Wokespotting, Explained: How The Grift Works

(Alternate title: The Sacred Doctrines of Anti-Fandom)
Previously on the channel, we've asked what is meant by 'woke', and the problems inherent in conspiracies of wokeness. Today, we investigate the curious malleability of wokeness - how can a project be 'woke' one month and 'anti-woke' the next? What is the process by which a piece of media's wokeness constructed, and how can that wokeness fall apart?
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Timestamps-
0:00 Introduction
1:36 Part one, Guardians, Mario, and wokespotting
14:25 Part two, Everything is Woke
21:42 Part three, when wokeness fails

[@natestern2021]

Love how conservatives will call leftists sensitive and then have their day ruined over a fictional cyborg woman wearing a t-shirt.

[@dadbodenvy4247]

Meanwhile leftists are still clawing back from when Democrats, Republicans, corporations, the FBI, the CIA and organized religion all teamed up to kill and exile them from the country during the Red Scare. Honestly amazing anyone in the US knows what leftism even is after how much effort went into wiping it out. Then we have conservatives who would have lost every presidential election in the last 20 years if the electoral college didn't exist to give them a handicap. The game's rigged for them and they still have to try this hard to win.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

This people can't even find tight pants hot. Which is heresy by me.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

Or a fantasy creature’s skin getting darker.

[@500deathwing]

Its all projection.

[@callummacalister]

@@taylorgayhart9497 - one of my favorite Twitter replies to some chud whining that "there's no such thing as Black Aragorn" was "There's no such thing as _white_ Aragorn either"

[@corydk4834]

Knowing where woke comes from especially as a black guy is the most infuriating ever. It literally means to just be aware of injustice. How evil do you have to be to turn that into this bogeyman buzzword. I’m sick and tired of these weird moral panics.

[@galvatrontimewars]

I’ll never let it go. Now I have to differentiate between woke and “stupid woke”.

[@tecpaocelotl]

X2.

[@moonblaze2713]

Ah, but you see, injustice doesn't exist. America is a meritocracy and saying different makes you a traitor. Therefore pointing out injustice is just stirring up trouble, and that makes the woke the evil ones. Dont you try and twist that around on me. Sarcasm, if that wasn't obvious. I mean, it's really how they think but laying it plain really shows how dumb it is.

[@XxJayandTomxX]

Same kind of evil that can see survivors of a school shooting and call them child actors simply because *gasp* they advocate for gun reform

[@dfmrcv862]

Oh please, when the left got its hands on it they morphed it into whatever suited them until it lost a hold. Same with fascist. No one knows what a true fascist is anymore just "oh it's bad". Lefties used to woke to qualify everything from pro civil rights movements to literal revolutionary thought that people like me have no choice but to either call it what it is or go back to calling them communists which is an oversimplification in it of itself.

[@saenz7947]

Imagine the headlines if The Return of the Jedi was released today. "Gender role non-conforming woman doesn't like wearing sexy outfit, escapes a slaver and by doing so rejects the role of women in the society.''

[@boo675]

It honestly baffles me how someone saw Peter B Parker in the Spider-Verse movies hit a low point in his life and later become a caring and attentive father and thought that was some stain to his character. Or that somehow makes audiences perceive him as inferior to Miles (or any other spider person) because he’s the only “straight white man”. If anything, both Spider-Verse movies just made me appreciate him even more.

[@JackH_123]

They hate when female characters are portrayed as perfect with no character flaws, but they also hate when male characters are portrayed as imperfect with character flaws. These mfs just want power fantasies they can relate to and they can’t admit it

[@SymbiSpidey]

The alt-right tends to think very superficially. Despite the fact that they claim to value good writing, they don't care that Peter is a much better person and in a much better headspace at the end of ITSV. All they care about is the fact that the black guy and the woman are doing most of the physical fighting instead of the straight white man and that mere fact alone is enough for them to argue that Peter's character is "ruined".

[@tonoornottono]

yeah he has a fucking solid arch. and peter has ALWAYS been down on his luck, he’s genuinely depressed most of the time. it’s true to his character. they don’t actually want the movies they say they want. what would that be? a cardboard cutout that says “you should like me?” nobody likes conservative art it’s usually really bad. The Lion King is pretty good. i like The 300- super overtly fascist movie but i like it. most of the time it’s bad because it has no heart, i mean i think that’s the simplest i can put it. their media looks like a grift. their movies, their books- often with the word “trigger” or “cancel” in the title -read like a scam. they look visually terrible. maybe it’s a budget issue but really down to the writing they’re using the same rhetorical tricks. feels like you’re being scammed watching them.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

I love Peter B. Parker! I know what it's like to hit a low point and barely function, to isolate yourself from others because you worry about them getting hurt. To see him overcome that, become fatherly (something he feared), and then get the family he actually did want is so lovely. The point being that it can get better.

[@animeotaku307]

Pretty sure the people who hate his arc are the same people who want him to stay miserable.

[@CrowTRobot]

Woke spotting has become shorthand for “I’m just glad that there’s a socially acceptable way for me to be openly bigoted!”

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

I call it ESG

[@alephmale3171]

@@SuiteLifeofDioBrando Extra Silly & Grumpy

[@leonrussell9607]

Its not bigoted to dislike being preached too by films

[@connorscanlan2167]

​@@leonrussell9607I just saw a video by a guy who was upset at being preached to by too many brown people in his Spider-Man movie. 👍

[@leonrussell9607]

@@connorscanlan2167 and I saw black people stealing TVs, does that mean all black people like stealing TVs?

[@Syncopiia]

The whole grift is summed up as: Two sexes: Male, and political. Two sexualities: Straight, and political. Two races: White, and political.

[@thevikingbear2343]

And if you call them "cisgender" now it is hate speech, as per new Twitter rules.

[@daryl9915]

See also: Julia Serano, understanding the unmarked-marked distinction

[@legomarioboy08]

This comment really does say a lot about our society

[@TheRealLegoDocOck]

Two Presidents: Political, and Political

[@blackhogarth4049]

Don't forget. Two religions: Evangelical, and political

[@Ashtonyss]

Little does Drinker know, but Peter Parker being a dorky dad married to MJ is pure fanservice for Spiderman fans.

[@dianaharris7506]

Yeah because a lot of versions of Spiderman don't even get to have an MJ in the first place. MJ is either stolen by another guy or dead.

[@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011]

@@dianaharris7506 you two have no idea what you are talking about.

[@dianaharris7506]

@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 I probably don’t because all I know is that there’s one comic where MJ gets stuck in another timeline and Peter is hell bent on getting her back only to finally go back to that dimension and MJ married and had kids with the guy who took her.

[@thebcwonder4850]

@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 Paul, One More Day

[@davidtaylor142]

How dare they ruin Spider-Man, classic alpha male hero

[@bagser1]

Probably the worst thing about the wokespotters is that there's a younger generation coming up that thinks that is what media analysis/criticism is.

[@screamin_seagull]

It helps me to keep in mind that there was a also time when I was much younger and dumber that I bought into some similar garbage ideas, but as I grew and learned, those times gradually turned into nothing more than cringey memories that pop into my head when I'm trying to fall asleep. Teenagers have always and will always be stupid, and clowns like these wokespotters will always show up to profit off of that stupidity. I think as long as they keep being as obviously ridiculous and embarrassing as the ones shown here, we at least don't have to worry about many of those dumb teens carrying those ideas into adulthood

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

In truth its just conservative indoctrination disguise as care for media

[@shreya3531]

Yup, the younger generation becoming more and more bigoted and hateful, without any sense of critical thinking is the scariest part to me as well.

[@shockblast20]

Yep, 100% agreed.

[@EphemeralCreature0]

@@shreya3531 Thankfully for most I've seen they begin to leave that phase at the end of high school or their early college years

[@DonniedrakoE]

As an African American aspiring screenwriter the word “woke” gets more infuriating by the day. Don't know how it went from pointing out social injustices to pointing out anything progressive regardless of judging it based on how good it is. I'm just glad there are more KZbinrs finally starting to call out the eternal grift.

[@lazerpie101]

here's how to identify woke in your media: step 1, ask the following questions: can the media, in any way, be possibly interpreted as presenting anything other that the ideals of the 1850s? does the media, in any way, represent any minority in any way beyond them existing neutrally? does the movie give any sort of message that would say that it's in any way okay to be a part of a minority? If you were to hand the media to a Klansman, Nazi, or Confederate would any of them dislike it? did the media, despite not being attributed to any of the previous, fail after launch? step 2: if you answered yest to any of them, you should throw out the entire thing. It's too woke to be saved. Otherwise, congrats, you have a non-woke movie.

[@American_Imperialisst]

Because it was genuinely used in its original meaning. Then leftists started claiming their banana peel with a condom on it (im exaggerating, but it captures the ridiculousness and lack of work put in) was woke and pointed out injustice (stuff like that didnt) Then the conservatives took that basis and applied it to anything considered leftist media. Politics is the new religion. People make it their whole personality and like to virtue signal how much they hate/love something depending on what their party likes. Too many people People have too much time and nothing worth living for nowadays.

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

​@@lazerpie101 Well if the movie is actually progressive and not liberal progressive usually the con's are too stupid and have such little media analysis that you can confuse them into thinking it is making fun of "both sides" a good example of this is "The Boys." Another good example of this is "fight club" famously written by a gay man.

[@reggie1025]

That was one of the goals. Woke was a perfectly usable term to easily define awareness of social injustice that could be used to educate others. This made it a threat. So they co-opt the term and toss it to the chuds to dilute its usefulness and remove a tool for deconstructing oppression. It’s not about good faith discussion, it’s just about making communication harder to keep more people under control. Who is “they”? I dunno. Whoever is profiting most off this anti-woke grifting, so fashy billionaires and their sycophants I guess.

[@the_mikeanator]

I just think people nowadays are more cautious about anything progressive in a show in fear of it going to far and it leads them to jump the gun on some media

[@Alex-cw3rz]

It's hilarious how we are getting to a point where shows are both woke and not woke depending on the inane point the person calling it woke/anti-woke are trying to make

[@alephmale3171]

They’re not just making inane points, but also inane _money,_ from radicalizing kids and manbabies

[@WizWiteKnight]

Schrodingers wokeness

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

​@@WizWiteKnight lmawoke

[@killbotone6210]

It's concluding in a logical fashion. Once you redefine woke as anything you personally don't like, then woke just becomes a yes no opinion.

[@lemmingrad]

Basically Street Fighter 6 over the past month.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

That one dude's misunderstanding of Peter B. Parker is so sad to me. "Is this an attempt to mock and belittle the Spider-Man people know and love?" What, by giving him a family, seeing him having overcome his fear of fatherhood, have him be happy, showing him be an active part in the lives of the next generation of Spider-People and having a hero whose personal life *and* heroic life don't suck? Is that mockery and belittlement, to show a character living a happy, fulfilled life? Because if so @ God belittle me, please!

[@akeelyaqub2538]

They want all male characters to basically be what they consider the all powerful mary sue female character to be.

[@tino9117]

Remember when we used to just call a piece of media "good or bad"?

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Pepperidge Farm remembers...

[@SHDUStudios]

@@BioGoji-zm5phnice

[@Door227]

Erm aschually “woke or based” is way better

[@haihuynh8772]

Too one-dimensional, part of what created the current climate.

[@PauLtus_B]

I still can't get over people arguing that Peach in her skin-tight biker suit is somehow de-sexualising her.

[@mhawang8204]

Also, what's wrong with de-sexualizing her? It's a movie based on a video game marketed towards children. Harley Quinn didn't wear fishnet stockings in the 90's Batman: TAS. It feels like nerds grow up and expect all media should still cater to them, including the green M&M apparently.🙄

[@PauLtus_B]

@@mhawang8204 It's not wrong. But considering that she somehow looks less feminine like that according to them... It's such a ridiculous reach.

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

Not just that but people are still freaking out about women wearing pants? Have we gone back to the 1920s?

[@matt2027]

​@@suburbantimewaster9620The thing I really think is ironic about that is that they're freaking out about an outfit that comes directly from the games. Peach first wears that outfit in Mario Kart Wii.

[@guspeixoto7740]

@@matt2027what, do these guys want her wearing a dress while ride a bike or motorcycle? Her dress would make it hard to sit down properly, be uncomfortable, and wearing high heels while bike riding is generally a terrible idea.

[@XxJayandTomxX]

Thank you for speaking on this. I'm getting sick of the term woke at this point. It doesn't mean anything other than "thing I don't like as a conservative"

[@EmperorTerran]

Do you like Netflix Cleopatra?

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

@@EmperorTerran do you?

[@tesytes318]

It's basically there's other people who aren't me (white men ) in the movie/shoe and them being there is what makes it bad .

[@Adulthumanmale]

@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286I’ll tell you who doesn’t like it and that’s the Egyptian people but that’s ok right because Americans don’t give a fuck about Egyptians or facts 😂

[@acutelilmint8035]

No. It’s empty virtue signalling when u pretend to care but u actually don’t. U throw in talking preaching points just to get those points . It’s empty virtue signalling

[@milkinobama8160]

Love how the 40 year old man dressing up in knights armor is making fun of a guy who made fun of him for judging a movie entirely on a few seconds of a trailer

[@doctorcragmire7299]

You forgot to label Avatar: The Way of Water as an example of how these grifters flip-flop on what is woke and what is not.

[@segments2156]

This makes me think of the "Wokeness has ruined Star Trek" people.... like... have they even seen old Star Trek?

[@PillarofGarbage]

(they have not)

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

And even if they did, they sure suck at actually giving anyting more than crying of black people existing and being condescending asshole as if CinemaSins Jeremy became curse on all of Jeremy kind.

[@jahcode6132]

I've never seen star trek but isn't earth like a communist utopia in the OG Star Trek? That's about as woke as you could get lol.

[@segments2156]

@@jahcode6132 oh you can go woker... in the Next Generation, every two episodes, you have a character litterally saying things like "we no longer eat real meat now, we are all vegans" or "you know, mankind has stopped being sexist centuries ago", "money does not interest us anymore, we are sooooo passed that kind of consideration"... there is even an episode where they visit a gender neutral planet and one of the people from this planet start feeling feminine and had to face the oppression from her intolerant society who only allows gender neutrality...

[@segments2156]

@@PillarofGarbage i think they have, unfortunately... there is a video from another youtube channel who analysis Star Trek and wonders why (and finds pretty plausible answers) right wing folks loved so much that universe eventhough it was politically totally the opposite of everything they believed in (basically they are just oblivious of the themes and they just like the military like organization of starfleet)

[@soulkibble1466]

Love how Critical Drinker be mad that Peter B. Parker can enjoy being a dorky father.

[@mhawang8204]

“The modern audience is brainwashed to root for an emasculated Peter taking care of his kid when it should be his wife’s job!”

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

At very least he was consisted that he called out Peter of getting kid with him and not just Spider-woman, which is rare.

[@Jayfive276]

These dimwits think "contrast" is just a button on their monitors.

[@kittycheshire5099]

Does he really think that being a good dad and spending time with your child is emasculating? God forbid he has any children.

[@viljamtheninja]

I love how all of you conveniently focus on this instead f the fact that Drinker actually praised both Spiderverse movies, because that doesn't fit your narrative, since by your strawman version of his view of politics in film, he would by necessity have to hate them for being woke.

[@magnus1383]

Mad that Peach, a character who fought in the game series, pulls out a halberd. Mad that someone has a T-shirt on. Mad that men kissed for one second. Mad that brown people exist. Rent free. But we're the snowflakes.

[@akaimizu1]

Mario went beyond the Peach wearing pants thing. The previews showed Princess Peach getting ready to defend her kingdom, and looking prepared, while it showed Mario's early struggles. All of a sudden, they were claiming "Woke agenda" all over the place, not even stopping for a moment to even think about good story telling. Not even stopping to think rationally about how the plot goes. Comparing someone, who has already lived in the Mushroom Kingdom, and put in a position of power and responsibility, and backed into a wall. But no, this guy who just arrived there (which is shown from the first trailer) should automatically know everything about how the mushroom kingdom works should be better (day one) than every long-lived citizen. (I guess that analogy of convincing someone that they are better by birth than another, they'll give you all their money has some truth). Plus, not to mention it's a Mario Movie, and one with which the audience is to identify with the titular character. I'm sure none of us remember struggling to figure out Super Mario and we could just beat Bowser on World 8-4 day one. That's sarcasm. Of course, they changed their tune on the Mario movie, and practically 180d it. And no, not for any real reason, and Peach still was active and did great things in the film. No, but because they saw it as a movie competing with the Disney film at the time, and they wanted to stick it to Disney. So Mario became the movie they got behind to claim some "sales victory" over Disney. Because someone told them to.

[@shareefpeoples5317]

Yep the issue is most of these anti woke types have met their "woke" quota there is just toomany women being strong ir useful for them. Back in the 80s/90s there were not a lot of women being as powerful and competent in film like today

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

Boogie literally called the movie "feminist propaganda" on his twitter even when it came out lmao

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

If a person's initial response to seeing a person of color, a different gender, age, or different sexual orientation in something (not even as a lead role, by the way) is anger, that seems more like a "you" problem. Instead of spending time looking around to see if the Critical Drinker validates that opinion, or harassing the the actors on social media, why not take the time for some soul searching and ask why that is always the initial response?

[@beck2752]

Well, that would mean that they could possibly come to the conclusion that yes, they are bigots. And since they are too pussy to face the truth, they make up a bunch of shit to gaslight themselves to think otherwise.

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

Take too much work for Drinker while he can act like an idiot on youtube and get free money.

[@olivercastillo4843]

You are blatantly ignorant, wokeness is rewarding perceived victims or marginalized groups and give them resources , resource takes many forms from money, clout, handouts, in this context the free resource is representation a resource given to them because they DESERVE IT because they are victim and marganized aka WOKE

[@danagarland1450]

Really no need to ask at this point if you know American history in the slightest.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@danagarland1450 This seems a little mean-spirited, unless I'm misinterpreting something.

[@hazzabang17]

I got in a discussion with a 40 year old man about how The Simpsons just isn’t the same anymore and he said without irony “go woke go broke”. And it caught me off guard, Simpsons in its prime in the 90’s, the biggest show in the world, was a very left leaning “woke” show. Just shows people will add this label to anything without properly evaluating and understanding the material.

[@Jayfive276]

In 90s Simpsons Homer literally has a fist fight with George Bush.

[@sofiantz2142]

The Simpsons isn't as good as it used to be i agree but the reason is not that it's "woke"

[@Dalekzilla54]

Hasn't the Simpsons not been the same for over 20 years?

[@Seras99]

Woke is the last thing on my mind when it comes to the Simpsons. To me, it’s really about the writing quality.

[@ccricers]

The Simpsons always had their finger on the pulse with current events. They make fun of everyone too. Man is just riding a bandwagon which made him forget his past self.

[@paulsawchuk9934]

Speaking on Alien and the chuds claiming it wouldn't be political - Alien has a STRONG workers rights plot element and anti-corporate message that defines the entire original set of films. And I mean STRONG. It's pro-union, anti-corporate, and that's all BESIDE the pro-feminist positioning of Ripley (who was written as a male, originally).

[@thepubknight6144]

And James Cameron openly said he's a progressive and that all his films are about progressive changes I mean his interviews are all over KZbin so the anti woke grifters can watch them easily

[@devforfun5618]

the main concept of the movie was a man being raped and forced to have a baby which is why they chose an artist that made creatures with genitalia for faces to design the monsters

[@animeotaku307]

Still don’t know how anyone missed that when Ripley outright called the company worse than the xenomorphs in the second film.

[@DarthMcDoomington]

@@animeotaku307 And she's right too, no matter how you put it the company was outright trying to use the xenomorphs as a bioweapon, which would therefore of course spread the xenomorphs. The company, if they succeeded, would do more to spread the xenomorphs then the xenomorphs themselves ever could, for, let's face it, extremely petty cash even though they seem to already be the biggest company in the setting.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Not just Ripley, but also Vasquez in the second film as well. She kills the most aliens in the movie, and let's not forget how she takes out one alien in HAND-TO-HAND combat when crawling in the vents, kicking its head against the vent walls before putting bullets in its skull... which... actually didn't kill it right away and also led to her demise when its blood spilled on her legs and prevented her from being able to keep moving... but I digress. Also, this exchange: Hudson: Hey, Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man? Vasquez: No. Have you?

[@NelsonStJames]

It amazes me that those scammers will start pronouncing a film as "woke" at earlier and earlier stages before any actual info about a film is out. And generally the reasons they base these decisions on are quite telling of what their true intentions and motivations really are. If you get what I'm saying.

[@Lulu-ew7oh]

As a black guy I’m tired of hearing ignorant folks twisting a word that means be aware of injustices to fit their narrative just because a show or movie have a lgbt character or poc doesn’t hurt you

[@ccricers]

I blame the growth of social media for that. It has made a lot of words very meaningless, not just ones associated with justice or politics but different words like "literally" or "gaslight" which get so overused to the point of watering down.

[@Bustermachine]

@@ccricers Honestly information technology in general is a double edged sword that we simply do not know hot use responsibly just yet. If you think of the internet as a big brain of brains, all the neurons continuously firing isn't 'big smart' . . . it's a seizure. A brain/nervous system actually has mediating feedback loops that both excite and depress neuron firing . . . because unrestrained neuron firing is BAD. But social media has an incentive to keep the thumb firmly on the 'excite' button and never stop. And it's only going to get worse with generative algorithms spewing out automated hottakes and visual noise.

[@alexanderprasent2758]

As a black guy maybe you should get over the fact that white people are equal. Woke was mainly popular in use to push black supremacist conspiracy theories on white people. "Get woke" meant to believe white ppl were some evil inferior race. You know it, all black people know it, so own up to it.

[@zenkim6709]

"When you've lived most of your life sheltered by privilege, the shift towards equality feels like persecution." -- [original source unknown, paraphrased]

[@Miglow]

That's the point. They've coopted the word. They've destroyed the power of the word. They are subjugating and attacking the original woke movement. That was the plan and it sadly has worked. The same thing happened with the phrase Social Justice, which was turned into "social justice warriors". People cannot justify being a bigot. So they have to find ways of mocking and harassing people who want to work and fight for equality.

[@pianist150]

Saw a guy on twitter who said that they should do a revival of Static Shock. Another guy said they can't because if they did it'd be all about "black issues" and "politics", to which numerous people rightly said that Static Shock has ALWAYS been about that stuff. This person tweeted back that the difference is shows back in the day used to have subtlety but now wokeness has taken over everything. I replied with an actual quote from the show " 'My best friend is gone because of you and your stupid racism' yeah real subtle". So much media that came out pre-2005 would be lambasted for wokeness today. If Alien or T2 came out today these dicks would hate Sarah or Ripley just as much as they do Captain Marvel. They just don't realize they're buying into some culture war grifter's bullshit.

[@mhawang8204]

What’s worse is they use Sarah and Ripley to argue how the “strong woman” character is badly written and “forced” today. Wokeness didn’t exist until 2016 indeed.

[@leephillips4402]

I mean all fairness to them the most recent Terminator movie killed off John in the first scene and then had Sarah spend the whole movie crapping on herself for being motivated by protecting her son.

[@pianist150]

@leephillips4402 and the first Alien had Ripley telling a bunch of men not to do something stupid and they all do something stupid and die except for her.

[@leephillips4402]

@@pianist150 that's a good example of what would be called "Woke" in this day and age but it dosen't really have anything to do with the point I just made.

[@pianist150]

@leephillips4402 well my initial point when referring to Static Shock was that things from the “non woke era” that these people love would infuriate them if they came out today. I don’t think the new Terminator thing you mentioned in anyway contradicts or refutes that? Or maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say

[@ImVeryOriginal]

I've also noticed that as soon as the "woke" thing turns out to be actually good, it suddenly isn't woke anymore. It happened with "Mad Max: Fury Road" and "Dune" as well. I've seen a dude argue, without a hint of irony, that the casting of a black woman as Liet Kynes in "Dune" isn't woke because "she's a mother and the left hates motherhood and the maternal role". Of course, the fact that Liet is a parent isn't even mentioned in the movie. That level of cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics must physically hurt.

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

Wait. So is "the left" comprised of bitter single mothers and makeup-loving man haters who want everything handed to them on a platter, or do they hate mothers and femininity and want to destroy them? Which one is it? 😂

[@adamdebord1897]

As far as the “woke” Disney properties, you can look at the entire Disney renaissance. You have: Trans Identity (The Little Mermaid) Toxic Masculinity (Beauty and the Beast) The dehumanization of poverty and its impact on criminality (Aladdin) The impact of colonialism on indigenous populations (Pocahontas {I didn’t say they were all well done}) The demonization of marginalized groups and the way people use it to seize or maintain power (The Hunchback of Notre Dame) Over-commercialization of celebrity and the impact it has on the person and the society in which they live (Hercules) Gender roles and stereotypes (Mulan) Animal Rights (Tarzan)

[@DataLal]

Awesome. 👏

[@eko9554]

Roger Rabbit and Zootopia are a critique on racism even tho they aren’t part of the renaissance.

[@AlexanderWatchingmovies]

Yes you’re right even though it doesn’t have to do with Disney animated movies. Disney has proved they are fake with it’s woke preaching since they shrunk the picture with John Boyega in the chinese poster

[@marvin2678]

Toxic Masculinity (Beauty and the Beast) ? thats about toxic femininty tho

[@wakkaseta8351]

I wasn't aware that giving up your voice in a deal with the devil suddenly makes you trans.

[@jayDee92133]

I warmed my heart when I saw Zack Snyder pull up on those idiots.

[@xavmanisdabestest]

can you elaborate I don't follow zack or this space that much

[@catborg780]

​@xavmanisdabestest he went on one of their podcasts & called them out to their faces. Then they all got salty, basically saying "how dare you! We got the Snyder cut released. REEEEEEEEEE!"

[@Gimodon]

Indeed. You know that has to have wounded their pride to the bone.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

Zack Snyder is stupid, but mostly decent guy. Like, Rorsach. No leftist can convince me that Rorsach isn't the only decent person who gets justified by narrative itself, to the point of wounding Alan's ego.

[@jod791]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 You mean the moral absolutist, extreme right-wing Rorschach who's diary was based around the Son of Sam serial killer and portrayed as an nutcase Rorschach was the only decent person? You sure about that? This isn't my description of him either, this is the description Alan Moore, his creator, uses.

[@afrolund80]

The most anti woke person at my last job absolutely loved the Alien franchise. Of course I had to burst his bubble. "In the Alien movies, men become the damsels in distress. They get raped and impregnated. The female is the victorious hero who defeats the monster and saves the day. That's a total role reversal. Sounds pretty woke to me!" He couldn't even say a word. His face was just frozen.

[@gv82089]

To be fair, Ripley also gets "raped" and impregnated

[@afrolund80]

@@gv82089 Yeah, in the 3rd film. Which nobody likes. If I told him the 3rd Alien movie was woke. He wouldn't care.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

​@@afrolund80 In/Frame/Out actually made a really solid video defending Alien 3.

[@afrolund80]

@@jeremyusreevu237 Singing to the choir my friend. I actually liked that one since it's release. I didn't like the 2 main characters getting killed off screen. But it didn't ruin it for me and I thought the movie made a perfect end to the franchise with Ripley sacrificing herself at the end.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

@@afrolund80 I'm not singing to the choir. I'm more just recommending that video, because it's a really well made video from an awesome KZbin channel.

[@thevikingbear2343]

Fun fact:In 2024 people are complaining because Rogue from X-Men is not tighting her booty in every single shot of the new cartoon and that not having the camera fixated to her booty in very single shot of the trailer is woke somehow. (The cartoon hasnt aired yet.)

[@anth636]

People are complaining Disney isn’t doing DeviantArt’s job

[@mgcarrigan]

I heard a bunch of old guys complain the Punisher was going woke. Because he used a gun less. While he had an army of ninjas hunting criminals. Apparently even though they own the shop they forgot characters always get a reset.

[@Geekboy7963]

KZbin once recommended me a Vid about how the Punisher is woke cuz the New version is fighting that german empire made by that failed artist. Like bruh, how tf is that "woke", Captain America has did that for years, but no one called that out. Again, im pretty sure they are biased

[@Blitzo8390]

@@Geekboy7963 Apparently hating Nazis is woke now Dude, my grandad killed these monsters in WWII. Was he woke? Or was he fighting for his country because he didn’t want it to be taken over by a bunch of sad humans with inferiority complexes?

[@onbearfeet]

As someone raised in the conservative culture wars of the 80s and 90s, I see "anti-wokeness" as the newer, louder, more accelerated version of "politically incorrect" (e.g. reactionary conservative) rhetoric. It's the latest strain of "Rush Limbaugh yells about Mulan existing" or "my dad is angry that Princess Leia is a good shot". I wasn't allowed to watch Ghostbusters media as a kid because it was "demonic". Anything with a female protagonist or a prominent character of color was "PC" and therefore bad--yes, including the Alien and Terminator movies. Disney was on thin ice with my family because they kept putting out movies that portrayed white Christians negatively--e.g. Frollo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. (Never mind that I went to church with hundreds of Frollos and knew them inside and out already.) For some reason, the summary of the phenomenon that I keep returning to is an episode of Gargoyles. The characters (time-displaced fantasy creatures from 10th-century Scotland) encounter a cave containing the ghosts of two people they knew back home. Both ghosts are animated by their eternal loathing for each other and the main characters, but over the course of the episode, one of the ghosts discovers he was mistaken and has been holding a pointless grudge for centuries. By the end of the episode, one ghost forgives and moves on to an implied afterlife while the other remains trapped in the cave. The last we hear of him, he's screaming at the heroes' retreating backs: "Don't leave me here with no one to hate!" As a kid, I thought the line was corny, but it stuck with me. I hear it echo in my ears every time I see what you call "wokespotters" desperately trying to find new targets for their viewers' rage. They really are that unsubtle. Their greatest fear is being left alone with no one to hate.

[@PillarofGarbage]

I’ve been meaning to check out Gargoyles - sounds like a very interesting episode, and a killer line.

[@onbearfeet]

@@PillarofGarbage Honestly, the whole series is surprisingly great. Halfway through season 1, they just ... adapt Macbeth? For reasons? It's a brilliant kind of bonkers.

[@simdivya]

this is such interesting insight into cycles of political/cultural thought! i guess the whole 'it was better back in my day' continues no matter the generation. makes me think of how parents disapproved of elvis and the beatles.

[@onbearfeet]

@simonebalakrishna4507 I minored in classics in college. I could point you at ancient Greek and Roman authors complaining about the weak, decadent, and wayward youth of their day and sounding EXACTLY like boomers now. There's even a word for it -- juvenoia. It seems like every generation of humans thinks things were just about perfect when they were young -- which is coincidentally also when their joints didn't hurt, they could eat whatever they wanted, everyone told them they were pretty, and they hadn't yet lived long enough to have much of a basis for comparison for anything. The only people I've met who WEREN'T nostalgic for their childhoods and convinced that their generation had the best stuff were my paternal grandparents ... who both grew up on farms in Ohio during the Great Depression, and who therefore were nostalgic for the post-WW2 period, when things finally were a little less dire for them. Funny how that works out.

[@danagarland1450]

I forgot that episode completely. Good post fam.

[@TheGodofweak]

Conservatives: "Go woke go bro- oh... ok actually its doing pretty well. It extremely successful. one of the highest grossing movies of all time. huh. Uh its Anti-Woke actually and That's why its great (Despite the obvious progressive themes.)" Being a conservative today is just constant cope

[@westonmeyer3110]

In other words the far left run the country and the shrieks of white supremacy, patriarchy, fascism, etc are all excuses to oppress the actual victims. I win. Not only does the weakness and powerlessness undermine the bravado of conservatives but the crushing authoritarianism and all encompassing power also completely destroys the idea that the left and their constituents are victims of the system because they control ALL of it and their opponents are the REAL victims speaking truth to power.

[@BlueBoboDoo100]

Being anti-woke is a surefire recipe for being miserable. Want to be the most annoying person in every room you enter? Want to distance your friends and family with your abrasive rhetoric and bullying? Want to hate all movies, games, music, books, and shows? Even ones you previously loved? Then go anti-woke!

[@acutelilmint8035]

Actually no. When you have Aidan countries calling out America.. you guys are so blind I swear.. things are actually nit doing well being of your politics and empty virtue signalling. You act like you know what’s best for the world.. your hubris is why things are collapsing. Go woke is exactly that.

[@boangherrazvan3977]

thing is was the movie woke ? The whole things with nebulas look is that there was a sign that it will be woke because of the change. If you have 50 movies and you notice those changes in 49 of then it flops, then go woke go broke is not wrong . Then the movie comes out and it was not woke, or trying to spill some woke agenda. The change on how she looks still is there for no reason but the narrative is not woke so it was a good movie . Still 1 movie out of 50 that was not actually woke does not change the saying go woke go broke.

[@maestercraig3990]

They label things "Woke" until it makes money, then its Anti Woke" and will then claim the filthy leftists are pissed at its success apparently.

[@supermariof0521]

I honestly feel like shit for falling for this grift initially. Especially after realizing how the term "Woke" originally meant being aware of actual injustices like racism, sexism, police brutality and general acts of scumminess in real life. Then these grifters came and took that term and twisted it into something foul.

[@finvaly]

Maybe it's because I'm Russian, but what the hell is wrong with speaking about politics? Politics is our life, changes and cultural clash is our life, but I guess the entitled conservatives always fight for their status quo

[@steamboatwill3.367]

Are you still living there? sry if it's an inappropriate question.

[@finvaly]

@@steamboatwill3.367 I am, it's an interesting experience

[@yungmuney5903]

You answered your own question, conservatives benefit from the status quo while the people they hate suffer for it.

[@archivist_13]

"Oy fellas is it woke to fall in love?" Destroyed me lmao

[@toasterbunnie295]

“nebula breasted boobily” got me

[@eclat4641]

@@toasterbunnie295lol

[@EnishLord]

I think another problem is how these grifters often co-opt discussion about movies. Where people might have a legitimate issue with writing, characterization, disrespect of lore, exct, it gets latched onto by the grifters as an example of things being changed to push "The message" or an agenda.

[@sonlen796]

The criticism that the Mario movie was woke because Peach was wearing pants or was taking a more action-centered role frustrated me because it was clearly coming from people who haven't played a Mario game in a very long time. But they were still talking like not making her a damsel in distress was somehow rewriting her character or something. Peach taking a more active role in the action has been something Nintendo's been doing for a long while now. Hell, in Mario x Rabbids Peach had a laser shotgun (and was one of my favorite units in that game).

[@cadethumann8605]

Not to mention, it seems like even in recent games where she is kidnapped, there is a little twist to shake things up. For instance, in Mario Odyssey, her feeling overwhelmed after her rescue (after a stressful kidnapping, obviously) and being bombarded with Mario and Bowser proposing to her made her insist that enough is enough. In the endgame, she's allowed to wander freely.

[@cadethumann8605]

That being said, I do have my issues with how they handled Peach. Or rather, making her Mario's main companion and rendering Luigi as the one in distress. I also felt that she could have had some moments of vulnerability instead of being perfect at almost everything (Mario and the others had moments of weakness). HOWEVER, I still detest Shad and numerous others making a huge fuss and making it to be far more nefarious. God, I hate humanity sometimes...

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

Plus, imagine being upset about women wearing pants _at all?!_ 😂

[@nina9565]

The irony of anti woke people not realizing the "woke politics" in guardians 3 is very funny; it proves that artists need to be very explicit and in your face about their messages if they want people to understand them, which in turn creates more obvious woke media for those same people to complain about.

[@Mitcheck315]

Anti-Woke people latching onto Guardians 3 when the whole reason James Gunn was (temporarily) fired from it in the first place was because he criticized Trump is certainly a choice

[@arbitarious]

I hope he makes bi superman son in a few years into his dc universe! I'm so excited

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Actually he was fired because of some jokes he'd made making light of r4pe and p3dophilia. Those tweets were mainly brought to light because fox was upset because he criticized trump, but let's not give him a pass for what he ACTUALLY did

[@arbitarious]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 so the right canceled james? Damn.

[@lemmingrad]

@@arbitarious On a more serious note, there’s a Jesse Gender video that highlights a recurring theme in James Gunn’s movies, men starting out toxic masculine before other characters challenge his viewpoint to unwrap a better person under that persona. Though sort of based on that, Gunn’s Superman will probably be a criticism of Snyder’s Superman.

[@Mitcheck315]

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 obviously he did actually make those jokes but they probably never would've been unearthed if he wasn't a vocal critic of Trump

[@MsJaytee1975]

The existence of disabled adults, or dolls based on disabled adults is often enough to have the wokespotters flailing about. The reaction to disabled adults modelling underwear that is specially designed for disabled people was something else. See also, Down Syndrome Barbie, and the mere idea of a wheelchair user on Strictly Come Dancing.

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

Imo this blatant ableism is the ONLY proof people should need to understand that people who buy into this grift support eugenics.

[@soulresonance4073]

We need more videos like this on the internet, this restored a LOT of my faith in humanity. A lot of people in my area have become fully indoctrinated into the idea of “wokeness”, they use that word all the time, but it literally does not have a real meaning to them. If you ask them to define it, they won’t be able to. Woke doesn’t mean anything.

[@wojmzl]

Woke is ideology creating problems where they are none, than forcing everyone to also believe in them. If someone disagree with that ( even if he s only fault would be sticking to reality/science or just having different opinion) he will be called by snowflakes with terms like bigot, homophobe, racist ect). It also mean to be obsessed with race, sexual orientation, sex and lgbt. This ideology tends to corrupt old things like movies, games, books instead create new, which would fit to there agenda. It includes victime culture. Here, there is your definicion of wokeness, my american friend :P.

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

There's an enormous amount of videos responding to anti-woke rhetoric like this on the internet. There's a lot more content for you to watch if you liked this

[@Aldrnari956]

The “woke” nonsense is hilariously pathetic particularly because the process is close to using actual critical theory in interpreting media, but stops at the most obvious and superficial interpretation that fits their narrative.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

Yeah, the Last Jedi was the moment I left them because I realised that their media literacy is worse than some Eastern European kid and they really talk more about actor existing more than actual critique of story itself.

[@hankboog462]

I don't think it's even said in this video but this just made me think of how the phrase "forced diversity" is so funny to me. Like what is non forced diversity. Accidental diversity? Was George Lucas planning to make an all male movie but then Carrie fisher walked on set and refused to leave?

[@umapessoa240]

More like it was a stroke of pure genius that he kept her in the studio, if she walked in and refused to leave she would be a raging feminist whore

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Forced Diversity is a thing. It's when studios use diverse casting choices as an artificial way to boost approval rather than for natural story reasons.

[@umapessoa240]

@@jeremyusreevu237 what do you suggest, then? If a black guy is cast in a role that doesn’t need a black guy, people call it forced. If a role where a black guy is needed is created, people call it forced. There’s no winning.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

@@umapessoa240 What I suggest is that we make movies with original black characters, that are about actual black experiences, that don't pander to virtue signaling morons, and ignore the racist assholes who actually do hate black people. Because guess what, you don't always have to respond to these assholes!!!! You can just IGNORE THEM AND FOCUS ON MAKING A GOOD PRODUCT!!!!

[@hankboog462]

@jeremyusreevu237 why do characters need a "story reason" to be part of a minority group? Ofc stories specifically focusing on minority issues are important and should be told but they're also just people that exist and thus can exist in movies without needing a "reason." A cisgender, straight, able bodied, white man is not the default human being.

[@diefty94]

A:TLA is one of my favourite examples of a beloved show that if it came out today would be deemed "woke".

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

ATLA absolutely is woke. This isn't just a wokespotting thing, it's pretty overt and the show goes beyond just having strong female characters to actually addressing gender politics in the plot.

[@devforfun5618]

soka an Zuko are incompetent men, all the women are strong and aang is a soy boy@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769

[@Fantallana]

and its beautiful for that@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769

[@dip.918]

@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Yeah, and it's awesome! Having the main group be split equally between genders (if you count Suki) and having them all be competant and have their own arcs is amazing

[@DarksideGmss0513]

100%

[@grmgt]

22:44* This part explains perfectly why suddenly Critical Drinker made a positive review of Blue Eye Samurai (or even Arcane at the time). The projects have a lot of what they would consider "woke signifiers" BUT since the overall public liked it and even they add up to the chorus because the dominant/status quo opinion is almost always the easiest way for them so they don't mind on switching on and of the wokespotting. Your content is brilliant and necessary, thank you.

[@isaacthegoat1432]

The same reason he liked No Way Home and the Whale despite claiming that Hollywood potrays men as weak.

[@basicsimp8798]

It's hilarious and sad how people like Tyrone literally got his brain melted as he stumble deep into AntiSJW talking point. Some people are seriously trying to say, The Guardians Vol 3 film is great because its the only recent none woke Marvel film, or the only film with get this, AN AGENDA!! Forgetting the fact that the film is basically pro animal rights, drax's whole arc is basically from him being a Fighter to a dad, Mantis literally leaves her family to try and found herself (feminist icon right here), the villain is literally a supremacist and the whole theme of the Guardians is basically centered on found family. It's literally woke as heck and i love it for it. Nebula is literally a cyborg and their main concern is that they can't jackoff to her anymore? Super heroes movies are woke as heck and are very political too. It literally tackles or sort of real world problem from intensive police surveillance, corruption in the government, housing problems, finding your identity, discrimination, even relationship or different family dynamics. If this can include straight dynamic or romance so can gay relationships. I guess the only reason it's not woke for them is that because gay characters didn't exist or the reason it didn't push an Agenda because it didn't focus on female characters that much??? This film is proof that for AntiSJWs, there are only two sexualities, Straight or Political. There are only two genders. Men or Political. That Anti-SJWs are literally just the worse. XD For the record for Tyrone, you don't look like a happy fan. You look like a crazed lunatic that went down the anti-sjw rabbit hole.

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

I literally made a joke that the big bad was just eugenics in a human form How did the anti-woke crowd miss that? Are their brains seriously that rotted?

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Well put

[@arbitarious]

Also pro refugee

[@SymbiSpidey]

Their media literacy skills are just extremely poor and they aren't able to analyze a piece of media beyond its most surface level details. I mean, Rocket outright says to the villain something along the lines of "You didn't want to make things perfect, you just don't like the way things are", which, to me, sounds pretty pro-LGBTQ

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Or how about XMen? Nothing woke there, just blatant metaphors for racism, being gay, and a Holocaust survivor becoming super-Hitler.

[@cyberius7042]

The reason pop culture works from the 70s, 80s & 90s are considered gold standards while everything recent is "woke" is simple - social media didn't exist back then. Sure, there were grifters of different sorts, but there weren't a dozen virtual platforms pulling millions of marks to them. That's what really makes me nostalgic about those decades. Thank you for another insightful, sensible video.

[@svenm4740]

The difference is in the past you had to write letters to make your opinion known. Reading some letters Marvel got after they changed the X-Men in the 70s I wonder what would have happened if they got Social Media back than.

[@mizushogun]

Thank you! People never seem to bring that up when discussing wokeness or how “things were so much better back then”.

[@jordanholt9170]

There’s also a bit of survivorship bias involved. We always talk about the successes from the past, but not the failures.

[@danmerget]

Technically, social media did exist in the 80's & 90's, in the form of Usenet. But it wasn't as widespread, and the text-only format meant that you needed to use convincing arguments (or at least solid knee-jerk rhetoric) rather than flashy memes. Unfortunately, many of the battles are still the same. A frequent disruption on Usenet was the Great Floating Homosexuality Flamewar.

[@Jayage5d]

True I think of Cinderella in the 90s, if that movie came out today you know these culture warrior channels would have been calling it woke like they do the The Little Merimaid now, back then in the 90s if somebody had a problem with a character being black I wouldn't have know about it.

[@captaincrisis226]

The whole Guardians 3 being called woke because of some surface level design choice, reminds me of when someone complained that a band I like went woke because the lead singer put eye-liner on for a music video. And it's even more stupid because the band has always been "woke", like they've written a bunch of anti-war, anti-religion, and pro environmentalist songs, but suddenly wearing eye-liner is "too woke". It really makes you wonder whether these people actually try to enjoy movies and shows for what they are or if they are looking to get triggered at something for the dumbest reason.

[@_qwerty_3545]

I’m actually so lost. Feels like I’ve been under a rock for years but, what the hell is woke, what the hell is grifting, and what’s with this red pill blue pill shit I’ve been hearing.

[@PillarofGarbage]

Honestly? Don’t look into any of it. If you’ve managed to dodge it so far, I _guarantee_ you’ll be better off staying out of this mess.

[@_qwerty_3545]

@@PillarofGarbage alright fair enough. Good luck with whatever this situation is, going back to my rock

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

Red pill is anything that validates their pre-existing severely paranoid thought pattern.

[@gwell2118]

I’ve pretty much seen the pattern they work on. They see something coming out. Look for something they can latch onto and make a bunch of vids saying it’s woke. If it does bad they ride the train on how wokeness ruins everything. If it does well they either A) ignore it to avoid getting trolled. Or B) retroactively act like like it was good and not woke at all to than ride the train that it’s great. It’s all clickbait in the end.

[@rsdillbot3646]

"Top gun maverick shits on wokes" with a thumbnail of smiling Tom cruse with a crying lgbt person (preferably the meme one from the trump rally)

[@CrowTRobot]

@@rsdillbot3646 yup, every time. It’s why they spammed thousands of comment “reviews” of Ms.Marvel before anyone even had a review copy of it, telling people not to watch it because “it’s literally iCarly””it’s for children” and of course, “it’s woke”.

[@svenm4740]

Or they say someone like Disney bought Tickets if a "woke" movie does well like it happened with Captain Marvel.

[@byron2FZ]

Critical Drinkers No Time To Die response is hilarious because Bond has been getting pushed around by a powerful woman since the male M was first replaced by Dame Judie Dench. Plus Craig's Bond tried to retire in almost every film he's in.

[@maestercraig3990]

Imagine if Goldeneye came out today? With M being gender swapped to a woman? And Having her call Bond a "Sexist, Misogynist, Dinosaur?" These toddlers would lose their minds. 😂😂😂

[@byron2FZ]

@maestercraig3990 oh they've been doing it for decades. When Katee Sackhoff got cast as Starbuck in the Battlestar Galactica reboot fans of the original show lost their shit just like so many lose it these days.

[@rhettbaldwin8320]

@@byron2FZ And her character (and the show in general) was arguable a better show than the original. (thought they fell down a bit on the finale)

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

@@byron2FZ They've been doing it since before television was invented. When women started wearing pants, they lost their minds.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

funny thing is most of the comments said they rather have Ana De Armas as the replacement, which is very telling. seems they see a black woman as a problem.

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

Schrödinger's Woke: a blockbuster movie is neither woke nor anti-woke until it succeeds or fails critically and/or financially.

[@gaiusjuliuscaesar8450]

Small note about Shad: His backpedaling was only partial. He still thinks Mario was woke, only that it wasn't as woke as he thought it would be.

[@BlueBeetle1939]

Theres an is it woke movie website and its so funny the things theyve determined are NOT WOKE i spent a good 20 minutes giggling about it to myself the other day. Basically woke just means anything after 2016 for whatever reason

[@MintTea2005]

I have aWOKEn

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

It seems it began after Ghostbusters female reboot - its when the grift set in I didn't like the GB reboot but a communist conspiracy to make me gay?? HUHH??????????????? LOL Critical Drinklogic at its finest

[@DarthTingleBinks]

​@@darkthorpocomicknight7891Ah, yes... Women make people gay. The truth that Galileo spread across the world until he was silenced. Had he never looked through his telescope, he never would have seen the message in the stars, "If pussy, why not bussy?"

[@DarthTingleBinks]

@@dibsdibs3495 Uh, what? The term is like a century old, my guy. I don't know the specifics, but I know a black man was the first person to be recorded saying the term. And it was to remind other black people of the injustices that they as a people have faced and endured; that they may sit next to white people now, but they are not equal (this is obviously my own paraphrased version of it, but someone can correct me).

[@LabiLabi777]

Than they've never watched Static Shock.

[@brucesnow7125]

You have no idea how good it is to watch a politically literate KZbin video. Its very rare because it actually takes effort to analyze stories and not succumb to pathetic grift. I'm just happy channels like yours and Jessie's exist.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

I love Jessie Gender as well. She's such a pleasant and fun KZbinr.

[@viljamtheninja]

Imagine then how it feels to go to the university now where literally everything is a whole pathetic grift about trying to point out how every literary work, every film, every piece of art forever has nothing interesting or good about it and is only racist, sexist, homophobic and otherwise bigoted and has nothing interesting to analyze outside of this. Academia is obsessed with Marxism and intersectionalism. The anti-woke movement is merely a response to this. You may find it annoying, but it's literally just people trying to get the politics out of entertainment after decades of both academia and the dominant cultural ideology in general trying to force politics into every sphere that's supposed to be private - such as those of entertainment. If we can't have it, neither can you.

[@marvin2678]

wow look at me im so smart

[@dimensionninja4929]

politically literate? Maybe, you're just too sensitive, to understand, how to process of creation works

[@LWWL-lm7fm]

@@dimensionninja4929Sybau

[@ZarkWiffle]

The most exhausting part of media releasing nowadays is figuring out if something is actually bad or these folk just have a gripe over some silly wedge point.

[@lloroshastar6347]

We are literally seeing this in action right now as the trailer for GTA 6 is released. People are literally looking for reasons to hate it. These people have no personality, even my Conservative friends don't care how effin 'woke' it is, they just want to play it. It demonstrates the lowest level of intelligence to complain about a popular piece of media being 'woke'.

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

It shows how chronically online they are that even people on their "side" don't care about half of this supposed wokeness lmao. Like I don't live in the most liberal town ever, but when the Mario movie came out, NOBODY I knew complained about Peach doing stuff or wearing the dreaded pants lmao. The only thing people complained about was that Luigi didn't do much. I wonder how many online conservatives actually know anything about their own party's values beyond the surface level.

[@-Hudie-]

Funny thing is that for the new spider-verse movie, they don’t know what to do about it so they just started panicking. some say that it’s garbage because of it’s “woke messaging” and others say that it’s “the first good woke film.” U can’t make this up💀

[@mhawang8204]

I’m rather conflicted about this though. It takes a universally praised Spider-Verse movie to show how ridiculous their cherrypicking is. Not all movies can be that good, so they can claim to be proven right so many times and the grift continues…

[@thepubknight6144]

​@@mhawang8204 That Super Mario's Bros, Wakanda Forever and Gotc vol 3 had them doing barbaric mental gymnastics to grift and make up critical "flaws"

[@eko9554]

Damn imagine what they think of Hobie Brown. You know he’s a punk and their music is very political.

[@ianlister7333]

being a Trekkie, the idea that previous Star Trek didnt used to be woke is my favourite.

[@LicoriceLain]

And once again, they are hijacking the convo and distracting from the real issue: new Trek is too action heavy / nonsensical. Trek was the nerdier, dialogue heavy counterpart to Star Wars.

[@thepubknight6144]

I'm a Star Wars fan and everyone of these anti woke channels that speak on it to out of their way to not being up that George Lucas said the Empire was based on the Nixon Administration/American imperialism and the Rebels were based on the Vietcong And their blaming Kathleen Kennedy for everything wrong with Star wars or Disney then flip when something they like in star wars they give her no credit for it despite she's an executive producer on all star wars projects And if anyone is to blame for how "bad" Disney is it's Bob Igor Oh and when i did mention him they move the goal post and downright deny it or claim he's just a suit He himself admitted he didn't want George Lucas' ideas in the sequel trilogy and that he forced plots to be put in the same Sequel trilogy But I guess blaming a woman and "Woke" politics is better for them to blame that, than a out of touch Rich Tycoon white man who can't read the room ..the type of man they all wish ruled this planet with an iron fist

[@ianlister7333]

@@thepubknight6144 my OG post was 3 months, but if there has been one thing to prove Disney is not woke, its the (now concluded) strike. There is nothing less woke, than a global company, trying to rip off its workers, and forcing them to strike.

[@tibocool1328]

Fun fact critical drinker acts like he’s a best selling author in the UK. I live in the Uk I never saw a book of his at the store. They’re just a bunch of terrible Tom Clancy ripoffs with bad writing and super cheesy strong male macho dudes saving the day. It’s so bad. He calls studios and filmmakers hacks, but his entire book series is a bargain bin hack series

[@AntonSmyth-od6rc]

So many adults getting upset about what are essentially kids movies.

[@alexslusher16]

Ok Social Justice Weirdo

[@AntonSmyth-od6rc]

@@alexslusher16 Case in point

[@fongdimbulator]

Ive seen comments on wokespotting grifter videos (thnk critical drinker / nerdrotic) which openly admit they won't even watch something if there's a POC on the promo art. Fully embracing the slippery slope from being mildly annoyed at perceived tokenism, to outright racism.

[@macaronipartynaptime]

LMFAO 🤣 IMAGINE NOT SEEING A MOVIE BECAUSE YOURE SCARED OF MELANIN 😭 😭 🤣

[@jasonkoroma4323]

@@macaronipartynaptime "Your skin tone...Its haunts me!" lmao

[@connordarvall8482]

@@macaronipartynaptime Good to know that I can destroy western civilisation by standing in the sun for too long.

[@lucypeace6132]

I guarantee if Peach wore a dress while carting they'd have been dragging her for wearing impractical clothing. It's pathetic.

[@toasterbunnie295]

that’s what they did with margot robbie’s harley quinn. in their minds, a dress is just as impractical as sequined underwear and the actress is dumb for complaining

[@heddelinpralin1481]

“It’s actually UNREALISTIC for her to wear a dress while driving that-“ oh Jesus Christ save it

[@jakeystarsuper]

Peach only wears her suit when shes on her motorcycle. She wears a dress in cart

[@devforfun5618]

we see that in jurassic world

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

on that note, the fact they cared about context when they were called out tells me absolutely everything I need to know about them when they do that style of content.

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

Anchorman is actually an example of an old movie managing to be more woke then the average blockbuster released today. The entire thing is a comedy about the first female news anchor at a station and her struggles to overcome obstacles to break the glass ceiling. The guys in the news station are portrayed as sexist pigs and they, not her, are the ones being made fun of with all of the jokes on them. Imagine the meltdown from anti woke people if that came out today. This goes beyond wokespotting to it being the entire point. Because the movie was very funny and wasn't marketed as a feminist movie, no one thought anything of it at the time

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

Well that's the thing it was made in the past so they don't notice that.

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

@@tobiaslawrence8928 I know, they don't count anything from before 2015 as woke. But I would love to hear someone try to explain how a comedy that's entire plot is about the first woman in a previously all male workplace having to fight against the sexism of her coworkers to succeed with the joke being on the sexist guys rather then her isn't woke

[@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead]

​​@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 they always reply with something like "it's about the execution, back then people didn't make movies to push an agenda!" and then can't explain why old political narratives aren't pushing an agenda lmao

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

@@every_planet_we_reach_is_dead The irony is that Anchorman had a much more overt feminist agenda then any of the Star Wars movies or Captain Marvel. Remember that those had strong women but they didn't go as far as actually addressing sexism in the workplace and making sexist guys the butt of all of these jokes.

[@mariedit9935]

I have noticed that some of the dudebro comedies made by Mckay and Apatow have antimisogyny messages even if the movies are about guys for guys to watch. It's nothing radical and some of their movies miss the mark, but I always found it interesting because it's different from those other comedies that poke fun at women for every little thing.

[@camzilla_does_music834]

The go woke go broke statement is so stupid when the biggest movies recently were basically woke, Barbie, Oppenheimer, everything everywhere all at once, there is plenty more.

[@alexslusher16]

Woke Wok (adj.) A state of awareness achieved only by people stupid enough to find injustice in everything except their own actions.

[@milkinobama8160]

@@alexslusher16don’t worry, I’m sure one of your replies ratio’d someone here.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@alexslusher16 Nope, it just means they're aware of injustices and won't let the Overclass get away with it

[@diamondmetal3062]

@@alexslusher16 Do these "actions" involve drinking from a water fountain a white guy also drank from?

[@alexslusher16]

@@milkinobama8160 ok Social Jusgice Weirdo

[@alexanderball6326]

I love how you use the critical drinker as a generic voice of unreasonable idiocy

[@jay2thaudy]

I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks critical drinker is a hack.

[@SymbiSpidey]

It annoys me how many people think his criticisms are valid when he's shown numerous times that he commits to hating something before he even watches it.

[@burn1none]

he's an actual grifter

[@mhawang8204]

@@SymbiSpidey He hides his U-turn more masterfully so people can claim that he is a reasonable and evenhanded critic, while his initial reaction can still lure in the chuds. You’ve got to admit he’s better at the grift than most.

[@biercenator]

His work is formulaic, and could be replaced with a chatGPT instance trained on a bundle of his scripts.

[@KevRyanCG]

He does a sit-com level impression of what it's like to be drunk

[@ajae...]

This is interesting. I'm a fan of the Jonathan Nolan series Person of Interest, and I finally got around to watching the updated version, Westworld. As the latter series went on I noticed public complaints of the producers bowing to wokeness and feminism because of so many women and POC lead characters as the series progressed. However, Person of Interest, which premiered in 2011 on CBS had significant women, POC, and queer characters. There was even even a fairly graphic sex scene with two women. Yet, no reactionary backlash. I had the same thoughts about the show being too early for woke attacks.

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

Since conservatives can't actually define "woke," it can, and does, mean whatever it needs to. That's why they can change the meaning without missing a beat the second a movie does well. They did it with Super Mario Bros. They did it with Top Gun Maverick. Kind of baffling that they were cool with Maverick despite it having a diverse cast and being clear government propaganda.

[@gman7497]

Because Tom Cruise, the weird Scientology guy, has become their lord and savior regarding entertainment, solely for being a prominent white actor who makes successful movies.

[@philw3039]

It had a diverse cast, but they were all supporting second-fiddles to the main heroes, who were all white straight men. That's type of non-threatening, non-status quo challenging diversity the anti-woke crowd well accept. Plus, there was a heavy dose of " 'Murcia" cheerleading too which helps.

[@philw3039]

@@KaleighCee Yep. And.... *Spoilers* Hangman single-handedly saving the day at the end.

[@ZachCook1397]

Shadiverity is the weirdest one to me. How do you go from videos about medieval weapons and armor to anti woke reactions

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

Well he is an moron with rigid gender view. He is a nerd for the middle ages because he see that as the perfect time where gender role where really understood. Going to anti-woke is just a small jump from there.

[@anthonyraymundobarron1255]

I remember watching a video of his back In the day. And it was about female armor I think or something about how realistic it is. Idk he might of found the views up and just kept going

[@orenjones237]

Views

[@mattmorehouse9685]

I think a large part of it is that many fans of antiquated weapons and armor idealize themselves as realistic and so the common conservative idea that all liberals are a bunch of idealist snowflakes has a deal of overlap. That and I think there's overlap between the "realism" grifters and political grifters.

[@mattmorehouse9685]

@@anthonyraymundobarron1255 Yeah, he made one on moulded breastplates where he says it's realistic, since some male armor had moulded codpieces. Completely downplays the fact that the moulded stuff was for show. Has anyone tried to ride a horse with a three inch metal tube in their crotch? I hazard a guess it's not practical. That and I think there is a tendency for some antiquity nerds to idealize the time periods they know about. The idea that things were better back then, because people suffered from dysentry and 80% of the population were near subsistence farmers.

[@koalasquare2145]

The best example is Stat Wars. The right paint the narrative that Star Wars is too political now, but it's gotten WAY less political. It used to be an anti-imperialist exploration into how fascism can grow out of liberal democracy. It literally based the villain off of right wing Nazism and American Imperialism. Now, it's about... Something about Palpatine returning, idk i haven't seen it.

[@FlushedNoob]

Now its politics are so bland to be more commercial. But even that crumb, that corporate-ified surface level politics is waayyy to woke for some people

[@ShadowOfTheVoid]

Agreed that a big reason the backpedaling is trying to save face in the wake of a "woke" movie being successful. Movies like Super Mario and Guardians Vol. 3 were supposedly "woke" and yet did not "go broke." The first big example I can recall of a film contradicting the "go woke, go broke" narrative was Captain Marvel. When that movie succeeded, many in the anti-woke crowd refused to admit they were wrong and instead proclaimed that the movie's success was actually a conspiracy where the movie actually bombed horribly, complete with factually-baseless anecdotes of empty theaters, and that Disney committed securities fraud by spending hundreds of millions of their own money to inflate the film's box office. It was a claim so ridiculous that I think the anti-woke crowd wouldn't want to risk becoming an even larger laughing stock when future films that they proclaim as "woke" prior to release end up becoming successful. So instead of proclaiming "conspiracy!" when a "woke" movies succeeds, now they just backpedal and try to say "Well, it's not *_really_* woke."

[@pizzarat3275]

I came across a video about Robocop where someone said it couldn't be made today because of wokeness. Robocop. I was like, "Have you ever actually thought about what that movie is about? It's woke AF."

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

Conservatives have no fucking media literacy.

[@justaghostinthesea]

They always look back on these films with rose-tinted glasses

[@thepubknight6144]

​​@@justaghostinthesea And the director is very open that Robocop was definitely progressive Rambo, definitely progressive, a war veteran who's thrown away like trash , cops find him and abuse him even more, gets back at them , the military and the rich men who profited at his plight and his fellow vets goes on a killing spree killing those responsible, his whole speech was about it not being his war and only they profit from war and death and they didn't even lift a finger...that's progressive Even the John Wayne cowboy films are progressive even though he's a conservative icon, he's literally beating down and killing the elite and the convicts they fund to protect women, kids and the elderly... fully progressive especially for that time in Cinema You're absolutely right

[@melanimatejak6821]

There is nothing woke about Robocop.

[@tigerchild3676]

@@melanimatejak6821yes there is

[@Unixnize]

If the last airbender came out today it would cause thousands of conservatives to die of aneurysms on the spot because of how "woke" it is.

[@TripleS-034]

a BLIND GIRL is better than everyone else at earthbending? WOKENESS OVERDOSE!

[@mox9076]

If the late 70's X-Men came out, it would make these anti woke activists go nuclear

[@svenm4740]

@@TripleS-034 not to forget they are all not white. The content of certain KZbin-Channels would be fairley predictable.

[@tkmothebe7631]

Wrong. ATLA was focused on telling a good story. They would see it for the good story that it is.

[@SorowFame]

@@tkmothebe7631 no, they really wouldn’t. They rage against literally anything that they perceive as woke regardless of quality already why would it be different for Avatar?

[@basicsimp8798]

Across the Spiderverse is the perfect Progressive/Woke film. Great representation, animation, music, characters, and story!! Love that in this film, they turned the initial reaction of some Spiderman Fans when Miles was introduced into a plot. "Not my Spiderman" they said. Miles was never supposed to be Spiderman but he did, and for me, that makes him the Best Spiderman. Can't wait for the finale!

[@rsdillbot3646]

Ngl recently I saw a shit ton of hate for miles and gwen with a commenter trying to say miles should have a African folklore name and base the villains around that.

[@basicsimp8798]

​@@rsdillbot3646I also read that the film is pushing for interracial romance agenda. Like, what!? Hahahaha. I can't help but just laugh at them.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Miles was always meant to be Spider-Man, what do you mean? Like, Stan Lee angrily defending him being Spider-Man from day one...

[@Jane-oz7pp]

​@@rsdillbot3646 As a mixed person, I love when people assume I have to relate only to my black family lol

[@miner556]

​@@Jane-oz7ppthey're talking about the plot of the movie not the comicbook miles

[@grapeshot]

It's always woke if the white guy isn't the center of attention at all the time, if he doesn't get the best lines in the movie or he doesn't get all the girls. Then they're going to deem it woke.

[@dfmrcv862]

I'm sorry but what? Who called the Harriet Tubbman film "woke"? Who called the Creed films woke? Woke as I've seen it used the most has more to do with seeing progressive values pushed in spite of the story, like how The Boys will stop the plot to rave about how BLM are good people or how The Last of Us dedicated an entire segment to discuss how Tommy's community was "communist".

[@literaterose6731]

Also if there’s an eighth of a second of anything that *might* be queer 🙄

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Where was the hate for Wonder Woman 2017 or Alita Battle Angel then?

[@grapeshot]

@@jeremyusreevu237 why was it going to be a white genocide because there was a black Stormtrooper?

[@jeremyusreevu237]

@@grapeshot No, no. You don't get to avoid the question. If there were so many people who think "white guy isn't the center of attention at all the time, if he doesn't get the best lines in the movie or he doesn't get all the girls=bad", then where was the hate for Wonder Woman 2017 or Alita Battle Angel? Why didn't those movies get that hate?

[@raaghavchhabra]

Thank you so much for existing bruv. These people are sooo annoying and you are rightfully calling them out

[@k.g.7591]

“Woke” seems to be a new word for “modern” meant to keep people from being overtly aware of the fact that they’re bitching because things aren’t the way they were. You know, like how old people do.

[@beans4126]

"woke" literally just means to be aware of prejudice or discrimination and these losers act like it's a bad thing

[@Geekboy7963]

Exactly, this is the perfect way to describe these grifters

[@eko9554]

It’s boomer mentality

[@thevikingbear2343]

Ok, wokespotting is a fun game. A New Hope is woke: Princess wears pants, refuses to be a damsel in distress, talks back to men, and saves the male heroes. What other beloved movies we can do wokespotting on?

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Freddy Got Fingered could be an interesting one to do wokespotting for.

[@thevikingbear2343]

Terminator 2 is woke because it shows a woman being stronger than men and recognizes mental illness and PTSD exist. (Remember when Fox said that recognizing PTSD and Mentla Illness exist is being Woke? They were talking about Barbies.)

[@thevikingbear2343]

Joker is woke because shows corruption, and that rich people don't care about the poor. Recognizes the importance of medical social programs, and that some people have no other way to get treatment. More so, it shows that mental health is important. It also showcases that people with disabilities have lesser job opportunities, and ends with a riot against the rich and powerful.

[@21stcenturyhiphop]

Here's the kicker: EVERY movie is "woke', because movies are usually about change. The characters, especially in good films, arc into better versions of themselves, and progressive characters work better in film, because people like to root for the underdog who goes against the power structure. The bigots don't understand that they are FOR the power structure. They're literally the villains.

[@theshire9173]

Not a movie, but the Portal games are very woke. The main protagonist is a disabled woman, the main antagonist is a clever female robot. The only two male characters I remember were a robot literally created to be an idiot and voice recordings of a delusional conspiracy theorist. I don’t remember everything because it’s been many years, but we know that the anti-woke grifters wouldn’t care

[@ninab.4540]

Maybe 75 year olds need to realise they don't rule the world anymore. Chill, and mad out.

[@Barber100Dr]

Remember how in Red Dwarf one of the main recurring characters, Holly, swapped genders between seasons and was even described as a sex change within the narrative itself and NOBODY batted an eyelid? If a show tried to do the same today you wouldn’t hear the bloody end of it!

[@stetsoncrobison]

What's even funnier about the Guardians response was that alongside the 'anti-woke' response. James Gunn got into an argument with someone online calling the film woke because Cosmo was voiced by a woman in the movie instead of a man lol

[@Blitzo8390]

They clearly did not understand the historical reference

[@jordanread5829]

It is weird how characters being gender swapped from women to men in an adaption is "fine" such as Cosmo. Cosmo is a male in the comics, while their real life counterpart was female. Then we have Laufey in the early Marvel comics and the first Thor movie. Laufey is Loki's Mother, not Father in norse myth. Yet Marvel gender swapped the character and these grifters are not angry at this. Yet when Mar-vel went from male to female for the Captain Marvel movie or the Ancient One in Doctor Strange, suddenly it is "woke". Cause Male -> Female is woke but the reverse is not.

[@Blitzo8390]

@@jordanread5829 Yeah, I’m starting to see it hiding something Also, they weren’t whining when Catwoman and Jim Gordon were raceswapped or when Liet-Kynes from Dune was race and gender swapped Yet when it was Ariel and Snow White, outrage!

[@thepubknight6144]

​​@@Blitzo8390 They only whined than Selena mentioned "Rich white guys" and slandered them , then defended Edward Nashton killing these same "Rich White men" who were partly responsible for many orphans deaths and abandonments They're so triggered by anything they deem makes any white man "bad" they don't ever realize THAT'S THE POINT OF THE FILM That's why they also hated batman because he knew it's more important that people see you going after the criminals who actually are ruining Gotham and corruption in politics and law enforcement people who actually affect lives and not small time criminals who yes are bad but overall aren't causing the citizens to be killed, blackmailed or living in constant fear Because they worship the very type of men Batman wants to rid Gotham of And that's also comic accurate In no way is Batman anti woke

[@Blitzo8390]

@@thepubknight6144 Yeah. Let’s not forget the Court of Owls which is run by the rich elites of Gotham

[@josephcain9445]

The Peach thing is so stupid. She was a playable character in the second main game of the series and has been playable in basically ever spinoff. Funnily enough, she actually gets treated much better by the developers than Zelda has, even though she's the princess most people would call the more feminist one. Peach gets to do things. Zelda may have more characterization, but the devs won't stop shoving her in the princess box for 99 percent of the game

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Yeah, I remember when people were complaining all about Peach at the start of the Mario trailer, and assumed it was just sexist bullshit. But then I saw the same types of people saying it was anti-woke, and I was just like dafuq?!

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@jeremyusreevu237 "I remember when people were complaining all about Peach at the start of the Mario trailer, and assumed it was just sexist bullshit" I don't remember that part, my feed was full of snowlakes crying about woke Peach and then doing 1984 level of rewriting their position.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Hey hey Lost Levels may not have released in the west but it's still a main game

[@Jane-oz7pp]

​@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Lost Levels did release on the All Stars + World cartridge didn't it? Or am I mistaken?

[@TripleS-034]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 "Peach is a girlboss but kids will love it!" But before you said she was a girlboss, Mario was a punching bag & Bowser was a simp? "No we didn't!"

[@mr_creatinator]

As a conservative, I feel that the term "woke" is slowly starting to lose its meaning the more it gets used to the point where everyone will think everything is woke unless it's a sequel to john wick or a tom cruise movie.

[@jasonkoroma4323]

lol exactly. Its more about faux outrage at this point.

[@saturationstation1446]

i can summarize the whole situation in a very small amount of words. "woke" is anything that isnt supportive of monarchy / eurocentric hegemony. and the fact that there are people out there who see having the capacity for critical thought and the ability to identify perpetrators of societal problems as a negative quality is crazy to me. they are screaming at the world that for the right price, they will say and believe anything. even if it means advocating for their own torture and murder lmao.

[@HistoricalFanatics]

I heard someone (who doesn’t call every film with a black guy in it woke but will call the most extreme cases woke) gave a definition like this: “the ethics of Marxism/socialism of class expanded to race gender, whatever”

[@SymbiSpidey]

The cherry picking these guys do is absolutely unreal. They'll talk about some woke agenda permeating throughout Hollywood when it comes to *gasp* a superhero movie having a female/black lead where a white man isn't at the center of everything, but they won't even address how projects like Batgirl with a black lead got completely canned, while the same exact company did everything in their power to make sure The Flash got released, despite its star actor having numerous legal issues. Or Cyborg's actor getting blacklisted from WB for calling out the racism he endured (and sexism he witnessed) during his time there.

[@jymbo1969]

Perhaps you are a moviebob fan?

[@kurtacus3581]

Ah but you see, batgirl got cancelled because WB recognized the WoKeNeSs that they were forcing down their throats. Hiring a black woman to play batgirl was just way too wOkE for general audiences and the decided to cancel before they went broke. (This is legitimately the reasoning i heard from weirdos justifying the Batgirl thing)

[@Jayfive276]

@@jymbo1969 That's the best you've got for a counter-argument?

[@jymbo1969]

@@Jayfive276 not at all. I also like moviebob. I intended neither insult nor argument. Indeed, I agree with everything the OP wrote.

[@thesteelsquid863]

​@@jymbo1969good ending :D

[@KingOfMadCows]

It is funny how they call GotG 3 anti-woke when they were the ones who tried to cancel James Gunn when he criticized Trump. Then they tried to cancel Gunn again for rebooting the DCU. Plus Gunn is pretty outspoken about his politics and he's definitely not with the anti-woke crowd. At this point, they just attribute movies that don't do well to it being woke rather than problems with the writing or directing that have nothing to do with "woke." There have been plenty of bad movies or box office bombs that didn't have women or minority leads. Saying that a movie like Eternals didn't do well solely because it was woke makes as much sense as saying that The Mummy, Wrath of the Titans, the Ben Hurr remake, John Carter, etc. did badly because they had male leads.

[@justaghostinthesea]

And speaking of the DC reboot, it's looking to be one of the most "woke" (read: non-conservative) things ever. Hell, Creature Commandos is the first thing in the DCU coming out and it includes a robot whose purpose is to kill Nazis

[@shadowninja6689]

Movie Theory released a video in the last few months about this, investigating if "go woke go broke" is actually true for movies. The answer, no it's not there's basically zero correlation between "woke elements" and how well the movie does financially. He also pointed out that there's a lot of other mistakes Hollywood and the studios have been making of late that are likely to be much bigger contributing factors to their current woes.

[@justaghostinthesea]

@@shadowninja6689 Will check it out

[@thepubknight6144]

People should ask Ben Shapiro since two of his films bombed at the box office, was it because they were "woke"?

[@melanimatejak6821]

Having a female lead doesn't make movie woke.

[@SicklySweetBeast]

It’s extremely creepy and alarming to see a grown man watching a princess peach movie that’s made for young children and then see him start complaining about her wearing pants.

[@JCCyC]

"WOKE! WOKE! WOKE!" "Uh oh, the movie actually did well with both critics and public. A movie we declared woke can under NO circumstances be successful!" "ANTI-WOKE! ANTI-WOKE! ANTI-WOKE! WE ALWAYS SAID THAT!"

[@colonelweird]

You could push this idea even further. If you squint a little, you can uncover wokeness in practically anything - Gone With the Wind, Stagecoach, Spartacus, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, you name it. I've never seen Birth of a Nation, but I'm tempted to watch it just to discover the early glimmers of wokeness 😂😂😂😂.

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

Star Wars is pretty easy to find wokeness considering the main plot is about the fight against fascism

[@stargate4625]

@@zinkheroofyoutube8004 and it has a black guy!

[@thevioletbee5879]

@@stargate4625 Two if you count the voice for Vader.

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

@@stargate4625 Oh my god, and a woman who wears pants 😱

[@SymbiSpidey]

George Lucas has been pretty open about the fact that Star Wars was influenced by leftist ideology, with RotJ overtly being a parallel to the Vietnam War. Makes it all the more funny when these chuds claim to be massive Star Wars fans and yet complain about new Star Wars content being too "woke". For F's sakes, in ANH when Leia meets Luke and Han, one of the very first things she does is bust Han's balls and immediately pick up a blaster and start mowing down Stormtroopers. A scene they would absolutely hate if it came out today.

[@mattwilson8298]

Thank you for inserting "breasting boobily" into my lexicon. I can now die, knowing that this phrase will live on.

[@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez]

Shad is actually pretty sad. He tried the same attack on Peach with Elden Ring, and it got debunked, then he poorly tried to defend himself, and seeing it with Elden Ring is sad, because it means that he doesn't have any alternative way to engage with people criticizing him for making stipid and blatantly false comments.

[@MeddlSchamane]

I'm going to keep this short. I've been really down lately and this constant whining about wokeness everywhere has been getting to me more than usual. So I really needed to hear these points you where making in your video. Thank you.

[@superpiktwo5933]

Ive been seeing these "everything is now woke its ruining (insert movie, game, show, etc)" channels pop up on my feed for the last few years and it's been... Well, they're definitely videos. I'm excited to see how you tackle this! After your last Miles Morales video, I'm confident this will be a good one

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Yes. Videos that critique the forced pandering and pretentious virtue signaling of our modern society

[@DarthTingleBinks]

​@@jeremyusreevu237But they don't. Rippaverse made a whole ass video complaining about a trans flag in the Across the Spiderverse trailer that was shown for like 3 seconds. Nerdrotic just screams "WOMAN!" whenever he sees one. And Geeks+Gamers wastes his time trying to seem like a normal guy who isn't secretly bigoted toward everyone when it's like painfully obvious he is just that. Also, you're correct. It is "forced" in the sense that they are intentionally allowing minorities who previously were restricted the opportunities that white actors got to now have those same opportunities. But they're not shoving a message down your throat by casting minority actors if that's what you're implying.

[@Intr0vertical]

​@jeremyusreevu237 if all you do on your yt channel is complain about diversity and inclusion then you just want to complain for the sake of complaining. They are grifters. They can't define what wokeness is. Can't name woke movies or non woke ones. They pick and choose whatever puts the most cash in their pockets

[@alephmale3171]

@@jeremyusreevu237 I think their Vice-signaling is worse than virtue signaling.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@jeremyusreevu237 they don't and at this point denying when dumbos can't even dog whistle properly is clear display of ones lack of own media literacy.

[@Mulletdog1]

I saw the nebula outfit (didn’t see it as anything but something a regular person would wear) and never registered in my mind that it would be “woke” at all. I’ve been off the marvel train so that might be why I missed the “controversey”

[@Jayfive276]

I just assumed Nebby was wearing more casual clothes because post-Endgame there were no battles to be getting on with.

[@thesteelsquid863]

Which is ironic bc I found her attractive in the third one whereas I didn't really as much in the others 🤔

[@hihi-sj8wd]

I thought taking your kids to work day, is supposed to be an awesome bonding opportunity, especially when your kids share the same talents and interests, how can people be mad at Peter taking Mayday across SPIDERVERSE?!😢

[@nataliadeavilapires2136]

"This Man is 45 years old." I died

[@jahcode6132]

I used to love Mario Kart until they came out with "rainbow road".

[@PillarofGarbage]

woke agenda gone mad fr

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Real talk though, rainbow road does suck as a track. I hate how easy it is for you to fall off the road, it's so annoying!

[@CSXIV]

"I hate you Mario Kart because of Rainbow Road! I mean, how many times am I going to fall off this track? Can I complete one damn lap without the Lakitu pulling me put of the abyss? ...wait, you thought this was about the track bring woke? The only woke on this track is when I woke my neighbors when I fell off this track for the FIFTH time! Come on, Nintendo, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT THIS?"