WLToys used to be the BEST Cheap RC Cars.

[@csj9619]

The price has doubled on these WL Toys cars and trucks in the last year or so. Why are we being overcharged for EVERYTHING since the madness in 2021? Retaliation/retribution for not playing along? Dunno, but I for one, am tired of getting ripped off and paying more to get less. Anyone else sharing my sentiments? Seems like most don't mind.

[@BigFatCone]

As a PC gamer, I couldn't agree more. 300 for a mid-tier graphics card from the last generation is just bonkers.

[@davidmellish3295]

It's not a question of us not minding ( I think it pisses us all off ) but more a question of us not being able to do anything about it. The price is the price,so what choice do we have ? Either pay it or go without are the choices

[@gearshiv]

It happens with these cheap brands they get an audience and slowly start bringing up the price and then someone else takes their place as the new cheap alternative after a while

[@gbresaleking]

China having chip shortages because of sanctions with US so they are prob charging more

[@seanjis007]

Inflation...

[@TimG2553]

In my mid 50s having come back to RC the MJX and others budget cars are a great way for new people to sample the hobby and parts are cheap and simple so your not scared to break it as my experience grows then I can invest in something more substantial to play with I do believe they have a place in the market if it wasn’t for the MJX I would not have come back to RC

[@TomleyRC]

The MJX stuff is certainly some of the best at the price point

[@PS3Nightassassin124]

Same here, picked up a H16PL from MJX and I started enjoying the new hobby for me

[@TimG2553]

@@TomleyRC I have to agree with you that’s why I went for it I have the 16208 it’s plenty fast enough for me on 2s as I get used to it I fit a 3s into it it’s a good way to learn again parts are so cheap and you can up grade lots of it so I going to learn how to wrench lol 😂

[@ohhi5237]

my rc cars from 86 and 87 didnt break, not scared of them breaking suddenly after racing around for 30+ yrs stuff just made differently

[@doubledome2076]

Getting back into the hobby at 50, my first car was the 14001. Couldn't believe they made an rc car that did 30mph!! Never had that as a kid! I like wltoys, but like you said, too many other solid options out there these days. Great video‼️👍👍🦾🦾🤘🤘

[@wordreet]

Heehee, I'm pretty sure the buggies and carpet racers we were racing back in the '80s were quicker than 30mph, but, ok, they were race machines. 😁

[@TomleyRC]

They are certainly much quicker than any standard stuff from back then 👌

[@Seegster77]

80s trucks were about finding batteries 95% of the time 😂

[@dutchbeef8920]

@@Seegster77so true

[@MitchellBolognaniRC]

Totally agree I like having cheap available parts. And if 2 break hopefully it means you can put one together out of the 2

[@Mike_and_Life]

I love the lost in translation decals. I bought "headphones" for a friend after how much I loved my "Sport full of power", lol.

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, ‘Headphones’ is up there with the best of them 😀

[@ohhi5237]

who doesnt love headphones, its your own private party!

[@neildaniel8232]

Still running my A959B and it takes an absolute beating so it being based on that is no issue. Pity they haven't kept the price low though compared to the other options.

[@TomleyRC]

When they used to be $40-$50 there was nothing else really out there that was as good

[@myharryface]

Nice jumps Phil! Holy cow -- BTW it would have been nice to tell us what all the mini bashers were at the end. It's hard to recognize them all (since they all are so similar). Thank you.

[@user-ns7qw9hd5y]

this!!!

[@mikellewis2346]

I don't get o watch your video's much, but when I do I truly injoy you honest opinion. An u bring affordable fun rigs to light that most KZbinrs don't. Kep up the great work and will watching more.

[@whitecompany18]

I'm personally not a fan of generic square wheelbase, flat body, monster truck things but they seem to be a big part of the hobby and obviously sell well. I like scale stuff but wltoys have made some good quality cheap stuff I've used in other areas so it's still a thumbs up from me👍 as long as they know their place in the bootleg world and prices reflect that.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes… plenty about big and small, but some people like them I guess 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@boduke9428]

I'm polar opposite. Scale stuff holds no interest for me. I want the absolute best performance for whatever type vehicle it is. Basher, crawler, doesn't matter what it looks like. How it works is what I go for. Models are for scale replicas to me. Luckily they build rigs for us both.

[@zacksmith8763]

​@@boduke9428this is how I feel aswell. Real cars and trucks have limitations placed on them because they have to hold people.

[@ohhi5237]

get a honda cr, but your wife wont allow it @@boduke9428

[@ZacStack]

Lets go tomley i watched all rhe Christmas 25 day seris and stayed up till 11pm to watch this lol

[@TomleyRC]

Haha… legend 👌

[@michaeldorich4485]

You did another very good review. As you said this is a very competitive class. It needs more to stand out.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate. Tough market at the moment

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic bashing and review, Phil! 😃 But yeah, it should be much better for the price! Happy new year! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, $20-$30 less would be good

[@muskokamike127]

Anyone who complains about a parts bin special should take a good long look at the Aston Martin DB9 and other versions. I think the DB9 had ford taurus interior door handles. Some other AM's had Toyota rear lights, and many parts of later vehicles shared a lot with Jaguar and Land Rover.....sheesh, some land rover's had FoMoCo engine components....I know the VVT system was rife with that garbage, probably why they grenaded 2 months after the warranty ran out.

[@TomleyRC]

Yep… everyone does it haha. I can’t remember what one, but TVR used to use Mk3 Fiesta rear lights and just flip them upside down 😅

[@muskokamike127]

@@TomleyRC yeah, you're right now that you mention it, tvrs used a LOT of spare parts......

[@jackdove5021]

Would be great to get a series of videos showing how different parts work and how to upgrade them etc. been in the hobby for just over a year and still learning a lot but some videos aren’t put as simply as you explained the oil shocks in this video.

[@jessecuster3]

Which is the orange one in your video the one next to the Mjx ? Also have you tried the JJRC Q117a?

[@Thatdanethor]

Trying to find something in the 1:55 scale, so I can fit it with the Mattel Disney Cars. As my son is obsessed with them - any suggestions ? Reckon there is one that small, that won’t struggle with the weight of a metal body ?

[@mikesmancave5505]

nice video as always. i just bought my 7 year old a pd racing tr16, and well i had to get one for myself so we could drive together (only fair right). awesome little trucks!. i did a little vid on my channel with my lad and we managed not to break a thing! awesome time with him. keep it up fella

[@TomleyRC]

Good choice! I’ll be getting another to do a brushless conversion soon 🤘

[@mikesmancave5505]

@@TomleyRC Looking forward to seeing it 🤟😎

[@3Y3ECE]

There are aftermarket metal diff housings, in a few colors even, that I highly advise anyone using this platform (there are several in this setup with WLToys, but also Fayee, etc) to pick up at least 2 each front and back. They are much, much tougher, but, not indestructible. It's what I have on my A979B and A959, and they have survived everything but a full frontal collision with a curb. I'm getting burnt out on these 1/18 sized rigs. I like 1/16, I like 1/24, I like 1/10, I like 1/8... But 1/14 and 1/18 are just overdone, and, for lack of a better word, 'gimmicky.' They are all copies of something a size category or two bigger. As always, great vids, love your work, and your approach to this hobby. Keep up the excellent work!!

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

Ya but mini B and RT14 are replicas of the best proven designs by the best rc teams , you can’t call them gimmicky 😂😂😂

[@Jordan.M.23]

I atill use my a959 and a959b I bought many yeats ago, now my son uses them.. upgraded the arms and towers to aluminum and its alot more reliable

[@TomleyRC]

Good platform for sure

[@daig1984]

Other brands like mjx, hbx have upped there game so much! Wltoys need to sort themselves out big time

[@TomleyRC]

Agree

[@Cerberus256]

I picked up the MJX for my daughter for Xmas on your recommendation and it's an absolute banger, cracking piece of kit and great quality. Keep up the great work.

[@TomleyRC]

Awesome choice 🤘

[@IIViper420II]

what type of oil are you running in your trucks you take to the skate park or on rough terrain

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

This platform is great. Nothing wrong with a new version of an old RC..

[@TomleyRC]

Great platform, just not priced well enough to compete with the MJX

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

@@TomleyRC agreed

[@r6yamirider]

I know you made a video of it but where can i get the blue truck you recommended in this video? What make and model is it?

[@wikyWargaming]

Around the 0:55 mark I started thinking "Hey wait, all my Traxxaseseses share suspension components and I don't think it's a bad thing", and then out comes a Rustler 😂

[@adambujakvyaya5806]

Filming gets better and better thanks brother!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Adam

[@dosetti]

The usb-charger that comes with these, can i buy bigger capacity Lipo-battery and use same usb-charger? Volts are the same, maybe different C-rating.

[@Xofroggy]

Turn signal wise, i wonder if a company has done a box that instead of being attached to the turning its on a positional switch like channel 4 on a dumbo. Middle is off and going left or right turns on the signal for that side, it would be more realistic for scale rigs

[@12door-f]

Great vid and great vids all year! You rock🎉 and for this vids I just looked up the Wltoys 184008 rc rig and Im thinking about getting one.

[@TherapyBE]

You should do a comparison of all the trucks you lined up at the end.

[@TomleyRC]

The MJX would destroy them all haha

[@D.C.Johnson]

Great video. More jump cuts please Phil.

[@TomleyRC]

🤘

[@tallie7490]

Not the best lander I would say, but some cool upgrades would be awesome , like some cool wheels and tires, a nice Ford truck body or of some kind....

[@MarkJackson-e1k]

I probably sound like a MJX fan boy. I'm not, but I think they are so good, the build quality great. And they are little beasts that just keep coming back for more.😊

[@TomleyRC]

I agree 😁

[@VS666]

I was really bummed with my HyperGo (probably the same electronic setup based on how it looks), the throttle delay and lag is just annoying, I tried to love it, but it just reminds me of turbo lag on the old air cooled turbo 911s...they called them Widowmakers for a reason! Slow on the start and way too punchy to keep it under control

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, they went for a bit to much power in their latest ones. The one I’ve linked is not to bad from what I remember

[@FarmerFpv]

For me, an RC car has to be able to go where you point it and not have a mind of its own when trying to shred it. That's the issue I have with these smaller brushless RC cars. They are small and go out of control when trying to drive them. Every one of these smaller ones the brushed version was just the right amount of power to have good control over. With that said. They are perfect to have for friends to drive and go bashing with you or to let kids bash around with. I always bring to with me to the race track or skate park to let curious kids try them and have fun while I play with my bigger toys.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, not the easiest to drive fast… I mean because I’m so good… I’m able to drive them 1 handed and make an epic video montage, but most people can’t do that 😅

[@BeforeRobots-ch7gl]

Sorry, off topic but what ramp are you using there?

[@TomleyRC]

It’s an old ‘No Fear’ one I picked up of Facebook

[@Buckethead7777]

You know Phil, I am a big Kevin talbot fan, he has mentioned a lot in his videos that you guys are rivals, so I’m like oh we don’t like tomley, but then I started to watch your videos and I’m like, wow, he’s a great person/rc influencer, I shouldn’t let other people judge for me, keep up the great work, your a pretty cool guy

[@ohhi5237]

tom is the guy you prefer when youre not on crack trying to please 14 year old kids in a skatepark

[@heclanet]

Very nice! And yes, the Hyper go looks a lot better

[@TomleyRC]

Agree 👌

[@yt_nutsaggar]

Is it good for soft sand i live on the beach and want a fast cheap rc car

[@Nordlicht-Roller]

Gosh, a new Video in 2023 😲 It´s definetly the MJX Hyper Go (in Germany Amewi Hyper GO)! My 2 kids and me are enjoying our Hyper Gos 16208 and they´re very resistant 🙂 Happy new Year Phil!

[@TomleyRC]

Last one of the Year 👌

[@HighSideHustler811]

With that subpar battery would the lights really effect the battery life? Always wondered that

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

It looks okay and if the price is below the MJX it will sell okay but im sticking with my MJX for bashing, good video mate and happy new year to you

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, it’s not gonna compete against the MJX at that price

[@jeffreynguyen4697]

Its hard to beat the MJX Hyper Go, its such a good basher.

[@disciplinerc]

Was expecting a bit more of an update to this platform 🤔

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah.. although the 1/18 Metal one was a better update. So this doesn’t really have a place….and I completely forgot to mention that haha. Must be all the Turkey I’ve eaten 😅

[@johnvaughn2868]

Is there any good original design buggies that does not use lipo battery and waterproof?

[@RC-BashersE3]

excuse me mate...but where did you purchase the ramp you used....it has a lovely kicker ....desperately seeking good ramps

[@TomleyRC]

It was on Facebook Marketplace. It’s by ‘No Fear’… but don’t know anymore than that

[@pjpankratz8829]

Where did you get the ramp from? Yeah I would pass on this one compared to the others for the price especially compared with the 16889A Pro.

[@thefakemaker]

My son is new to rc cars and we’re throwing him an rc party. I’ve been buying up cheap WLtoys and maverick cars for the kids at the party to use (all cars under $80aud). Hoping the atom is better for the beginners and the a959 for the more experienced (but then again I guess I can turn down the speed)

[@luccrouset1675]

I can't seem to put the phone holder back in. Is it a one way street ?

[@carterminich5610]

I personally love the lights ..me and my lil guy take em out and night and rip em...its very cool actually we love it

[@jettjohnson9704]

What’s a good begginer rc plane under 150 au

[@TomleyRC]

I don’t do planes dude

[@vitodambra72]

Wltoys went cheap on this model, no oil shocks, no wheelie bar, 3 in 1 esc, damn i hope this isn’t a sign of what is to come in 2024

[@wordreet]

As soon as I realized you were boinging the model up and down to test the suspension I gave the vid a like!!! I love it when you do that unneccessarrillillillillillyyllyyllyyllyy!!!!!!!! 🤣 WLT? I've never bought one. But I just added unneccessarrillillillillillyyllyyllyyllyy to my Firefox dictionary!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha… nothing like a good bounce. No bounce montage this time though

[@HellaNorCal916]

What’s the mini basher you picked at the end of the video? Was that the Mjx?

[@TomleyRC]

Link in the description. ‘My choice’

[@honkmonk4638]

which one is the one tomley would choose?? and the green one is the Grom?

[@ivesvanroosbroeck7855]

what cross screwdrivers do you use?

[@TuscaniGT]

I picked up a 144010 for my son for $99. Still a pretty impressive little car that does 40+ outta the box. They've included a new controller which gets rid of the delay problem it originally had as well. So I'd say there's still nice WL options that are worth the cost. My son thinks it's amazing and I can't blame him considering the car I had at his age did like 18mph stock and cost $300 back in the 80's.

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

I was saying this to my son playing with a stock Gorgon for 169 , pretty amazing compared to even a modified Blackfoot from the 80s with 5 10 minutes playtime

[@ulungprabowo]

So far, whats the best cheap 1/16 truggy you recommend?

[@Dirt_McGurk]

I like WL Toys, I fried the speed controller on my K969. $18 later and It's up and running again.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, cheap to fix 👌

[@rayburngee9004]

Anyone know the name of the blue/white/red truck that he picked the best of the bunch?

[@TomleyRC]

Link is in the description. ‘My choice’

[@___ll___1321]

i got 14209 and is amazing but as you said once is not a skate park rc car, 16889 normal version price is very atractive, is sturdy as the A PRO or quality is not the same? for 5 dollars you can change the suspension so is a total of 72 dollars

[@jwhitehouse]

Can't stop watching your videos at the moment. Looking at getting into the hobby with my son, is there a generic toolkit you'd recommend at all? I've got some great recommendations for starter cars from your videos, but not sure about anything for maintenance. Thanks

[@SteveHall-j3p]

Love lights but not the turn signal

[@unloveableandre]

Happy New Year, Phil!

[@TomleyRC]

Happy New Year

[@charleshurley8927]

Tomley, I am a American vet who works every day to try to keep the lights on and bellys full. I know you sell your rc sometimes pretty cheap. I am into crawling, and was wondering if you had any that you was wanting to get rid of?

[@tomkbucks]

what was the one you pointed at and said i’d have that one?

[@simonz28]

what is that blue one in the middle ??

[@RoostedFilms]

These little rippers look like a proper good time !

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah good fun for sure

[@Mad4saxBrewery]

HEY! Where was the Allen wrench????

[@TomleyRC]

Shocking!

[@masjuggalo]

Am I the only one that misses car is coming with clear bodies? You know outside of the 9x9 lineup being pretty square so wants to get squirrely. I love those little cars. They brought me back into the hobby and I kind of want to see this brushless one race of 550 motor one

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

I agree out of the lineup thats what I would choose also. Great truck, just to expensive for what it is

[@propermon]

Great video, as usual. Where did you get your ramp from? it send the RC car nice and flat into the heavens 👍👍

[@muskokamike127]

12:00 we've got so many I don't know where to put it....I've got a couple of suggestions heheheheh what? WHAT?

[@TomleyRC]

🤣

[@increw1656]

you can loosen the diffs on rc’s?😅🤔

[@LeviLowe127]

Was the included lipo puffed up? It looked pretty thick lol

[@0xpadx0]

Same parts is a good thing as long as they work well. Especially when different brands use the same parts, you can always get spares. And yes, there're way to many small scale basher monster trucks out there, also to many big ones lol but im generally not a fan of this type of rcs. I prefer buggys, short course trucks and crawlers. Most short course trucks share the chassis of monter trucks, so the back suspension is all wrong. And most crawlers are jeeps and defenders, apparently that never gets old lol The market is just oversaturated with the same stuff in general.

[@cutterbacon]

Have you done a tamiya mb01 it looks quite amazing fun to build.

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

Old buggy with drag link suspension right ? I was looking at that today on rc driver top 10 , really nice

[@cutterbacon]

Its brand new i believe. 6 different set ups fwd, rwd etc. Different motor positions?@@RcPlayer-tt2vw

[@jayhow997]

Was they grommets on the diff housing for greasing. If so probably the best thing about it 😂.

[@TomleyRC]

Lol… I didn’t notice

[@nsbob70]

Usually, the words, "One more.." result in something broken. lol

[@TomleyRC]

Yes lol

[@DrFoo11]

Well I chose the HBX MEW4 M163 and I don't regret it at all.

[@masjuggalo]

I kind of like how none of the two-wheel drive Traxxas stuff has really changed. You can still get parts for them. And they still sell them. And even though it's probably going to offend some people, the bandit, the rustler, the stampede and the slash are all the same car? With a stampede and the/getting a slightly different chassis

[@TomleyRC]

Yes you are correct. What is it they say… ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’

[@Patrick-xp6vs]

please make one of your famous comparisons about these cheap rc cars. maybe with 4 of the best 1:18 cheep rc buggys....🙏😍 and maybe also a video about how fast they are with different batteries. 🙏🤩😍😘 7.4 Li-Ion VS 7.4 Lipo VS maybe 3S 🤭 love your videos👍 and in my opinion you make one of the best videos in terms of recording etc

[@cncgeneral]

Is your test spot Teal Park?

[@jameswisecarver]

I got the mad max and for the life of me I cannot find replacement axles, so I took 144001 a arms and links and axles and put them on it, it's wider than it is long now lol

[@Ufo2__energy_freedom]

Alex kowaliuk here,, pretty cool trugy or buggy will you put a brushless in the Emax maybe twin Traxxas 3s system, Iv never seen that before

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

I want that little mini hammer Rey looking guy you did a while back

[@AdityaSamant-i8c]

Please do the review for a MN 82

[@TomleyRC]

Coming

[@AdityaSamant-i8c]

Love your videos a lot

[@AdityaSamant-i8c]

when are you going to review the mn models mn82 @@TomleyRC

[@MysticRiverRC]

Like minds! I bought the MJX and now have no desire to buy any other basher of that scale. I've got the 14209 and the 16208. Maybe I'd go for a smaller micro basher. But I'm more of a trail/crawl guy.

[@TomleyRC]

Great choice 👌

[@EddyHabits]

I'm just getting into the hobby. I've ordered the 16208 (coming soon), but was also thinking of ordering the 14209. Would you say that they are different enough to have them both? I don't really understand the attraction of crawling (yet!), but can I ask what model you use?

[@Gaz494]

Good review Phil. Looking to get a small basher after binging your back catalogue of videos. Torn between a Hyper Go or a Reflex 14MT(MT14 😉), whats your thoughts with your impartial, non sponsored hat on? Is it worth the extra £ to go for the reflex?

[@TomleyRC]

The Reflex is really nice, and obviously being Associated has a little more thought gone in to it and you’ll probably get spares from a local online retailer. However, the MJX is tougher and faster, so I guess it depends. If I had to chose, I’d probably get the Hyper Go I linked in the description.

[@Gaz494]

@TomleyRC cool, cheers. Have to put some thought in to it. Will be my first brushless (only run Tamiya brushed kits before) so the speed will need getting used to. Thanks for replying, keep up the good work

[@RGD-Audio-Repairs]

i quite like the WLToys cars.. Ive got a few of them, they are pretty strong for what they are..,. My only issue is... They destroy the wheel hex's!!! Each one of mine has... Destroyed them to the point that they are circles.. And seeing as they are a very uncommon and small hex size, Its annoying.. Ive converted all of mine to 12mm hex and fitted alloy hex's on..... Easier for wheel/tyre choice aswell :) Happy New Year from Cambridge, England :)

[@henrywood5462]

They keep the price the same- but use cheaper electronics, worse materials, and pack it with unnecessary features like lights or a clipless body system to justify the price

[@Benjamin_Reese]

You make some great videos. 👍🏼 Would it be too much trouble to link all the vehicles you show (not the ones in the background, good God!) in the description? If so that's ok I'll search. 😃👍🏼 There are so many that I can't remember all their names to look them up!

[@TomleyRC]

I just linked the one I reviewed and my favourite. I see channels with a million links in the description and it just looks confusing 😅

[@Benjamin_Reese]

@@TomleyRC That is true! I did just want the link to your favorite! Perfect compromise!

[@raphaelsantossilva1362]

This is a small Traxxas Sledge…on the body, tires, Wheels and rear wing….

[@MauzyrockRC]

Wether or not these little machines are "any good" anymore or not for the price point, you still manage to make the best promo vids for them!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha.. yeah, shame because some of them don’t deserve the air time!

[@michaelduples]

I might buy that now

[@coreynelson6731]

Brother. I was thinking that same thing a couple months ago. I was bashing my Haiboxing 903A and thought how sick it is only thing I have replaced was a dog one and tires. My little 1/4 104001 is through. WLTOYS are NOT in the competition any more. Thanks again for all your hard work on the advent calendar. Happy New year.

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

I think this truck is pretty decent. I think the front bumper they decided to go with is a little spindly and skinny. Maybe a more robust modern bumper would of protected that front diff housing a bit better! 😂 The performance seems adequate, but I’m betting they ran a 3s to get that 60 kph claimed top speed. The lights on this look sick! To me this is a $90-$100 car . I also agree with you on a solid color for this instead of this graphity style graphics! As always , great review !!!👊🏼🤩👍🏻

[@viniciusbrito7512]

mjx kicks this 4ss! I have 4 wltoys, but I am not sure about these new ones... Mjx has better products as of now

[@TomleyRC]

Agree 🤘

[@Elevation86]

I hope MJX makes a 1/24 line soon

[@TomleyRC]

I’d like to see something a bit bigger like 1/10 or even 1/8

[@boduke9428]

​@@TomleyRC yes! I want to see if they can keep that psychotic performance and durability in larger scale while also keeping the price point below the big guys. I imagine a 1/6 or 1/5 hyper go buggy and truggy as a $500-$700 xmaxx and 8s Kraton. Which would be amazing.

[@jaykuptake]

You made a recomendation and pointed to it but, i jave no idea what that is.