Fallout’s Fiercest Faction - Caesar's Legion | FULL Fallout Lore

[@WiseFish]

Hey guys just to say this is a reupload. We will return to new content soon. Sorry if you’ve seen this already!

[@hazy_thoughts]

It's like your second battle of hoover's dam

[@brookcorner7903]

Got your back!!

[@RomanumChristum]

"The legion had the ideology of survival of the fittest" Or at the same time Massachism

[@nocucksinkekistan7321]

everyone but me gotta learn ur cringe

[@nocucksinkekistan7321]

everyone but me gotta learn ur cringe

[@RoleCrow]

I see you fight with words, like all the cowards under the flag of the bear...

[@comradetiedanski6038]

Well, you're a fine one to talk for someone in anti material rilfe range :P

[@akramgimmini8165]

Lol i Blasted you with a Laser-Minigun And you exploded

[@chubbubdreamer6904]

@@comradetiedanski6038 I like to look him in the eyes before I show him my gifts from the Big MT.

[@nolanfrazier3482]

@@comradetiedanski6038 Kill from afar like a coward.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

The battle is decided, that's why I'm here

[@randomguyblank1616]

My favorite part of the legion, is summed up by this line by Veronica "Normal guys with knives and guns, taking over the Mojave". Other than New Vegas, all of the fallout antagonist factions were some sort of hyper advanced faction with amazing tech, even the Master's army. Yet the most successful of these antagonist have none of this advanced tech, not the power armor of the enclave, not the fev of the master, not the synths or teleportation of the institute. Its just men and discipline. The legion provides a decent counter argument to some of the Brotherhood's ideology. A low tech faction causing all this damage, no need for nukes or advanced weapons. It was never the weapons that caused the apocalypse, it was always humanity. Proving that as long as humanity walks the earth War, War never changes.

[@CommanderAbe]

@@randomguyblank1616 "No need for bombs when hate will do" - Ulysses

[@akramgimmini8165]

I will always think of Caesar as an Competent Mussolini I hate the ways of the Legion but I must still say that they Are hella Interesting

[@magicman3163]

He had better circumstances than Mussolini as Mussolini had to compete with larger empires as a smaller country with no industrial base

[@bombocrusty4251]

@@magicman3163 Yeah while it wouldn't exactly be easy being the only person educated in actual military tactics conquering a bunch of tribals wouldn't be the most difficult thing in the world. And then beyond that throwing the annexed tribals in constant machete human waves probably doesnt take much brains either. Ceaser only does as well as he does because all his enemies either have literal spears as weapons or are so hopelessly overstretched and corrupt they cant respond properly but that's only a temporary advantage.

[@TimtheEnchanter25]

Mussolini was very competent when it comes to his accomplishments in civilian life. He was never preparing for a huge war like Stalin, Germany and Britain was. He was always more focused on social matters, and in that, he excelled. Living standards went up, economy improved, Mafias were amazingly defeated thanks to the efforts of Cesare Mori, order was established, everything was ran on time, birth rates were high, cities were being built, roads and infrastructure was improving, new marble statues and buildings were constructed, people had pride in Italy, country was united and happy, education system was better than ever, including physical education, et cetera. One time, one of the towns were almost entirely destroyed by a natural disaster, and the Italian government rebuilt it in mere months, an amazing feat. He was so good, if fact, that despite Mussolini never intending to export Fascism in other countries, many movements throughout the world were inspired by it. British union of Fascists, Metaxas Greece, Dolphuss Austria, NS in Germany, Integralists in Brazil, Falanga Española in Spain, etc. Even Churchill openly admired Mussolini, so did Mahatma Ghandi, calling him "the greatest statesman of our time." So did the US ambassador in Italy, calling Mussolini a "great and a humane man." The whole world admired Italy's struggle against the powerful organized crime in southern Italy. Mussolini was not at all incompetent. The Italian army was.

[@TimtheEnchanter25]

@@bombocrusty4251 I don't think you've ever played NV. Take a look at how many Frumentarii there are in the Mojave. Making alliances, undermining the NCR, making deals even with the Van Graffs to acquire some energy weapons. Vulpes dealt with the NCR camp searchlight without a fight. Picus, a legion agent stationed at Camp McCarren, has been with the NCR since before the NCR Legion was started. Everybody, including Hanlon, an only man who Ever defeated the legion in a major battle, says that Legion fights smart, using superior tactics and overall strategies to win. He even admires Caesar in a way. "Best of the best, worst of the worst." No, it's not just "human wave tactics." The only reason the Legion is winning, is because they fight SMARTER than the profligates do. While the NCR can't even deal with ants on their major trade route despite all the rifles they have. Caesar is a brilliant strategist, and all his officers are appointed based on merit alone.

[@bombocrusty4251]

@@TimtheEnchanter25 Ok while I admit I oversimplified his wider strategies a little bit, my wider point is that if his enemies got any semblence of their shit together hed probably end up easily defeated, prolly not entirely his own fault either. It's just everyone else is either so terrible at their job or so hopelessly under supplied that Ceaser doesnt honestly need to do that much to push em over. I'd agree he and his Generals are fairly good commanders, however I'm saying determining how good is kinda hard as that would be like judging how good someone is at boxing by how well they beat up a dying old man who was good at boxing like 30 years ago ya know

[@ericsmith86753]

One thing I love to think about is how if the courier did die at the beginning, the legion would win the second battle. They have spies in the NCR, they have plans to take out key important settlements and positions, and they are seen trying to make a deal with the Van Graff's for energy weapons. They only way that they can lose is if the courier steps up and interferes with their plans, by siding with either house/yes man, or the NCR.

[@cowbeanboi412]

Debatable The spy bombs a damn monorail instead of the supply trucks which shows the frumentari really need Caesar to be smart Most of their targets are small towns with barely anyone in them and they still take loses The van graffs betray them still House sides with the NCR adding securitrons And Oliver escapes

[@kiingsama9441]

@@cowbeanboi412 thiers no supply trucks in fallout. Monorail is strategic it moves NCR soldiers to the strip. If they dont have it they go thru fiend territory and freeside. Oliver only espaces if the courier spech checks him hes dead set on fighting till the end same with lanius. Legion has the great khans and ormetas not to mention the fiends will attack camp macarian. House doesnt have the securitrons to be a real threat with the courier. It's been stated that the NCR is stretch to thin soldiers are barely equipped and trained. Lanius has a solid plan to attack the dam going from the top and the intake pipes. And on top of that the NCR solders are demoralized in the Mojave they dont want to be there. As for the legion attacks on NCR cottonwood cove, Nelson, searchlight, and nipton all of those attacks are strategic for the legion. Forlone hope is barely holding on

[@locus1419]

Idk in the long run I think NCR win or both sides lose Caesar will basically eventually die from the tumor it’s basically just a matter of time and if I remember the NCR station in new Vegas are basically a small force not even the main force the legion only has one form of leadership being a dying man who has no plan for what happens when he dies the legion would basically rip itself apart and just be raiders fighting each other

[@themcknox]

Its literally what the courier says in the ending against Lanius, the Legiom are strong, but they aren't as big as the NCR. It doesn't matter if they win that battle at the dam, they don't have the forces to hold the east AND the west. Legate Lanius is just a savage and even he knows this.

[@Kermunist]

@@themcknox Though, there’s no guarantee the courier knows what they’re talking about or is even being honest here.

[@_courier7]

I have to say as bad as caesar's legion is its good for one thing that is they made Joshua Graham the man he is

[@Kreia.]

Joshua was originally a piece of shit

[@JohnSmith-vm9ht]

Bad?

[@_courier7]

@@JohnSmith-vm9ht well questionable is a better word than outright "bad"

[@stoicgaardian]

@@Kreia. Yeah, but then he had a come (back) to Jesus moment and turned his life around for the better.

[@Kreia.]

@@stoicgaardian I was talking about his early design, but still in New Vegas, he was not a good person. He used the religion as an excuse to murder people.

[@mattyspoons777]

My guy. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Was super tired and had a long commute to work ahead of me. On the way to work I grabbed a coffee and listened to this video. Totally saved my Friday. Thanks mate!

[@WiseFish]

Glad I could make things better dude! Have a great day and keep your head up :)

[@tincano-beans2114]

There laws aren't always nice and their actions aren't always pretty, but neither is Raul and I still keep him around.

[@Jack-lr2nh]

Hey wisefish don't let that guy knock you down keep up the great work x

[@WiseFish]

Thanks dude! I won’t Dw hence why I wanted to get this out quickly :)

[@ryankasch5561]

If they ever go back to the West in fallout I hope they just don't have the NCR win. All three other options have interesting follow up and allow for variety in a post FNV world, but NCR seems to really limit possibilities.

[@notsooriginalmapper267]

Honestly though, the NCR probably wins because “morally good guys”

[@justinkim3235]

@@notsooriginalmapper267 lmao ncr is just as bad as the legion

[@notsooriginalmapper267]

@@justinkim3235 yeah...

[@swagmastermosley1706]

House is most likely the canonical ending

[@baneofbanes]

@@justinkim3235 Not really.

[@Theelosa07]

AVE, TRUE TO WISEFISH!

[@TheImmoralAuthor]

Ave, True to Wisefish !

[@BankRoll8860]

AVE, TRUE TO WISEFISH!

[@willmarsden7657]

"I see you fight with words." "You can't battle wits, because you'd be unnarmed."

[@RockorSomething83]

Something I enjoy about your videos is you look at things from a logical & neutral POV. Specifically, the Legion’s take on Women’s roles. Unlike others who glance over as “Oh, the Legion’s misogynistic. End of story.” You go into legitimate detail of _why_ they view women as they do.

[@WiseFish]

Well that’s how I view telling a story, just telling the facts of why they believe things. Glad you liked that about it :)

[@drdoomer8553]

How would it not be logical and neutral to say that they are misogynists? I get that we should have nuance but by definition they are

[@michalazarowski3544]

@@drdoomer8553 imagine being this ignorant

[@MrKipling420]

​@drdoomer8553 the definition of misogyny is "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women". Given that the definition carries negative connotations, it should be noted that Caesars legion actually have respect for their women, they just have strict gender roles. I would argue caesars legion is not misogynistic.

[@drdoomer8553]

@@MrKipling420 so how someone is treated wouldn’t be taken into consideration, only the justification/mindset of why you’re forcing people to do tasks on the basis of their sex? The women are breeding mules for the legion who are as they put it “disposable” outside of that use. It would be discrimination based on sex even if not prejudice and you could very easily apply the word “contempt” to how they’re treated. At the very least I’d say their actions are reflective of misogyny similar to how you could technically make black people slaves on the basis of their race and not be racist. Even if you were to go by the definition I would just apply some different semantics like referring to them as anti woman or something meant to display their behavior. The definition of racist for example includes “discrimination” however the definition you gave for misogynist doesn’t. So it doesn’t make much sense to me why one would include those parameters and the other wouldn’t. Discrimination for black people=racist, discrimination for women=NA?! Ok then anti woman? Or whatever term you’d like to use for it? There would probably come a point where the actions outweigh the justification for why we would label someone as such. “Well yeah I want black people to be slaves, be forced to not have an education, be work mules who we can kill at a moment’s notice, etc. however it’s based on experience rather than prejudice, I don’t particularly hate or dislike the slaves (in fact I have respect for their obedience/utility they provide) and I ARGUABLY don’t have contempt.”

[@Cothfotmeoo]

I don't know why i'm always amazed at the depth of lore you convey in your videos but here I am, amazed. xD Awesome work with this. Well played.

[@TheVTDuprey]

New Vagas is still my fav fallout. Im playing it again now. It just feels so much more free and open. And how u get ur ass beat if u step into the wrong areas too early. It gives it such an awesome feeling of danger in the world. I was really let down how the nurfed the factions in FO4.

[@MalfunctioningAndroid]

I'm quite a rebel among us old folks. My fav fallouts are NV>F1>F2. F2 fans keep stealing my rascal scooter, and F1 fans give money to goddamn kids to walk on my goddamn lawn.

[@greggoat6570]

That is a really reasonable ranking. Fallout 2 has objective improvements but it also has week points, and weaker in game areas, whereas Fallout is finely tuned masterpiece. Best ending in the series too.

[@MalfunctioningAndroid]

@awnash9223 different strokes for different folks. :)

[@gageowo9527]

I love the fact that at the start of the game, without protagonist intervention the legion are undoubtedly going to defeat the ncr. The president is almost guaranteed to be assassinated, with multiple plans covering every method of escape. The captain in charge of an entire NCR battalion and investigating Legion spies is a legion spy who has been in the NCR for years, even before Legion contact. The legion have leaders who lead with the troops on the front lines like Lanius or inculta while NCR leaders hide until the end of the game. Not only that but the latter of the two is able to infiltrate the Vegas strip. The legion destroyed several NCR settlements, they are poised to attack Helios One and overtake it if Archimedes is activated, the securitron bunker is locked under the fort and Benny fails infiltrating it, the Omertas attack the strip unsuccessfully but splitting NCR forces during the battle of the dam, Chief Hanlon is feeding false information to the ncr, and keeping most of the rangers at camp golf. The fiends lunch and attack at camp McCarran stopping reinforcements from going to the dam. The legion blows up the monorail and the infiltrators go undetected. Camp forlorn hope is overtaken by Dead Sea, Ulysses nukes the long 15 without protagonist stopping him, cutting off any NCR supply lines to the east and making it so they have to traverse The divide if they want to leave the West coast. The white legs overtake Zion valley and push into the northwest.Probably joining the legion as the 88th tribe. The great Khan's help the legion and are absorbed. From the way things look at the start of the game, the NCR are doomed without protagonist help. The legion run like a well-oiled machine and most of the quests you do for them are just assisting them when they were already going to win. The NCR are sending you on countless errands and have way more quests because they are desperate. They are overstretched, they are demoralized and their soldiers don't even want to be there. I don't hate NCR soldiers. I hate the NCR government being a bunch of tyrannical warhawk dictators that just want to overtake everything they see. They view Mojave wasteland citizens as lesser and often call them rats. They just want the water and plan on assassinating Mr House for the power of the damn and the Vegas strip. General Oliver is quite possibly the least likable NPC in the game. I'm not saying the legion are good by any means. I'm saying they are poised to win. The NCR and the legion are equally bad for the wasteland, yes the NCR are bad, they have slavery known as sharecropping. it's just as bad and came right after slavery. It's basically forcing people into a contract they'll never be able to pay off and working them to death. The NCR isn't afraid of carrying out assassinations or genociding factions either. These two are the opposite sides of the same coin and both of them deserve to be kicked out of nevada.

[@zacharyblaircox]

The legion has some pretty sound ideology. I wouldn't mind living in a world like that, of course I would have been dead before I turned 21.

[@alexjrk1675]

@@zacharyblaircox Fine Ideology if you don't value your freedom or your life

[@whathell6t]

⁠@@alexjrk1675 You forgot the third one, the pursuit of happiness. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness.

[@bobafett9348]

there is no happiness in world of Fallout ​@@whathell6t

[@ScabiousGarde]

I really wish they had more time to work on the Legion, make them more conplex. Like, if we got an idea of a less harsh civilian society, or more indications that they would soften if they actually were successful in taking Californian land, dialectically

[@SamuraiBonesie]

I think that’s the point, though. A fascist Society is based on having a common enemy. If they took NCR territory, they’d have to find someone new or else

[@brookcorner7903]

Thank you for reuploading the video!! Don't let those guys push you around! Best content I have seen in a while. Keep up the good work man!!

[@voxman3464]

Caesar's legion is probably one of the most sustainable factions of Fallout. Ironic, considering their views with technology, really shine out like a horrible beacon of malignant hope.

[@Bigkingmonster408]

@@ibrahimalee23 Marcus himself? You say that like it had validity. That's the opinion of a character in the game LMAO

[@ibrahimalee23]

@@Bigkingmonster408 Arcade even makes a similar point. The legion is avidly devoted to Caeser without barely being deeply well knowledged on his ideals.

[@Bigkingmonster408]

@@ibrahimalee23 arcade is idealogically opposed to Ceasar. He sees the Legion as an offense to the followers and hates it with emotion. It's not objective thinking. I can say "Raul himself likes the legion because he actually lived in Arizona and knew how bad it wad before Caesar." and that makes sense becsuse he was there. You're just using Arcade, who hates Caesar as a person and Marcus who never lived in Caesar's lands. Marcus raises a good concern but it's not a fact just because he's a reoccuring fallout character. Marcus didn't even say he hates Caesar's ideas.

[@jordanschoenenberger4397]

How are they sustainable, they have no leadership contingency and they rely entirely on pillaging to survive,

[@shoelessbandit1581]

Sustainable? The whole thing collapses once Ceasar dies

[@mljesus7743]

Bro Wisefish you are so damn underrated. Hope you’re channel can pick up sone steam soon.

[@lordbasilisk]

Other than independent isolationist Mojave, Legion will always be my favorite faction to side with. Other than being a huge Rome fanboy, I also respect the sheer force and power of the Legion. They're so ravenous and brutal, yet disciplined and will stop at nothing to conquer territory and unite humanity under a single banner. Reminds me a lot of the Imperium of Man from 40k in that way. Inb4 nobody asked, I know.

[@anthonypowell3466]

Been waiting for this man even though I’ve played every fallout game a hundred times for some reason your content is highly enjoyable. (Wait this isn’t the video you teased on your post a few weeks ago? I’ve been absent from the internet)

[@WiseFish]

This isn’t my latest video, it’s one I had to re-edit and post but I’m glad you enjoyed it! More to come soon :)

[@TheImmoralAuthor]

@@WiseFish Keep up the great work !!! The haters never going to stop hating so I'm glad you're not giving in.

[@FreaKCSGOHacker]

Me: *is in a bad mood* KZbin: *recommends me this* My bad mood: "alright, imma head out"

[@Moth_of_Yuggoth]

I allied with the Legion. The Ncr are too mainstream and same old for my liking. False sense of democracy gets boring eventually.

[@deerdust360]

That’s almost exactly my reason as well

[@Kreia.]

NCR is a weak choice. Most people who choose NCR have no idea what it truly is. NCR is not actually an independent nation, they depend on caravans and brahmin barons in order to function as a nation. They can’t even manufacture their own weapons, they pay Gun Runners for guns. They rely on mostly Crimson Caravans to carry their supplies. Camp Forlorn Hope and the refugee camp are in the edge of destruction out of starvation and lack of necessary supplies. They have vertibirds in their inventory, and yet they refuse to supply the camps with these vertibirds, they don’t even care. Camp McCarran, the main NCR Operations Base is getting destroyed by the Fiends each day. I can count dozens of problems with the NCR, and explain why it’s a bad choice. Look at the Legion, even without the help of the player, they’re already advanced in the Mojave, have the upper hand and crippled the NCR. Legion is superior, and they win the Battle of Hoover Dam.

[@safes9571]

@@Kreia. Not gonna lie the only reason I can think of the NCR not using there vertibirds is because the game developers themselves do not want to make it more easy for the NCR. Imagine the NCR using the vertibirds they have in Long 15 against the Legion bombarding and strafing them or hell just an airstrike on Caesar's tent itself

[@Kreia.]

@@safes9571 NCR isn’t capable of doing something like that. Even If they had tried, the Legion would take them out. The Legion has access to literally every weapon. They are not dumb. They adapt quickly.

[@safes9571]

@@Kreia. The NCR can literally fly vertibirds so technically they are capable but hey if your a Legion fan then I didn't say they aren't capable of shooting down a vertibird but that doesn't mean a Vertibird is useless, afterall the NCR is using those former Armored Enclave Vertibirds

[@ArchCone]

I just kind of love how logical the Legion is about everything.

[@The-not-so-charming-prince]

Based

[@SK0LDR1]

@dormiebasne3578Brutality is only applied to ancient societies when you look at everything with a 21st century ethos

[@ravleow9748]

A twisted and foolish logic, but a consistent one.

[@yamnaya88]

​@@ravleow9748Name one foolish thing

[@IonicSarge]

@@ravleow9748it’s not foolish in the slightest given their situation. It’s harsh and unforgiving sure, but not foolish.

[@Trespser]

Glad to see this video again really enjoyed it yet again

[@cruzaider5339]

Turn that mindset into a grindset baby, True to Caesar!

[@Shape07-0]

Even though this is a reupload i still will watch the whole thing later since it's 4am right now

[@AAZ-yu5ss]

AVE, TRUE TO CAESAR!

[@mranderson718]

Your NCR history vid popped up in my feed just now and after seeing your page I immediately subbed. Keep up the great work.

[@ostaruempire]

Can't get enough of the Legion

[@JRYYD]

Great video WiseFish, what will be coming next?

[@icrywhenisleep2130]

I really hope they remake this game not "remaster" that'd be stupid it would be better if they remade it and added the dlc that would allow the player to keep playing even after the main story is finished it would be cool to see the new Vegas strip filled with legion troops or ncr troops occupying ceasars camp

[@AC-hj9tv]

Great content. Needs more subs

[@aleinfingers783]

Love ur content bro

[@thenooblet7535]

Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@jasont8943]

This video is so well made

[@dazzaMusic]

Besides all the super mutants and bigger enemies Legate Lanius is right up there with them 6’11 80% faster than any other enemy unable to disarm got his own version of power armour easily one of the most dangerous beings in the wasteland.

[@JitteryJackanape]

What I don't understand is how can there be civilians in the legion? Males are made to fight? How can there be civilization if all they have is war. The cut content of Vegas is kind of disappointing. I think it would've been nice to see some sort of legion society/towns outside of the Mojave in say, Honest Hearts. All we really get is the word of some trader named Barton and a few caravans saying yeah no one fucks with their stuff. But that's super militarized still. Legion has no true citizens. They are all a slave to Ceasar and will Die out within a few years. At least thats how Marcus in Jacobstown sees it. And I do too. All they know is war. There is no real civilization

[@CriminalFriday]

Some people claim the Legion is the best hope for the Mojave, but I'd honestly rather be dead than live in the world they built.

[@whyamihere2k]

Ah yes the faction of larpers

[@TimtheEnchanter25]

Which faction are you talking about? The NCR LARPing as pre war U.S? Or The Enclave doing the same thing? Or maybe you were referring to the Great Khans LARPing as the mongols? Or the brotherhood LARPing as the knight orders of the medieval ages, even using titles such as "scribe" and "Knight" and "Paladin." Which faction were you referring to specifically.

[@JacobG2801]

@@TimtheEnchanter25 lmao exactly. The whole point is that the NCR and Legion are two sides of the same coin. Both groups LARPing as already failed versions of societies.

[@cowbeanboi412]

@@TimtheEnchanter25 wouldn't exactly call all of them larpers more inspired by The NCR take the system of government The Khans take the lifestyle The brotherhood take the order The legion takes most of the military strategy and the establishment of law bit

[@cowbeanboi412]

@@TimtheEnchanter25 enclave though are trying to replicate something incinerated in nuclear hell fire

[@legobatman5067]

I don’t blame them tbh, Rome was so cool

[@deilek6990]

A bad b-day turns into a very good reupload

[@phantomhurricane666]

it seems that ceazar's brain tumour made him forget that the original romans would bugger each other senseless.

[@PhilipJFry-qh2jg]

Yeah that's an enlightenment age lie

[@legobatman5067]

It was still considered taboo but as long as you see the dom then it was whatever but feminine men were ostracized

[@spacedalien2236]

Im pretty sure he was more inspired by Augustus Caesar because not only was julius around during the roman republic which Caesar (NV) talks down on heavily even comparing the NCR to the roman republic but also because Augustus Caesar was the first emperor of rome and the great conquerer of rome

[@streakingclothed]

Caesar’s legion is brutal, great video

[@jerichohill487]

Great video

[@coletrain411]

The courier isn’t necessarily sent on a quest to find who killed them. No one told them to.

[@baneofbanes]

The game developers/pipboy did.

[@coletrain411]

@@baneofbanes im saying in lore

[@ogregflamenguista4313]

look th cesar's legion is like the ussr in ww2 they just throw bodys onto bullets since they will run out of ammo eventualy

[@feralprocessor9853]

Right off the bat, the legion looking over new Vagas.

[@whaaaaaaap]

I wish Caesar had seen his palace in Vegas.

[@Blessinsz]

I remember being like 13 or 14 trying to beat this guy on hard-core mode. He killed me so many times. I remember the only way I was able to kill him was because he got stuck and wasn’t able to move.

[@IONindustries627]

I never knew the Legion was so fucking BASED....

[@vulpesinculta9578]

Ave! True to Caesar!

[@foxtrot8134]

To be honest I rather have the legion or Mr House ending

[@sillybob9689]

One thing for sure, the Legion make excellent enemy.

[@Dj_Olei]

I still have some friends that doubt how the N.C.R could be afraid of "A bunch of raiders wearing red" compared to their victory at Helios One against the Brotherhood. One of the only arguments I keep pointing out is why the Legion gave the N.C.R hell is because they could simply match up with them and then some.

[@szymonbollin5074]

Legion is what the wasteland needs to heal. NCR are repiting mistakes of the old world

[@cringusbingus6147]

Rome was also a society that collapsed and atleast the ones the ncr is trying to replace didn’t have slaves.

[@szymonbollin5074]

@@cringusbingus6147 Legion's currency isn't currently inflating itself to death like the NCR dolar does

[@audreymanuel967]

@@szymonbollin5074 The way they are portrayed in the game, they're just a bunch of dicks and their society is doomed to fail. They are supposed to reflect the pragmatism of the real-world Roman Empire, but their portrayal makes them evil to the point of twirling mustaches (they steal teddy bears from little girls FFS). Other than them getting rid of raiders, there's almost no upside shown to supporting Legion over NCR. And considering how corrupt and impotent NCR is, that is quite an achievement.

[@bruh-xb2uy]

@@cringusbingus6147 All societies collapse, the question is when they will collapse, Rome lasted for a thousand years and was one of the most successful societies ever established

[@taxult]

@@cringusbingus6147 All the societies in Fallout collapsed? America had slaves too, "had"

[@spider-spectre]

*Caesar gets brain cancer* "WEAK!"

[@Pinewatch]

The legion is so based

[@cringusbingus6147]

Cringe

[@ghostus3019]

@@cringusbingus6147 go back

[@joshuamarvin7400]

Pathetic.

[@pleaseclap5210]

​@@cringusbingus6147cringe

[@LegendStormcrow]

That Los Angeles was kind of painful.

[@dekay1428]

Still is such a sshame the devs didn't have enough tike to show more of the Legion. I read articles and other cut content on how there were intended ideas to inplace camps and occupied areas east of the damn for the courier to visit. Would've been cool to have a Legion companion, or Legion citizens to chat with. But all we sadly got was just the militaristic portion in game. Hope to see mroe in the later game.

[@pavelmorozov6599]

BASED, love them more and more

[@Kreia.]

Best option for the Wasteland

[@lordshaxx7727]

Best channel ever

[@feralprocessor9853]

Straight away, they kinda remind of the Carja from Horizon Zero Dawn specifically the Carja in Shadow that once resided in Sunfall.

[@roundninja]

I actually read Commentarii de Bello Gallico, and I have to say, I was pretty disappointed when it came to practical advice regarding how to conquer the post-apocalyptic ruin of the United States. Gibbon was of little help either.

[@isaacmaher7148]

imagine if somebody found mine kampf

[@thegameweeb6884]

The legion may be sustainable for a while, however the larger they become the harder they fall. 1 person cannot control large amounts of land for an elongated amount of time. Looking at human nature, neither the NCR or Legion are good options. Both sides have their own problems. Even so, I choose the NCR because I think they are the lesser of two evils. NCR has many weak leaders, either corrupt or just incompetent. Which is easily visible during the game. Trying to gain land quickly, spreading out their troops too thin. Not having a sustainable supply route. Then again, the Colorado River is a buffer zone between the Legion and NCR, letting them pass would very likely cause more damage in the future for the NCR. Without the Courier's intervention, the NCR would have most likely been routed. Caesar with his brain tumor, he would have died, and the Legion would likely splinter apart

[@StephenSupreme1]

Great video I love fallout

[@oriontheraptor8119]

I hope we see the legion again one day wasteland Roman’s are badass Roman’s

[@Duckii_mode]

As a Cesar I am so proud of this Caesar

[@tjbandroid]

Your amazing and Please do lonesome road and Ulysses 👌🏻

[@rene9892]

honestly, the legion is super cool but the cringy guards in front of and in Caesar's tent always made it impossible for me to do a legion play through XD

[@themagalanium9491]

Really the legion that we meet is as an invading force. Caesar or Caesar, depending on how you pronounce it, wanted to make his legion change from a nomadic group of Raiders into a genuine Empire if he were to take new Vegas, at that point who knows what Caesar would have done with his new power. that is if I didn't kill him I'm every playthrough

[@joshuamadjoker4399]

MORE FALLOUT LORE!!!! JUST DO IT!!😂😂 please lol love the content.✌️✌️🔥

[@WiseFish]

NCR lore coming soon :)

[@elian5798]

"Another kill to my name"

[@zakbrown676]

Wait... do the legion actually have 100 tribes then? As they had 86 before then they took another 14? Or did they have 72 then the other 14 are included in this total?

[@baneofbanes]

They have 86 total.

[@NIL0S]

A post to feed the algorithm :)

[@Westley6578]

Nice video

[@tariz32]

My kind of society

[@TheObscureRambler]

Yeah, you did butcher the pronunciation there, juuust a bit. "Gallechio"? Nawh. Gal-le-kho. As in Gallic, from or to do with Gaul. :) Other than that, a very in-depth and good lore video!

[@Gioyoji]

characters such as benny and caesar really are player like

[@someguy9293]

Caesar's Legion while powerful. They are however also weak. Ceasar isn't getting younger. Sooner or later he is going to die. Which the Legion will begin to split apart because no one is suitable enough to replace him. Legit Lanius while a capable warrior isn't a policy maker. And most of his policy would be to increase militarization of the Legion. Vulpes Inculta is more of the political type. But with him being a lower rank in the Legion. Who's going to listen to him? Lucius is a mix of both Inculta and Lanius. However he lacks the willingness or knowledge to lead the Legion. But does recognize that he was fellowing Ceasar and not his ideals. Noone is capable of taking over the Legion once Ceasar is gone. Lanius would increase militarization of the Legion then smash it against the NCR. Gaining victory on the body's of the Legion. But once the NCR comes back the Legion would wish they had the man power to stop them. If Vulpes Inculta was the leader. He would negotiate with the Great Khans and cooperate in a compined attack on the NCR. He would probably accept some technology into the Legion but mostly rejected automation. If Lacius was in the command sit. He would probably reverse some of Ceasar's ideas. Like the taking of Hoover Dam. And fouce on building up the land the Legion already own.

[@andrewdelaittre1132]

I love people who defend Caesar's Legion. Almost like they actually have a chance of surviving unified after Caesar dies, either by the Courier's hand or the tumor in his brain. When he dies the most powerful legates will gather resources and form smaller bandit kingdoms, even if they do take Vegas they have spent far too many resources trying to conquer the Mojave. The game points this all of this out dozens of times over. No, the NCR isn't much better, but at least their government wouldn't collapse completely if Kimball dies, a governor or the senate would take temporary power until a president is elected. Democracy, even flawed ones, are more flexible than authoritarian empires.

[@legobatman5067]

I think Caesar’s ultimate intention was to name the courier as his heir considering he puts so much confidence and trust in you

[@andrewdelaittre1132]

@@legobatman5067 but why would he trust a complete stranger that literal got shot in the head maybe a few days if not weeks ago?

[@legobatman5067]

@@andrewdelaittre1132 Caesar sought out the courier because he saw how ambitious and driven he was. He trusts the courier with the task of forging alliances with other groups. He sends the courier to kill house and the brotherhood. depending on “et tumor brute?” you can even save his life. The courier fights valiantly at the battle of Hoover dam. Adding all these up makes the courier a serious consideration for the next Caesar

[@notavailable1088]

I like these guys. They remind me of a certain Austrian art enthusiast

[@Romuluz369]

Seems like the legion produces the safest most capable society to me. Honestly i dont think you can really HAVE an NCR-like society UNTIL you've have a few generations of the legion-like society to shacle and harness the endless hordes of raiders and barbarians humanity produces when shtf. Once that aspect of humanity has been conquered (and make no mistake, it MUST be CONQUERED. Diplomacy cannot sway a barbarian.) then humanity can return to a Republic.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

All hail the lord of the salad!

[@basedvorenus7497]

Ave, true to Caesar!

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

I love Caesar and Lanius but I don't like the people of the Legion since they just follow Caesar and Lanius instead of following what they believe in and what they are fighting for... They just want to be told what to do instead. I would still pick the Legion over NCR if Mr. House wasn't a thing.

[@rngteatowel3080]

They follow Mars

[@blankface5052]

What about trade under the legion? You didn’t really mention it

[@AmericanUnionState1824]

Ave, true to Caesar

[@natmcag7781]

I remember when i tried killing the legion and sprinting away and getting 1 shot. ( i was a kid ) lol

[@TO-qg7wv]

Wish more time would have been allowed to develop New Vegas so the Legion could have got more content and expanded on like the NCR but Bethesda had Obsidian rush it out in about 18 months so things got rushed and cut

[@baneofbanes]

Zenimax, not Bethesda. But yes.

[@kennethkatekovich9243]

good work, profligate.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

They set the game in Vegas, they model one of the primary factions after the Roman Legions, but they don't make Caesars Palace a location? It just seems so obvious.

[@cpob2013]

They wanted to but they weren't allowed, it's proprietary

[@jonahc2807]

11:49 "Homosexuality is forbidden" That doesn't sound very Roman

[@CORPN]

True to Caesar

[@RealBradMiller]

Are you from New Vegas even.. Are you from New Vegas even!? Do you patrol and wish for a nuclear winter even?!

[@AnimeIsStupid]

When the game first came out, I thought Caesar's Legion was going to be some reference to Caesar's Palace in Vegas. It's a casino where the staff dress like Roman soldiers.

[@ShadowlordDio]

Imagine colisseum gladiator fights using mutant Tigers from Vegas casinos. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@ultraego752]

3:35 i know the video is over a year old. But i assume you meant to say 2226 not 2026 as that would be 51 years before the war