Wire a Storable Swimming Pool | Wiring an Above Ground Swimming Pool

In this video you'll see how wiring for an above ground pool is accomplished. You'll also see how the equipotential bonding grid is terminated and the (5) points required by the code.
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Ron Pecina Jr. is a licensed electrician in the state of New Jersey.
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[@Galatians6Two]

As a Master Plumber, I have found very few Electricians with such excellent work standards and attention to detail. You have given me hope that there are still good guys out there. Enjoyed watching. -Lance The Plumber.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

I have a lot of respect for decent plumbers.

[@jamescollins8148]

I’ve been watch all of your videos. Your work ethic is admirable. I notice you always have a trash can near by, great idea! You may have to turn in your electrical card for being too neat! LOL Thanks for all of your videos!

[@SaraLNewman]

Really enjoyed your comprehensive video! 😊

[@svm2020]

When I get a pool, you will be the 1st person I'll reach out to!

[@chrisllang8055]

You Sir, Do Excellent, Quality Work !!! Loved the attention to detail.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thank you very much!

[@aerofart]

Installed with pride PLUS a weather report. Love it! That Brother label maker is great. I have one just like it.

[@stevencole7331]

Wow the days of just plugging into an existing outdoor receptacle for the pool pump is long gone .

[@jasonscoggins01]

Hey Brother Thank you So much for the help the other day. Jason US Navy Veteran retired

[@Deadbolt1776]

Started my own Electrical contractor last year in Wisconsin. Love you video's! Owner operators take so much pride in our work. Our name is everything. Thanks for the great content. Good to see someone actually doing code compliant install.

[@yon_s0l011]

Its been a while since ive been in the resi electrical field, fell into industrial maintenance afterwards. My family needs some pool work done an came here to refresh my mind lol but seeing seeing this vid reminded me of the 1st real Electrician I learned from as an apprentice and you sound just like him in everyway. Love the details an work u do 💪🏼

[@johnwalker890]

Good job Ron.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Hi, please note: The 5" (60") clearance rule for the trench to be away from the pool has been removed from the National Electric Code.

[@BigD63]

Great content. Lots of good info. I’m going to be doing a wiring project for a pool installation in the near future. Thanks from Chicago

[@realitycheck74]

Awesome video! Love your attention to detail and work ethic! Thanks!

[@andrewborkowicz5321]

Next time you go to do something like this. Instead of using concrete to mount your posts they sell fence post foam kits. It's a two-part expandable foam that sets up in a matter of minutes. Don't have to wait for concrete to dry or mixed concrete

[@johnmazzocchi7116]

Nice job Ron! Great work and thanks for the videos. It’s good to see neat work out there. All the best

[@frederickbowman4494]

Great video keep up the great work.

[@michaelleddy3701]

Always great work.

[@alexmott4469]

Nice job Ron, I've never seen anyone put those expansion couplings on the side of the house. It makes sense though because I see PVC all bent on buildings from the sun. Nice to see someone labeling the circuits for the next person. The only thing I did notice is the feeder wires inside the 3/4" conduit. I thought anything over 4 current carrying conductors needed to be derated so the wires should have been #10 in my own opinion. 310.15(B)(3)(a) It works- keep up the good work!!

[@toolsandtactics]

Yo! You Killed This Install Really Good Stuff GOOD JOB!!!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@toolsandtactics]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey it would be cool to do a live together pick your brain and nerd out on code! Lol what's your thoughts here, red brass to a pool light gets broken, obviously it should be re threaded and stubbed back up above 8 inches or water terminate in a listed pool light box blah blah ... wound you find it acceptable to: re thread it, attach a pvc female and change over to pvc but clamp a pipe clamp to the brass, and run a # 8 to the junction box with it? Thoughts Also for context the pool deck,belly steel and all the equipment light transformers, pumps heaters etc and all the other # 8s would all be properly bonded together I know it's not a common fix, but would it meet intent of the code?

[@iandrew6347]

I am new to your channel and watching from the U.K. great video Sir . When you was digging the trench to put your conduit in surely you could have used precast concrete cable cover tiles that would have given you protection against anyone going through the conduits as a electrician in the U.K. that is what I use and it’s good another for all the inspectors i come across . Great work you do 👍🏼

[@jhelectrician87]

Hey man I came across your video here and let me tell you how good and professional you did this work 👏 👌 I'm an electrician here in Massachusetts and this is a great video

[@scott3331]

What part of Mass?

[@jhelectrician87]

@@scott3331 Boston

[@garbo8962]

Was taught to always use cleaner on PVC and on the grounding of pool metal trough we always scraped off paint on at least or one side to make a better connection. Smart placing labels on top of 3 outdoor boxes because you know the supposedly heavy or forget if the NEC says extra heavy duty covers are required but we know they will never last the what 15 or so years of the pool.

[@seanstrickley3992]

Amazing

[@aerofart]

Cool subject, Ron. I enjoy the variety of jobs and topics you cover. That skimmer electrode seems like a failure point to me though. Eventually the pvc or whatever plastic the skimmer is made of will crack around the mounting screw, but I guess it will outlast the life of the pool. Also, when sinking those posts into the concrete base you might consider driving a short piece or two of rebar through the base for a more secure attachment. I’ve seen posts shrink from weathering and pull right out or become loose over time. Two pieces or more of rebar push-fitted into the post at 90-degrees would prevent that. But again, the pool probably would fail before the posts ever did.

[@WhenWillThenBeNow]

Great and informative video. Is the process the same for an in-ground pool?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Similar, but a lot more detailed. An inground pool would require bonding the rehabilitation bars if it were a concrete pool.

[@WhenWillThenBeNow]

Mine is steel wall. Doesn’t seem much different than above ground. What would you do different on an in-ground for this video?

[@EKBBQ2358]

Hey Ron nice clean work! Just wanted to ask about the ground wire you ran. I think I heard you said you ran 1 Green THHN wire through the conduit that you attached at the pull box on the side of the house to all the other bare ground wires? Then when the Green THHN wire got to your metal box out by the pool you joined that 1 wire to 4 different insulated ground wires that ran to each box and the timer?

[@juice9767]

Love this informative video.. thanks for sharing. Question thou, is the bonding wire still needed to go around the pool if the pool is a all plastic & nylon material? 🤔

[@ryancormack6934]

Excellent video, very helpful! If the pool is built near the house, could you have these mounted to the exterior house wall?

[@enriquegalvan837]

excelente explicación gracias por compartir

[@alphasaiyan5760]

Yes sir. I actually had a customer, just the other day actually, tell me not to worry about bonding around the pool because he wasn’t going to pay for that to be done because he said the materials cost was to high. I told him it’s a code requirement. He said to hell with the code. He also didn’t want a time clock installed either. He said he would just turn it off and on manually. He said all this after I had ran power to the pump location. It’s just a 120 volt pump and a led pool light. I did bond the pump to the equipment grounding conductor but I could not get him to pay for the materials to bond around the pool….So I just did it anyway. The only thing I didn’t do was install a time clock.

[@luislazogue8089]

Hey Ron, that trench should be 18” deep to the top of the conduit, the 12” with gfci protection is only for 120 volt circuits.

[@McFlyLow610]

Great video I was wondering about the timer box. Which wires did you use to power that?

[@Abovegroundpoolbuilder]

Great Video! thanks

[@winnieB40]

Love your explanation, very informative. Are you in ATL?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

New Jersey here.

[@sergiosolis662]

Hey Ron, I thought equipotential wasn't required for storable pools according to the NEC in Article 680? I would appreciate your help on this question that I have. Anyways, keep up the great work!

[@tkdtres]

Thank you for the videos. I'm hoping you can answer a question. I will be installing my above ground pool soon. currently there is power in my shed fed by 2 -20 amp breakers using 13/3. I'm wondering if I can wire my pool using the existing 13/3 in the shed since it is much closer to the pool . My motor is 10 amps and I have no heater.

[@tkdtres]

12/3*

[@slappadabass3290]

Where does the the run start for the bonding? At the first post? Ending at pump?

[@mcarroll598]

Nice video bud. How far was the panel from your j-box you mounted on the house? Couldn’t you run some flex or pipe inside and avoid splices. Just a thought. Do you use silicone wire nuts outside for moisture and corrosion? I always drill a 1/8” pilot hole in the bottom of bell boxes and outside j boxes never will have a problem with water getting out, if it finds a way in.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Only 360 degrees in bends for any conduit run. That’s why the box was installed.

[@mcarroll598]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey I understand why you installed the box. I thought you could just come out the back of the box with flex or conduit and not Romex, eliminate those joints. Just a thought bud. Thanks.

[@sidguerra]

Hi great video, my question is I have a aluminum wall pool and the rest is resin. Do I need to go right around pool? Also do I just bond to the wall joint bolts then skimmer, pump, heater, salt generator and finally to a grounding rod?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Forget the ground and don’t drive a ground rod. The equipotential bonding grid conductor gets terminated to a grounding lug found on the bottom of the pool pump motor.

[@clintbleskoski6287]

Thank you very helpful. Bug guy fills an oversized shirt better. Better than the plumbers crack

[@debbiemoran3709]

Hey electricalron, excellent video! On our installation the pool only has a steel wall. The top cap, bottom rail and vertical supports are all resin. Where the wall comes around to meet itself, it is joined with a row of nuts and bolts in a vertical pattern. I have been told that a lug attached to one of those bolts would be sufficient for bonding rather than 4 points around the pool. Do you concur? Everything else would be the same as your project with 8 awg copper wire going to the plate in the skimmer and to the lug on the pump motor as well as around the pool in the ground. Hoping to pass inspection! Your opinion would be much appreciated . Thanks brother, Terrence

[@scott3331]

The code does say 4 points....being a resin pool I'm going to say you have to look at the manufacturing specs. I'm saying this without referring to the code book...

[@debbiemoran3709]

@@scott3331 Thanks for the reply Scott. I'll check into that.

[@garycunningham8478]

That expansion pipe is required on the house with pipe going horizontal right? Only When coming out of house and then into ground they require it.

[@biznessgoose]

Hey ron great video, quick question. At the four points where you bonded, did you use self tapping screws into the framing? Or did you drill and tap and use a machine screw

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

NEC 250.8 lists 8 ways to do it. I use stainless steel nut & bolt 8/32.

[@nuffdoggiggey4103]

Good job, i need a skilled electrician now!!! I am completing a pool the old one was junked alot of questions with the electrical, nobody ever paid attention to, i am concerned that my father in law didn't have any grounding to the pool pump, of any kind of bonding, unless someone took it, the pump is missing amd no copper wire anywhere.

[@jamesshanley1558]

Was wondering about a grounding solid copper bar? My dad when installed electrical for out pool pump when I was a kid installed a separate copper rod that was buried 6' in the ground. Is this overkill or is GFCIs good enough? Great video by the way

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Ground rod does nothing to clear a fault and for a pool is not required nor is it encouraged.

[@jamesshanley1558]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey TY for quick reply. Awesome video by the way

[@Guitarpch1]

How long did this take and what do you charge for a job like this? Nice video, thanks

[@thereefaholic]

It’s a great video and it was a ton of information in here. But where did you bond the pools bonding system? Was it run through the 20 amp ground wire back to the main electrical panel?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

The equipotential bonding grid is terminated at the pool filter motor. There's a copper grounding terminal normally located right beneath the wiring compartment.

[@thereefaholic]

Yes and it’s also bonded to anything metal within 5 feet of the water. But why size conductor bonds the grid to the main service panel? Just the ground for the 20 amp circuit or something larger? You still need a ground back to the source to make it electrically safe .

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@thereefaholic Yes, the solid #8 AWG gets attached to the bonding lug on the pool pump motor. The motor is wired with a #12AWG equipment grounding conductor. Any fault current would flow on the #12 AWG back to the panel and eventually to the source (the utility transformer).

[@garycunningham8478]

What kind of bolts and nuts do you use? And do you put them on before they put legs up for Pool?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Gary, lugs have to be rated for direct-burial and I use stainless steel hardware to resist corrosion.

[@bullhippo9023]

I kept expecting the drill to fall into the pool

[@jadamuzg1]

Hi Ron, great video. I am confused about 680.12. Do we actually need to have a dedicated disconnecting switch for the above ground pool pump circuit? I feel we don't and I didn't see you do it either. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

The required disconnect is the cord body that gets attached to the 20 amp locking receptacle. The cord disconnects thew power to the filtration system, like unplugging a lamp.

[@jnavarro957]

Great video. Very detailed. I got a question. I have a main 200amp panel outside of my house. I have a : In ground Swimming pool ( Black & Decker 2HP Variable Speed Pool Pump) 110 volt clothing washer & 220 volt dryer. I want to install a Square D Panel/ Sub panel I just need help in finding the right way to installing these items without messing up. also what is the best way to route my wires using which piping. EMT conduit pipe or PVC conduit pipe or Liquid tight All these will piping will be going from outdoor to indoor since my main panel is outdoor in my backyard. What breakers is needed for all these items listed above and do I need to get a gfci breaker for my pool pump. Do I need another panel to run the pool pump and later on add a pool heater. Items I already have in my possession is: Washer Dryer Pool pump 2awg Cooper wire (4 wire) Red, White, Black & Green Any help will help I greatly appreciate it to the fullest. I want to start this project this coming Thursday since I will have a few days off. Thank you hope to hear from you really soon. Stay safe and blessed.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

A sub panel would require (4) conductors from the main breaker panel. (2) ungrounded "hot" conductors, (1) grounded neutral conductor, and (1) equipment grounding conductor.

[@YemiOmotayo-k4c]

Sir what is the type of cable good for swimming wiring ?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@YemiOmotayo-k4c PVC costed MC cable.

[@westcentralpowerwash]

Can you use direct burial wire if it’s in pvc?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Yes, but the equipment grounding conductors must be insulated (NEC 680.21(A)).

[@westcentralpowerwash]

@ thanks. I don’t really know what that means but the wire I got is UF-B 12/2 with ground

[@wirenut9062]

Hey Ron.. great content. I'm in North Jersey. Where is that 5ft from the pool trench code?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Unbeknown to me, the section that required the 5' rule was article 680.10. This section was removed for the 2017 NEC and you may now refer to table 300.5 for depth requirements. You cannot run under the pool but you may run the underground wiring as close as you'd like to to the pool.

[@rainmaker3700]

I want to build an in ground spa next to my house, I have a large accessible crawlspace, can I put the mechanical equipment in that crawlspace? It would be on a slab inside a drywalled closet. I live in area that gets heavy snow loads and very cold.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

It’s always best to check with your building department first, but from an electricians perspective you need to install a service disconnect within sight of the equipment as required by the NEC.

[@brandonhamilton6080]

Good afternoon. How long did this job take you ?

[@alexmarz239]

Hasn’t the bonding system be removed from the nec as well? From what I read it says anything with a vinyl liner does not require a bonding grid.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

The steel supports still need to be bonded.

[@cristhiannavarro8458]

How much does this job go for materials and labor around your neck of the woods.

[@patrickmoore7607]

Question for you, do you worry about water getting into the trough through the conduit penetrations?

[@healyelectric]

He defeated the NEMA3R rating of the trough when he drilled the top.

[@morenoluis100]

Drilling the top of your gutter might let water in. I was always told that it'll defeat the purpose of the water resistants of the gutter. What are your thoughts on that?

[@scott3331]

If you really want you can use Myers hubs but really not necessary.

[@scott3331]

You can also use sealing lock nuts

[@garycunningham8478]

You put a screw in or nut and bolt

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Nut & bolt.

[@bernardonieves6731]

Does the time box has to be plastic to be outside?

[@ciampakid2012]

How often should the time clock turn on the pump?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

This one has (1) pair of ON/ OFF clickers. It turns ON for 12 hours and OFF for 12 hours.

[@alphasaiyan5760]

Yeah and I always get a kick out of the look on the customers face when you tell them how much it costs to install power to their pool …

[@trustmebro8500]

👍

[@MrRkon1]

How do you get the 5 bond points if the entire pool is resin including the the support posts?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

If it’s plastic there’s no need to bond because plastic does not conduct electricity.

[@garycunningham8478]

Thought you only needed expansion pipe on the house side

[@timmiller8495]

Can you come up to hunterdon/Flemington and do this for me, my electrician won’t return my text messages now

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Hey Tim, that's a bit of ride for me but if you'd be willing to pay a little extra to cover travel costs I'm sure we could come to terms and get your pools wired up THE RIGHT WAY.

[@timmiller8495]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey will be in touch

[@patrickkammer8122]

I believe that 12" depth rule for residential work doesn't include 240 volt circuits?

[@ohno1017]

Great video...about to go give an estimate tomorrow on a job very similiar to this. Could you say how much the bid was???? If not i get it. Thanks

[@a.ced.2052]

That’s a lot of work…. How much do you think something like this cost?? BTW… I’m DIY SOMETHING like this at my house not as nice looking but finished and inspected by master electrician Uncle

[@RagingRapids311]

I thought the equipotential bond had to be one continuous run with no splices?

[@cmar3182]

How much does something like this cost?

[@a.ced.2052]

That’s what I’m wondering…. Looks expensive

[@michaelwas8549]

pipe has to be schedule 80 coming out of the ground sir.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Do u have a code reference?

[@poolservicellc6220]

😁

[@scott3331]

I bet you paid about 120.00 for that 2-pole GFCI Breaker...nice job

[@bernardonieves6731]

Timer

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

What about it?