô me black paint metal, maple plywood and acrylic was just chef's kiss perfect.

[@LiBrian2]

I like the direction this new prototype is going. You intend on it being used with a band. This design doesn't overwhelm the band and take over most of their function - let someone in the band do the shaker when needed! I also like bringing back organic wood into the machine - so much warmer than just metal.

[@nielskorpel8860]

Good point: this is how you incorporate the shaker. The marble machine plays the marbles. The band adds the rest.

[@davemason6501]

Research is never a bad thing. You may not use your shaker, but someone else may. I've enjoyed your journey of discovery.

[@tzkelley]

At this rate he'll never use his marble machine, either.

[@nielskorpel8860]

The choice whether to include a shaker did not exist before the shaker was demonstrated to be viable.

[@Kero_Yue]

Seems like you've really started to focus more on your experience and journey with the machine. Really happy for you, and I hope you continue to find fun in the experimentation and implementation of your machine and music in the new year!

[@mikeciul8599]

I had a lot of mixed feelings about self-driving cars, but then I watched Not Just Bikes' video "How Self-Driving Cars will Destroy Cities (and what to do about it)" and I was really impressed with their argument. They used lessons from history to explain how we got where we are with car culture, and made some very convincing predictions about the consequences of prioritizing self-driving cars.

[@alveolate]

yea the issue isn't "staying the same", but "staying with cars". there are simply wayyyy too many of them and it's so bad in so many ways. we can progress much quicker by simply eliminating most cars from the road, and "moving on" to solutions that already exist and don't require excessive engineering. it's so clear that martin hasn't had much research into this at all.

[@0NBalfa0]

@@alveolate Driving cars or working with cars should be a hobby but not because of self driving cars but instead because most people won't need to buy or use a car much at all per year. I live in belgium and I dislike a lot of things about that country (from personal biases), but being in a bike and pedestrian friendly city with good public transport coverage, as well as having good train coverage is how cities of the future should look like. I don't want a future of no personality other than being "the future" of the literature in the 60s/70s where I cannot distinguish Manhatan from Warsaw. I want a future where local communities, where people can interact with each other.

[@xxportalxx.]

​@0NBalfa0 idk I think most of the opinions on cars are from ppl in metropolitan areas (which makes sense, considering that's where most of the ppl are to have opinions), the state I live in is 3 x the size of Belgium, but with less than 1.4 million ppl, everything is far too spread out to get anywhere without cars, most towns here don't even have grocery stores in biking range.

[@karlenter2380]

@@xxportalxx. And additionally to that there are countries where not everytime driving with the bike is fun because the sun is shining and no clouds on the sky.

[@alveolate]

@@xxportalxx. if it's a sparsely populated area, you won't ever have paralysing traffic jams that "require" self-driving cars to "solve". also, i did say remove _most of_ the cars, not all of them. clearly cars have their use, we just don't need to flood entire cities with cars, spend billions on infrastructure to support cars instead of humans, and end up choking on car exhaust while the climate overheats.

[@testing1567]

The shaker idea was cool, but I agree with you about removing it from the main machine. You could easily make the shaker a much smaller seperate machine that's on stage with you that's powered by an electric motor. The cool part about your machines is the visual mechanics of them, not that they are hand cranked or human powered.

[@staticrodent]

I wasn't quite sold on the current design of the machine in the last video. I thought it looked a little too tall, and too spread out. But after seeing this CAD model, I'm sold. That looks incredible! I can't wait to see it in concert! I loved the year-in-review of the work you've done! I really think this year has brought more progress on the project in a shorter time than I have seen in all the years I've been following.

[@mafucarlfam]

Gotta be honest that I was hesitant this year with the whole project, no longer watching all the videos even though I have been watching since the beginning (back when I was in high school, but now I am actually a few years into teaching high school haha!). With this video, I am really happy to see the attitude and general approach you are taking. I have no right to say I am proud of you, but I have a sense of gratitude and pride in watching you grow in your design process and personal self over the years. Thanks for everything Martin! Happy Holidays!! BTW: Moon and Star is still to this day one of my favorite songs. It really just gets me on a different emotional level. Thanks again! - Matt :)

[@Marconkols]

5:13 bro re-invented marble machine again

[@croutiflex953]

My problem with self driving cars is that they are still cars. Same thing with electric cars, it only solves one small part of the problem. If we apply actual design requirements to transportation, i'm pretty sure we'd end up with something radically different from cars :D

[@douglascaskey7302]

For sure.. what we should be working on is transporters so we can beam anywhere. 🤭

[@InventorZahran]

Electric cars aren't even that good at being cars. They take a long time to recharge, have limited range, and tend to weigh a lot more than conventional autos (meaning more wear and tear on the road surface).

[@StuffandThings_]

@@InventorZahran Not to mention the environmental travesty of nickel mining and ewaste

[@YourSweatyUncle]

@@InventorZahran and for every electric car there are 5000 tuktuks in the world.

[@ProtoHere]

trains!

[@bcgcgcg]

Marble machine retrieved it's soul !!! Crazy good and encouraging video, Merry Christmas !

[@armandocamero]

we all know by now that Martin is just milking the cow as much as possible. Enjoying the proce$$$$$$$ and sharing it with his Patreon$$$$$$

[@zanzlanz]

When you said Wayne replied to your video, I GASPED. That's incredible!!! Congratulations on the project being blessed by a legend!

[@wellshoot]

Just to echo what I’m seeing all over the comments, I LOVE this new “full circle” theme; A true ad fontus! This looks like a unique, thoughtful machine again and I am excited to see you work on it next year!

[@deathr1te]

Thank you Martin! I've enjoyed your work since the Detektivbyrån days, and it’s incredible to see how far you’ve come as a creator. Your dedication to the Marble Machine project is truly inspiring-an amazing testament to perseverance and creative vision. You show us all that with the right perspective and effort, even the most daunting projects can be brought to life. And, of course, when things don’t go as planned, there’s always the angle grinder to help reset the course! The new design for the updated Marble Machine feels like a perfect evolution-it captures the exciting spirit of the original while refining and expanding on it in a really thoughtful way. I don’t see your journey as going in circles but as following a Fibonacci Spiral: each iteration brings you closer to your goal, even if it feels like you're retracing steps. Every adjustment and insight adds up, inching you toward the balance between practical engineering and artistic vision. Can’t wait to see where the spiral leads next!

[@TrentonBlessWrestlemania489]

There was no limit to Leonardo’s genius. The man was very much ahead of his time. When it comes to this most recent design for MM3, it’s really giving the look of the Acoustic Curves Animusic video. I love it!

[@DrTheRich]

Although closer to Martin if you think about it. Loads of great ideas, rarely did he ever build something that actually works...

[@ChrisM243]

What a pity Leonardo had to destroy many of his research notes in fear of being persecuted by the church..

[@shadowsir]

People forget that the simplification iteration is actually usually the hardest step. Good job Martin!

[@anttiviitamaki6999]

I like it! Feels "back on track". Hopefully the project will proceed smoothly from now on - and we'll be able to see the band on the world tour! Have a relaxing Christmas!

[@crookedspin]

I'm a professional game designer and my reaction to how you spent the year is that it looks like a very effective pre-production phase! Hypothesizing ways to improve, doing experiments, doing technical explorations. Sometimes you don't understand what is important or effective in a design until you drift away from it. The key is to learn those lessons as quickly as possible.

[@Mario211DE]

I loved the wood and metal combo on MMX...

[@Vickett8]

incredible job on the marble machines, though I find I have to say that I do not think self driving cars are a likely solution, to me they simply seem to continue a wasteful system of transport with a handful of benefits under some circumstances but rarely a daily commute, so I think expanded public transport and more availability of bikes and other forms of non powered locomotion will probably be a better alternative in terms of resources, pollution, and footprint

[@InventorZahran]

Wintergatan released a song in 2013 called _Biking is Better,_ has Martin since forgotten that idea?

[@Vickett8]

@@InventorZahran I can't tell what another person thinks, but I think it's likely that he just considers cars as inevitable, and that self driving ones are an improvement, not sure it's necessarily contradictory

[@mp28461]

As a guy not from a city, implementing expanded public transport would not work. It's too inefficient for too few people out here, our government wouldn't pay for it. Cycling also wouldn't be a full solution because of distance, no-one wants to turn a 10 minute drive into a an hour long trip. I think advocating for good public transport is great, but it's a privilege being so close to things already - Self-driving cars probably have their place, and it isn't a crime for people to do things the way that's the best for them. For you guys it might be public transport, but for me at the moment, it's my car.

[@plinsf]

​@Vickett8you are correct

[@Oxtorayk]

​@@InventorZahranthe guy even forgot he's a musician, hes been building this thing for 10 years.

[@sojiro288]

I'm not against self driving cars, im against false advertising.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

Apple doesn't put a cupholder on their iPhone, but they also don't put a headphone jack, SD card slot, or (until recently) a USB port on their iPhone. Don't fool yourself into thinking that Apple's way of doing things is the "right" way to do things.

[@nielskorpel8860]

This. No fawning over the big names in futurism and design, but critical independent thought.

[@dogastus]

You shouldn't unlearn anything. Your path through this project has been ongoing learning experience. Use everything you have learnt to create the ultimate machine.

[@ocsaiviktor6322]

I Love this concept! MM is on the road again :D

[@nidhu595]

no matter what you do, i'm here for it!

[@AAPattrick]

This is HUGE personal growth. Well done! We're looking forward to fewer, 'better', videos this coming year. So glad you didn't give up. We think you're on the right track. Remember, 1st thoughts are just your knee jerk response to a situation. Think again! Go to and good luck. x

[@stillraven9415]

You can stabilize the plywood with vacuum resin impregnated wood. Basically it becomes plastic.

[@billkeithchannel]

If that is the stuff I am thinking of and used as floor boards on decking, that stuff is practically indestructible.

[@douglascaskey7302]

And also very heavy. Maybe Martin should use carbon fiber... he'd have the added benefit of several more years of channel content while he learns to work with it. 😂

[@stillraven9415]

@billkeithchannel i think it is called marine grade. Used in boat building

[@DrTheRich]

@@douglascaskey7302 Still less than steel...

[@bzqp2]

Good luck vacuum resin impregnating a 3m-wide plywood gear in your home workshop, lol.

[@MicheleeiRettili]

martin has gone full circle! YESSSSSSSSSSS the wooden machine is the best

[@Juggleflash]

Being against self driving cars isn't being for the status quo. There are other ways to improve the transportation of humans that reduce deaths and the effort a person has to move from one location to another. Namely proper public transportation, like buses and trains.

[@jonp8015]

The advancements in FSD for cars will also be applied to bus transportation. Trains have always been poorly suited for transporting people, but efficiency per mile always tempt a certain kind of person want to make it work.

[@InventorZahran]

⁠​⁠@@jonp8015You've clearly never seen a good railway system. Trains can be great at moving people, if they're implemented well (with high frequency, conveniently accessible stations, and minimal points of conflict with roads/traffic).

[@jonp8015]

@@InventorZahran They can be made to be serviceable, with far more effort than any other method. That doesn't make them great.

[@bennyboiii1196]

@@jonp8015 Vastly untrue. They are statistically the best at getting large amounts of people from point A to point B. Better than cars, better than planes, better than boats. Do your research. The problem with cars is the role they play within infrastructure. In transport, there's a fine balance between capacity, frequency, proximity and speed and timing reliability. Trains are very good at capacity, speed and timing. But modes of transport have places where they work, and places where they don't. Trains are very good at Intercity and large intra-city. This is because huge amounts of people require a commute between point A and B at high speeds, but are willing to plan around pickup and drop-off times as long as they are consistent. Inside the city, trams and subways are used at a higher frequency because more people might spontaneously need a faster mode of transport. Cars are very good at being there when you need them. But they have a capacity bottleneck and reliability issue. And it doesn't get solved by just adding more lanes, because then you just have bottlenecks at lights and near popular exits. Your roads are only as efficient as their LOWEST capacity, unlike trains, which scale capacity with vehicle size, rather than requiring an entire redesign of a road system to function more efficiently. Then you have bikes, which are HIGHER capacity than cars (because they are smaller) and while they are not as fast, they can be packed. This gives them a huge advantage in PROXIMITY. You can take bikes where cars can't go. This makes them especially useful in LOCAL settings, like from a train station to your destination. Cars don't fit in this mold. And that's because they are a jack of all trades, master of none. They try to fill every niche, but in doing so sacrifice in all areas. And people are PROVABLY worse off for it. They are more polluting, more dangerous, require more maintenance and construction effort, are more expensive (both for you and for the government), you risk arriving late or early due to unavoidable traffic circumstances, and they require massive amounts of unsustainable supporting infrastructure, which are terribly suited to certain geographies, like Spain, for example. Buses are NOT high capacity. The increase is marginal compared to trains. Hell, I've seen Plus 15 systems more efficient than bus networks. And those are just glorified pedestrian bridges. FSD won't change anything in a capitalist system. In order to get cars to be efficient, you basically need them all to sync up in some way. This would require massive datacenters controlling tons of cars, and they would have to be unified in some way, meaning that there would need to be an open protocol for inter-car communication, where all data is accessible to EVERY company with an FSD system, and where all FSD systems are basically the same. Call me crazy, but I don't think Mr. Musk is exactly keen on opening up his FSD software. And even then, not all cars are equipped with FSD and they won't be for a while. I just don't want to pay massive insurance and gas/electricity bills for the rest of my life man, FSD car or not.

[@DemsW]

Then you are simply against cars, self driving just happens to mitigate some of the problems but you still oppose ot

[@martindalgaard1060]

I bought and read “How big things get done” based on your recommendation, thank you btw. Lately you have been playing around and making make great discoveries, exactly how the book suggests. Not only does it help you get closer to your goal, but its also great content. Merry christmas and happy new year.

[@DaanWynen]

A good summary of self driving cars is how Martin is sitting in the Tesla, being overly excited that it changed lanes in traffic that's so dense his speed is less than half of mine on my bicycle. 😆

[@InventorZahran]

I too love speeding past traffic jams on my bike! That's why bike-based messengers stayed relevant for so long in big cities: they could get around faster than any other mode of transport in the dense urban fabric.

[@FJX2000_Productions]

Love that you’re finally understanding what makes this project fun and enjoyable both for yourself and for viewers. Been a long time subscriber and for the longest time I sat here banging my head against a wall out of frustration when you were getting lost in the weeds about “perfection” and became obsessive over the most minuscule details that to most viewers do not matter and would not change the listening experience of the end result. We just want to see a cool machine! And if a couple marbles fall on the floor, so what? I’m happy to hear that MM3 may actually be a possibility now that your view towards the project has shifted 🙏

[@agunther08]

The marble machine is incredible, but I got to confess what always fascinates me is your journey and growth as an engineer. Wow! You’re becoming the poster child for great engineering. The lessons you have shared with us are so valuable. Blessings.

[@gunnar4838]

I'm so excited the marble machine is returning to a design that is actually one machine and taking into account the aesthetics and art of it!

[@likestooplay]

One suggestion; if you want to optionally add things like the shaker I would add an interface where you can add modules to the crank shaft, kinda like you can add accessories to a kitchen aid! That way you can focus on building a marble machine now and if future songs demands things like a shaker or whatever, you can add that for that specific song!

[@InventorZahran]

Seeing various modules coupled to the machine and swapped between songs would add another element of visual interest, as well as illustrating how different mechanical instruments make different sounds.

[@Paul_Marek]

Always with you on this roller coaster journey - you're an inspiration no matter what twists and turns are encountered. Thank you!

[@grougrouhh1727]

I don't think the discussion about AI self driving car is about having less people killed but in the meanwhile i will be waiting for a humanoid AI marble machine builder to build the marble machine x there will be a lot less of marble on the floor. PS : trains are awesome safe and already self driving. Maybee we can get better public transport and people can drive as a hobby.

[@xymaryai8283]

yeah, opposing self driving cars can mean opening streets to other kinds of locomotion instead, trains, trams, bikes, and the right to use your own two feet to explore the world, get inspired, love life. safer streets does not necessarily mean safer cars, it can mean other things.

[@InventorZahran]

@@xymaryai8283Less cars (and slower cars) will always result in a safer street, with more space for buses and cyclists.

[@famitory]

@@xymaryai8283 i'll support self-driving cars when cars are consigned to the habitat they're actually suited for: out in the country. not shuffling people from suburb to city and back, which is the rightful job of reigonal trains and the subway.

[@geckoman1011]

Dumb city person that thinks the entire world is like their bubble

[@luke3792]

Agree there may also be other solutions, but surely less deaths in the meantime, while they uproot all existing road infrastructure, is a good thing? Also an AI marble machine may drop less marbles but I doubt it’ll be very inspiring Some things are better left to robots, and others to humans 🤷‍♂️

[@Fazoer]

I have been folowing your journey for years and seeing you make this wears tear around has been a joy! Thank you for sharing your personal progress. If its the journey and not the destination this project is already a succes! And i have no douth there is more to come.

[@charliewoodsman]

Looks good! Two questions ... How will mid-air marble collisions be avoided? How will we avoid a lot of noise from marbles landing after that big drop?

[@francescosirotti8178]

Both questions have the same answer: this is about ad revenue and parteon money, the real machine will never actually be built - so there will be no collisions nor noise.

[@wjdragon]

I predict there will be a full blown episode where he'll attempt to tackle that. Though I could've sworn we've been there before ...

[@InventorZahran]

I imagined the large funnel could be covered with a trampoline-like layer of stretchy fabric, so marbles landing in it don't bounce around or make too much noise.

[@seemonster77]

A trampoline would be a bad idea. But a soft foam layer may help..

[@JBMayton]

this content is always amazing. im just imagining Martin live on stage with all the camera angles on the beautiful Machine with all the smooth movement and happy music. I hope Martin makes it to Atlanta, GA so I can see this - w o n d e r f u l - man-machine duo!!!!!

[@uki8152]

i love this one so much and it feels like it could be played as part of an orchestra

[@xEternalSaltx]

Glad to see you back at it ❤

[@djgummikuh8895]

Big Thumbs up for eliminating the shaker, it went in the same direction like the rythm function of the MMX as in bloating the definition of the machine from "plays music with marbles" to "plays music with marbles, among other things" and all engineering-timing issues aside felt like a slippery slope. Looking forward to further progress now! Edit: Just thought about it a bit more and stuff like the shaker or the rythm machine would potentially make sense as "addon" instruments that you could maybe plug onto a timing output of the machine to synchronize them, but essentially be individual instruments controlled by your band mates.

[@Shilorius]

...or a completely different self playing music instrument. The only thing the marble machine needs on top, is some kind of output device or shaft to sync up the music of it with other self playing music instrumens Martin might build in the future. Imho, that way he can focus on the marble machine for now.. and if he gets it done, he can still follow his passion and build (and add self playing) instruments.

[@djgummikuh8895]

full ack, I definitely concur that these secondary instruments are addons and not relevant to the machine itself, I just wanted to sketch the idea of a compromise between having a pure-marble driven art pieca and the potential necessity of in-time percussion or similar in a modular fashion

[@mhenlopotter1612]

4:35 I'm glad you're finding ways to reduce complexity! A marble machine really doesn't need a shaker, but integrating it into a separate machine later on is a cool idea.

[@MatthewBerginGarage]

Use water filled flywheels to reduce weight for transport.

[@toamastar]

Hell yeah Martin! Great to see you recaptured the beauty of the original while making something new, unique and elegant! I really like this design and im happy to say it looks very do-able! A clear vision, and the knowledge, mindset and skillset that can achieve it, 2025 and Marble Machine is looking very bright! Cant wait to see your next video! :) Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and the entire community! :)

[@uNpOpuLArOpInION69]

Self driving cars just dont solve traffic issues. Busses and trains do!

[@garysmcdermott]

Thank you for brining us along on your trip through the wilderness, I am glad that you now see the destination and we are still invited

[@noshei21]

One thing to keep in mind with this design is that you introduce the possibility of marble collisions, especially if 2 notes that are near each other are played at the same time.

[@LarsBgildThomsen]

I have been watching your videos for years ever since the first marble machine. I have truly enjoyed your self-taught engineering based on experience. However, and I did write a comment on this back during your time in France (I think you called that Marble Machine X) that somewhere through the process you lost track of what made the first marble machine so amazing. The first one looked like it had been thrown together by a madman with bits and pieces lying around. It was wobbling, vibrating, looked very hard to operate and I am sure there were many marbles going flying off wherever they shouldn't - but none of that mattered - it was a truly magnificent machine and one amazing achievement. Your new idea sounds much much closer to the original and _that_ is fantastic! While from an engineering perspective, millisecond precision might be cool - well - a bloody electronic sequencer can do that with no problem at all. Having a wobbly pile of wooden sticks produce anything resembling music - well - that's the key. Exciting. Put the sheer madness back into the machine. As for material might I suggest only wood recovered from old Euro-pallets ;)

[@Dx_Ach]

here we go again

[@X22GJP]

I admire your tenacity to stick with it, and I’ve loved your music pretty much since the start. I look forward to the next album and hope to get to see you play live some day 😊 But..man, you go hot and cold like the wind and contradict your sentiments at multiple levels, going around and around in circles on individual parts, the project and its philosophies, and relative importance. If this is breaking out of that spiral and actually going to result in a build, that’s awesome, otherwise I’d take a break from it and focus on your music until the timing (pun intended!) is right. Hope you and yours have an awesome 2024 holiday season 😊☃️🎁

[@therustedmonkie4787]

YES! Bring back plywood! That was the coolest part about it. It's something any person can be like, I could probably make that. Much more immersive.

[@billkeithchannel]

Hannes: What are you doing? Martin: Making Coffee. Hannes: To stay awake while designing? Martin: No, staining birch plywood.

[@3Canibus]

This is such an amazing journey and will continue to ride this wave of knowledge and excitement with you and everyone else!

[@aswragentutasvreg3631]

One thing that's still on my mind is if you want a second marble to drop on the drum fast after the first one doesn't the time fluctuate due to the drum moving. You probably found this already out but I'm wondering.

[@xXQuick123Xx]

You have reeled a massive audience back with your rediscovery of the marble machine’s identity.

[@Craftix_Workshop]

This design looks absolutely beautiful!

[@emmanuelrobles8755]

Its amazing how your journey is one hundreds of us can relate to. Keep up the great work!

[@danielclausmeyer]

I am very much looking forward to your videos in 2025! Im very happy when a new one comes out, it does not matter how often.

[@joelbosshoss9029]

What a great compliment to receive. You have fun building your dreams and I assure you that we will enjoy them to.

[@BreakingBarriers2DIY]

Love the direction this is taking. “Am I supposed to park this thing myself like an animal?!” Crying laughing.

[@Vaderian88]

I first watch your Marble Machine and found it very interesting that you managed to pull it off. I don't watch every one of your videos but when I do i find the video fascinating to a degree I have learned something to my level of understanding. But this new Marble Machine will be, and I am going to quote it, "It will be of design as if Maestro Da Vinci made it himself" Can't wait to see it. And Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. P.S. I watch your Marble Machine at least once a week.

[@TuProk]

Being against self-driving cars is not being "for the status quo". Self driving cars are one solution (or even part of a solution) to a very complex problem of getting people from point A to point B. Individual cars, moving individual people is a very inefficient system. Even if the technology worked perfectly there are social and ecological problems with cars that might cause some to oppose this shift toward leaning into cars as a solution. The money and effort put into trying to make self-driving cars work is so much larger and with more backing than other transportation solutions. Not to say that self-driving cars can't be part of the solution, but often this "black and white" mindset of "if you're not with us, you're against us" ultimately hurts the landscape of transportation technology in the US (maybe worldwide). I will admit, the progress we've made is impressive, and it is likely safer than human drivers, but so are trains and busses and any number of other solutions.

[@TuProk]

This is one part of an otherwise great video, I hate that a small comment like this had to spoil an otherwise great experience and watch... Looking forward to what you make of the new marble machine (if you end up reading this)

[@Koooo4]

If anything being FOR self-driving cars is being for the status quo. The status quo of cars. Sadly Martin is still clouded by the massive boner he somehow has for Elon.

[@moerki970]

The Marble Maschine has a soul again. Please keep this design. And the wood/metal combination from materials sounds great.

[@RegebroRepairs]

Ok, you are back on track!

[@TenkoFoxx]

Much much better, have a good feeling about that concept

[@ksp-crafter5907]

The Animusic vibes are strong with this one!

[@valkyrie283]

Didn’t expect the sudden self-driving car ad at the end.

[@sperzieb00n]

ah, the marble machine... all journey, no destination yet

[@EaglePicking]

Happiness is found along the route. The destination is becoming more clear with every step.

[@backtoearth1983]

keeps the donations pouring in. must make up 90% of his income now

[@GregorDuckman]

This is clearly the best iteration. Go for it.

[@guitaresp13]

Glad to see chat was able to unionize and get the appropriate treatment for the industrial revolution and enter into a new renaissance.

[@n1knunya903]

Definitely getting there! You do realize that you could make the machine out of some light,strong composite and just make it look like wood, either through paint or wrap or some other techniques. Good luck, really looking forward to progress!

[@SolomonStewart-eg7zy]

Merry Christmas to you wintergaten

[@CatTaco]

it is a process, you have to learn what works while creating, i think it is inspiring and also art to draw on all history while building, the throughline is captivating and interesting, I am happy you are changing and being the bigger man by admitting what you found when looking introspectively, the courage is again inspiring. Keep it up :D thank you for the update. :D

[@NickCombs]

Self-driving cars is like the overly complicated designs you've discarded for your machine. It's far more difficult and ultimately less effective than the time-tested and simpler solution of restoring our abandoned rail systems.

[@mikeciul8599]

We already have the solution and we've had it for over a hundred years: design cities around people, not cars. Provide public transportation infrastructure for all. It took an enormous PR effort to make Americans "love their cars so much." We can turn it around.

[@simonvetter2420]

Thank you! His statement "being agains self-driving cars is being for the status quo" really rubbed me the wrong way

[@funkmedaddy]

Hell yeah trains beat everything, if you really can't make a train then we can have a bus, but pretending like self driving cars are the solution is solving the symptom not the problem

[@kartoffeltree4065]

Thank you, that is a very important point~

[@justindie7543]

@@simonvetter2420 It's like saying "being against diet soda is being for junk food". Everyone is so fixated on self-driving cars when the goal should be that cars in general are only a small component of our transportation diet.

[@dannyphillips15]

love the new direction! keep it up. Can't wait to see this come to life.

[@Goryus]

Everything is a circle, you say, but the platform you're standing on is a square! But seriously, huge improvement and great job.

[@minikretz1]

I think it's great you've explored lots of possible ways you could go and saw the pros and cons of each. I'm still loving the journey and every video!

[@__RD14533]

Beyond ironic that Leonardo da Vinci said, "art is never finished. It is merely abandon." Meanwhile this entire channel is a guy endlessly over engineering one instrument.

[@LlamaTheory]

Very satisfying hearing you finally talking like an engineer and talking about a final product and all of the factors that will affect it while you're still designing it. Don't fall into the trap of getting discouraged if this design isn't perfect - it won't be. But, with this approach you're going to be a lot closer to the final form in the first attempt. Good luck!

[@hunterra217]

I think your opinion on self driving does kind of reflect your perspective on a lot of things, including this project. The answer to distracted driving is public transportation, or better driving education, or a whole host of other things. Self driving already has lead to more deaths, with Teslas being the single most accident prone vehicle currently produced, and autonomous vehicles being at least twice as likely to be involved in an accident per capita than normal cars. The solutions you look for are ones which sound cool and interesting, instead of functional and pragmatic. I think it's important to constantly be challenging your own perspectives and being willing to accept the simpler, more elegant ones BEFORE the wild unique ones which WILL cause more headaches in the short and long term. It's maybe not as deep as that, but I feel like in a video where you discuss your willingness to dramatically restructure your learned behaviors, it's emblematic of a flaw you have, which is that you are driven by short term, fun and interesting ideas, and those capture you in a way that dedicated, process driven implementation clearly does not, at least not long term. I have been watching you since the very beginning of the MMX, and watched as you've done, undone, and redone every aspect of this project a dozen times, always looking for new, unique ways of doing things, like making your own bearings, or adding unnecessary steps during a design phase. Or even the very nature of your design requirements, seemingly changing with every upload, from creative and beautiful to functional and pragmatic from one iteration to the next. Every time you hunker down and do some good, process driven development, a few months go by and suddenly it's all scrapped in favor of the newest, most unique way you have seen to get something done. Don't let me be completely negative, I absolutely love watching this journey, and I love watching the amazing novel solutions to novel problems, and all the ways you and the community come together to try to make this dream happen. Sometimes, I just feel that the fundamental driver for this project isn't necessarily a dream to have a machine or an instrument, but to create some marvel of humanity. What you said about how the original felt scrappy, and just an act of pure creation was the truth, you seem maybe lost in the weeds of theoretics, with this vision of an impossible machine. I just wish the ideas that cling to you were the ones that allow for the machine to be made, not the ones that allow it to be the most interesting. I am not, by any means, a Martin hater, I think you have done and continue to do amazing, fascinating work, that has absolutely shaped my own creativity. It's just, I was practically a child when the marble machine was first built and I first was amazed by it, like you were for animusic, and now am a grown man, and to watch you struggle with the same cycle all these years lsyrt... I just want to see a future for this machine, not a future for these videos. I revel in the thought that this channel could some day post only music. I love you Martin

[@1veliay]

The king is back happy to see you

[@Alexandre.Moonwell]

the music at the end was nice, as always :) glad to see the project taking on a newer form, let's hope for the best !

[@nicholaswilshusen3387]

I am so exited for this coming year to see the progress of the design and start to see it come to life. This design has so much life in it and has its own personality like the first machine.

[@jesuis_roux2740]

Plywood for a machine that you plan to take on tours sounds like a bad idea

[@meneerkaat1638]

Easy to replace items on tour because of the cheap material and does not need expertise? 🤷

[@xymaryai8283]

yeah, the balance of wood and metal that the MMX had was the best way to go about it. for parts that need critical dimensional stability, metal is too good not to use. everything else is beautiful in wood.

[@zemodeus]

​@@meneerkaat1638 problem is manufacturing. You can't manufacture that on the fly.

[@testing1567]

He might be able to get away with it as long as he limits the "plywood gears" to just the large ring gear, similar to the MMX. I don't recall the MMX having backlash issues. Also, he should probably bring spare parts of all the plywood parts with him on tour.

[@EaglePicking]

There's plywood and there's plywood. Martin can get high quality plywood and he has the tools to CNC it.