Josh Duggar Release & Family Fallout Continues as Conspiracies & Rumors Take Hold - IBLP Exposed

[@susannahmarykenny3622]

A girl who doesn't dress modestly is a dirty girl, but Josh Duggar is forgiven 😑 these people can't be real!

[@helixmoore7636]

Becaise tjey twist scripture and believe men are 2nd in command to YeShuah

[@Justamom5512]

It’s very real and this is seen over and over again. Boys looking lustfully on girls that dress modestly in church?? Well the pastor goes and talks to the girls parents and tells them to cover up more! This was an actual scenario at the church I ran from.

[@susannahmarykenny3622]

@@Justamom5512 so abusive & toxic. I'm so sorry you had to be in that environment. Xx

[@iloveyourunclebob]

It's so absurd to me that they see themselves as "big, strong, superior men". More like weak, pathetic, petulant boys. Coddled children who have aged in body only. If Christianity is the right religion, these are the ones fulfilling their devil's goals.

[@helixmoore7636]

@@iloveyourunclebob Tjis is NOT Chriatianity.

[@elizabethmolloy3908]

The fact this man has been released on bail after hearing this is unbelievable. The justice system has failed and put those children In harms way. Period.

[@doodlebug5105]

I hear you but it’s fairly common. The children aren’t in danger, it’s his constitutional right and he hasn’t presented as a flight risk. They are monitoring him closely

[@elizabethmolloy3908]

@@doodlebug5105 I just don't agree with that one bit. Not being disrespectful with my comment. I just can't say I think he is being monitored for sure you know. It's just not a risk I would be willing to take. The stuff he had been watching was some horrific stuff. Again, just my opinion.

[@rachelanderson5608]

@@elizabethmolloy3908 I agree. Unless i am the one watching him, I don't feel it is being done right. What about when everyone goes to bed at night? He could run. I understand that he has the ankle bracelet, that can be cut off. Do these people lock him in his bedroom at night? Do they work? Do they take shifts watching? Too many variables for me. Jail is a better place for him till this is all over.

[@sueannnatter5295]

I worry about the 22 year old. I hope she is chunky enough to defend herself if need be!

[@doodlebug5105]

@@elizabethmolloy3908 I understand and get your point completely! However, in this case because of the severity of the crime I believe he won’t be able to walk to get the mail with everyone knowing. There’s so much at stake I don’t think even the most loyal friends of Jim Bib’s would risk their own livelihood. I also think the crimes he committed cross a line even for the sketchiest of humans and people do not want to align themselves with such a horrific crime .

[@pinkmissmuffett]

When i heard josh had been arrested i thought it would have been about tax evasion or money laundering. Even with his sketchy past, never in a million years did i expect he would stand accused of such a reprehensible crime. His children are the same age as the children he watched being abused. I really question the safety of his children. And while i feel for Anna, i wont have any sympathy for her if she does not leave him.

[@jadewilllow4604]

Exactly what kind of mother would be okay especially considering his past I get she brainwashed and she scared or whatever but your kids always come, Frist, the psychosocial damage those kids would have if something were to happen to them I can’t even understand why she stays she must have something wrong with her

[@pinkmissmuffett]

@@jadewilllow4604 no education, no vocational training and 6 kids to support... Sure she could get help from some agencies, but she wd lose the financial and physical /emotional support from the duggars and possibly her own family too. Regardless, she needs to leave him

[@jadewilllow4604]

@@pinkmissmuffett yes but if I was her I would risk it all to keep my children safe I’m sure she could make money from social media and maybe Amy josh cousin and Jill could help just an idea and Derrick could help sue them and get Anna money

[@candaceion9622]

@@jadewilllow4604 Anna's sister is VERY WEALTHY. Money isn't and issue.

[@dinosaurtron2586]

I'm worried that once he realizes he is really going to jail that he will do something horrible

[@charisepfahl7778]

Josh needed "real" help when he was 14 not just lectures. It is too late to change him now.

[@sarahc3295]

Yes, as a Conservative Christian whose late father was minister and whose brothers are also ministers, we ALL (in my family) believe there is ZERO human redemption left for Josh Duggar! And we've found the Duggars in general as well as the IBLP to be VERY creepy!

[@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex]

@@sarahc3295 you're a real Christian from a real Christian family. This is a cult.

[@sarahduhay5150]

@@sarahc3295 nj

[@Gree263]

Lectures & withholding food!

[@megnakamura7652]

It was probably too late when he was 14. This kind of deviance isn’t fixable.

[@prettybullet7728]

Daisy's Destruction is considered one of the worse cp videos and involves 3 children with the youngest being 18 months old. Josh needs to be put UNDER THE JAIL.

[@dianejones8749]

OMG ....That's Sick

[@prettybullet7728]

@wendy pearson Yes. He murdered the 11 year old girl. 60 minutes in Australia did a segment on this along with interviews. Peter Scully and his 2 girlfriends who participated are all locked up in the Philipines.

[@Laffy_Taphy50818]

Worst case ever

[@hawkeyifangirl]

@Beth Lorson this is litterally the feds trying to get rid of it. The dark web is like the black market- illegal content

[@angelbasham6631]

@Rose On The Moon how heartbreaking

[@theresasnyder2379]

These people are SICK. Jill & Derrick need to spill it all in their book to shut them down once & for all. Jim Bob Duggar's Kingdom needs to implode.

[@marwatson7408]

You are right they probably will I knew some day one of those kids were going to write a book. Jinger wrote her book and now Jill will too. Jim Bob and Michelle are dealing with Josh’s problems and now they are worried because their other children are starting to turn against them.

[@margaretkinnaman8585]

They can't spill the beans totally just yet I think that Jill is still under an NDA forced on her by Jim Boob.

[@priscillahorvath4487]

What is a NDA force?

[@marwatson7408]

@@priscillahorvath4487 It means Non Disclosure Agreement

[@theresasnyder2379]

@@margaretkinnaman8585 True, but what I am saying is that when the book is written that they need to be brutally honest about what went on in that house & not state things in a way that still keeps us all wondering. Spit out the TRUTH~

[@J_Honor_]

In Egypt if you assault a child, you are brought into the street and slaughtered immediately. So, it just shows how much different our legal system is compared with some places that refuse to accept hurting a child

[@michelemc9062]

Let's start a GoFundMe for Josh to take him a nice little trip to Egypt. Problem solved .

[@MelroseLifeataGlance]

I wish the US took it more seriously

[@J_Honor_]

@@michelemc9062 he was just sentenced to federal prison for a term no less than 3 30 year terms to be served CONSECUTIVELY 🤯 So 90 years in federal prison in either Arizona or Alabama or Florida.And, here's where God worked this nightmare out for his glory: within a year, 186 victims have been identified and notified and EVERYONE is DEMANDING RESTITUTION 😳🤯 Then..... Our prosecutor, Randy said INTERPOL is getting involved because a world wide child torture, pedophilia ring is currently being uncovered and hasn't stopped since last year when my sister wore a wire. So basically there were 5000 media files. 5000🤯😮😢😡😥😓 My sister is so brave and God bless my nieces please and all the nameless children, Lord Jesus you know their names and you care for every exploited child. I thank you that you turned such a messed up family tragedy and betrayal unthinkable, into finding thousands of kids. Please comfort each and every child and tell their heart, this torture will end. Lord please bless everyone who worked on this insane case and please bring my sister strength and courage. Lord, I love Charlotte and lilly with all my heart, thank you for protecting them, in the way that you chose to. I again lift up the children of the world. Give them hope. In Jesus name, amen

[@J_Honor_]

PS... I know nobody probably read that much anyway but believe it or not the story is even so much crazier than I was able to randomly decide to tell the internet. I do have his last name because he was a friend of our family for nearly 17 years and because of the trial and the sentencing and again I just I've known him since he was 15 and I was 17 and that was nearly almost 20 years ago. But yes this is a 100% true story and our prosecutor even joked that when lifetime decides to make this a movie he wants to play himself that's how insane this case is. You never know how God is going to use you your children your story for his glory

[@DarkHairedCurlyOne]

Anna thought he was a diligent worker, when in reality he hangs out in the lot watching his filth

[@retrochickt7947]

Diligently watching filth.

[@Justamom5512]

They have to say BS like that. The women can only speak good about their husbands no matter what

[@linhaton4957]

Who said Anna was intelligent? She is a foolish woman.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

That sounds like a textbook abusive marriage to me. (Not that it in any way absolves her of making her kids' well-being her #1 priority...just that it does make me have some pity & compassion for Anna, because I definitely think she was/is in an abusive marriage, and is being *heavily* coerced to stay in that marriage by her highly abusive religious community, regardless of what she might want.) I just hope that she realizes that NO truly loving deity would EVER want children (or women, or anyone) to be forced or kept in dangerous & abusive situations, and she finally makes the decision to get herself & her kids safe! If not, then I have little doubt that someday she'll have to answer for her failure to protect her family.

[@Gree263]

Let us all try to remember the real victims...these poor children who will bear these wounds forever. Josh doesn't deserve anything good or decent for the rest of his life.

[@mariakeil349]

Yes!!!

[@cherylw445]

Yup, this MUST go to trial, NO PLEA DEAL!! He must be dealt with to the full extend of the law and not even an inch shy of it.

[@dramacoma6786]

@@cherylw445 That means the jury would have to sit through watching the whole movie most likely..

[@honeybunch5765]

Luckily the 18 month old baby is back with her parents and she can't remember anything. I saw the 60 minutes Australia documentary on it a few years ago. I can't believe these videos are still available, guess there is no way of getting rid of things like that.

[@lmccauley7319]

what you said!

[@susanyee1]

Am I the only one who feels traumatized just hearing about this?

[@leeannebro4285]

I’m a little disturbed about that story about that Peter guy.

[@maryannebrown2385]

No, I am extremely freaked out.

[@lllaml07]

I wish I was but I worked for an online typing company and a majority of my work was transcribing CPS reports from various states. I had to quit after I had my son because I couldn't type that crap while my baby was sleeping next to me. Made me so nauseous.

[@MouthyMiriam]

no Im triggered all over the place... sending hugs

[@dawngepfert2636]

me too! Maybe Michelle and JB and Anna need to watch the horrific crap he's into...If that doesn't change their mind, they are as sick as he is

[@timfrieling8818]

I looked up Peter Scully and I couldn't even stomach reading thru the article it was so sick and traumatizing. I can't wait until Josh goes to prison and has to become "joyfully available"

[@renaelewis1727]

Same here...i made comment about Australia not being as bad as they portray but after some research and having a trigger moment I realised there are a lot of sick males in Australia :(

[@nikkole9951]

Same here. I could not get through the Wikipedia description of what he did. I almost threw up. As a mother of young daughters myself, it just makes me sick!

[@bunnymomjulie6719]

I could have lived my whole life without hearing about this. But it needs to be known.

[@CAMarg-zs1xq]

Yeah I almost threw up reading what he did omg

[@Mamaichi86]

Yes yes and yes

[@KD-oc7qk]

Who else thinks because josh is the “tech” guy in the family, the real reason he’s daddy’s favorite is because he is able to cover up JBs internet footprint as well?

[@janetturner1931]

That’s a very good theory and more than likely TRUE! The truth be told Jim Bob creeps me out. I keep seeing the clip of Jim Bob helping Michelle play mini golf and right in front of his daughter, he says in a very creepy way. “Does this turn you on”. That’s so disgusting and disturbing!

[@Gimpinalong]

So technologically savvy yet used the same password Anna had access to doesn’t seem very savvy... I don’t think this should be overlooked.

[@honestytoafault]

Most people who have this depravity and are really tech savvy... at up a perimeter, so if their computer is removed from where it is.... the hard drive fries and is NOT recoverable. So the perv isn't as tech savvy as he thinks

[@sueallen7750]

Gil Bates can literally take a short walk off a long pier. Disgusting jaded P O S

[@danataylor9507]

@@honestytoafault he probably didn't think he would get caught.

[@nina-mariebarr6425]

The reason he takes pics of his desk, screen to prove to Anna is actually at the car lot office.

[@lacey892]

Welp now it's going to prove that he was downloading CSAI, so jokes on him lol what absolute garbage

[@marcosmota1094]

Jost WOW. Cray cray life that these people live...I'll take my Japanese pRn kink, to his wackiness.

[@brittany6818]

Maybe he had to post his pic to access the dark web..she said he 'blacked out' his wife and kids from the pic..maybe he liked that pic of himself enough to use it, seems narcissistic like that..and stupid too, using the same password for his banking, Instagram and dark web torrents..wow

[@greatflix4u505]

Seems as though she had seven kids before she became pregnant with her 7th(babysitting Josh).

[@zahrakassam2559]

@@brittany6818 no, the cops blocked out the family while showing the evidence

[@saraaaa8642]

This is just so traumatizing to say the least. And the fact that josh was released makes me even more sick. And people need to stop telling anna to wake up because she is never going to leave and the fact that she is staying with him after all of this is proof of that. The only people I feel sorry for are the kids in the videos and josh & anna's kids.

[@xzAllisonxz]

Exactly, Anna isn't a victim, she's an enabler. She's just as guilty and should also be arrested and her kids taken away!!!

[@dramacoma6786]

I guess you keep missing the parts where Katie has repeatedly talked about how women have no say in this cult..

[@elizabethlarochelle8605]

She has been convinced it is all her fault. Had she been better it wouldn't have happened. She has to stay to redeem herself before God.

[@brendatroy2843]

The whole IBLP SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN and everyone involved in this IBLP ALL SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW

[@jill8037]

@@dramacoma6786 It's hard to say if a mother's instinct to save her children can override the teachings of the cult.

[@teritrotter9561]

I used to love watching the Duggars and admire their faith in God. Now I think Jim Bob Duggar is disgusting. No man has a right to control another person. I am a Christian and a strong willed woman as are almost all the women in my family. The men in our family are great Christian leaders in our family and encourage us to speak our minds. Not one person in my family would ever condone and cover up the type of things the Duggars have covered up for Josh. As much as we all love each other, any one of us would turn the other into law enforcement for doing what Josh has done and I'd accused of doing. A true Christian should respect the laws of the land as well as God's laws. God directs us to do that. God gave us technology/medical knowledge, we should seek it out when appropriate. If you are uncomfortable seeking out therapy with a secular therapist there are licensed Christian psychiatrists and PHD psychologists go to them. The Duggars have a very warped sense of what and how a good Christian should behave

[@kathycampbell4381]

Amen!

[@susanbarnhart7310]

I watched them all the time, now, I can't believe that JB is so bad

[@kathycampbell4381]

I know, I always thought they was just good ole Christians Never ever would I have thought for a second they would cover up what josh did and what they did to there beautiful sweet daughters. Just slap sad and awful. I'm a Christian and never ever would hide or cover up such an EVIL act!! God help those girls to overcome what happened to them.

[@susanbarnhart7310]

@@kathycampbell4381 all we can do is pray for the victims and for Justice. I hope this trial is going to be on t.v

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

I'm not a Christian myself, but I have extensively studied Christian scripture & practice...and I cannot agree with you more! IMHO, you and others like you represent the true intent of Christianity, and it's disgusting to me that people like Josh and his ilk are portrayed by the media as representing Christians in general.

[@indieme7633]

Maybe josh keeps smiling because this is way bigger than we realize with more people involved. Maybe he’s not the only one that will go down in all of this. There seems to be a lot of pervs in this group of people.

[@Boces1988]

Maybe he's smiling because he knows hes gonna get away with it. He's gotten away with this so many times. Its obvious he's being protected by some powerful people

[@mel11956]

Yes there are. I read where there are more involved in this cult than any other religion.

[@cuppasilverbullets]

That’s what I’m thinking 🤔

[@pinkiesue849]

@@Boces1988 I think you are on to something.

[@Gree263]

@@mel11956 Really? You mean IBLP? Wow...

[@jpthefav2955]

Why doesn’t TLC completely cut ties with Jim Bob and Michelle, then negotiate with John David and Abbie for a show about their family life. I would love to see them on their own.

[@kristagerry8505]

Money!

[@ashlieleavelle]

Because JB and M are not responsible for his actions. He is a grown adult in his 30s. Josh makes his choices. Parents can't control adult children.

[@brendaenglish2477]

I don’t mine John David or Abbie. I just think so following them would be like watching paint dry he’ seems to so quiet and dull

[@amberpicchi6861]

Me too, John David seems to be a very nice guy ans seems to have a great sense of humor but Abby seems very boring. Thats why they are so great together.

[@gsmith6026]

It’s past time to just cut ties with the whole family. It’s time for TLC to go back to being The Learning Channel, like they used to be years ago. Now it is all about peering into the lives of other people.

[@donnaridge9810]

How can he be allowed to see his children? Someone besides Anna needs to be present.

[@brendatroy2843]

I agree with you Donna , if the court allowed her visitations, it should be with a social worker appointed by the court as supervised visits

[@honeybunch5765]

I know, at least have child protection with her. ANna is an idiot, he comes first in her life and then the kids.

[@mienafriggstad3360]

FYI someone besides Anna does need to be present. One of the court releases conditions is that he must always be in the presence of 1 of the 3 people he has been released into the custody of; or a law enforcement officer.

[@honeybunch5765]

@@mienafriggstad3360 I think an officer or social worker should always be present regardless who the others are. Anna is so under his thumb, she has no control.

[@amberpicchi6861]

Agreed. They need to do visits at a public place/ center/courthouse. I know people thst have custody battles and the other parent has to do it this way and they aren't child predators. But this callous judge is allowing him unaccessed visitation with his kids with Anna present at home? This is not going to end up good. Anna's a fool. No sympathy or pity. She will allow and obey him anything.

[@tangerinefizz11]

I've heard that Maria Reber said that she feels uncomfortable about Josh being around her 22-year-old daughter.

[@tangerinefizz11]

@@Dulcimertunes Unfortunately, in that that cult, the husband always has the final say.

[@elizabethgrogan8553]

I felt sick listening to his charges. Gil Bates won't comment because he knows the damage this will do to his cult. Listening to JB Duggar was astonishing. He & Shelly have spent their lives protecting their girls from having impure thoughts. Now they'll have to explain Josh's filthy behaviour. That won't win him fans. TLC must cancel the show immediately. I'll bet they are busy meeting with lawyers to discuss the possible cases against them. This is the straw that broke TLC's back. No more programmes which feature children would be a smart move.

[@julieklie2344]

Are Gils kids still in the cult? They seem “not quite as funny”.

[@julieklie2344]

..Fundy!

[@suzh7301]

@@julieklie2344 They seem to be fundy lite. They still go to the same type of churches, yet the women are wearing pants, starting businesses and they maybe all don't agree with having quite so many children. None of them have left the religion however.

[@Alice.saidit]

Let’s hope it’s “19 years and counting”

[@chocolatechipcookieface3668]

No please more tv that’s the only way of exposing themselves! If you look at all the indictments from reality tv stars. I’d stay tv is like the bait car operation that catches the car thief criminals!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

[@unicorn5798]

Why do I feel like he’s not going to be able to stick to his conditions of release.

[@kristydillon3923]

I think the judge knows this and is setting him up for failure.

[@mariakeil349]

I feel the same way

[@Gree263]

He's addicted. How do most addicts do without hitting rock bottom? Josh hasn't come close to that yet. His smirking proves it.

[@rubenrisse]

@@kristydillon3923 same, I felt it was a set up, by giving in to Jim Bob’s manipulative move to have this family babysit him. I hope he’s caught violating the terms ASAP, so he can stay in jail indefinitely.

[@slikkblakk6621]

If he hasn’t touched his own kids before, now there is a good chance he will! And I pray not! All it’s going to take is for Anna to stay overnight with the kids and her dumb ass knock out! The judge shouldn’t for any reason let him have contact visits with his children!! The court is putting those kids in harm way and THEY KNOW IT!! It’s SICK!!

[@LP-uu4df]

Anna is sadly delusional. She can't get around her own belief system to accept reality. Possibly the children aren't safe with her either. Truly sad and tragic all around for this family.

[@jadewilllow4604]

Yes where is cps they should not be allowed to see him without an officer or a cps worker present

[@whitney2042]

@@jadewilllow4604 CPS is likely involved but there will not be commentary about that until the investigation is done or the children are removed to protect their privacy.

[@LP-uu4df]

Advise to Anna - get a grip before JB and Shelly petition the court for custody of those kids because you're not perceived to be dealing in reality. Don't let JB do any bidding for you either. Get some independent counsel

[@jadewilllow4604]

@@LP-uu4df I highly doubt the court would let Michelle and jb get a hold of them considering the whole josh thing yk but maybe do they even have enough bed rooms cause isn’t there one girls room and a boys rooms

[@llnw5600]

I think she knows exactly what is/was going on. And is too selfish and lazy to get out and work and do WHATEVER it takes to protect her children.

[@karil.8650]

He was obviously escalating. I hope they lock him up before he follows through with what he was watching. I'm glad he was caught.

[@ImKTWallen]

He might have already acted out on it but it hasn’t been publicly known yet.

[@glendalanden2916]

Yes, they most always go from watching to doing it. However he started doing some things, to watching more intense things. It's been in his head a very long time

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

As a libertarian feminist pro-choice secular Jewish 2nd amendment rights advocating "dirty girl" mom, I was literally cheering out loud when Katie described their use of the Gadsden flag as "hijacking" it!! The people who originally designed that flag would be horrified at what it's now being used to communicate. (But then, I'm honestly kinda surprised they still use the American flag, considering it was originally designed by- gasp!- a woman! I mean, wasn't Betsy Ross a defiant, unfeminine, opinionated Jezebel by their standards??) These people DO NOT REPRESENT people like me, and I'm thoroughly disgusted, sickened, repulsed & horrified that they would or could EVER try to claim that *anything* they stand for could be defined as "liberty" or "freedom!" Freedom & liberty are concepts that apply to EVERYONE...not just people you happen to agree with!

[@misbellesmith9310]

My heart goes out to the officers and investigators who have to look at this unspeakable material in the process of prosecuting Josh. I can't imagine how this is affecting them. If I was an officer I couldn't do it.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Agreed. When I became a parent I actually had to switch career paths because I realized I was no longer able to deal with anything involving hurting children. Anyone who is willing to do such work in order to protect kids is a bona fide hero in my books!

[@valerietheawkwardartist]

That would be a hard job. I used to binge watch Law and Order before binge watching was a common term. After I had my first child I couldn't watch anymore. Especially Special Victims Unit.

[@judyhanson1276]

Me

[@judyhanson1276]

Me

[@judyhanson1276]

He needs to worry about making me happy

[@saralock3053]

I said 5 years ago that he would escalate. He’s never been held accountable ever. I knew since he’s such a arrogant narcissist, he wouldn’t stop.

[@clairefisher3132]

Pedophiles continue to offend until they die. Every single one, no matter how much time served will continue to offend the minute he/she has access to more children. There’s a doc on KZbin by BBC on pedophiles, it is highly disturbing and I had to watch small sections at a time bc it was so awful, but many of them talk about how they couldn’t wait to have kids of their own so they could offend whenever they want. Those (actually ALL) children need to kept away from him.

[@grateful9181]

So let me get a straight. The couple that are taking care of him are responsible for monitoring what he does, feeding him, doing his laundry, etc.? Also his wife when he was at home was responsible for monitoring him? This whole picture is wrong! Why is the responsibility not put on him? Talk about enabling.

[@dramacoma6786]

The same couple on the cult that pushes not getting authorities involved And women have no say. So technically if he does something around Anna it's not her choice to report him..

[@explaincauseidontgetit3294]

Exactly, if his wife is unable to hold him accountable, and he doesn’t want live a better life for his kids, why in the world would he be straight with some random strangers?

[@laurendecarlo7559]

To picture Anna still being joyfully available for Josh right now is just disturbing. The judge allowing this type of release where he had so much privacy must in some way have an attachment to this cult

[@INSHERRYSOPINION]

I bet there getting paid out the ass for keeping him. I wouldn’t do it. He should be sitting in jail being bubbas bitch.

[@INSHERRYSOPINION]

Hello I’m a Dirty girl and I say let the prisoners have him.

[@Timbergal]

The things he downloaded are absolutely horrific. I have only read the descriptions , but my stomach turned and my heart broke at the suffering of the little children.clearly Josh has deep problems and will not be ‘cured’ of this sickness.

[@MountainPearls]

I have no words. Dear God, leave Anna! TLC, JB, and Michelle need to be held accountable for this.

[@chocolatechipcookieface3668]

This means the cult is protecting Josh . The fact that ppl from the Iblp cult is baby sitting Josh tells it all!

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

The rebers are not associated with the iblp

[@chocolatechipcookieface3668]

Oh. Ok I was under the impression it was a cult member. Thanks so much for responding I appreciate the interaction.🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰

[@iTerabithia]

I feel bad for Anna. Everything she has ever been told to have a happy life she has done and it’s definitely backfired. Hopefully she wakes up

[@patriciawhite1206]

I feel bad for all these girls and woman stuck ..

[@honeybunch5765]

Yeah the brainwashing is deep and dark.

[@mariakeil349]

At my mother in law’s church one Sunday someone passed out & they didn’t call 911 they took him to a room & prayed over him. These people are crazy

[@sheraria]

😲

[@mariakeil349]

@@sheraria yep!!

[@melylamash]

Something like that happened at my mom’s church, but instead of just taking the lady out and praying over them, A couple of the legitimately certified nurses made sure she was OK in a separate room, and then they sent her to the hospital. I mean the church prayed for her, but while she was getting help....

[@mariakeil349]

@@melylamash that’s how it should be done!!

[@yutgorpotungyun]

It so disturbing how Michelle almost never stray her eyes off her hubby during his speech. It’s like so inense

[@pinkiesue849]

more like idol worship.

[@amberpicchi6861]

I think she is the brains. She is so calculated in her speech. I think he is just a mouthpiece. She seems like she is not the kind, Godly woman she portrays. Look into her eyes.. not anything good in her. Its all a show

[@honestytoafault]

She is so fake. I cant listen to her. Her voice is fake and she opens her eyes really big when she is talking.... which is a trait of a pathological liar.

[@greenfairy4894]

It is so weird!!!

[@jeanneconatzer5230]

He needs to be locked up for life. Anna needs to smell the roses and wake up. God help open up her eyes and get away from this family. She needs to save her kids and herself. God help josh. He still needs to be put away. His mind is sick.

[@julieklie2344]

No cure, not even castration , but it’s a start!!!

[@DuhDee]

She needs to smell the coffee cause obviously the roses are still not waking her up

[@lilacscentedfushias1852]

@@julieklie2344 I can think of a very inexpensive ‘cure’ for people who do that. A leopard doesn’t change its’ spots. I’m allergic to apples, apples are a no go. But I still crave apples. Apart from what scum people do to children it’s the same concept. Their ‘want’ I want to vomit writing that, doesn’t go away. If it’s a person who can really stop themselves and have people constantly monitoring & kept away from children...maybe. But someone like him who always gets what he wants, he’s put on a pedestal, he’s told he is number one, his wife is always below him, he’s a narcissist plus more, I’m not an expert. He didn’t even hold his head in shame leaving the court

[@helixmoore7636]

His mind is evil. Sprry but I wish people would stop using the word sick.for this. Some people are just plain evil.

[@D_Parks]

God hasn’t helped Anna or Josh in the past. But you’re hoping he will now?

[@CoffeeLover-mz7bk]

Wow. I would not have the foggiest idea how to access the dark web. It sounds like Josh was determined.

[@Morgansmom1111]

The prosecutor said in the hearing . Josh is excellent with computers. Knows how to take them apart put them together very very educated on computers. He downloaded the two software that allowed him to do this . The first one was the porno software where He could download these pictures. The other one was a software download it to the hard drive where he could hide all of his pictures and Anna couldn’t them.

[@La_Ru-yg8es]

It's not super difficult to access, but there's nothing there I would personally need it for. 😬

[@melissapenrod5005]

When Michelle said "we praise in public and correct in private" she didn't add that's because they'd lose a lot of fans if people knew what they do

[@gsmith6026]

When I found out what “blanket training “ was, I was sick to my stomach.

[@margaretkinnaman8585]

In other words, Moochelle is defrauding people.

[@Brooke1084]

Anna should not be trusted to watch him around his own children.... So many mothers who are so persistent to stay in awful relationships like Anna is, just sit back and watch their spouse do awful things to the children. I can see that being something that happens in this family. THESE CHILDREN NEED PROTECTION.

[@jennijennifer5129]

I can't wrap my head around how Anna and the Duggar parents, after hearing what Josh was doing on his computer, can still feel supportive of him. Did they have earplugs in court.

[@patwolf3518]

Jim Bob, Michelle, Anna, jessa and Ben should have to actually watch 2 minutes of what he down loaded. They said they want truth, give them the truth. They raised a beast that's truth!

[@Annette1965]

@@patwolf3518 Joyanna said the same thing, waiting for the truth to come to light. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤮

[@michaelbezanis1810]

They all need to have good mental health care!!!! Josh needs to rot in jail.....bunch of sickos....they also need to stop having babies....god knows what they had to endure 😥

[@9livesmatter692]

Thank you SO much for your comprehensive research and delivery of the info we want and need to know. This situation is so awful but I'm so glad we can all discuss here while being informed.

[@allisonbracken1372]

Josh has to take the random photos of his work desk to prove that he is there. Someone is making him check in and prove he is where he says he is.

[@Gree263]

Good point, Katie, about the trauma this would cause for all in the courtroom.

[@LMaeCook]

I’m so tired of the “devil made me do it” attitude. No accountability!

[@helixmoore7636]

Exactly. GOD expects ypu to be 100% accountable.

[@KL-tz3cm]

Michelle staring at Jim Bob while he’s speaking is like watching a number 1 fan about to go unhinged and go insane because she’s so in love with everything he is saying!

[@Annette1965]

It’s sickening! I can’t stand either one of them. I stopped watching Counting On when the brought them back on. It should’ve never happened. They chose that nasty piece of crap 💩 over their daughters and blamed them for what he did to them! It wouldn’t surprise me if jb messed with his daughters also. He’s such a perv*rt! 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

[@jerisharpe906]

That is the craziest theory I've heard so far. Are these some of the people that believe the earth is flat?

[@joannaparrott514]

Funny I didn't hear him say what kind of man a woman should stay away from.

[@CatherineShoresHMN]

Good point.

[@reneematlock9657]

There *will* be a trial. He doesn't *care* about anyone else's trauma so he's going to be demanding a full trial - even if it causes lifelong trauma for everyone else in that courtroom.

[@Smag-wm4bx]

I guarantee they will do a "Plea Deal" this WILL NOT Go TO TRIAL, Duggars WILL NOT have this exposed at all.. how dare they show The Bates. Or anyone in their cult what Josh has done..GUARANTEED!! By doing a plea they can continue to hide what was Really on the computer. Anna will never be seen the pictures and the story of 'someone else' did it Will continue. Anna will be sheltered once again by JB cover. The DuggarS did their homework &have saught out the BEST attorneys for THESE types of crimes, (paid for by show$ JB POCKETED) remember the kids haven't received their money owed to THEM for being on the show ..EVEN "COUNTING ON"..JB HAS KEPT IT ALL and picks & chooses which children are in HIS favor to share with.

[@marydeane7278]

Anna will wake up when he goes to jail, and later down the road when her children alienate her for standing by Josh. Therapy is lost to this family due to his parents firm hold on Anna. Sad situation. A tiger does not change its stripes. It is in the law hands now and I pray they do the right thing. Poor children in those photos, as well as his own kids.

[@allisonherman2013]

And Jim bob has to be involved much more than anyone thinks.

[@mel11956]

Certainly agree. He's neck deep in the muck.

[@allisonherman2013]

I just don’t see how they let him out on JB accord basically. This situation is just horrible. So sickening. I wish I could say a lot worse on here.

[@reneegoodin1317]

@@allisonherman2013 ASBOLUTELY

[@Gree263]

For lack of a better word, AMEN!

[@kimc555]

Oh JB knows about all of this.

[@karenkingrey6142]

You know, I have to wonder about JB too. The more I hear him speak.....the more I wonder what has gone on behind their doors as well.

[@suegillettful]

Considering that Josh isn't exactly thin, he must not be doing much fasting.

[@honeybunch5765]

He obviously sits infront of the computer a lot, not much exercise.🤢

[@Annette1965]

Clearly, constantly has unpure thoughts while eating McDonalds!

[@karengray5298]

Everyone says that Anna needs to wake up. Well, if she blames Jim Boob, and Michelle for the way they handled his past, then she's fully awake and aware of what he's done. I believe she's so brainwashed it truly doesn't matter what Josh does, she will NEVER leave him. She just won't, it's not even in her thought process. I read a comment yesterday that said Josh could do something to one of his kids right in front of her, and she would still protect him, and I believe that. He comes first in her life. She has made that perfectly clear. Those kids should be taken from her until she gets some real help, or at least gets evaluated.

[@shannonbrice8012]

If the answer to everything is Prayer, it sure didn't stop Josh from cheating, cheating and abusing another woman and now having CP. I am surprised they haven't done an exorcism on Josh to get rid of Satan that is controlling him.

[@lanidickson758]

He definitely needs deliverance, he probably has a legion of demons! And he is feeding them all with this vile CP!

[@darlenebatts6860]

Josh needs to be locked away so he cant be around any child ever !! Hes a sick man.. I think JB is hiding a lot about himself.. Anna should file for a Divorce, pack the kids up and move away.. If she truly loves her children she would!! This makes me sick !!

[@lorenasire2617]

When you look at Anna's instagram you see how hard she is working to create this wonderful family. She has followed all the rules and is waiting to reep the benefits of her hard work. As much as this group upholds the sanctity of marriage- at what point can the wife say that she has done all she can and her husband has not been the spiritual leader that he promised to be?

[@WindsofChange]

That's so funny, he's having to check in with his wife like a teenager. She doesn't trust him either clearly (though I'm guessing this has to do with his infidelity....she only wishes that was the worst thing.)

[@judyrobertson5564]

Anna should take a long look at Josh’s smug shot. He enjoys the attention and knows daddy has his back.

[@didirobert3657]

Katie, the Duggars need to realize that you can't pray the perv away, just like you can't pray the gay away!

[@Heidirclark]

So- when my husband and I got married, we were young and in the middle of this same crazy conservative culture in NW Arkansas that the Duggers were in. Not a part of the same cult but the influence was the same and huge. I was literally given the same “marriage tapes” that JB gave Josh before he got married. 🤢 Holy cow I could get into this but I think I need to process it first. I didn’t even see it *this clearly* before this last week and what you have said even today. Minds blown. Thank God my husband and I have moved to “secular” Colorado and have grown so much away from this toxic area. We even voted for Biden (gasp!) and think for ourselves. 😂 Man. I think we may need some PTSD counseling still from our cult influences. Good lord. I’m not sleeping tonight.

[@CatchTheFishy93]

18 minutes in and I'm just...wow. 18 month olds? 12 year olds? Put this man away for ever. This is probably one of the most triggering videos you've posted. No slight to you, you are thorough in your research, but damn. I'll never understand how people can do let alone watch that sort of content :[

[@mel11956]

An in-law suite?? Has it rough doesn't he??

[@laurendecarlo7559]

Seems like a lot of privacy and not being watched 24/7

[@doodlebug5105]

@@laurendecarlo7559 feel confident he’s being watched 24/7

[@pinkiesue849]

That smug little perv.

[@armystitch4]

If he loves his wife at all he will make a plea. If he loves his wife at all he will not want his wife to see what he was looking at that will come out if it goes to trial. Guess we'll see if he loves his wife. I don't think he does. I don't think fasting can stop hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and hormones they're idiots but I grew up in that world so I know. Always Joyfully Dirty.

[@kimsharp6356]

You have had one hell of a week. Happy Mother’s Day Sunday.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Thank you! You too!

[@jill4310]

It amazes me that all these people follow a man who never got married, and never had kids!

[@jennifergeorge7280]

Well, you don't have to have experienced something to be knowledgable about it or to be an effective teacher. There are, however, many over reasons to not follow the man.

[@tangerinefizz11]

@@jennifergeorge7280 Bill Gothard doesn't even have any qualifications as mental health professional, though. Not only is he a perverted cult leader, he is a know-nothing.

[@torimartorana2158]

This is disgusting and under Megan’s law, if Josh violates the conditions he would get fifteen additional years

[@jadewilllow4604]

Honestly I hope he does just so he gets an extra 15 years

[@kristydillon3923]

I think the judge is banking on this. This is the perfect setup for failure!

[@jadewilllow4604]

@@kristydillon3923 yes but what would josh have to do in order to get the 15 years I’m still lost on Megan law and stuff

[@jadewilllow4604]

@@kristydillon3923 and maybe it is a set up if so the judge is smart if he gets 20 years plus that 15 that would be a happy day

[@CatherineShoresHMN]

I think all he has to do is ask for the internet password & that’s a violation.

[@helloeliza]

Thank you for reporting on this. There have been soooooo many people making KZbin videos about him. But the other 2 I watched had so much misinformation. You’re my one stop Duggar tea channel! Thanks for doing so much research! x

[@ginjam10]

If Anna does not leave Josh, she needs to loose custody of their children. I would like my husband to try, just one time, and make rules for me to follow. Ha ha ha! God can forgive Josh. However Anna needs to leave Josh. He should never be trusted around children again.

[@indieme7633]

It sounds like josh had direct links to the videos and images. I do believe there’s more people involved in this.

[@jennifergeorge7280]

Hard to know what going on in the dark web but I also think so

[@Gimpinalong]

Anyone else find it strange he used a password Anna had? It comes across as, ‘she’ll never find it so it won’t matter and if she does find it I can claim I wasn’t hiding because it’s a shared password’ the other oddity is.... if it’s a shared password...you’d have to feel very secure the others who have the password won’t find the partition-or he’s beyond screwed..... unless those who have the password are in on it somehow. I don’t want to think that... 🤦‍♀️ but i don’t think it’s wise to ignore it without question.

[@dianavargas9902]

I feel sorry for him, I’m not religious but he really thought he could fix his son :(

[@sunmoonstars0369]

Dude probably gets off on lying and barely getting caught.

[@Annette1965]

@@dianavargas9902 he should have tried harder when he first started m0lesting his sisters rather than wait for the statue of limitations ran out then taking him to a cop who was a family friend to report it. Said cop is in prison for the same thing the POS was arrested for.

[@alieshasalisbury1453]

Most federal trials get continued at least 3 to 4 times. Even if he does plan to plea, he’ll probably drag this out as long as he can because he’s on bond.

[@no1pinkjellybean]

The sign "Vacancy" next to Jim Bob's head, is that a joke from God? 🤭

[@jlcollins7673]

How can they watch him 24/7 if he is in his own little "mil suite"?

[@mienafriggstad3360]

He isn't allowed a phone or computer ect in it. Only allowed to use his phone and visit people including Anna under supervision.

[@ambernichols3317]

He can have a phone but one that cant hook up to the internet and not computer

[@ucmom123]

I though the same thing. I thought 24/7 meant he actually had to be watched at all times.

[@tippymb]

Maybe Annacshould be forced to watch this evil stuff to make her aware of her husband’s sickness.

[@CAMarg-zs1xq]

She should be Forced to listen to stories about survivors

[@shmoppetrocks]

No one should ever see any of it. Ever!! If Josh watching it himself is sick, then Forcing Anna to watch it is even more so.

[@Annette1965]

She already thinks Biden put it there! She will never believe that he does anything wrong.

[@GeorgeGlass298]

New drinking game every time Katie says dirty girl take a drink 😂

[@greatflix4u505]

Lol. 1st thing that came to mind was Frasiers episode"Dirty Girl".

[@guitarforlife238]

i’m sober. what happened?

[@pokelasskara8865]

Listening to Jim Bob speak you realize he’s actually not saying anything. Just some confused statements sprinkled in with Christianese to make it sound like he has a point. I also love the disconnect him saying the devil causes Josh to sin, ignoring that in the Bible god gave people free will. A person always has a choice regardless of what satan is doing. The lack of personal accountability is mind boggling.

[@xPeckhamm]

I have not finished this video (will momentarily) but I wanted to give you credit because I did watch your recap of the bail hearing and got curious so I tried to find a transcript of it. I found something on Reddit and read that too, your retelling of the hearing was 100% spot on. Don’t discredit yourself! ❤️❤️

[@HippyMiMi]

My husband wasn't a part of Ashley Madison, my husband doesn't watch P or CP none of that. And I'm not quite so there lol. We are Christians too. This cult is crazy!

[@bunnymomjulie6719]

Oh, I'd fail that cult for sure. Pass the Cheetos and my iPhone, please! Oh, and I decided I'm not cooking either.

[@nancybrown2609]

I love the way you present this very difficult material; it’s just heartbreaking what happens to these little children. I was so glad to hear they caught the guy doing that awful stuff and the President of the country wanted to use the death penalty! I was really glad they rescued most of these young victims! You handle a very difficult topic with great care, especially for the victims of this horrific crime. Keep up the good work!!

[@k.a5765]

I accidentally learned about the file josh downloaded few years ago when I stumbled on a KZbin video. When I tell I didn’t sleep for days. It’s to the point that the name daisy is so triggering. Josh and any person who finds pleasure in that file is nasty and vile person. I want to keep up on this case but I can’t continue hearing about that file. I pray for all those babies.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

It's horrible. I barely slept the night of the hearing. If this were to go to trial, I would not be able to attend. I just would not be able to handle it.

[@veroncasi3689]

Can you tell us name of video you saw or name of yet channel?

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

@@veroncasi3689 there is actually a 60 minutes from Australia - if you type into search Peter Scully 60 minutes Australia - you should find it

[@k.a5765]

@@veroncasi3689 the video I saw is by horror stories and it’s call Peter scully the creator of DD. Sorry I won’t write the name of the file because it’s too triggering. The video is short but it gets to the point. The one Katie posted is longer and more details. Beware looking this up

[@helixmoore7636]

Pure evil. Death penalty imho if guilty. Ehich I think he is

[@Mom-Mimi]

You know damn well if he’s watching this he’s doing this to his own children! Those poor sweet innocent little girls 💔💔💔

[@PK-mm8zc]

ABSOLUTELY!!! He would NOT have discriminated between boys or girls.♥️

[@burninbridges1by162]

How could he not have been? Castration should apply to abusera like this.

[@emmygirl1876]

The fact that he asked the feds if they were there because of CP tells a lot. He needs to be thrown under the jail. I can see Anna allowing him to be with the kids getting caught. I hope she realizes she can go to jail for breaking an order.

[@adyladestark2365]

Did JB & Michelle here the charges? I mean how could they still protect him knowing the full extent of his depravity.

[@abibliophobe2731]

Maybe their involved more than we know. I mean, who even knows. They covered when he molested his sisters so it's not surprising

[@Annette1965]

The parents and Anna are involved in hiding assets. Anna had too sign the documents to put everything in her name so the Feds wouldn’t take it, that’s why they sold the house and are living in the warehouse on the property. But, in the paperwork from the feds, states if they find out he was hiding assets they would take it anyway. The parents and Anna should be charged for covering up evidence.

[@heidimeinert9993]

I'm a survivor and I want to tell my story to the world via your channel

[@atlramona]

A few Duggar boys were groomsmen for the Reber’s son. Mr and Mrs Reber don’t know Pest, but know JB and Michelle. Mr Reber has worked in prison ministry and why JB asked him.

[@TheREALMaximan]

I’m a Christian and I’m disgusted by what Gill says about women 🤢

[@kimc555]

Thank you Katie for reporting all this for us.

[@leighannwagor5037]

Katy I messaged you corrections. Carlin and Evan bought the SUV in July 2020. The Versa was bought for her wedding, I believe. Evan uses it for work and home.

[@kaitlyndavis6840]

I was going to correct the same thing. I follow Carlin’s KZbin page. They have a video of them picking up the SUV.

[@leighannwagor5037]

@@kaitlyndavis6840 when they mentioned the car, (I was there too) Afterwards, I went back, and wanted a timeline from her. I just didn’t do my search on Bringing up Bates yet.

[@annachristie377]

Has a single Duggar even gone into the military? But yet they have all those flags 😂😂😂😂

[@llnw5600]

Of course not.

[@gigiof10]

The Bates have not connection to Joshua Duggar's actions .Josh is responsible for his own actions. No trying to lay blame at anyone's feet but his own.

[@ginaordonez9371]

I agree. But the IBLP created the cultural environment, that keeps the victims of SA silent. And Gill is on the Board.

[@llnw5600]

But they are still evil,dangerous and horrible if they believe the insanity on that video. That Bates guy is disgusting.

[@LS-ux3th]

Omg I never realized that the jury would have to view the content 🤢

[@D_Parks]

Seriously? You thought that the jury would decide on his guilt or innocent based on what? Their imagination??

[@LS-ux3th]

@@D_Parks no I just never thought about it

[@girlwithluvvv]

Do they not understand that if you FORBID a teen to do something and look at things so natural - they will end up deprived and eventually spiral?

[@Boces1988]

There's no way anyone in their right mind would let this man get bailed out after what he did. The judge and the district attorney were probably paid off by the duggar family. There are very powerful people protecting this man

[@ericaespinosa4030]

It's possible. I mean she is a new judge. Who appointed her?

[@melaniemiesner7492]

Don’t tread on me is not alt right. It’s for humans who believe in and support the 2nd amendment.

[@leandradozier968]

It recently has been adopted by them. This is well known.

[@heathercrews4957]

Katie have you ever seen the video of Josh giving people instructions before Jill's wedding. He just seems to have first born complex.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Yep I have definitely seen that

[@avakate7747]

If there’s ANY info about the Duggar’s Katie knows it! She should have a masters degree in Cults with her dissertation done on the Duggar’s!

[@sarahc3295]

Troll Hunter whose studied such stuff... "DEFINITELY!"

[@lilacscentedfushias1852]

I didn’t but I can imagine it, he’s got so much praise from those 2 (ugh) m look at him like she does jb! Makes me wonder if he’d been allowed to look at women and girls his age, remember the Nike code for look down if any female flesh was on show? Maybe if he could have looked and wasn’t told it was a sin. But to be respectful, nothing wrong in thinking she’s pretty and look at whatever, but don’t stare at respect her. Unless you’re invited to touch dont. It’s fine to start a conversation but keep it non creepy. Might he not have been what he is? I’m absolutely not standing up for him or any of those scum bags. Heather, I just saw your comment again and I could just see him ordering people around, m & jb singing his praises 🤮 in the weird was m in particular does.

[@helixmoore7636]

He has evil.complex.

[@rachelway8913]

They want SO badly for their children to never make any wrong choices. Partially because they love them and partially because THEY don’t want to look bad. A big part of this cult is trying to look perfect in every way. So they created a suffocating culty bubble with all these rules and expectations. The product of that is ignorant kids who JB and Michelle feel they have to monitor as freaking adults. That is the bed that they made for themselves..because they never taught them how to navigate the real world. Some of them are figuring it out ok and some of them obviously are not. It’s sad.

[@kittykat3266]

I'm very happy I decided to revisit this channel and resubscribe...I stepped away amidst all the drama and fallout over the last several months...I'm just not into the personal beefs and bashing that KZbinr's sometimes get into...But Joy is back and better then ever....Thanks Joy !!! Excellent content !!!

[@danamaria80]

I agree! I could care less about drama among creators. But she’s really put in the work on this. Just heard her talk about the judge’s LinkedIn account. She is ALL over this story.

[@kittykat3266]

@@danamaria80 You're right Dana...her commitment and focus now are right on point...Have a great day !!!

[@kimceriko]

Is there somewhere where we could find the transcripts?

[@BC_Mina]

I want to see Sara Huckabee comment on this allegation lol

[@kqualls76]

I love your channel. I used to watch the duggers show on TLC years ago and they weirded me out. I love your insight!!!

[@janemichael9433]

It is so sad to me as I think now I realize this is how my first marriage was. Sad.

[@CatherineShoresHMN]

Her name is Sarah Sanders. She’s married. Also, it’s not really fair to mock people for what they believe - no matter how outrageous we find it. Keep in mind these people were raised in a very controlled environment and they have very little ‘life experience’. Their world has been turned completely upside down and they are grasping at every straw possible to try to maintain their sense of normalcy. Agree or not, until they’ve done something illegal, they don’t deserve to be judged.....and definitely not mocked.

[@theresasnyder2379]

Watch Handmaids Tale. It would be Jim Bob & Josh's version of Heaven. These two are as scary as Hell.

[@stacyheyderhoff216]

Holy crap. I used to watch bringing up bates and boy did Gil pull the wool over our eyes. To think I really liked him on the show. I’m speechless. I truly can’t imagine women being OK with this lifestyle and these rules.

[@rachelanderson5608]

I thought he and his family were a lesser version of the Duggars, less strict for sure. Watching them on tv wasn't near as creepy as the Duggars. They seemed way more open and relaxed. This is so disappointing.

[@cindimiller6929]

He is not a JjimBob.