Wire a STORABLE POOL w/ an EQUIPOTENTIAL bonding grid

[@johnpeters8780]

Love your Videos. They are so informative. I use to work with my Dad who was an electrician and the biggest compliment I can pay you is you remind me of his attention to detail, safety and doing it right and not cut corners. Great Job. I can see you are master at your craft.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Mrcaffinebean]

Probably the best video on this topic. Very complete. Had no idea the service outlet and timer were requirements.

[@MrJujubean]

Great video. I had no idea all those different points of that pool system needed to be grounded

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Did you watch the video?

[@realitycheck74]

Great video! First time viewer of your channel. You appear to be a very detailed and professional contractor. Very informative and attention to detail! Respect.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

The Navy left that effect on me (attn to detail).

[@swervomatic]

Im getting ready to go quote an above ground pool job and this was a great refresher. Thanks a lot!

[@slappadabass3290]

Hey Ron. I’m being told that an above ground pool does not need to be bonded in 4 points if it has a vinyl liner. Is that true? Pool has metal walls but vinyl liner

[@josephmatta2753]

isn't a voltage drop for #12 wire for 100 feet underground plus from that Jbox to panel inside ?

[@jeffreylonigro1382]

Nice install, Sparky. Did you bury the #8 all the way around the pool? In our jurisdiction they want the ground bonded as well.

[@vince6829]

Thank you for sharing.

[@slappadabass3290]

Hey Ron! When doing the equipotential bond do you also have to hit one of the bolts that connects the wall together?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@slappadabass3290 of course!

[@slappadabass3290]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey Does that count as one of the four posts?

[@rlharmon1972]

Hey Ron, what do you do when all the parts are resin except for the side wall? Do you still need to run the bonding wire around the pool if there is nothing to connect it too?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

No.

[@suemoravec422]

This is very helpful, my question is my pool pump for my above ground pool will be more than 25' from my pool outside of a pre existing pool cage I can bond the pool but do I need to run the bonding wire to the pump if the pump is grounded at next to my electrical panel?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Yes, the #8 solid connects the metal frame of the pool and terminated at the pool pump lug beneath the motor b

[@21isAlliNeed]

Is there a difference between regular pool from sams club to those from the video that are actual big metal pools?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

If its metal its conductive it needs to be bonded. If its vinyl there's 0% chance of current flowing through it.

[@journeymusic]

Should I start at the skimmer first, make my four connections equally around the pool and end up at the pump or do I end up back at the skimmer? Thanks

[@20bluezl17]

Question regarding the bonding for the 4 points. If the above ground pool is a resin pool which nothing is metal. What exactly do you have bond besides the skimmer? Do you just bond the wall connection joint which is metal?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Exactly. Bonding doesn’t have to be complicated. If it can be energized than it has to be bonded.

[@20bluezl17]

Ok so only the wall bar connection, skimmer and pump. Does the #8 have to still go around the pool?

[@realitycheck74]

@@20bluezl17 if my interpretation or knowledge of pool bonding is correct, I would say to try and picture it like and underground force field or grid/perimeter that protects anything within the inside of the binding ring in essence. That’s why they are recommended to be 18-24 inches away from the pool. It’s like your standing on protected ground sorta. You can also make additional ring around you pump/filter setup for protection as long as it is all linked together. Just my opinion, not gospel or telling you what to do. Hope my explanation helps. Let me know. Thanks! Good luck!

[@BlakeStefanelli]

Are you making a complete circle around pool with bond wire or you starting at skimmer hitting the 4 points and ending at pump ? From there it uses equipment grounding conductor

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thanks!

[@MrKen59]

How many people install above ground pools and simply plug it in the wall? I had no idea about all the grounds required. Thank you.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Unfortunately, too many and it’s obviously very dangerous to mix water and electricity.

[@lopezoscari]

What brand of spade terminals do ypu use? I has been loking for the right ones that are listed. Very clever the lock receptacule and plug for the pump.

[@FixItWithMe]

If a pool heater has two lugs for connecting the 8 AWG copper wire to, if I was to connect a new saltwater generator, could I just connect it to the second empty lug on the heater? Or does it have to be the same lug that has the current copper wire that attaches the pump to the heater?? Thanks!!!

[@RagingRapids311]

Do you have to use schedule 80 PVC when coming up out of the ground, or do inspectors allow schedule 40?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@RagingRapids311 you have to ask yourself: is this subject to psychical damage?

[@RagingRapids311]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey weed whacker, lawnmower So yes?

[@garycunningham8478]

Does it have to be a straight continuous run or you can cut it when it goes Into lug?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

You can splice with listed devices rated for underground use.

[@johnduffy532]

Hi Ronnie, Great video! I may have missed the spec on the depth of the trench for the conduit?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

If the circuit is 120 volts and 20 amps or less, in conduit, and GFCI-protected, the minimum depth is 12" to the top of the conduit.

[@RagingRapids311]

Thought the cord from the motor couldn’t exceed 3ft? 680.21(A)(3)

[@slappadabass3290]

Does the pump have an on/off switch? If not how are they going to backwash without a disco on the post?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@slappadabass3290 the cord is the disconnect.

[@slappadabass3290]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey kind of a pain to backwash unplugging and plugging back in isn’t it? Especially a twist lock Not knocking your install but a WP toggle might be nice to add

[@lopezoscari]

Great video. One question about equipotencial bonding. Do you run the 8awg wire also to the pump? is this wire required to be conected t the ECG? love the video. Very well edited.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

The equipotential bonding grid terminates at the pump motor lug. From there it is bonded to the equipment grounding conductor.

[@VegasGuy1975]

Is there any reason the depth for the bonding wire can not be deeper than the mentioned 4” to 6”?

[@hanscloss4063]

great video

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@billjohnson7347]

Great video. Does code allow you to use UF cable in the conduit or must it be individual THHN conductors?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

GREAT question! Actually, UF wire is not permitted unless the equipment grounding is insulated. I've never seen any but I'm not saying it doesn't exist. The main requirement is the insulated equipment grounding conductor for pool circuits.

[@RagingRapids311]

And that the wire be THWN

[@thereefaholic]

Great video. Does the code “require” a 20 amp circuit? My pool has a 15 amp motor and plug

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Yes.

[@xavierxavier5847]

Question, are the easy connectors required on each conduit?

[@hippo-potamus]

How do you VERIFY you actually have equipotential voltage across all bonded components? 1) how do you test the main panel earth voltage as a reference point and 2) how do you subsequently verify all bonded structures read the same voltage ?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

The purpose of the equipotential bonding grid is to eliminate any voltage gradients around the pool. The grid is connected to the pool pumps equipment grounding conductor. This circuit is GFCI-protected. If as much as 6 milliamps of current flows on the equipotential bonding grid the GFCI circuit breaker will trip, thus saving someone's life if they happen to be in the swimming pool.

[@hippo-potamus]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey Ah. That makes sense. So basically just make sure all your bonding connections are solid and run the pool equipment off of a dedicated gfci protected circuit. Thanks for the informative reply. -Cheers mate.

[@jillserviss5848]

How do you or are you required to bind the wall of a wood pool

[@jillserviss5848]

Seriously do you need to bond an inground wood wall pool. If that wood gets wet it could potentially conduct electricity. I am guessing that you could bond the water through the skimmer

[@FixItWithMe]

Hi from Manalapan!!! :) Just came across your channel!! Love your videos!!! Can you make a video on bonding pool equipment?? I want to install a sacrificial zinc anode and bond it correctly. Thanks!!!! :)

[@Nahum17good]

I thought code is 18” minimum depth for pvc conduit

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@Nahum17good NEC Table 300.5

[@Nahum17good]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey column 4, I stand corrected, thank you.

[@jamalissa954]

Why no Timer?

[@Noteverleyschannel]

What was the gauge of the thwn wire?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

#12 AWG

[@gmann212]

Man that makes me nervous when you pull off the wall legs or covers like you called em. My wall legs or covers are directly holding up the liner and the pool. Mine also sit on a resin cup so there was no need to take them apart or anyway for that matter since the weight of the pool is holding it down. Great video tho! It was really informative

[@gmann212]

How is this a “storable pool”? A storable pool is typically a cheap soft sided pool not an above ground pool that you don’t take down every year

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

As defined by the NEC.

[@BlakeStefanelli]

Are you making a complete circle around pool with bond wire or you starting at skimmer hitting the 4 points and ending at pump ? From there it uses equipment grounding conductor

[@RagingRapids311]

I can’t fine the answer to this question. It’s either 1) pump, hit 4 posts, end at skimmer OR 2) pump, 4 posts, pump, then skimmer (this way you’re not going up and down to skimmer