Without a Trace: The DeOrr Kunz Mystery

It's been over one year since 2-year-old DeOrr Kunz, Jr. disappeared while on a camping trip with his parents, great-grandfather and a family friend.
EastIdahoNews.com reporter Nate Eaton takes a look base on the case in this in-depth special report.

[@foster9062]

If that was my child I would have moved to that location. I'm not going home without them. My life would have been inspecting every inch of that area and surrounding areas. Anyone who visited the area I would have investigated them as well.

[@borninthewrongtime6449]

Spoken like a TRUE MOTHER!! I TOTALLY AGREE..TENT, PORTA-POTTY, I WOULD HAVE LIVED THERE TILL I FOUND HIM!!! As a Family of 4 we once went to Sesame Place, In the Computer Lab they have, (the computers thankfully were NOT working that day ), only some Arcade style games were active. There were about 20 people in the building. My husband & I were playing Hungry Hippos with our 4 year old & I was holding my 18 month old. I put her down, and told my husband to pick her up bc I have severe problems with broken discs in my back. He didn't hear me, & I looked down for a moment bc my son was excited about the game..within a span of 3 minutes my 18month old was gone. I screamed at my husband, who freaked out, I immediately told the employees to block the 2 doors. I told everyone in the place to please not move for a moment as my young daughter was missing. I have a very loud voice when I am frightened and I can be VERY BOSSY!! It only took 5 minutes to find my little one who was inside a car driver arcade game, actually hiding from us..thinking it was funny..We did play hide and seek in our home (Something I REALLY REGRETTED AFTER THIS), So it all worked out, but I had Moms coming up to me asking me, how did I know what to do?? I asked them How do you NOT??? PS That 18 month old is now a beautiful 28 year old, who laughs about this story to this day.

[@foster9062]

@@borninthewrongtime6449 I am SO happy you found your little one. I was on the edge of my seat reading your reply. I know the room starts spinning.

[@borninthewrongtime6449]

@@foster9062 Thanks..it was so frightening at the time. We packed up the kids, went back to the hotel & seriously discussed whether we were gonna go back the next day. We did just get some pool time, then a quick Sesame Parade & we were outta there..I was never so happy to be home!!! My husband passed away 4 years ago and truthfully he was the most amazing father, my kids (not kids now...adults) miss him desperately..Of course, he took my heart with him when he left and there are days when I just wish I was there with him...but I know what it would do to my sweet kids..I adore them both and they are amazing. So, I talk to him all the time & watch for signs & if I concentrate real hard..I imagine I can still hear his heartbeat like I used to, when I would rest my head on his chest..😇💖💔

[@owsowmuskwanaistus9213]

Mrs Foster yup me to o would be arguing and looking at someone to blame I would freak and look in every inch of that place even if it cost my own life

[@kaylastinson7420]

I agree with you. I would not go home I would not leave that forest without my baby boy. I have three and they all look like this angel and it breaks my heart.

[@IBeMelissa]

It's just so weird how the mother got re-married like 8 months into her son's disappearance...she's shady af. I think she did something to get rid of deorr so she could start a new life with her new man.

[@kkromero8229]

I know I wouldn't be ready to get married 8 months after my baby went missing. That's weird as fuck I don't like to judge but that seems so bizzare to have your mind set on something like getting married that soon. I would still be an emotional wreck I have a little 2 and a half year old boy right now and there's no way I just couldn't.

[@veronicasettee6052]

great analogy. best comment ive seen so far. doesnt make sense

[@Odette321]

These young parents who kill kids so they can have freedom and their unemployment money to themselves are all the same. Like Casey Anthony the loser whose little girl was in her way. The kids always get the blame for these POS sleeping around to have them in the first place.

[@maddisonbythesea3015]

Especially when she'd already given her first 2 kids away to their father after getting with Vernal and having DeOrr. So there certainly seems to be a pattern here.

[@chrisemerson7743]

Yea I thought it was very odd how she would never talk and never look up at the camera. That's ur kid, most mothers would be pleading with the public for their child. I think both parents were having affairs. The way they acted around each other and the way he always did the talking made me think that something else was going on too.

[@Jean-gf3fi]

did all the adults just FORGET they brought a 2yr old kid with them? Suspicious parents......and that dude on the couch - WEIRD.

[@binkyfaith]

Very creepy and strange

[@mindfuqq]

@@binkyfaith seems a simple minded person

[@foxyrhi7398]

Yep

[@whatrwedoing6968]

@@BTmomma yep

[@trayceevalen2134]

The couch guy does seem strange, but not in a "guilty criminal" type of way. I really think the mother (if not both parents) did something wrong. The whole thing is too weird. The mom in particular has been caught in lies. She's clearly hiding the facts.

[@lydiarogers4676]

Those faded "Missing" posters broke my heart. It is as though DeOrr is frozen in time. So sad.

[@WasanH3]

Its very strange that I felt exactly the same 😢

[@meanhe1093]

Ok come on!! That’s four separate entities that are saying that the parents have lied. 1) The local sheriff 2) The FBI 3) the first private investigator 4) the second private investigator, and both of the investigators hired by the family. “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” -Sherlock Holmes

[@AJay-rq9fc]

Parents did it because the jacket and toys they claimed deor had that day were found at an abandoned apartment that the parents were evicted from for not paying rent. Lies upon lies. Dont believe crocodile tears

[@Odette321]

I hope someone knocks them off since their lies about taking him camping will help them get away with it.

[@figgy7099]

And also this @ about 14:55 Strange guy w/ the Grandfather: Yea, I think there could have been an accident. Interviewer: Do you think it was kidnapping? Strange guy: blah blah blah... Yea, there could have been an accident. To me, that says it all.

[@joshuagoldsmith4308]

I agree mother and father need prosecuted

[@rahla53]

But the grand pa is involved too then?

[@texasray5237]

Kid dies from an accident, neglect, abuse, or whatever. Parents fear being blamed. So they bury him somewhere and then stage his disappearance.way out in the woods far from where he really is.

[@elanamcnutt632]

Not to be mean but how exactly do you lose a two year old in a family camping situation? He's two. His legs aren't that long...he couldn't be that fast...and in oversized cowboy boots.

[@kingrob9993]

Elana McNutt check out missing 411 by David paulidis . This is unexplainable phenomenon. Children and adults vanish instantly without a sound or trace in our national parks and forests it's bazaar. May not apply to this case but look into I'm sure you'll be mindblown

[@jeanettehinds4253]

Elana McNutt. You don't. I believe that beautiful child was never at the camp site, not alive anyway. These people are lying, they keep changing their stories, they have both failed multiple lie detectors and their both going to end up in the electric chair with the grandfather at their side.

[@thaneelouise9044]

Elana McNutt , my thought exactly.

[@robertklimeck1918]

jeanette Hinds I hope you are never on a jury. You need actual solid evidence that proves a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, to convict someone and you're ready to fry them just on your suspicions.

[@jeanettehinds4253]

Robert Klimeck. Yes, and the evidence is there, waiting for someone to find it.

[@lilyblu4577]

The fact that mom and dad's story kept changing is enough for me know this case has never been a mystery.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

Well They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@JesusDiedLMFAO]

@@GudJonnyCakes Not having enough evidence to charge them is not clearing them. They killed him and covered it up. They’re sociopaths. We can smell our own.

[@hannagonzalez7729]

As well as her demeanor during the 911 call

[@KristinaUSA-x5n]

@@GudJonnyCakesBalfour Beatty Mormons covering up.

[@sophiasdreamquinnblue8977]

He was sacrificed.

[@barbaraboeckman1510]

Who leaves a two year old with an old man on oxygen and another odd man they don’t even know?!

[@susanbrown2909]

Exactly.

[@nancyfarkas3062]

The Sheriff believes he is dead and that he was killed. He says the parents have painted themselves into a corner when they said he was wearing floppy boots that he could not walk in. The boots have never been found. The parents are suspects but they have not been charged yet because they don't want to jeopardize the case yet. He said the parents failed multiple polygraph tests especially when asked if they know where he is!

[@nancyfarkas3062]

Rarely does that happen. It's rare for someone to admit to what they did.

[@keithturner2207]

Hffk

[@peterbeadman9010]

@@keithturner2207 what does this mean please?

[@betornween]

Polygraphs mean jack in court and in other videos the results were said to be inconclusive.

[@G-Star-Raw]

Poor baby...if you don't want him..millions out there do...

[@lilbitkauffman7944]

I agree100%

[@carolsceniak9673]

Iam with u👍

[@KneeoGeeo]

What? What if they accidentally killed him etc.

[@crystaltheo8494]

Why are so many kids in foster care and group homes? You all are nothing but talk. Not action. Shame on you.

[@aliceshepherd9965]

@@crystaltheo8494 I was thinking the same thing millions of people don't care or want all the kids that don't have no one I can't stand people who are like this crazy person who made up this cold lie they make me sick

[@blooddebts1989]

Does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. The family is sketchy as hell. The father is putting on a show and enjoys hearing himself talk. Came across this behavior too many times in my life to think otherwise. Sadly the most simple explanation is usually the right one in this instance. God bless the little boy

[@debra6513]

You could be retarded and figure this one out!

[@shanatinnin339]

Mom sniffles but there’s no tears.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

People deal with things differently

[@MegaSnow121]

Shana Tinnin Reminds me of the Korman case in Portland, Oregon, 9-10 years ago. So sad.

[@romanshtengel7489]

Keep up the good work Nate searching for missing kids!

[@smithamy1982]

His mother never shed one real tear, appeared to be their physically but not emotionally or mentally. Her demeanor, body language, inability to even look at the camera or the interviewers added into a failed lie detector test is enough for me to believe she either killed him or he died due to her being neglectful. Either way, she knows what happened to him and has moved on before anyone else even gave up looking. She spent more time focused on her relationships than she did on her missing son- unless she knows he isn’t missing, and doesn’t want him to be found. Guilty!

[@louisewilliams4676]

something are going on but it sho ain't care

[@louisewilliams4676]

they might have dugged a grave for him that's why they are not worried the grave someone saw

[@Jk-xs6wi]

I'm inclined to agree with you. But what bothers me is if one of those four did kill the little guy, what was the motive? Can't seem to wrap my head around it.

[@curshalapernell7606]

something not right... if he got lost wondered off he wouldve been cryn screaming for his parents they would've herd him....somebody did something to him.....

[@BeeJae78]

Absolutely not true. We get children lost in the bush semi-regularly they wander off and normally die of dehydration after a few days. They don't cry or if they do they aren't heard until someone comes upon them. Thats not to say the parents didn't do something to him. His remains should have been found by now unless someone had actually hidden them.

[@daughterofKing1]

Curshala Pernell parents killed him.

[@kingrob9993]

Curshala Pernell look into Missing 411 by David Paulidis many people and children vanish in our national parks instantly without a trace without a sound. It's a unexplainable phenomenon that is happening. And human abduction, animal attacks and accidental incidents are ruled out.

[@patkeeler6645]

+daughterofKing1. the kid wandered ff

[@sherrycaraway5663]

He could have wandered off far enough that nobody heard him. Or one or the other parent killed him.

[@valentine3380]

If i was the mother of a missing child and a news crew came to get my story I wouldn't be just sitting there, quite head down like she is, I would be getting my story out there and plead for the safe return of my child.

[@misstymiss2249]

Omg my son when he was 5 yrs old almost got lost in the woods, while hanging out in a park, my sister was supposed to be watching him, omg thank God we found him, i was frantic my uncle wife told me i turned white, while looking for him, i will never forget that day

[@aprillondon2711]

i don't want to speak ill on anyone that said i just can't get over that man on the couch. some kind of oddness there that didn't sit well with me idk what it is or why.

[@sandradark82]

April London I reckon he knows more than he is saying, you hear him several times referring to an accident and very hesitant on the kidnapping question.

[@pinkydash8543]

April London There is something very strange about him.

[@Pussycatfeathers]

Me too...a gut feeling about him....have to say though the grandfathers story makes no sense either, he's supposed to be supervising a two year old and lets him wander off to find his parents alone in this remote area with a reservoir nearby? Who would do that??

[@KnottyCeltic]

SAme here...My CREEP-DAR was pinging over that guy too.

[@kellymae4848]

I had the same weird feeling about him on the couch something isnt right about him

[@be6388]

as an officer I would ask: who of the adults had to pay attention on the child? A 2 years old, in the wilderness, near water, wild animals,...I would keep in my eyes 60min/h!

[@MissHannah2036]

As a mother, you know who you leave your child with, you make sure of it. Who did she say she left the child with. They're all pointing the finger at each other.

[@maryjaneblues7712]

Exactly! He was 2! He should never been sent back to camp with GPop alone let alone GPop was incapacitated!😢

[@hungirl69cz23]

There were 4 adults and nobody watched the baby?

[@sherrycaraway5663]

Yeah these people aren't exactly splitting atoms.

[@Odette321]

They're lying. One day hopefully one of the other ones will fess up. None of them have a soul if they think that baby deserved to die.

[@aclearview7748]

I know right

[@shojinryori]

Angel Mum well sure, but let that be a lesson to everyone: if you think someone else is looking after the kid bloody well go and check! When you assume things, we end up with situations like this.

[@winky1571]

julianna cz I’m so mad right now how gosh 😞😞 I’m so scared to even ask how knowing that I have to grandsons 🙏🏽god please in Jesus Christ mighty name let our family never ever have to go through this hurting 😢😢thing ..... take me lord .... I’ll go in his place 😔😔😔

[@twistedsunflower8969]

Poor baby Deorr. I hope they find you. I'm from Idaho and everyone I know hopes and prays that you are found.

[@edwardalamo2507]

Panic sets in to protect oneself or loved one my guess he accidentally get hold of meth or some other illegal drug

[@angelasmith-rael2024]

Still praying here in Wichita ks

[@luxste]

@@edwardalamo2507 That's exactly what I thought. Based on their mouths, alone, I really do think that meth was involved.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

@@edwardalamo2507 They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@GudJonnyCakes]

@@luxste They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@justineseitzinger5340]

Unfortunately, I believe the parents are involved. Her 911 call does not sound like a panicked or distraught mother, it sounds very fake, as though she's trying to sound upset. She says "um" 3 different times I think it was. If you realize your small child is missing, you're not going to call 911 and say "umm, well I think... um, I think that- um that my child is missing?" F that. Also, how often do we see her looking up at the camera or the faces of those in the crowds? Once, twice maybe? A mother who wants her child found is going to make eye contact with as many people as possible, look them in the eye and tell people how badly you need your child back, please help us. Not sit in silence staring at the ground. Lastly, it's very rare for an individual to fail a polygraph test MULTIPLE times if they are in fact telling the truth, it just doesn't happen. For the police and 2 separate, unrelated private investigators to all point the finger back at the parents says a great deal right there. Just doesn't add up to me at all. I only hope that the poor little guy didn't have to suffer, whatever was done with him.

[@mattkaustickomments]

She sounded scared and in shock to me, hence the hesitance (as in not wanting to believe what she is fearing). I think the call is totally credible. Go back and re-listen.

[@Tantangel1984]

Not everyone who doesn't look a person in the eyes is lying either. Sometimes too much eye contact can mean a person is lying. It could be that she doesn't want to look up because she doesn't want to have a complete meltdown or doesn't want to sob inconsolable during the interview. The call itself sounded valid and not really made up. I myself think they probably did it and once everything blew up to this point they probably feel that if they were to change the story to it being an accident that they'd be found guilty due to the longevity spent sticking to tart story alone. If he was abducted, he may not have been able to scream if he was grabbed from behind and his mouth covered. There's too many factors people don't take into consideration. If he wasn't found by now, chances are he was possibly buried, they killed him elsewhere and everyone there was in on it, or even that he could have fallen in a hard to see hole unless you were almost right on top of it. Either way though, it probably won't be an easily solved case for quite a while.

[@diabeticdiaries7954]

I disagree! I think she was terrified.

[@michelleprieur1]

I always love it when people say that they know exactly what they would do or feel in a situation that they've never been in.

[@samanthasegarra2683]

Justine Seitzinger i didn't see tears...they killed that lil boy

[@daisycatdaisycat8873]

parents dont look at the camera especially the mother... they did something to the kid. clearly was the parents.

[@louisewilliams4676]

They got rid of his body the same day he went missing

[@86_may3]

they lost him on purpose, no mom would just sit there and not get up and look endlessly.

[@balenciagalifestyle2361]

You said it right, NO “MOM” Would!! But she clearly wasn’t a mother/mom! Pure evil, pure trash to say the least!😔

[@MissHannah2036]

As a mum, you know who you've left your child with, you make sure of that. You don't just think your kid is with so and so, you know. Just like Casey Anthony, could never honestly answer who she left her child with as she was the last person to see child alive.

[@LaoSoftware]

They need to investigate the four adults again. The kid vanished, but the adults are fine and safe? That's not right. Very suspicious to me.

[@norml.hugh-mann]

LaoSoftware sounds like that is all they have done...investigate the adults

[@nancyfarkas3062]

Well there is NO proof he was ever at the campground. The Sheriff said the parents have failed multiple polygraphs and are not being truthful.

[@vivienleigh6629]

The grandfather said that he saw the boy go after his parents that's why he thought the toddler was with them. He certainly didn't make sure of it. Had someone been supervising that little boy he would still be alive. An unsupervised child near WATER often ends up drowned. In fact that is what i believe happened. They hid the body because neglecting your child is cause for prison.

[@IBeMelissa]

Children have vanished in national parks more often than you think, even when near their parents. Cases like that of Dennis Lloyd Martin who vanished while playing near his family...he remains missing for over 45 years now and no trace of him was found even when search dogs were brought in. Of course it's easy to suspect the parents as soon as a child goes missing but the fact is, not all are guilty in these strange circumstances. If you know David Paulides' books Missing 411, you'll know so many children have mysteriously vanished in the wilderness. Some are never found, some are found dead in miles away locations that are not possible for a child to get to in that specific time-frame or area, some are found with missing clothing and no shoes and with strange injuries. Children that are found alive are again in miles away locations with no memory of what happened or are too young to say where they went. Something else and unexplained is definitely going on...

[@captainhowdy8897]

Lao- the parents did everyone in idaho knows fuck we gridded every inch in. 10 mile radius.

[@karenhall4645]

If you take a 2 yr old camping, you need to make sure that if you leave him with someone that person is very clear that they should be watching him. If the parents go off exploring, ask if they're taking the baby with them. There's so much careless parenting and suspicious behavior in this case.

[@trublu3483]

The father's pleading sounded like a B rated actor, while the mother looked down at the ground. You don't need a polygraph when you lie so poorly

[@thebenjandboc6981]

U know damn well when they went to the store the night before they dumped him on the way back. Claimed he walked off at the campsite knowing the cops would never find him there

[@MS-if8wj]

they need to go further out. it seems to me that if someone wanted their child to go "missing" at a camp site they would have them get "lost" miles from the actual spot they would report him missing from, just to make sure searchers wouldn't find him. look in other places. I truly believe the parents did it.

[@utoobjunkie4902]

I lost my husband and our 7 yr old son in a drowning accident in 1997. Happened in front of our 11yo daughter who was alone with them. It was 2 weeks after my dad died of cancer....if I thought my son was lost out there and could be found....‘I would have died trying to find my baby out there before giving up ! It was all I could do to not throw myself in the grave with my baby let alone leaving the area where he disappeared !

[@sherrycaraway5663]

Yes. You are right. They could have driven him miles away and killed him. They searched close to the camp site because they believed the family that he must have wandered off.

[@betornween]

@@utoobjunkie4902 Good luck with that. After the initial search the parents are removed from the search so as to not mislead or tamper with potential evidence.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

They didn't do it

[@GudJonnyCakes]

@@sherrycaraway5663 would have been evidence dumb ass

[@samcox2873]

Some people believe Deor was never on the camping trip to begin with. The theory is he was dead before they ever went and the trip was all a cover-up.

[@miahleissa9599]

very heart-wrenching story.....darling child obviously killed and hidden. Just made me so sad to see this one. :(

[@butterflygazer]

Let's hope and pray that we finally get some answers and that justice can prevail in this case.

[@debra6513]

Open this up and get new eyes on this case, it should have been solved, you have the dead beat PENNER investigating this and he should retire, he can barely talk, you have to ask yourself, did he have a brain injury??? He has to think too long to answer a simple question, practically slurs his words, makes statements he can’t back up when asked to, Please get rid of this guy and put a person knowledgeable on how to interrogate and find justice for this adorable boy.

[@joycebruhn1346]

The truth the truth I feel once he ran once he fell once it was a go everyone did like the did for Natalie wood waited too long to call too long to come up with story too long because of many factors but sad sad. Sad a toddler can get farther than you think

[@beccareul]

That family knows what really happened to that poor little fella. What a shady bunch of misfits.

[@thehotnickles9458]

What facts do you have to support that? Or just gut feeling?

[@stephanim2436]

I feel the same. Ali really circumstantial but a mix of gut feeling and the fact that the jacket and toys are found in the apartment is hard to explain

[@j.c.5016]

They did fail the police polygraph which made em suspects.

[@alyssa0411]

The campground was in an open field...how could the adults lose sight of him? It's not like they were in dense forest. Were there other campers at that campground that could come forward to say they actually saw a little boy there that day? Makes me wonder if that child was ever there.

[@rockstarofredondo]

The cops say no credible witnesses saw the boy at the campground.

[@salliegallegos918]

He was at the store in town.

[@amypoucher995]

he disappeared before they went two the camp grounds the camp ground is a cover up

[@GudJonnyCakes]

They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@yvonneconte3040]

​@GudJonnyCakes ok, majority of people agree on this case. You're the very minority. 😂

[@MY-cz4ts]

The mom seems guilty and look how nervous she looks on that sofa with the investigator's interview

[@187mrsmith]

I'm watching about this on ID channel the mom just looks like she did it ... She looks mor annoyed & mad that she has to deal with this ... Some girls don't deserve kids I sware

[@mirkamirkic5690]

It is obvious that the parents killed their child. No evidence? We need to work on recognition. Press them, provoke them and they will talk. I hope that at that point there will be enough time left to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

[@villagebound61]

If that was my son I would be crying and pleading for anybody that knows anything ...i would go to the moon and back for my kids...i hope they find him...🙏🙏🙏

[@gypsysoul4683]

I live just a couple hours away from here. Everyone here knows the parents are involved. Everything that happened during and after is extremely suspicious. People here are heart broken over this little boy and want him found. Nothing makes sense in this case. Every season people go looking for him. Such a sad story. The truth will come out!!

[@lindaarrington9397]

I'm gonna starte praying over this How long ago did this happen It's tearing me up that so many parents are either doing drugs or drinking in excess... They may or may not be killing these little one on purpose but when they are starved to death uou know they are just sorry trash. I've never heard about this child but I know eventually he will be found. So everyone thinks it's the parent? Why? Can you educate me so I know how to pray better. Please?

[@sophiasdreamquinnblue8977]

Occult sacrifice!

[@animaladvocatevoiceofinnoc8942]

Did anyone see the baby BEFORE the trip

[@alysononoahu8702]

Animal advocate Voice of innocents the guy on the couch said he was fine in his carseat

[@edwardalamo2507]

Its not to say they may have been to the same location a day or two or week ago with the child and witnesses are confused as to the date

[@StarAnnasDream]

They took him to the little mountain country store Stanton Junction in Leare..on July 10 That was with his parents they got him some candy and breakfast. It was on store cam

[@shanatinnin339]

If you’ll notice, the boy they waited around for to help build their alibi said “as far as I know”...referencing to whether the baby was in the back seat.

[@blairedawn8307]

That's a great question

[@julieromero7219]

If you’re innocent, your story doesn’t change. They are GUILTY

[@deemarie.]

Damn their private investigator don't believe them. Prayer going up.

[@nancymesek]

Both of the investigators though they were guilty.

[@pattym9133]

Why marry with in the year?hmmm. You should worry about your baby being found!like no sleep out there 24/7.

[@blessinggoodthings3124]

I wonder a sincere grieving mother will not marry in years after losing a child this way. My take.

[@metalmamasue3680]

The last thing on my mind would be a new relationship, FFS. The last effing thing. The *ONLY* thing would be my missing kiddo and I would be heartbroken. My boys are grown up and I still feel that way.

[@thegamingchannel9023]

Treu that when ma uncle die 24 years ago ma grandmother could not handel it and diden date she die 2 years after him of pain

[@betornween]

What spouses say to each other cannot be used in court. If she confessed to her husband it can't be used against her .

[@wendyladybug355laurie4]

@@betornween They Weren't Married,Only Engaged.God Bless All 😇😇🙏🙏💝💝

[@nursey22]

okay i'm only one minute into this video and the mom is giving me weird vibes. it seems as if though she's purposely avoiding the camera and the sunglasses kinda put me off....any updates on this? I got a vibe they're involved in this poor boy's disappearance.

[@cosm1cstar]

cyn .... I too felt something odd off of the Mother soon as I saw her, soon after the baby had disappeared and was reported to rescue. I would even go as far as to say that I think that somehow she is involved with her child’s disappearance ... I didn’t like the man, Issac, sprawled on the corner of the sofa, I felt that there was something odd, shifty, about him. For such a young child to have gone missing I felt he was too detached, as if he really couldn’t care, or didn’t want to be involved one iota, does he know something ?? .. As this case is proving difficult to resolve, why don’t all concerned bring in a psychic, if this had been done at the beginning the police, FBI would’ve found this tiny boy either alive or, I feel-already was not alive ....

[@gordonbricker1670]

@@cosm1cstar No physic, that's occultism/spiritism, they won't escape justice anyways. Leave it to our LORD.

[@cosm1cstar]

Gordon Bricker .. being psychic is not necessarily occultism, I have been psychic ALL my life and I’m not into occultism. It’s always been a natural for me so you must have religious blinkers on not to at least find out re being psychic ... however, we are not here to discuss being “psychic” .. psychics do a very valuable job, most have proved to have been very helpful in helping various American police forces in their searches to do with murder/disappearance cases when leads/information has/have reached a dead end or dried up .. without them tuning in to the energies of the case, be it murder or disappearance etc, some would never have been solved leaving relatives/loved ones/friends in limbo with no closure and worst of all, no answers ..... AND the guilty would’ve quite possibly gone on to perpetrate more crimes that could be equally fatal .....

[@gordonbricker1670]

@@cosm1cstar Hi, the Word of GOD strongly condemns it: www.gotquestions.org/psychics-Christian.html Even the devil can "heal" and "help" but at a cost: your soul! My mom was into spiritism and occultism, I don't know if she became a born again Christian on her deathbed …. so sad... Please repent and give your life to JESUS while there is still time, judgement is coming soon - the 7year Tribulation is right around the corner. Please don't miss the rapture or your won't get a 2nd chance... Dr. Ron Rhodes on end times chronology christinprophecy.org/sermons/ron-rhodes-on-end-times-chronology/

[@Troublenut]

@Anne K i think he might be on the spectrum which explains his detachment?

[@blancabonazzibonaca9145]

One of the parents killed him and the other is covering for him/her. If the little boy had been lost, they would have found them. A two and a half year old cannot go very far. I would be screaming, going crazy if my kid was missing.

[@edwardalamo2507]

Opiolds like oxycodone is epidemic child would think its candy.

[@amberbrown8174]

I agree man on couch seemed off but maybe he is autistic or something but this story don't add up

[@esmith989]

He pretty much said there was an accident.

[@emilywiebel3238]

I agree I don’t think he’s involved but I think he was the perfect individual for them to take with them bc he wouldn’t notice or pay attention to anything strange happening.

[@mayaamis]

family did it 100% there was to many sketchy things about them, the whole family, later in interrogations and recounts of the story. the initial story of how he was lost didn't make sense for normal parents, the story later kept changing, the grandpa too was super suspicions but he died, the dad supposedly failed polygraph but it was inconclusive. whether it was intentional or accident I don't know but that boy died and they covered it up for sure and they buried him somewhere in the woods between town and camp! he never went to town with them. the mother looks like pure psycho and she remarried another new hubby and lived a happy live within months of this. Casey Anthony all over again!

[@jonwright7675]

there is no way in he'll four people can loose a child with big boots on hes not going to get far. if the parents didn't do it they would have never left that camp ground. if you can't take care of your child phone someone. poor little guy...

[@leah0927]

She said in the beginning of the video he goes no where without his blanket cupee and monkey so why was his monkey in the trunk? There story is B's and it is insulting that no one has been charged. If you can't find evidence someone took him or evidence a animal got him then there can be no one else but the mother or father. Come on this is why people do the bad shit they do cause they get away with it.

[@dawnmathis5794]

I followed this from the first day DeOrr was missing and believed the parents. I now believe they're involved in his disappearance. I think something tragic happen to Little Man.I hope some day one of them tell the truth and they find the little boy so he can rest in peace.

[@dawncampbell6064]

little Dior ,how come 2 private investigators say parents are lieing , that's sad even the FBI

[@paulgray1945]

Notice the Interview with the guy on coach that was there with Grampa,hes a few fries short of a happy meal.He sais 2-3 times if it was an accident.

[@gilbertluna3593]

paul gray Very true Paul

[@dannysee1]

It just makes him a creepy weirdo unless he's a alien then I would blame him

[@mariejulie3455]

he's a basket short of yogis picnic

[@janeparrott4133]

I thought he was a little sketchy also!!!

[@greefo]

@@purrcatiper9283 detaching yourself is an alarm.

[@BaiiBaii22]

What kind of dogs were they using? I'm sure a few bloodhounds would have been better than people on horses honestly bloodhounds are more reliable than people's eyes my first thought would have been to ask for bloodhounds, and the mother BARELY looks up 90% of the video (suspicious?) why haven't they interviewed the grandfather further either?

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

The father actually cries in the interviews. The mom? Where are the tears? No psychologist will tell you to take a polygraph. You're more likely to be accused when you're innocent than to have it catch you if you're guilty. *_That's why the courts don't allow their results as evidence._* If the cops ever ask you to take a polygraph, don't do it.

[@foster9062]

God be with you little guy. Where ever you are.

[@BatchelderPatrick]

I don't get it. Didn't they say something like the mother could show them the grave but she just couldn't go on and talk about it? So, what's that all about?

[@emilywiebel3238]

The more I watch this is makes my stomach turn. The officers involved in this case are more upset and concerned about baby Deor than his parents and family. They truly seem heart broken as they are trying to force out tears.

[@debra6513]

They didn’t try hard enough! They need to get on this and interrogate them thoroughly, it’s so obvious they are lying! Put someone new on this case obviously Idaho doesn’t know what they are doing!

[@twixbars6048]

they killed him and hid his body, they look very guilty

[@Kimberly-rj2sc]

The mom looks overly guilty to me

[@betornween]

Looks mean nothing to a court. Come back when you have evidence other than a image.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@GudJonnyCakes]

@@betornween preach bro

[@aprilhurt5514]

Why do I feel like dad is innocent but mom is another Casey Anthony?

[@GoddesssAphrodite]

April Hurt %100 agree, something isn’t right about his mom and the fact that she got married to another man?! I hope I’m wrong and he is found safe

[@cassandrarowe3216]

I feel the same

[@sherrycaraway5663]

Because he seems more upset than she does. It was her father who said he was watching the child when he disappeared. The dad could be covering for her if she harmed the boy.

[@arizonarider6998]

It seems like he is covering for her .

[@patiencemubaiwa8770]

Nop. Dad is too talkative to be innocent. Rather i think the dad did it after discovering the mum wanted to move on with another man. I think the mum knows and feels guilty or was pressured into not saying anything. She is too quiet becoz she really cant say anything.

[@evilgoodness1]

man i cant even stomach nancy grace doing something good for someone... its a shame about the kid but i sure hate seeing her face

[@opalgoon6154]

I tend to trust detectives since they know the case inside and out, the details. I hope he gets justice

[@hayleyreed8428]

Don’t you think it’s weird when the person said to the grandfather don’t u think Jessica and deorr could of done it he just said there’s no evidence like think about it if someone said to your parents do u think (you) did it they would be like no way no they loved their son blah blah blah not just there’s no evidence hmmmmm

[@cathyveal9663]

...the amazing thing here is you got 27 Likes.. and we have all these assumptions coming from this group of ''Brains'' LOL God help us all.

[@goadjacquelyn]

Hayley Reed After watching a million of these, that was my take too!

[@blondecat666]

'Could OF done' is in what language?

[@iwantthetruthandnothingbut6521]

What I think is weird is that you don't know how to use punctuation...😉😉

[@nursey22]

do you even grammar?

[@Theyenvyniya_]

Aw DeOrr. My heart breaks for him right now. So sad 😢🩷.

[@Tara-Yah]

All this adults look very suss! who lets a 2 year old outta their sight...I suppose we will never find out the truth...but everyone knows there was foul play but can`t prove it...

[@GudJonnyCakes]

The police and the fbi doesn't suspect foul play or they would arest Simone already

[@johnnydtractive]

You can't tell much from the brief clips of the parents here, but take a look at the unedited interview they did, it's here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6iwYqJ9aN9ma5o I'm certainly no expert, but the interview seems...odd. They're given precious time on state-wide tv to talk about their son, & they talk about everything BUT him. When asked at the beginning to explain what happened, for example, they start their story with the 911 call. What?! Your child is missing & you don't start with that? The interviewer has to actually prompt them again about halfway thru the interview to explain what actually happened at the campsite. The husband is doing everything he can to avoid actually talking about the events or his son. He's got an opportunity to tell tens of thousands of people about his son, what he was wearing, etc, but instead he drones on & on & on about the helicopter & it's night-vision, & the lousy cell reception, & the social media rumours. Really? That's where his focus is? Those are the important details for him? The couple seems off. They are both pushing hard with the abduction narrative, but I think they know 'way more than they're saying.

[@sophiasdreamquinnblue8977]

Think he was sold ?

[@Anna-mv4ly]

To the parents of this sweet boy, You better to tell the truth and tell everyone where his body is . There's alot of loving caring people and families who would have loved to have him and all you had to do was give him to a loving family and caring family even if someone was to as me to raise a baby i would never turn it down but you do need to let people know what you did.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@camiwilliamson9411]

@@GudJonnyCakes shut up

[@debra6513]

The police cleared Ted Bundy too, we know how that ended, the police overall are way too stupid, they have no experience what so ever, put John Douglas on this, He knows what he is doing!!

[@LizP5150]

​@@GudJonnyCakesno,they did not clear them,they just didn't have enough evidence to get them.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

@@LizP5150 witch means they are cleared

[@zzukiyaki7521]

4 adults and yet lost a 2 year old kid ... how irresponsible and sad... Hope they find the little boy.... this is really really sad....

[@kim3295]

When the parents “went to the store” they got rid of his body.

[@williamwilliams7565]

There you go

[@tanzpenhalluriack3299]

This is so sad I just hope one day the truth will come out beautiful little boy xx

[@thekukishow9571]

Absolutely heart breaking..please somebody find this little angel, bring him home so he's not alone anymore :(

[@camiwilliamson9411]

We know the sheriff thats been on this case, that little boy was NEVER at that campground. He never left Idaho Falls...he was killed or missing before they took the last minute camping trip

[@maddisonbythesea3015]

The parents hired 2 private investigation firms and both have quit and say they believe the parents were directly responsible for his disappearance. No one's stories match. The 3 family members are quick to try to blame the odd non family member along on the trip. Who by all accounts probably shouldn't have even been there. I believe one or both of the parents are responsible. Most likely Jessica. It's also highly probable that DeOrr was never even at that camp site. This link has a 6 part investigation series that's more up to date and far more inclusive. Give it a watch. www.ktvb.com/article/news/investigations/little-man-lost/suspects-named-in-disappearance-of-deorr-kunz-little-man-lost-episode-4/277-523825527

[@4Score747]

We had a 4 year old go missing last Thursday in the Forest here in Oregon. I heard the call on the Scanner, his Dad was out wood cutting. He was found with in 20 minuets. He was a little guy that wandered off a bit far. Good outcome. Poor baby 😢

[@sharonthompson7050]

Has there been any update to this? I believe the parents need investigated. The mother will not make eye contact! She keeps her head down in every interview. It just seems to me they've lied from the beginning.

[@0817sweetstacy]

I have searched on Google and sad to say I couldn't find anything. I did find another little boy who's body was found close to his home. I believe that the parents were suspect's.

[@sharonthompson7050]

@@0817sweetstacy Thank you!

[@mfeltrin1]

To ALL Canadians who live away... I just got a donair and wanted to say cheers, it's awesome... Am just starting to watch this show...

[@Fluffimuff]

So many things wrong here. The 911 call was telling. No sense of urgency or panic in the mother's voice. The fact that both parents failed multiple lie detector tests, and the mother's behavior; especially body language during press conference (looking down the entire time) ..doesn't pass the smell test.

[@conniecook8095]

Mamasgotabrandnewbag 57 It's a poor idea to be yelling and screaming when you call 911. You want to make sure the dispatcher can understand you. It's best in any emergency to stay calm.

[@Queenie4rl]

Mamasgotabrandnewbag 57 the press conference was telling something isn't right.

[@cathyveal9663]

...everything you mentioned here is either ''witchery'' Lie Detector test can't be submitted into a court of Law because they cannot detect Lies, or anything else.. and no one should ever take one... the Mothers urgency is YOUR assumption, not mine, I believe she was trying to plainly state the situation where they could get there as fast as possible and I heard quivering and this is my assumptions ..I never seen one thing accept a sadness and quietness from her everyone has different ways of dealing .. not everyone would be like you and be squalling and in the floor putting on a show for TV they might clam up when on TV.. The smell test is more on you in my opinion .. you're the type who sends innocent people to Jail for believing in Witch craft.

[@robertklimeck1918]

Cathy Veal Very well said. The assumption of innocence is a myth. It's guilty till proven innocent. I try my best to hold back judgment and put myself in the other person's shoes and at the very least, I acknowledge that in stressful situations everyone reacts differently, not to mention alot of times the person is still in shock.

[@jaktam8765]

I don't know what's wrong with the majority of people here but you can clearly hear the mothers voice shaking at 911 call. She just tries to keep it together .

[@tarashelton493]

I was watching the father in some of the videos of him speaking and if you pay attention to his head shaking no when his words say yes! The mother knows what happened as well. Everything about them is wrong!!! I can just feel it.

[@missionron]

Ping the dads phone some time before his call to 911.

[@Justiceforbabydeorr]

Let's not forget the real camp story. They say they were there, let's play with that for a sec. Coming back from the store and time to go to the creek. Isaac and Jess head to the creek with Vernal and baby behind them, however when Isaac turned back to look, dad and baby were no longer visable...didnt see them following anymore. Follwed later by Jess to Caroline that Vernal never made it to the creek, that he was by the truck with baby for approx 20min, followed by Vernal with Caroline, admitting Jess said such and tried to blow it off. You got Isaac claimimg GPA was in camper and never watching baby, and now u got Vernal driving down the rd a total of 3 times, not 2 like stated. U also got Vernal lying about talking to his dad. You also now have a previously dug spot, perfect for a cooler...right where Vernal called 911. Now u got Isaac claiming there is a missing cooler, followed by inventory claimed to have been taken to camp and inventory on what left the camp...cooler was missing. We now have a crime scene and a missing child. I think Isaac had no reason to lie and that this is a true setting at the camp. I still have a hard time thinking it all happened at camp....but what if and now u have this layout. Dont forget the washed out blood stated to be on the back wheel well/bumper and tailpipe area. What happened to our little guy and where is he now. The original story of who was supposed to be watching baby, is no longer imo plausible with what I just wrote and how dad was with baby the whole time and GPA was sleeping in his camper and missed baby getting hurt, as well as Isaac, because he was off fishing.

[@nbenefiel]

what was with the grandfather? Wasn't he watching the boy?

[@fredajordan5704]

´Nancy Benefiel : I was wondering the same thing...

[@sherrycaraway5663]

Grandfather could be coveting for his daughter so she won't go to prison. He might be lying that was taking care of the child when he disappeared.

[@gigisoglamorousipeeglitter7466]

Lisa Domagala That was very traumatic just to read! I can't imagine how you must have felt. You're absolutely correct though. That woman took your son on a bike ride that late at night and supposedly "lost track of time"? Doesn't make sense. Once it started getting dark out I would have said we better get you home. It's getting late! For that woman to claim she lost track of time is just not believable to me. At any rate, you're definitely not crazy for calling the police and panicking. Too many bad things happen every day at the hands of sickos! Always better to be safe than sorry. Don't feel guilty though. Your son was at the age where they do stuff like that. They wander off with friends. You can't have your eyes on them every second. You can run to the bathroom real quick and they'll be gone the second you close that bathroom door. Lol I understand what you're saying though. I'm glad everything turned out ok and that your son is safe and sound. That woman was a nut!

[@kellygreen8882]

@Lisa Domagala omg i was crying so hard but. . . Ya that would be scarey as ever. I am so glad your babys home ☺☺. that was the greatest story ever. . . but uh Ya, why wouldn't you be upset !!! of course you would want to pass out and die. that's aful.

[@lisamurphy4282]

Lisa Domagala well of course I HAD to respond LISA!! Lol😁 Don’t feel one iota of sorrow. I too had that experience and it’s on this thread if you want to read it - about my toddler wandering away in the blink of an eye. My heart was racing reading your comment as well. I know that familiar feeling of dread that you so distinctly described...as well as the utter euphoria when your child was found safe & sound. Our stories ended well. *i do want to acknowledge though that a particular horror re-emerged when my son became an adult. He joined the Army 2 weeks after his 18th birthday in 2003. 2 combat missions in an infantry unit. I nearly fell apart completely from utter terror. He’s out of the military now. Riddled with PTSD issues as well as loss of hearing and shrapnel scars. But it’s just a reminder. You’re always going to be a parent. Some responsibilities do fall away when they turn 18 but being there for them, loving unconditionally...and worrying never go away. If they do- you’re not doing something right. Peace 😁🦋

[@socialbuttafly1707]

One thing ALL parents who hurt their children do, is TALK a lot. True grief takes away words.

[@0817sweetstacy]

Usually true. However if it was my child I know I would be crying and a mess. I wouldn't be able to sleep eat etc.

[@rosered103]

There is something about the mother and her body language that sits uneasy with me. Mother's who lost, and I use that word with a heavy heart, a child , goes the 150 miles searching, asking, seeking. Not hiding her head or hanging it down, or not crying. They become fierce mommies. Has the little one been found yet? No. RIP with the Angel's.

[@nursey22]

The private investigator the Kunz family hired quit the case because he said he felt the parents were lying and felt charges needed to be filed against them.

[@moonlightgal7004]

poor baby

[@shannonwooters3443]

Baby Deor isnt being found at Timber Creek because he was probably Never there and its a throw off for the cops.

[@chadcobb2285]

She hides her face in shame

[@babyzizi1]

For sure. That's my take. I suppose it could be shear grief and panic it felt more like shame.

[@jovecksmith5821]

Hello...i am joveck From Austin Texas...where do you came From

[@GudJonnyCakes]

No she doesn't stop judging a book by its cover

[@onebraincellleft2563]

He probably never made it to the campsite. That’s why it was okay that so many volunteers searched the campgrounds because the parents knew he wasn’t there anyways.

[@12lilacbushes]

He keeps stating an accident.

[@CatBrash]

hmnn they probably dumped the kid somewhere in a well, kids don't just disappear. man, that's terribly sad for a toddler

[@mykingofkings1439]

Their constant praise of police in interviews is extremely concerning, think about it..... they are praising police for failing to find their son!!...This is not expected innocent people feel let down and angry at the police, the police themselves wouldn't expect praise for failing to find him... the only reason any parent would praise police for failing, is if they want the police to fail because failure to find him, gets them off.

[@x1985]

this!!

[@pdxtk]

I don’t have to think about it, I’ve lived it. Fucking small town Idaho sheriffs and their higher than average incidence of DV? Nothing to see here Krischelle Whitnah

[@twiggy8473]

*Go to 4:29 minutes into the video and look at the expression on the mom's face in the picture. She is looking at that sweet baby with anger and disgust. I also wondered (if true) why they would continually go back 4 times to see if "Isaac was home" so he could go with them? The father seems genuinely distraught whether that is because he knows, suspects, or worries that the mom has killed him or he has no idea where baby Deorr is ???

[@mattkaustickomments]

Isaac on the couch gives me the creeps. Especially his eye flicker when asking if the toddler was "happy".

[@shikanahgeddie7897]

The Mother seems real suspicious ~ always looking down, not speaking, chewing nails, not even a year and is already engaged AND THEN MARRIED to another man .We know where her priorities have been~ On her love life! .. I had a feeling about her before they even spoke out about her might being a suspect ... Poor Baby :(

[@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS]

Why is the mom not looking up?? She keeps hanging her head down. So weird.. the whole thing is weird.

[@happygoluckyperson2935]

@Zane Normonta I know right?! She is very very sad.

[@auroraroy8473]

A two year old baby should not be left alone even when sleeping.Must be always on sight of the one who's taking care of him/her.

[@cindylaug5131]

I think Grandpa had something to do with it and if so, why would he do it for himself? He was either helping the mom or the dad with this.

[@edwardalamo2507]

Illegal Drugs

[@chrissyo9669]

4 adults, no strangers in their midst and the only child get a missing. madness. parents should be more responsible.