THE EMPERORS PLAN REVEALED! IT'S ONLY JUST BEGUN!

[@shaggygoatboy1125]

Remember how Chaos persuaded Horus? By showing him a future where the Emperor was worshipped as a God. And, ironically enough, that's exactly what the Horus Heresy ended up causing. If you stay quiet and listen carefully, you can hear Tzeentch laughing in the distance.

[@custink22]

Then getting distracted by something shiny for the next three millenia...

[@midgetydeath]

Maybe Tzeentch is the Emperor and everything really is just as planned.

[@BlackenedGold]

yoooooooooooooo

[@crystalchild2423]

@@midgetydeath hello, inquisitor..this man.. here....

[@Dr.s3RTH]

That's heretical talk right there pal

[@LuisPandabmb]

Emperor with a cigar in hand: I love it when a plan comes together.

[@AIpharius]

Alpha mike

[@grozwald]

Vulcan: I ain't getting on no Thunderhawk.

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

Someone is on that jazz!

[@mikemoore2791]

Said from interior of a flying (falling) tank, which fires its main gun...

[@toastie8173]

Also tzeench when literally anything happens:

[@austindow9850]

Honestly, I love art of the Primarchs actually wearing their helmets and it's a crying shame that there's not much of it.

[@Motorius9000]

More helmeted primarchs requested!

[@gadrielvanorion9872]

i prefer many of them with helmets lion alpharius guilliman i rly like the choice if you want a helm or not

[@Dreadbringer]

I completly agree battle brother, More helmeted Primarchs please.

[@dennisnordlund902]

@@gadrielvanorion9872 same here, besides, going to battle without helmet is plain stupid and nothing a demigod should do!

[@fmbrown8566]

I want to see more of the khans dragon helm

[@956device9]

"None of the primarchs shall return. " "All of the primarchs shall return." Tzeentch lol

[@HunterSentinel]

I mean, for literally all of his existence he and his fellow chaos gods have been in charge doing their thing over and over again. Tzeench even almost won at one but gave up and purposefully lost so the great game could continue....... except that doesn’t exactly sound like the god of change does it?...... you know what would be the ultimate change..... if none of the chaos gods won if instead one of them betrayed the others and worked with their anathema..... if that god of change finally fulfilled his single and most important reason for existing..... to scheme and EXECUTE a change in the status quo..... No bigger change or plan than to ascend from one chaos god into another by the BIGGEST CONSPIRACY possible and helping to execute a evolutionary death March of the human race towards a future of species wide godhood..... a fusion of the chaos realm and the material plane. No longer would there be a single realm hard separated by reality since everysingle human of the unumbered trillions being a god tier psycher who can but with a thought will reality to bend at his whisper. The empire would then be able to expand beyond our Galaxy and into other for ever onwards.

[@thefallencog]

@@HunterSentinel I mean. This is a long established Fallacy to Tzeentch. For all the scheming, all the (debatable) tactical genius. He could care less how plans live or die, fail or succeed. His pleasure is the scheme. He would equally scheme a convoluted plan that involves him destroying himself, or sacrificing other chaos gods as equally likely as he would plan the destruction of any poor souls to wander to close to his domain(s). Tzeentch will always be an interesting chaos god because all he does is plan and half ass execute overly elaborate and convoluted plans, only to randomly abandon them halfway through when he gets bored... sometimes. He's as much of a threat to himself as he is to others, and he enjoys that part of the game more then anything

[@anthony_pr1033]

Hey hey people

[@Moadar]

@@HunterSentinel Chaos gods are formed by the thoughts and emotions of living beings right? So there are more stupid people than smart in the universe. Tzeench could be the chaos god of stupid schemes.

[@ryanadams0922]

Emperor playing reverse psychology on Tzeentch. Tzeentch: clever girl

[@l.greenwood8096]

The scariest thought of all. The Emperor has no clue what he is doing and is making the plan up as he goes along. And he is succeeding. Against everything being thrown at him he is still succeeding.

[@midgetydeath]

That actually would be a good idea. Considering Tzeentch is the god of schemes if you're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it will stick while relying on sheer blind zealotry to deal with the rest of Chaos it just might work. Sure, Tzeentch is literally made of every though to ever exist past, present, and future BUT the Emperor is likely immune due to his anti-Chaos nature. If he planned properly, though, Tzeentch would doubtless notice the pieces coming together and figure it out easily. But if you don't have a plan but do have basically infinite resources and godlike genius?

[@Nexus9118]

That would be ironic. Defeating Chaos Gods by having chaos.

[@zeehero7280]

@@Nexus9118 Fight fire with fire chaos with chaos

[@y.b4251]

That's the nature of collective creation IP. Some writers combined and decide what is selling, hence making it.

[@TonkarzOfSolSystem]

@@midgetydeath As Terry Pratchett put it: "Plans can break down. You cannot plan the future. Only presumptuous fools plan. The wise man steers."

[@BillBrasky5351]

The emperor's pyshic projection finding and giving a strategic hug to the demon primarchs would doom chaos overnight.

[@chasedavison5023]

Lol

[@Zanderguard]

That's Vulkans mission.

[@conan2096]

emperor hugs bloodthirster who is in shock that hes still alive "no one will ever believe you"

[@BillBrasky5351]

Magnus: I will destroy u corpse God! Emperor: Wanna play a game of catch... Son? Magnus: *breaks down crying

[@Dreadbringer]

Jajajajajaja no one would expect such a radical movement.

[@commanderfarsight2351]

Emperor on throne to Custodes: "What do you make of this, Omegon?" Custodes to Emperor: "Looks like a plan, Alpharius"

[@ThatGuy-uw3yf]

What a fucking long play that would be 😂

[@SamGarcia]

Pillar men theme plays?

[@thegodofspeed23]

So the Emperor and a random custodies are the twins. Where is Big E

[@thecommentguy9380]

@@thegodofspeed23 they stole Big E, then the ravens stole him

[@declanedmison5442]

@@thegodofspeed23 He’s on vacation, Alpharius and Omegon are covering for him.

[@koatam]

To quote a certain indecisive mollusk "Everything is going... JUST... AS... PLANNED!"

[@uncletzeentch2282]

Im allways decisive in my indecisiveness.

[@MWH12085]

Yep, I got it all figured....just matter of things falling into place.

[@wu1ming9shi]

@@MWH12085 It's falling alright... XD

[@voodooozo3755]

"All acording to keikaku"

[@wu1ming9shi]

@@voodooozo3755 What's that from again? I can't remember what that's from.

[@thegrandadmiral471]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Malcador is just chilling in his Imperial basement

[@Max-zr7hr]

Right, and the only reason he hasn't helped this whole time is because Erda locked the basement door because she was sick of the emperor not respecting her ideas. "Oops I'm such a pisces lol" - Erda for the past ten thousand years.

[@robnixon8832]

That last line killed me. Of course Erda is a pisces 😂

[@ekulerudamuru]

@@robnixon8832 what about pisces?

[@chegorilla1468]

Gulliman opens the door and is gobsmacked seeing Malcador watching Imperial sitcoms in his robes and underwear. "Oh shit! It's Rob, Cheezit!" Malcador exclaimed. Before Gulliman could respond his train of thought is interjected by, "QUICK! This way!". As Gulliman turns his head he finds himself face to face with Valdor. Valdor throws a tray of pizza rolls at Gulliman as he sprints towards Malcador before the two jump into a pocket dimension. Gulliman picking pizza rolls out of his suit thinks to himself, "What in the Warp was that?"

[@pipes9878]

@@chegorilla1468 pmsl 🤣👍

[@thecommentguy9380]

Everyone is playing regicide, but Big E and Malcador be playing 40kD chess

[@emirhaneksioglu4503]

They are playing battlemace42 million

[@apollyon2007]

U mean paradox billiard vostroyan hypercube chess strip poker

[@davidfranks5369]

@@apollyon2007 I see your too are kultured

[@stephenmeji3057]

@@apollyon2007 you've activate my trap card, kitten.

[@standarddeviation7963]

Malcador's version of chess requires prerequisites in advanced linear algebra and non linear non ordinary differential equations.

[@robertmuggeridge4736]

I don't think it was ever his true plan, but he is the master of adaptation and probably very quickly came up with a backup plan, playing the long game.

[@JHBrune]

Just like mankind itself. Never give up. I like that.

[@davidthomas2870]

No plan survives first contact with the enemy. A good plan adapts. A good plan is not defeated when the everything goes wrong

[@koatam]

plans within plans within plans.

[@doomguy9049]

Yeah seems unlikely he'd purposely have himself confined to the throne in unimaginable agony and a state of undeath for 11k years, but he's playing the hand he's been dealt

[@LordInter]

look at what girlyman can do and he only has a part of what The Big E has

[@00yiggdrasill00]

Big E just got my respect. He knew the hell that awaited him and walked right into it to give hope and a chance. God or not, I'll worship someone like that over chaos any day.

[@danielstephenaguilos9346]

Fuck yeah, brother! For the Emperor!

[@bigsqueeze7231]

Jesus did just that.

[@jmvt3]

Plan A: Great Crusade Plan B: become a god.

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

I think this will be shown in the siege of Terra novels. As it's kind of hinted.

[@4myzelf]

I imagine Big E going "Guys for the last time, I AM NOT A GOD!!! Seriously!?...Fuck it, you want a god, I'll give you a god."

[@hurpderp1430]

@@4myzelf he did that on monarchia.

[@thechazz3230]

@@4myzelf Well yeah. It's likely he set up Lorgar to fall so he could have the Quintillions of humans spread across the galaxy constantly pray to him and make him stronger.

[@thechazz3230]

@Mean Bob Right now. Even before ascending, Big E is the strongest God in the setting. In M32 The Eldar literally shit themselves over how he made Slaanesh look like a weakling. Him fusing with the Star Child would make him arguably on the level of Chaos Undivided.

[@davebowman9000]

As we all know The Emperor is an great player of Paradox-billiards-vostroyan-roulette-fourth dimensional-hypercube-chess-strip poker, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was just the beginning of His plan

[@maxmoore970]

remember he got beat by kitten, and kitten beat tzentch........ sooo 😂😂

[@midgetydeath]

Kitten won.

[@Joust149]

This has been my assumption since getting in to 40K. "The Board is Set" isn't a phrase you use at the end of a game. The mistake was thinking the Heresy was the climax, but really it was just the opening moves

[@changer_of_ways_999]

And Tzeentch's opening move was to get a bunch of shaman to make his winning piece.

[@jacob414]

@@changer_of_ways_999 I believe the Emperor is Tzeentechs winning piece and losing piece, as the Big E is the reason Tzeentech has thrived for a while, but Big E is a double bladed sword, he will betray Big T as he already has, and Big E can achieve victory and destroy Big T

[@giocrypt5148]

Chaos has no plan, hence chaos

[@catosicarius445]

His grand plan is of course I Cato Sicarius

[@phantomwraith1984]

Fuck sake

[@DanielWW2]

Yes Sicarius, you are indeed part of the plan. Now, rapport to Marneus Calgar because he wants to demonstrate you a new combat technique he was thought by the Emperor himself, with Guilliman as his proxy...

[@danielharris3036]

I have heard of you....an ego so large that the emperor is taking notice and he IS NOT impressed. I may not be a Custodes, or an Ultramarine, as my Chapter is kept secret but we fight in our lord Emperor's name. We know your exploits and deeds, while they are impressive a little bit of humility would go along way to ensure that upon your Ascension to the Rank of Chapter Master, it will help give you wisdom. Something which the great Marneus Calgar forgets himself. Humility within great triumphs will allow you to maintain a coherent and modest outlook within our galaxy and within, future battles against the enemies of man. Be humble, and remain Sharp honourable Battle brother....and cousin.

[@12NuKe21]

Cato, get closer, a mission had arrived for you, get closer to hear it, into the area of effect of my power FIST !!!

[@ryansauchuk7290]

*ultra sigh*

[@cameronhollis1002]

Emperor - “Call an ambulance...but not for me!”

[@bc3f4a]

😂

[@irishspartanstudios]

Emperor: *Moves Piece To End Of The Board, Flips It Over, Its Guilimans Face* Shadowy Figures: *Gasp* Emperor: *Looks Up, Smiles* Your move...

[@dikkie1000]

Who told you Big E was finished with this round?

[@LilacMage]

YEEES, grow strong again so that the orks can grow stronger fighting you and return to the "primork" state. Qorks

[@URKCEHinoSuu]

@@LilacMage krorks

[@ulrickguiliman4810]

@@URKCEHinoSuu Lads

[@alphariusfuze8089]

*Suprise Tzeentch noise*

[@darksider2903]

Dorn will return with huge army, valdor will free that healer goddess from nurgle to heal Emperor then Eldars will be allies, Russ will wake up lion, emperor will revive Sanguinius and show path to Khan out of webway, Sanguinius will ally necron lord, Eldars will wake up their god of death and then they will have a party.

[@claytonthegrubkiller6430]

@James Gallarelli lots of ultramarines

[@claytonthegrubkiller6430]

Not even considering the harlequins and how close they're to killing Slanesh

[@darksider2903]

@James Gallarelli if Sanguinius returns, necron lord will be ally as he said to Dante that he wanted his lord's partnership to deal with space bugs. Combined power of imperium, necron and eldar can get rid of many problems lol

[@minuette1752]

@@claytonthegrubkiller6430 Slannesh will never die.

[@craynak]

Sadly the Emperor gave Magnus a choice. Doom your son’s and get redemption or forever be dammed. He knew Magnus love for his son’s yet still forced him to make that choice,

[@RedRam_Menhtrol]

Rogal Dorn: I was being dead... In pretend

[@SH-qs7ee]

Iron Warrior: "But you're dead!" Rogal Dorn (In Shepard's from Mass Effect's voice) "I got better"

[@ale_9891]

" my death was greatly exaggerated"

[@someimperialfist1404]

The imperial fist are well known for great imagination, we need to see the fortress and or battlements before we even start construction. But that’s just from my point of view.

[@covahredro8370]

Rogal Dorn has fortified himself against death.

[@ScooterinAB]

Love it.

[@vraska8799]

Guilliman: "I am Alpharius" Emperor: "hydra dominatus"

[@jordanwhite9733]

Fucking luld, I just finnished the new alpharius book and my god, he may be my favorite primarch! lol

[@clementbianchini8651]

Heil Hydra ! Wait... wrong universe or is that?

[@dagnirglaurunga1620]

😂😂😂😂

[@jinzo1171]

“I meant to do that” - the emperor of mankind, and every injured skateboarder

[@Judge_of_Anubis05]

The primarchs are returning and the astartes are being bolstered and through it all the emperor of mankind is now preparing to step off the golden throne for the final fate defying push not just against chaos but against a galaxy that wants to bring humanity to its knees.

[@TR-ut3yh]

Well said

[@jaegerbomb269]

I want Corvus Corax back. One can dream.

[@LordInter]

technically he ain't gone though 😊

[@thecommentguy9380]

Big E waking up lion: wake the fuck up Primarch... We got an Eye of Terror to burn.

[@claydud271]

@@thecommentguy9380 I mean that’s not relevant to corax but yeah

[@gagetaylor54]

Man’s a shadow demon now, hunting Lorgar and his bitch boys. Honestly, he’s probably the reason Mr. L is still “meditating” in his chaos pocket dimension.

[@claydud271]

@@gagetaylor54 i think corax is still just fucking with logar, every time he tries to leave his house his at the door,the window, the chimney. Just totally fucking with his chi

[@silentprophet777]

"Look Alivia, I know it looks bleak, but we're gonna sell a *ton* of figurines"

[@grotoiler6104]

lol, even more when they release Alivias female marines, it's coming....

[@Dreeam972]

@@grotoiler6104 ?

[@grotoiler6104]

@@Dreeam972 Space marines created from an eternals DNA, like the emp, she will usher in Fem-marines

[@thegodofspeed23]

There is a fan fiction that’s call messages for dad and Alicia is actually the primarchs mother. The fanfic is about papa Smurf having a kid with yvarine and many other primarchs have kids

[@andrewhowell8610]

Even Eldrad has said that reading the future is fraught with peril. I believe the Emperor had a plan and it failed with the Heresy. Then, he divined a new way and decided that the 40k universe was the only way through the storm.

[@treacheroustiger5571]

I remember in The Master of Mankind BigE told one of his Custodians something like this "Future sight is like climbing a cliff. You can see all the rocks, but only know which ones will not hold your weight until they break" For me this was a metaphor for his primarchs sons. Which one would break and which could carry his legacy forward was alway uncertain, but he planned for every outcome just incase.

[@RA10H56]

Everything is proceeding as I have forseen.....

[@alt-monarchist]

Wrong Fucking Emperor! Heretic!!!

[@toasty5296]

it's all going according to the prophecy

[@cesarlenai4297]

Gooooood...

[@pastnastification69]

Well played. . . FUCK you. . . But well played

[@Alpharius708]

The emperor always has a plan, says I Cato Sicarius.

[@DanielWW2]

I really hope it involves Marneus Calgar preforming the Imperial Fisting...

[@alkazaronyx8599]

Go find Captain Titus, the one who truly deserves your position

[@cbrando190]

@@alkazaronyx8599 Agreed, find Titus.

[@Alpharius708]

Captain who, 😏

[@cbrando190]

@@Alpharius708 lol

[@ronaldbos9345]

Basically, even after his enthronement, the emperor never stopped playing 4D chess.

[@the.nerd.knight2078]

i think you mean 5th dimensional chess with multiverse time travel

[@celticfox]

"King me" the Emperor's voice boomed. "W-what?" Tzeentch blinked quizzically at the Emperor. "We're playing ches-" " *I SAID KING ME* " the warp shook with His fury, as tears rolled down the color-shifting face of Tzeentch. At last, the Emperor had put his final pawn into play...

[@voytek6520]

Emperor has XBox connected to him so he can play all the time, while saving humankind

[@captainvalourous6668]

You mean that children's card game where he lost to a talking banana who once had a Tau girlfriend? 😅

[@SIyMarbo]

dont you mean Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker?

[@BrotherFlint]

The Lion, the Wolf, and the Raven, will return.

[@Dreadbringer]

Im all up for them to bring the war to the enemies of.mankind.

[@erichoughton4128]

Vulcan!

[@jonaski08]

The enemies of mankind will shit themselves if this happens

[@jamiemitchell6177]

And the hydra....

[@coledilbeck551]

@@jamiemitchell6177 I'm a Lion kinda guy myself but one can hope that he does. Confirmed Loyalist Alpha Legion would be a infinite IQ play

[@kccustodes2618]

Rho, I believe you are 100% right, the Emperor saw all this and knew it would happen and there is a "plan". There were references to the Emperor losing his humanity in Valdor: Birth of the Imperium. The Emperor implies directly to Valdor that he will lose his humanity but to not worry. Later in the story during a conversation between Malkador and Valdor, it is Malkador that says he was shocked when the Emperor referred to the Primarchs as his sons and that there might actually be lingering attachment remaining but is unsure of how long it will last. Valdor responds with a question, something to effect, "his humanity is leaving him?" and Malkador responds with, "as he predicted and all things have their price".

[@hansyolo8277]

Big E when G-Man walked into the throne room, proving his gamble was right: YEAHHHH BABYYYY!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[@randomizedrandomizer2533]

"that's what I've been waiting for!"

[@mpcrauzer]

Rise and shine

[@Kaida760]

G - Man "Prepare. For unforeseen consequences"

[@bgcvetan]

Send the Ultramarines to get Magnus for spanking 'cuz doing "the nothing wrong"

[@Alpharius708]

Or just send me😏

[@skywatcheradept]

Ultramarines already beat Magnus at Luna when Guilliman returned.

[@DoomStarRequiem]

@@skywatcheradept well there is that shard of Magnus that is loyal.. although it's been 10,000 years since the HH and the founding of the knights errant. Maybe they'll find a way to take that shard of Magnus and shove it down traitor magnus body and with the help of Vulkan purge Magnus of the Corruption.

[@mpcrauzer]

@@DoomStarRequiem and also hurt Tzzeinch in the process, that would be amazing

[@aweshetdima2157]

@@mpcrauzer We all know that if you poke Tzeentch with a big flaming sword long enough, he'll poop out Magnus's soul to get you to stop.

[@johnmerrickAN]

More proof is in Belisarius Cawl, when cawl's mind is absorbed by his captor & he overpowers him he remembers a conversation with the emperor before he ascended the throne where he calls him cawl & the guy is confused. The E is having a conversation with cawl in the far future while the guy he is actually speaking with has no idea what he is saying & why he calls him this.

[@m.k.2455]

Rho pulling every effort to not say "Everything is going... JUST. AS. PLANNED!!!!"

[@dikkie1000]

We've got the Throne Emperor and the Fyodperor to do that. And it's a plan based on everyone making terrible descisions.

[@edgarsantos3034]

Keikaku doori

[@trickeyjamie]

Big E is just waiting for Kitten to install his TTS device

[@azrealelric5101]

I think this is why Valdor is being revealed. The fact that Alpharius that was killed was Omegon, that their is an Alpharius traveling with Einhorn and even the gifting of the beacon to the Alpha Legion by Saint Celestine on behalf of the Emperor, all is about to open to change...

[@Motorius9000]

That would be brilliant. Hydra Dominatus.

[@skywatcheradept]

Also Alpharius appears in siege of Terra: Mortis novel and collaborates with John Grammaticus and Oll Person. They also speak of the secret language of Enuncia from the Eisenhorn books.

[@24dasr]

nope Eisenhorn is one of the most powerful and well known inquisitors, but that doesn't mean he can long long enough to see Guilliman return. He is certainly going to die in the last bequin novel, in a bid to help the rest of his allies escape. It doesn't help that he himself doesn't want to live anymore either.

[@rosstully5960]

I don't read that scene as the Emperor planning. Insee it as The Emperor giving the Malcador the bad news, "Yeah mate, we are going to plug you into the throne so I can go fight. It is going to kill you"

[@AbadonXXX]

Second millennium emperor with a voice recorder after watching second season of jojo’s bizarre adventure: a reminder to future self so he remembers this, I have outsmarted your outsmarting tzeentch

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Just as tzeentch planned! He needed the emperor to out smart his out smarting so tzeentch could out smart the emperor!!!

[@Zazar-g9l]

I merely outsmarted him in outsmarting me so that I can outsmart his outsmarting and outsmart myself, that way, I can outsmart him !

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

@@Zazar-g9l And all so you can out smart him after he out smarts your outsmarting after you outsmart his out smarting so you can outsmart everyone

[@Zazar-g9l]

@@Prophetofthe8thLegion You are already outsmarted

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

@@Zazar-g9l Which means there was a time where I wasn't which means i''ve outsmarted you which means you have outsmarted me! GLORY TO TZEENTCH

[@James_randomleters]

“Confirmed dead.” Like that couldn’t be mcguffined with ease.

[@SIyMarbo]

Emps TTS: wait wut kitten: you planned this all along?? your greatness has no bounds Emps: huh? what plan?? o.O oh yes that plan *has no fucking clue wtf kitten is going on about*

[@faerryn8708]

Sasuga Emperor-sama!

[@fabiochristiaan1128]

lmaooo that gives me overlord vibes :)

[@Psike81]

"10000 years will give you such a creak in the neck!" -Genie- *Big E*

[@custink22]

"After 10000 years im free! Its time to conquer the galaxy" big E after his tv got stuck on the opening song of mighty morphin power rangers for the last 8000 years because some admech peon plugged in the wrong wire...

[@beardthebartender7644]

@@custink22 it helps drown out the constant chanting from Ultramar

[@justinbriley2531]

"a plan is just a list of things that aren't going to happen." - way of the gun

[@Ork20111]

Plans are useless, planning is indispensable - General Eisenhower

[@madginger3634]

KHAN, VULKAN, DORN, LION, RUSS, CORAX! Back to work!

[@Dreadbringer]

Please!

[@Spectre2V]

Spoiler: they are all Alpharius

[@StrixNebulosa_mk1]

The big E and Omegon were and have been in cahoots the whole time. Remember he was the only son that remained behind after they were spread throughout the galaxy, with all his tutelage. They had and have a plan.

[@HandlesAreStupid2024]

I suggest you read the new Alpharius novel for an update on your theory ;)

[@StrixNebulosa_mk1]

@@HandlesAreStupid2024 I heard like 15 minutes after this post. I am in shock really. We will see what these new developments mean moving forward with plenty of interest. But dang, I have to get the audio book now. I'm sad but attempting to be indifferent all at once.

[@danielstephenaguilos9346]

@@StrixNebulosa_mk1 Why, what happened?

[@StrixNebulosa_mk1]

@@danielstephenaguilos9346 I certainly will not be posting spoilers. You need to give GW your money to gain access to that information. If you love the 20th legion than it will be worth understanding.

[@danielstephenaguilos9346]

@@StrixNebulosa_mk1 Alright, I understand. But the concept is insane though.

[@claytonthegrubkiller6430]

Not even mentioning the yellow king (Constantine) and how he has some immeasurable army of everything you can imagine stored somewhere and that he's going to use it at some point

[@GabrielLopez-mo2xo]

Constantine really is just in a pocket dimension like "okay any day now papa will tell me I can play with my new toys"

[@em4rtzz]

What book or source is this from?

[@mduckernz]

@@em4rtzz Penitent

[@claytonthegrubkiller6430]

@@em4rtzz just search for Constantine/yellow king

[@em4rtzz]

@@claytonthegrubkiller6430 ty sir

[@Kimchiboy08]

10,000 years is but a blink in the eyes of the Emperor. For there is no slumber, no weariness, no night nor day for such beings.

[@tobiworldwide]

Waiting for the latest Captain-General of the Custodes to install his acheo-text-to-speech device

[@Dadecorban]

In the Last Church the Emperor responds to the question of why he deserves to be a tyrant......and responds something along the lines of "Only I know the narrow path of the future that must be walked"

[@Horus_the_Lupercal]

Yey. Brothers returning. My favorite.

[@walkwithoutrhythm9858]

TF have you been the past 10,000 years?

[@Horus_the_Lupercal]

Fortifying my position. Not sure where that is, but it is well fortified.

[@HuntersOfTheNorth1]

Rogal, go out and into the sunlight, your vitamin deficiency is becoming a emergency. You are going insane.

[@garypatterson2857]

Hopefully you can come back and lend a hand...

[@imperialplebian2547]

Haha... ha... Get out 👉🏼🚪

[@PhynixDS]

If I can't kill the Chaos gods as a man, let me kill them as a god!.... don't forget the terminus decree the Grey Knights have, such a wild card...

[@kupper123]

Hail the golden king. Hail the lord of lightning. HAIL THE ONE TRUE GOD OF MANKIND.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

@James Gallarelli Yeah. Black Templars and the Inquisition are in for a rude awakening considering how harsh Big E was with his son for evangelizing with force.

[@phantomwraith1984]

I'd love if the return of Corvus resulted in the death of Lorgar. Guiliman and Daemon primarch corvus tag team fatality Lorgar as he's trying to escape from one through a warp rift

[@hansyolo8277]

ohhhh, or better yet, not just Daemon Primarch Corvus... Imperial Daemon Primarch Corvus, like the imperial daemons or whatever it is that Valdor is collecting.

[@BBlueu2]

Lorgar will liberate mankind from the tyranny of the false god and his slaves. Chaos will win in the end 🙏😈

[@daverage4729]

"Olivia sees the grim darkness of the future, she sees the horror, the harsh and bleak existence of the warhammer 40k universe..." (Cue image of Wamudes joyfully giving Emps a sponge bath).

[@Dadecorban]

Also, we all know that the Star Child is Big E's humanity, and that he's currently stuck in Cormmorrah. ^.^ It's canon.

[@minnumseerrund]

It is known

[@TheJadeJester]

Which canon? The one that gets rewritten for the $?

[@ArconisDeusEX]

@@TheJadeJester Go watch TTS

[@TheJadeJester]

@@ArconisDeusEX TTS?

[@quanghuynguyen7957]

@@TheJadeJester if the emperor had a text to speech device. It's on KZbin

[@colin4685]

Vulkan needs to come back and build some more hammers

[@SH-qs7ee]

No need, what do you think hes spent the last 10,000 years doing; somewhere in the dark reaches of the galaxy there is an entire planet made of the hammers Vulkan has made.

[@jordanwhite9733]

@@SH-qs7ee Vulkan has been saving humanity is pockets of distress and smashing the foes of humanity abroad, he doesnt wanna be stuck down commanding, he wants to be saving humanity and smashing orks, he likes smashing orks. The bigger the better!

[@vulkanofnocturne]

Hammers! Hammers for everyone!

[@Lanadra]

Emps: Hold the line, the cavalry is on it's way.

[@otrain46]

There is no way the Emperor didn't have a plan b and c if somehow shit went wrong.

[@dalekcaan8495]

I think you mean 5d as the warp can be argued to be a 5th dimensional existence as time doesn't really hold any sway in it

[@MLaak86]

D and E just in case

[@Ork20111]

If your plan A is simple like: Lets go to disney world on the weekend, you have a plan B. If your plan A is letting humanity rule the entire galaxy and strife to never reached levels of technology and knowledge their is no plan B. You simply adapt plan A to the new circumstances.

[@fillburt2667]

@@Ork20111 A.1 A.2 A.3 Etc.

[@khayon9302]

Let's hope that Hell winter and the wolf king is coming for chaos and the Emperor's praetorian to makes a come back too

[@thephoenix8722]

FOR THE ALL FATHER!!

[@barlotardy]

I've been saying for years now that the last 10K+ years have been the Emperor's long game to achieve true godhood...

[@Ork20111]

Do you realize how costly this will be? What happend to the eldar and their empire when Slaanesh were born? But yes. I agree. It is the only way to defeat chaos. Only a god can slay gods.

[@suacemanaquiatan9380]

@@Ork20111 But what happens after? Because when Giants fight the ants feel it?

[@jacob414]

@@Ork20111 The Aeldari birthed a God of evil, a god of Chaos, the emperor is already here, and even then the emperor would be a god of good

[@Zanderguard]

If they bring back certain Primarchs (Dorn, Russ, Corvax) They can write some novels in deph about what they've been up to and release some new games or box sets with new minis for those campaigns. I'm a Blood Angel but i'd at least get the books and if any were awesome enough i'd consider a box set. GW have a great opportunity for new content here.

[@Luciusthestorms]

Well Corax is hunting Lorgar so I don't see him leaving the warp until he gets his brother.

[@Zanderguard]

@@Luciusthestorms Now imagine they wrote Corax' journey in depth and released a bunch of new minis to go with it.

[@Zanderguard]

Agreed, the 'nids are getting to the point they will wipe everyone out if some alliances (or at the very least, cease fires) aren't made. The only thing stopping the IOM getting wiped out is all of the fighting (and in fighting) between all the different factions. If 2 or 3 managed to Ally it'd be game over for the rest.

[@shadowshandbro]

I just want my primarch. I just want the Lion. I just want him to wake up from his long snooze... 😪

[@thecommentguy9380]

wake the fuck up lion... we got an eye of terror to burn

[@joperhop]

We have enough traitor primarchs right now, time for a loyal one, Vulkan, or Dorne next!

[@BBlueu2]

We need a new slave Primarch to return, so the ascended Primarchs can smack the weaklings down. It's so great to behold how powerful the Daemon Primarchs are by comparison now.

[@l.greenwood8096]

We just needed Guilleman not to have been a tool and to have let Cypher be presented to the Emperor as they had agreed to.

[@Moadar]

@@BBlueu2 If Angron is anything to go by then Daemon Primarchs should probably start repenting. His whole shtick is getting beat up.

[@blademaker9843]

As our Genefather has returned to build the foundation of the new imperium soon too shall our uncles return to the fold! Sons of Dorn, of Russ, of Corax and Vulkan rejoice! We shall be whole once more! -Strax Valare Chapter Master of the Cerulean Guards P.S: Have father update his codex already. We are far past the point where we can afford to fear legion building.

[@Stewiehleba]

"Spends every waking moment" does not work here, since the EMPRAH does not sleep, bless his soul.

[@ryansauchuk7290]

If he's awake that means that those moments are waking one's abd is therefore using all of them

[@sebastianrubio928]

It's funny how hyped 40k lore gets me. I'm the opposite of the marine fanboy (100% team pointy ears), the primarchs returning, that just gives me chill, man this video gave me chills thinking about all the implications. As an Eldar fanboy, the gathering storm though sad (Biel-tan), for me it was a total lore orgasm. It's hard to describe, but I think people get it, how much we love 40k lore. I've read the entire HH series, I'm up to date with the Siege of Terra, those 2 series brought feelings in me that only a few rare movies brought up, I can only imagine such series being made in live action, even in animation that would be good enough.

[@jamesminto3987]

In the book Lords of silence, mortarion foresaw the return of all the living loyal primarchs to the throne world a century before addadon kicked off the 13th crusade

[@HyperK7]

Addadon can’t do math lol

[@Spacefrisian]

Which of the 2 13nth Black Crusades? The original or the 2.0 version.

[@jamesminto3987]

2.0,. mortarion explains why he goes straight to ultramar to start his plague war instead of trying for terra, he already knew guilliman would return first a d it will be the result of the cadian gate breaking

[@Ork20111]

So did he mixed up the dates or is Abbadon before schedule?

[@jamesminto3987]

He had the vision a century odd before the black crusade begun, he simply seen the results of addadons decision to call the 13 crusade. The book explains it a lot better than I can lol

[@solortus]

Tzeentch rubbing his hands together: "hehe good one emps"

[@kucanusa3750]

Other gods: WTF! Tzeentch: This is beautiful Emps, so unpredictable

[@the_astrokhan]

In Valdor: Birth of the Imperium, there's a nice little clue to the way the mind of the emperor works and how he likes to disguise his plans. Amar Astarte incinerates the imperial dungeon and everyone thinks the Space Marines project is dead with that act. In reality, she was allowed to do so. Half the Gene-Seed is spirited away to safety on Luna and the Imperial dungeon is closed off because it's too dangerous to go in. In reality, the Emperor had need of the Dungeon not as a storage vault but a laboratory for something far, far greater - The webway project. The Emperor is content to let his subjects think he was given a grievous blow, to keep them in the dark to keep his enemies in the dark and to think that they're winning. He's also kind of Immortal so time isn't as big of a factor for him as it is to the others around him. I wouldn't be surprised if it was always his intention to ascend to God-hood and everything else was just diversions.

[@bw040690]

So may people say "kinda immortal". He was supposedly born 8,000 BC. He has been alive for damn near 50,000 years and he hasn't aged since his prime. How is that not the very definition of immortality? Is just because he could potentially be killed by force? But even that may not be so sincw whoreus did more than enough to kill him. So how is he not just immortal?

[@LysimedVenteel]

“Listen closely my children, for my life’s breath is all but spent. There shall come a time, far from now, when our chapter is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then, my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and I shall come no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the Final Battle. For the Wolftime.” - Leman Russ, shortly before leaving for the Eye of Terror

[@epaminon6196]

*God-Emperor of Mankind:* "Everything that has transpired has done so according to _my_ design." 😏 *Emperor Palpatine:* "Hey, that's _my_ line!" 🥺

[@kasrkin100]

You better deal the KK she are destroy SW universe

[@moriyokiri3229]

Do these comments have a point

[@epaminon6196]

@@moriyokiri3229 Yes.

[@bingchillingofficial3219]

What you gonna do about it palpatine

[@epaminon6196]

@@bingchillingofficial3219 *Palpetine:* _"I'll spend decades quietly scheming my way up the ranks of both the Imperium and the Chaos Forces until I arrive at the very top of both factions without anybody noticing. Then, I'll make a grab for unlimited power! It has worked before, so why shouldn't it again? It is inevitable. It is my... destiny."_

[@tediousgeorge7159]

The Lion returns, establishes imperium secundus and, with Cawls help, develops secundus marines just to spite Girlyman.

[@chrisbennett6236]

This makes me wonder if the Emperor let Mortarian live because he knows all his sons will be back. That would be bad ass if the Emperor found a way to get all the Primarchs back. As for loyalist, Johnson, Jaghatai and Corax of course. These three will certainly help Guilliman turn the tide against many enemies of Man.

[@sonnumber8733]

The galaxy is literally on fire with millions dying every day and the Emperor is just casually sitting on his chair like: Mmm...yes very good.

[@moriyokiri3229]

How dare you question the wisdom of the Emperor’s plan???

[@codename1176]

The result might be a galaxy strong enough to repel the tyranids.

[@SH-qs7ee]

@@codename1176 Or a galaxy empty enough to starve them

[@jeffthemercenary]

Just like i planned -E

[@sonnumber8733]

@@moriyokiri3229 YOU DARE ACCUSE ME OF HERESY?

[@SquatterLoki]

During the Horus Heresy Emperor: *Stuck on the Golden Throne* Chaos Gods: Yey! We win! 10K years later. Chaos Gods: *Why do we hear boss music?*

[@clemo85]

Ever get the feeling Khan isnt lost in the web way, but battling at the warp tear within it

[@underscore00]

I think hes squarely in the webway. My theory is that he'll show up unexpectedly somewhere near Terra with a fully comprehensive and detailed map of the webway and the skills to navigate it safely and super-fast. A huge asset for the imperium in a time where warp travel is more dangerous than ever, plus it might take enough of the edge off the golden throne that Big E might be able to rise up and regenerate.

[@grangoyikes.809]

Plot twist. Big E was just vibing in his throne. He just wanted to show the Imperium his gaming chair.

[@xSKuLLJeSTeRx]

Hey @Wolf Lord Rho youtube keeps taggings your videos as World of Warcraft related. In case you didn't see that. Also, I completely agree, especially with the upcoming rewrites. I feel like the Indomatus crusade is just the Great Crusade: Search for the Primarchs part 2.

[@godmode9913]

I think we are heading for some sort of Horus heresy part 2 .

[@gavinr4214]

Great idea but they'd need a traitor like Horus for that maybe a returned Johnson but corrupted... Unfortunately GW have just been playing it very safe recently the simple good guys vs bad story. A new heresy is too gray for them I think.

[@snewsom2997]

but who is the heretic, Gulliman or the Ecclessiarchy?

[@changer_of_ways_999]

I could see a splintering of multiple factions. The uncomfortable secrets of the Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Space Wolves are revealed and the Inquisition orders the destruction of three loyalist legions. Gulliman, however, tries to bring back the Imperial truth and challenges the Cult. Suddenly the creator of the Codex is challenging the divinity of the God Emperor. Do they side with the Inquisition or the Legions? Is the codex worth following or not?

[@dalaminaubis7822]

The Emperor's humanity is still in there, and the key to it lies within his sons. He's simply just spread too thin, his consciousness split between a thousand different battlefields, within and without the warp. Bobby G just had high hopes as everythimg else he remembers is gone or so different that it's nigh unrecognizable, and then his last hope for something familiar, his father, was even more alien and grotesque than he could imagine.

[@niconighteye]

About the Emperor lack of human emotions when Guilliman met him in the Throne room, there is a HUGELY important line towards the end of the novel "Valdor - Birth of the Imperium" that I rarely see mentionned (SPOILERS ahead) : Malcador to Valdor, talking about the Primarchs (p. 150) : "You shall speak of this with Him too, when He returns. Hone your arguments - I judge that He is determined to hunt for them. He has taken to referring to them as His “sons”. Can you imagine that? Neither could I, until I heard it from His own lips. There might even be some lingering attachment, there, though how long it will last I cannot say.’ Valdor hesitated. ‘Then His human sentiments - they are still ebbing.’ ‘As He predicted. All things have their price.’" There it is : the Emperor was starting to lose his capacity for human emotions before he was interred on the Golden throne, in fact, before the Heresy and even before the Great Crusade ! I feel this is GW attempt to bridge the decades old inconsistency between the "two" emperors : the one who is considerate and kind and the one who is without human emotion to the point of making stupid mistakes in dealing with his sons. What do you think ?

[@HuntersOfTheNorth1]

I mean....he is the creation of a mesh of thousands of shamans forming one big soul right? What if there isn't unity in those miniature souls? Or perhaps that effect wasn't meant to be a permanent fix to those problems

[@gavinr4214]

I like this theory last thing I'd like to see is the Emperor to be perfect like a Primaris. If he returns, him being devoid of humanity would make for interesting stories and lore.

[@Anlushac11]

I heard a idea that I liked. The Emperor was supposed to die and be reincarnated after the Horus Heresey, but he was kept imprisoned in his broken failing body for 10,000 years unable to reincarnate. The idea was the machine fails and the Emperor dies or the machine is unplugged and the Emperor dies. He then reincarnates as a even more powerful godlike being.

[@tigeriussvarne177]

Ave Imperator, gloria in excelsis Terra.

[@MrDarthtelos]

Ave Imperator!

[@TheImmoth]

Ave Imperator.

[@PELLIOTIS]

I would like Dorn to return..... But I have a suspicion a fun appearance would be the Han..... Imagine "Dad, it is time...... For a speed race! " And then roams with ultra rapid speed to the universe to help salamanders to find the items to summon Vulkan..... And then go together sharing the love of speed and friendship to the universe while our daddy Guilliman finally sits to do his administrative job as intented......... Just magnificent

[@bubger]

Did you read the recent Alpharius book? I'd love to have a video on your thoughts on it.

[@Fenixx117]

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"

[@tra779]

I think we will get a couple more daemon primarchs Fulgrim and Angron and just as its looking as bleak as possible we will get a loyalist or two. I'm kinda hoping it's Russ and the Khan or Lion just to read the reaction of Robute and the bickering between them

[@The-Real-JD]

Imagine Russ coming back and sparks a little civil war between them

[@tra779]

@@The-Real-JD I can't see Russ being happy about the state of the Imperium!

[@tra779]

@Richie Dontrelle yeah the Lion would definitely be easier for Robute to deal with too I just think the personality clash between Russ and Robute would be interesting

[@The-Real-JD]

@@tra779 That's why it would be really interesting if he came back and have a Mini civil war going on or idk

[@scottdodge6979]

@@The-Real-JD I really doubt we will see a mini civil war regardless of who returns. Any primach would be well aware that the victor would not survive much longer in the galaxy. That and G man already has shown that he's willing to bend the codex so it's quite possible he and Russ get over their differences. The lion is more vanilla but it makes more sense, especially given him and Gullimans banter on Calth. The Lion and G man are the best case scenario for the Imperium.

[@andrewchessher4362]

Does anyone ever talk about belasarius cawl talking to the Emperor. I loved that the Emperor told him: you will betray me and you will be right to do so. Spoiler: just before releasing a shard of a C'tan.

[@virgilromero3252]

Once Vulkan He’Stan finds the relics I hope Vulkan stops playing hide and seek

[@Horus_the_Lupercal]

Have you tried looking at Wafflehouse?

[@scorchprimethewalkingwarcrime]

@@Horus_the_Lupercal why did I find that funny?

[@filwilliamson9149]

@@scorchprimethewalkingwarcrime Because you read it in TTS Dorn's voice.

[@scorchprimethewalkingwarcrime]

@@filwilliamson9149 ya that explains it, and it oddly makes sense Vulkan would go to Waffle House

[@moostangman]

I feel he's more of a huddle house kinda guy, russ on the other hand most definitely would roll up to a wafflehouse at 3am half smashed looking for some breakfast.

[@randomname8299]

Man i love Gig E and the Primarchs. Can't wait to see who is the next one to return.

[@harutotokishima9984]

What I really hope for would be that it's not just the Lion coming back soon, but also the loyalist clone of Fulgrim

[@randombencounter263]

if the state of humanity and the universe in 40k was the Emperor's plan all along, then Horus did nothing wrong.

[@codename1176]

Or maybe this is plan B

[@jacobfreeman5444]

I would say Big E knew something like the Heresy would happen. He just didn't know which one of his sons would end up doing the deed. It was a framework he percieved but the details were obscured. So he planned around that framework. Making it so that his plans would advance when someone capable of handling the job at the appropriate time and place showed up. Thus any of his sons could betray him and any stay loyal. Any could be lost and any could begin the return. It was a plan that would take millenia because it was, by necessity, subject to self revision. And his part in it was to keep that plan in place so all the pieces could be assembled in whatever order was necessary. I think the big E will eventually leave his throne. But not before he has secured his masterstroke against his enemies. Because the moment he raises from his seat is the moment the final battle begins.

[@randombencounter263]

@@jacobfreeman5444 You missed my point completely. I'm not saying that Horus did the right thing because he was acting as the Emperor planned, I'm saying that if the Emperor actually planned for the galaxy to turn out the way it did then Horus was right to fight him.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

@@randombencounter263 It was definitely the Chaos gods' plan for it to turn out this way, yet Horus sided with them. As for Big E...I just think he knew it was something he couldn't stop so incorporated it into his own design. I suspect Big E isn't the altruist he is painted as being but it doesn't benefit him to make a galaxy of pure murder. In some ways Big E seems oddly dispassionate and seems to seek to expand that condition to all of humanity.

[@EveRecruiter]

We all know that the Emperor is still alive because of the Orks belief that he's immortal. So it is...

[@garra1766]

I also pick up on that "heros long lost return" part. If that does not refer to loyal primarchs returning then i dont know what it would refer to. Maybe Malcador the Hero?

[@Dreadbringer]

Malcador returning would be awesome for the imperium, him leading the Astra militarum AND the sisters of battle as a primarch level character.

[@troyluv33]

There was a short story you covered before when Morty said he had a vision of someone like 1 or more of his brothers coming. I really hope that we get another loyal primarch before 9th is over but if a loyalist return why not bring another traitor primarch too.

[@filwilliamson9149]

Well it's been confirmed that the Fallen Angels are getting rules in the next White Dwarf, which could mean that their lore will advance, and if the lore of the Fallen is advancing, then so is the lore of the Dark Angels. I wouldn't be surprised if this eventually leads to the Lion reawakening to fight Luther and the Fallen.

[@booradley6832]

It makes sense then why the emperor acted like "a prisoner being passed a rasp" and not like getting his son back. He has been waiting in his prison for that rasp that he knew would come. The emotional impact of it has long since dulled on him in 10,000 years of waiting for it in pain. Actually sort of humanizing for his de-humanizing reaction.

[@Evil0tto]

Everything is possible with the power of retconning!

[@onlinechaosgremlin]

It would be interesting given the seeming lack of humanity to see the emperor beat chaos, only to become the big bad for humanity himself.

[@coolnamebro7363]

The emperor looking into the warp right at Tzeentch: JUST. AS. PLANNED.

[@iamcaesar6741]

If the Emperor has become a God then Logar’s prophesy or announcement that the Emperor is a God is correct. Alpharius returns with 10,000 years of secretly making Alpha Legion Space Marines and Imperial Guard Armies from thousands of Worlds, I mean Alpharius has a Legion or 3 that is not conforming to the Codex. Informs Guilliman that the Emperor has communicated to him to finally reveal himself in the Imperium’s darkest hour and to assist Guilliman. Alpharius then says a secret phrase and the Custodian Guard accompanying Guilliman says, “authentication confirmed Alpharius is Loyal to the Emperor”

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

I think the chaos God's knew it was a possible future of the Emperor an they misunderstood why he was seeking godhood. Ironically their actions forcing him to seek godhood worship from his people to give him more power in the warp to stay and eventually defeat chaos.

[@danielstephenaguilos9346]

That is some Secret Service shit, goddamn.

[@iamcaesar6741]

@@danielstephenaguilos9346 grim darkness twist... it will suck for the Xenos races too...lol and I play Eldar since Rouge Trader in 1980s😂