Winwing Super Taurus Throttle & Startup, Combat & Takeoff Panels: After 9 Months

[@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU]

Thanks, my left ear enjoyed this, makes me feel like I was revisiting some of the oldest videos on YT.

[@Uselessnoobcow]

What a glorious experience for my left ear!

[@keironcornell9396]

I thought my headphones were bust!! Went to update firmware and everything!!

[@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU]

@@keironcornell9396 Normal people just push the cable in or open basically any other video :DD

[@bradrtorgersen_videos]

Old viewer here. As in, so old, the last flight sim I played was Sublogic's JET for the Commodore 64. All I can say is, holy sh*t! Flight sims (and flight sim controls) have come a long way since the 1980s! Damn.

[@ciwiyeet8216]

Yeah, they really have!

[@gr-skil]

They have come a LONG way since my days of F19 on the Amiga.... :)

[@cipherunknown_]

my left ear loved hearing this

[@lorre007]

That Taurus is the next on my wishlist! In a year I'll consider going to VR, glad to see you can still operate them "blindly"

[@Gunfreak19]

Bought the whole set myself after various early reviews and I love it. I'm still a noob pilot but now I can blame my equipment, I also play exclusively in VR

[@kenhelmers2603]

Thanks Skill :) Appreciate your time, effort and knowledge.

[@gooner72]

Thank you mate, very thorough and interesting......

[@ajwolf3633]

After flying the T-45 in msfs on a regular basis in vr it has me wanting to switch over to DCS (after I get a new headset so I can see detail at a distance). I've went from dreaming of having the best twin engine GA cockpit to one similar to the one you have. This change is for sure gonna hurt my bank account. Glad you published this today after me finding this hardware last night and falling in love.

[@wildbillkelso2083]

Well done Skil!! Very nice review.

[@gr-skil]

Cheers Kelso, I appreciate it.👍

[@albird87]

I’ve had my Orion now for over 2 months now and I’m super impressed with it. Worthy purchase! Haven’t had any issues with simapppro as you’ve described either. Also thanks to this, I didn’t realize you could have the app off and still use it in DCS!

[@grimreapers]

:)

[@BCSchmerker]

+GrimReapersAtomic *The WiNWiNG® Engine Quadrant Assembly looks bare minimum size for a Tomcat or Tomjammer 'pit,* as Grumman put the Flaps lever outboard, the manual Wing Sweep (with Plexiglas flip guard) inboard, of the dual throttles at the G-303 Pilot station, and most simpit engine-control modules don't put four big pots in a row.

[@Groundhog1471]

Hey cool vid! I like they way it shows ingame while using everything. Can't wait to use it too. Just waiting on my pc. Take care! ✌

[@FGCH03]

Love this Vid excellent set up, I would like to see the carrier landing with hud perspective.

[@lancesmith1925]

Great update..many thanks. Can you share how you've mounted the throttle base? I'm a bit leery of using the floating mounts not that anyone has said its an issue. BTW, nice 3 wire - OK Pass.

[@gr-skil]

Hi, thanks. I use a basic mounting box that I made out of MDF many years ago, it has been used for the TM Warthog, Winwing Orion and now the Super Taurus, (after some slight alterations for the difference in height).

[@mururoa7024]

Since you're using VR, did you find yourself flipping the wrong switches by accident, was there a learning curve, or did it all come quickly and naturally?

[@gr-skil]

That was my concern to start with, but it all becomes muscle memory surprisingly quickly. I use points of reference with all of the controls, such as the gear lever, hook lever and on the MFDs I have little velcro tabs stuck the the centre button in each row. These allow me to orientate my hand position so I can select the correct switch or button.

[@jimharrison405]

Skil, thanks for the video. A question, did you have Orion Joystick Base orginally? Why did you go to the Super Libra base? I they say that you can't use the joystick extension with the Orion base, but I am going to try it anyway. Did you do that and have it fail, hence you know how the Super Libra?

[@gr-skil]

Yes I have the Orion base. I was using it with the extension. I know it is not recommended, but didn't have any problems arise during the time I used it with one. I got the Super Libra base as it is designed for use with the extension and has changeable/adjustable cams and spring setups, (I'm hoping for WW to release centreless cams at some point). I still have my Orion bases, hoping to buy the F16 stick and throttle to mount to these, when they are released.

[@vf111sundowner]

I noticed you use the gear handle on the take off panel and the guarded switch on the Taurus base as points of reference. I am really looking into getting these controls, based on the review of you and your fellow Reapers, Quick question what type of pedals are you using? they are only in the initial set up shot and partially obscured.

[@gr-skil]

I use MFG Crosswinds. Really good pedals, highly recommend them.

[@charlie7mason]

I know this is a late response, but just in case someone else comes here wondering this... If is the MFG Crosswind. An excellent set of pedals.

[@gort8203]

I would be interested in how you manage to see and flip all these physical switches while lookin through VR goggles. You can't have any peripheral vision, so how distracting is that?

[@gr-skil]

You are correct, I have no view of my controls whatsoever. Using the controls in VR becomes muscle memory surprisingly quickly. I use points of reference with all of the controls, such as the gear lever, hook lever and on the MFDs I have little velcro tabs stuck the the centre button in each row. These allow me to orientate my hand position so I can select the correct switch or button.

[@gort8203]

@@gr-skil Wow, that sounds like a lot of commitment and practice. Sounds way too hard for me and I don't think I would enjoy it at all. I'm trying to decide between more physical hardware with head tracking versus VR with clickable cockpits, but I can't imagine successfully mixing the two the way you do. Impressive memory skills.

[@rubiconnn]

On the take off panel, what are those two silver lever looking things on each side? I've spent a while looking around and can't figure out if they are axis or are just some clamping mechanism to hold it in place or something.

[@gr-skil]

Aye, they are both axis controls.

[@FGCH03]

What was your experience with the feeling of the controls in the carrier landing, I mean compared with other controls.

[@gr-skil]

I suppose the biggest difference overall, compared to other controls, is longer travel distance in the throttle handles, giving you alot more precision control over your throttle input. Aslo having the friction that can be changed on the fly is great. I use the extension on the flight stick too, so that allows precision with that, without having to use curves in the controls setup.

[@melvinhunter5272]

@@gr-skil so with the extension you didnt have to put a curve on it in the settings

[@gr-skil]

@@melvinhunter5272 correct, using the extension I do not have to use any curves in my control settings.

[@MyUnclebob1974]

Great video, cheers. If you don't mind me asking, how much was that compete set up. Thanks

[@gr-skil]

I couldn't possibly answer that, my wife might see this!! 😬 Nah, looking at what I covered in this video, the throttle and panels, including the p+p and the import charge/duty, there wasn't much in the way of any change from £1k. 😳 As for the complete set up, I can't even begin to think how much money and time I have thrown at this hobby!!!

[@Groundhog1471]

Hello! I've been buying things from Winwing and Thrustmaster to use on a high end pc that should hopefully be finished any day now. Here is a list and the prices I've spent. I'm in the US and I believe everything includes all of the cost involved. Blackshark collective $499.80 Super Libra & F18 stick $530.90 Super Taurus $812.85 Take Off & Combat panel $367.90 Track IR Pro $203.50 Thrustmaster TPR Pedals $663.94 Thrustmaster Warthog $400 Thrustmaster F18 stick $429.95 Thrustmaster MFD 2 sets $193.48 My 1st real gaming pc XIDAX X-10 Motherboard MB/X570/GPROC MSI X570 GAMING PRO CARBON AC NON-SLI (INCLUDES DUAL BAND WIFI) Processor CPU/R9/5950X AMD RYZEN 9 5950X 16C/32T 4.9GHz Memory DDR4/D32G3600RG DDR4 3600MHZ G.SKILL TRIDENT Z NEO- 128GB (4x32GB) (128GB (4x32GB)) 2 Graphic cards GPU/RTX3090WB NVIDIA RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X WATERCOOLED Power Supply 1500W/1600 1500W TITANIUM POWER SUPPLY Capture card PCIE/CAP/4K60P Elgato 4K60 PRO MK2 Sound card SOUND/AE-9 Sound Blaster AE-9 Over $13k and I hope when it gets here it will actually do the job. I've built all my other pc's in the past and I just didn't care this time. I had saved money for years. After my wife became sick, from Kidney Cancer, and passed away last year. I just didn't care about much. I first saw Growling Sidewinder's channel and how explains the do this and don't do that. Then when to and not. So I decided to watch his stuff. I also looked for other videos and found the Grim Reapers stuff to be highly valued too. KZbin was always a place for me to find videos of things I like to play, but now the people I've met here are good people. I'm picky so I don't give out subs much, but these guys here man I gotta say I've a lot of laughs, and I've learned a bunch on a game I have never played....yet lol. I'm having my pc built to run DCS, and ArmA series of games. I've spent years downloading stuff for Operation Flashpoint Resistance....they changed the name (wasn't happy about it lol) I just can't wait to play those old games again, but DCS....I'll probably end up buying everything there is. I'm totally alone in this messed up world, and I'm gonna have just a lil fun before it's my turn to take a dirt nap. Anyhow, I think I've listed everything......I don't know. Almost everything is still packed away. If I missed something I'll post it too. Take care. ✌

[@Groundhog1471]

I did forget 1 thing...the Oculus Quest for VR $600. Sorry about that. ✌

[@undead8393]

I read a comment from a previous video where you said you would upload your control settings for these panels when you got them. Forgive me if I'm just blind and couldn't find such an existing file, but if you haven't made it yet would you consider uploading it? I'd like to use mine for more but the settings can be rather complicated for someone who isn't familiar with them. Thanks for your content!

[@karlhungus545]

Still good? I like to see reviews after the warranty is up (i.e. after one year in this case). Ridiculous how low the warranties are for such expensive equipment (I'm looking at you too Virpil and VKB). If they're so great, back it up with a proper warranty.

[@zaphodt3405]

A more serious question how many usb ports do you need for this set up?

[@grimreapers]

4 I think

[@mashedxpotats]

5 as shown. Stick, throttle, one for each panel. The panel on the throttle is a standalone with its own input

[@joanor71e48]

Hi grimreapers

[@grimreapers]

Hello

[@zaphodt3405]

Where do I get my Scottish accent with this throttle set up?

[@grimreapers]

That's extra...

[@CoffeeMatt10]

9:56 failure really is not an option 😬

[@bjrnchrstn]

Just get the Orion2 and save out on the start up panel which had 95% the same buttons. Also the super taurus has a lot of buttons you don't really use that intensive ingame.

[@cameronthomas4932]

Damn i wish i could afford this XD

[@Tigermoto]

💯

[@TheTrooperG]

Hi man, I have a question. How much import tax did you have to pay? Did you get stung when the gear turned up? I bought a t-shirt once from the states and got stung with a large percentage of the cost upon arrival.

[@BrotherBloat]

import tax is less than VAT on these items - still a substantial chunk on top of the purchase price.

[@grimreapers]

I didn't buy mine so not sure. Doesn't import tax vary depending on which country you are in?

[@TheTrooperG]

@@grimreapers Yeah it would depend. I'm in the UK to. I was wondering how much extra it would cost. I may purchase lol

[@gr-skil]

I'm not sure how they calculate the import duty, I ended up paying about the same duty for each delivery, of about £65, of couse that was on top of the p+p I had already paid.

[@frank0550]

what stick and base are you using?

[@grimreapers]

I use winwing super taurus/libra

[@esphilee]

How does it work with X-Plane?

[@HorizonTr3]

but why the mono audio

[@honeyspringshomestead1411]

Just canceled my virpil order after nearly 3 months of waiting. Gotta love shipping. Going to politely ask my wife to spend the $1,200.00 or so getting this setup. My only thing on my side is that it's on sale right now. Do you have any advice to help out?

[@grimreapers]

I think there is a widespread problem through all manufactures, they are all struggling to get the required silicon chips in. At moment I suggest just getting whtever you can get hold of.

[@seanocschannel9947]

I want it omg lol

[@thor-xr8vy]

what are your pc specs

[@grimreapers]

AMD5900 3080

[@JarppaGuru]

if game would look minium as flightsimworld last microsoft flight sim we promise. ops here we go again. give money

[@ricardoz5714]

Here in China, every simulation player is using Wingwing, or its Chinese name 成都造, which mean “made in ChengDu”

[@ricardoz5714]

@@Melkor54 To tell you the truth, CCP is the best gov in the world. Much better than yours. Do not brainwashed by your pathetic democrazy gov

[@ricardoz5714]

@@Melkor54 You are nothing but a crazy political troll. I'm talking about the Winwing, you tell the shit about CCP. Good keep your dream, time will prove who will takeover USA and EU

[@rubiconnn]

@@ricardoz5714 LOL both governments are shit. You are brainwashed if you thing the CCP or US Government is good.

[@ricardoz5714]

@@rubiconnn Of curse you can think what you want. But I've been in US for 6 years, according to my observation. CCP is much better than US gov. You are talking about brainwash. There is no braiwash for me, becuz all my opion is based on myselves observation. I never trust media.

[@ricardoz5714]

@@rubiconnn If you have never been in China for atleast 3 years, you have no right to say CCP is bad or good. Same logic for US

[@kietay6505]

how TF do youtubers constantly fuck up the sound to just one channel. NOTHING Records like that, you have to be manually going in and deleting one of the channels or SOMETHING before you upload it. I guess this is why they usually dont let people modify anything becvause half the time they make it worse

[@rodriquezivey2023]

Box 📦

[@mhsgamingpak3632]

Love from pakistan

[@rodriquezivey2023]

Box 📦 box 📦 boxes 📦 box 📦

[@CMDRFlyAuburn]

You were out of ordinance, you should have used your face!

[@gr-skil]

I know, I feel like I've let the squadron down, although i did have to show the controls for the carrier trap.... 🤣

[@jackieivey537]

Win wing hotas

[@pinkfloyd7572]

1rst!

[@Jdam5]

Hey mate I’ve got this one but my usb for switch board isn’t working but in manual it says there’s another power port, do you know which one they use

[@clutchmg3106]

Amen in regards to the Software! It's definitely the weak point for Winwing. I can't even get Simapp Pro to detect my Winwing products anymore! @winwingsimulator3591 PLEASE FIX!!