"Woman King" is Glorifying Sl@ve Trade? or Is It Misogynoir?

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[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

This movie started a conversation about a tribe most people didn't know. If you look for history lessons from Hollywood then you are in trouble

[@nsoromma9505]

So I take you you haven’t read “Baracoon”

[@jeffk464]

You know whats really messed up, the movie the Ghost and the Darkness which was based on a true story. The lions in the story had developed a thirst for human blood because Arab slavers had been feeding week/sickly potential slaves to these lions. Unlike the Woman King though, the Ghost and the Darkness was a great movie.

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

@@jeffk464 it was even different lions from the movie, i forgot the scientific name for those type of lions but they don't have manes, there are actual photos of those lions they were not those large loins with manes. There is this guy who explained the difference between "based on a true story " and "inspired by real events" I think woman king is inspired by real events. Nobody is even questioning the possibility of stepping on those torns and still be able to walk. My friend i once stepped on a nail and i couldn't walk with my leg or step with it for a month. Nobody is making noise about stepping on those torns as bull kak they all run to the race card and making noise about the accuracy of the story forgetting that stories told to entertain is not always accurate as you have explained about men eating lions created part was left out of the story

[@nsoromma9505]

@@jeffk464 but you know what’s really fucked up?

[@jofujino]

Yes, but the conversation is happening because they are getting the facts so twisted and backwards that people feel the need to stand up and correct them. Is that something we want to reward monetarily and encourage more of? Why can't we have more movies that don't make heroes of not just slave traders, but slave traders, who practiced human sacrifice annually, who went to war and enslaved their neighbors who rejected slavery to crush their palm oil competitors, who defied the British who had banned slaves and even embargoed them to try to stop the slave trade (the movie despite being set in the time of King Gezo decides to portray Europeans as encouraging the slave trade and Gezo as reluctantly going along). We can have standards without having fewer Black movies showing their culture. These people were the literal definition of evil and yet they want to say white is black and black is white and I think this just hurts the cause as conservatives trying to "cleanse schools of critical race theory" point to this and say this is what the left wants to turn your history classes into. The worst part is if you wanted to tell the story of the Dahomey there was a way better way to do it. Just make it about Adbaraya Toya, a woman warrior turned slave, turned mentor and comrade in arms of the leader of the Haitian slave revolt/revolution. You can have good conversations that are based in truth. You just need standards and Hollywood only listens to money.

[@sandraauche]

I wish people will understand that no matter how uncomfortable a story is, it still needs to be told

[@Xara_K1]

I think the African diaspora has a tendency to only like other Africans if theyre perfect. They're more willing to forgive the aggressors and will never forgive the fellow victims for not being perfect victims. Lots of AAs dont wanna have the discussion of how most sl@ve catchers on the continent became captured and enslaved as well. And im not saying it to say AAs must h8 their own. I'm adding it as proof that our history collectively isn't cut and dry and is very complex and has very grey areas and characters.

[@candygirl20048]

Agreed

[@alldn666]

But this is not the same, just imagine the KKK being made superheroes

[@Xara_K1]

@@alldn666 False equivalence. That's nowhere near being an accurate correlation because ur basically saying the kkk were also victims of wyt hegemony

[@Bruhman1992]

Story needs to be told if its true and not lies and half truths like this movie.

[@user-wl1uz5sb9f]

2:51 The Dahomey were not colonized. They were not under European rule until it became a French Protectorate in 1894 (although you could say that the colonization effort started in 1872), anyway a time when all Europeans had not only abandoned all the slave trade, but they were enforcing its ban worldwide, in places like precisely the Dahomey, who wished to continue it.

[@abioni6092]

I was looking for this comment. Slavery was not an outcome of colonisation. Slavery had been going on centuries before.

[@gatestimonymiracle1302]

Thank you I am ewe we are from Dahomey

[@user-wl1uz5sb9f]

@@abioni6092 yeah, and I must add that Dahomey's slave trade was ended with a naval blockade in 1852

[@sebastianb.2921]

@@user-wl1uz5sb9f This woman saying she "just doesn't believe it" when it comes to the British forcing them to STOP their slave trading is just sad. It is just a fact, even though it doesn't much up with this idea that white people (and the West) are the root of the world's problems.

[@naeishareasor4284]

Stop trying to paint the British as heroes. They were the ones purchasing the slaves and shipping them to foreign lands to be beat, raped, and robbed of their culture. That's if the slaves didn't die from the terrible conditions on the boats or committed suicide before they arrived. It's only fair they try to stop a system they perpetuated.

[@angel-ke9vs]

Listen I am an African living in Africa and this is all new to me. We were never taught about ourselves only Europeans. As an adult I try to fix that but it's hard. At least we can start having these conversations so I am happy the movie was made.

[@mayowasworld]

yeah its true. I think its intentional to have black people not know our history.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

I'm not supporting this movie. The Dahomey were the MOST savage slave traders. They did *mass slaughtering rituals* of the slaves they caught. They are the worst that African nations had to offer. The reason why MANY of us Black people are here in the Americas, Europe and the Caribbean is because of the Dahomey. When Britain wanted to stop the slave trade the Dahomey said no we will not stop SMH. This is the movie Hollyweird wants us as Black people to be proud of SMH. Notice Hollyweird did not give us a movie about how the West African Moors conquered Spain and ruled it and southern Europe for over 700 years and how those Moors taught whites civilization... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about the Nubian Kush Queen that made Caesar stand down... Notice that Hollyweird did not give us a movie about the black nations that actually fought against the European slave trade... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about Black Egypt. Nope, those white producers gave you a movie about Africans killing and enslaving other Africans... We all know who runs Hollyweird. Imagine European Jews giving you a movie where they want you to be proud about a clan of European Jews catching and selling themselves into Nazi camps.. You'll NEVER see that movie and we all know why. Let's not even talk about the level of misandry against Black men in this movie SMH. Check this great breakdown of the movie... kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPHomx4qJygn7M

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

@Asmr So Here is Professor Ivan Van Sertima teaching on the Moors... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaTYlKigg5WBedU

[@soriba391]

A lot of Nigerian people know the true story of the Dahomey and are pissed that Hollywood is whatever-washing it

[@evano5635]

We have made our slave ports monuments. The history of our role in the slave trade was never suppressed. We don’t talk about it because slavery barely affected us.

[@ladybluelotus]

Honestly, people just need to read more. Most of these misunderstandings come from people whom bragged about hating history class in high school. Not everyone knows what they're talking about. Reading about various aspects of history helps us develop greater empathy and nuance.

[@MrZlathan3]

Thank you and glad that Mayowa is bringing some balance and perspective to this issue. In general there's a right wing agenda to transfer blame to Africans as if Africans created and financed the trans-Atlantic shipping companies, the plantation system and the cultural and religious theology of white supremacy. In the big scheme of things the biggest enslavers of whites thruout history were other whites. Greek city states enslaved each other. There were periods in history where over half the populations of these city-states were slaves. The Roman empire conquered and enslaved Western Europe. Yet whites glorify these empires. Native Americans enslaved and sold their captives to Europeans. That angle isn't being played up and used as an excuse for the genocide of Native Americans. Then too we have to understand the corruption and racialization of Western chattel slavery that evolved into dehumanizing the black race. Before the trans-Atlantic slave trade slaves in Africa were absorbed into the greater society and could rise to become leaders while here in America we were legally reduced to being less than human.

[@craigstobbs9215]

@@MrZlathan3 as someone who os very passionate about history i wouldnt glorify the roman empire. I can admire its technological and.cultural advances i would glorify it though

[@warrenthompson7803]

Well if your gonna talk about black history they should get history correct . Colonization wasn't the reason by the way for slavery existing there . African had slaves even way before Christians and Europeans stepped foot in the land dating back to Genghis Khan , where they had African slaves who roamed the palaces over there. Another people also don't know that the first state recognized slave owners ...here in the U.S.A was a black man named Anthony Johnson , who owned one or two other fellow Africans as slaves . About one third of free blacks living in the U.S during the slave trade owned slaves themselves . One of the wealthiest slave owners The Ellis family , we're black slave owners who owned a sugar plantation . And there plantation and property , it is said had 3 times the value and worth then most of the white slave owners. I encourage anyone to read the book Black masters , where I black Harvard university professor delves deep into black history , and slavery here in the U.S.

[@MrZlathan3]

@@craigstobbs9215 ...Okay but Western society glorifies ancient Rome and ancient Greece. Both had huge populations of slaves.

[@MrZlathan3]

@@warrenthompson7803 ...For most of history, slavery was a default practice of most nations dealing with war captives. Slavery became racialized by Caucasian Arabs and later Europeans who demonized and dehumanized the black race. Anthony Johnson didn't create that system. He didn't alter the Bible to make blacks the cursed children of Ham who could only aspire to being good slaves and have their souls washed white as snow to enter heaven. The stat that 1/3 of freed blacks owned slaves is totally bogus and part of traditional critical white race theory designed to whitewash the institution. The vast majority were people buying their loved ones out of bondage. The census then declared these people 'slave owners.' The right uses these totally misleading stats to obscure and mislead.

[@mameece8878]

dang ppl are so uneducated, thats so frustrating. Thank you for this!

[@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068]

At this point, black women in current movies, you'll get attacked for anything 🙄🙄it's MISOGYNOIR

[@racescott6636]

Yes it is come on it's called The woman king

[@ladysnowblood9320]

Stop… It’s much more than Misogynoir and you know this. Please do your research the mind is a narrow hallway

[@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068]

@@ladysnowblood9320 I was answering the question of the video.....

[@RebelWithoutABoss]

So if it were set in the 1800s US and had the Confederates decide slavery is wrong and go on a crusade to end slavery is the western hemisphere would you be making excuses for it then? Or a story where the KKK (because unlike the lie the person who made this video told, the Dahomey were not fighting colonization during their involvement in the slave trade) were saviors of black people be acceptable now? Or a movie where Napoleon's war was actually fought to end the slave trade, would you make excuses for that? The Woman King is no different.

[@KingAries85]

Or the fact they rewrote history and made the bad guys the good guys .. that’s like making a movie where hitler saves the Jews and then tells the Jews they are racist if they don’t like this history and since they are white they get attacked for everything😂

[@Listening_2_Still_Small_Voice]

I want a movie about the Dogon of Mali who mapped the stars with Advanced mathematics and knew about the star Sirius centuries before European scientists.

[@amenajackson8133]

Make it .

[@nsoromma9505]

They’re not going to make that 😊 but “The Science of the Dogon” is a good read

[@geminate3997]

People are not saying that they do not want to know about the Dahomey Empire. People are saying they want the story to be more robust to provide a more complete understanding of the history and this is not the same as boycotting just to stay ignorant.

[@aikikaname6508]

@@KDH-oc4tx Well, we’ve had a billion movies glorifying pirates in spite of the atrocities committed in the Caribbean, Spartans were portrayed as defenders of democracy when theirs was a city state that depended on slave labour, we see films romanticising the South, Westerns ignoring the genocide of Native Americans… Alexander the Great, Christopher Columbus who’s much closer to the Nazis than what basically amounts to the palace guard with little political power . so yeah we’ve seen the equivalent glossing over the ugly parts of history starring white male (and female) protagonists who practiced terrible things and were extremely morally compromised. If we can sanitise Pirates of the Caribbean and turn it into a fantasy kids ride, why are the Dahomeans being held to a higher standard

[@Thespokenone]

@@aikikaname6508 so because others have misappropriated history and they've sanitised the truth from it, we should do the same?

[@nox6687]

@@aikikaname6508 This is like the definition of whataboutism, just because others f'ed up history doesn't mean people shouldn't push for better, both with this movie and with those.

[@jasminespencer2872]

@@aikikaname6508 I agree with you, to me there is a lot of hypocrisy. As a person of Caribbean decent, I recall seeing a Just Dance video for a Caribbean song that was pirate themed, to me it was disrespectful given the history and how it crossed over fantasy into reality and true Caribbean culture. I think it is okay for anything artistic, cinematic, theatrical, film related to move away as far as possible from reality as long as what is true is not tainted. So to me as long as people are able to distinguish between fantasy and reality and know about the history of Dahomey, not just slavery-related (since the tribe is more than that), I have no issue. Instead I will focus and enjoy these films for what they are meant to be, I still enjoy Pirates of The Caribbean and if I get the chance, I will do the same with Woman King. I do understand the stance of feeling it is inappropriate. There are people who do not watch movies like these because of the truth and that's alright. However I believe, if you are now beginning to have an issue with such movies even after knowing the history for others, I would advise to reflect on if that is truly the issue you are having.

[@BobyJooba]

@@nox6687 You guys are as bad as woke people. So basically for you films like Braveheart should'nt exist, by your own standards ?

[@nanaabenadarkowaah1800]

I moved to Africa. Have been living here for 15 years. Yes, we helped them in selling slaves. Yes we are puppets. Yes you are right, we have to be consistent. I like the way you present your facts. ❤️

[@allbutperfect]

Not all of Africa, Central and West Africa. Never Southern Africa.

[@user-ik5vr4zo5t]

I love how you say I love your facts what are facts about white people coming and just stealing Africans off the continent know Africans were bought from other and the Arab slave trade was far more numerous and horrific

[@401Orishas]

There's no.such thing as "we" knowing that majority of those who participated in catching and enslaving were Mullatos or Arabs who were either Christianized or Islamized. Religion was very critical in brainwashing of our people. Majority of those "slaves" were systematically converted into Christianity thus believing that being subservient to the white men was the "norm" aka white Jesus. Look at the amount of Blacks who still practise Christianity today, isn't that an indication to you?

[@destinylove1673]

I’ve watched it twice already and going back on Tuesday to watch again. Idc if anyone has anything negative to say about the film bc to me it was the best movie experience ever. I loved the cinematography and the beautiful dark skin women led cast. Viola Davis did what needed to be done.

[@daftwod]

Why not just stay home and look in the mirror for free? Yay it's some black skin.

[@angiejordan6454]

👏🏽

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

Yes! me as well. I’m giving it the same energy I gave Back Panther: watched it 4 times in theaters and purchased 2 movies. Cant do less for viola than I did for Chadwick c/o Marvel.

[@daftwod]

@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 Wow. They own you. Same people who owned your ancestors and they still know how you work.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

@@daftwod… sounds just like something someone privileged would say. Imma accept your YT handle to be accurate.

[@jamiejay8157]

I'm from Ghana and I don't quite agree with what you've said. Seriously stop defending the movie. I don't know how the story is told abroad but its not black people good and white people bad. The lines were extremely gray. We as black people caused a lot of our suffering. And profited from it too. As did the white colonial masters. The thing is slavery wasn't new to Africans then. We were already practising it among ourselves and with the Arabs. So people didn't really think too much about selling humans to the whites in exchange for stuff. And also the Dahomey weren't some innocent helpless group of people who were forced to fight for their existence. Even before the arrival of the whites they were feared. And rightly so. They raided and conquered wherever they could and that only got worse with the arrival of the slave trade. A lot of people who trace their ancestry to Dahomey may not even be Dahomenians. Loads of people who were sold from the ports in Dahomey were captured from other places. I think the West should leave Africa out of its propaganda. This movie could have been a great insight into our history but instead we got some woke inspired feminist pandering nonsense that had nothing to do with the history behind it. It's annoying at the very least.

[@margaretchandia9452]

Great video, excellent discussion. The Transatlantic Slave Trade is one part of the story of this Empire's story, telling it does not minimize the losses and carnage of the slave trade. Sometimes I think we are so traumatized as Africans and people of African descent by what we think is our history that we fail to see the humanity and truth in each other's experiences. We will only see and empathise with another person's experience when we humanize our own experiences pretty and ugly and all of the stuff inbetween. The families who lost brothers, sisters, parents and grandparents, to slavery and those who refused to willingly give them up also have a story to tell. We fail to see the losses were on both sides. Few gained for the suffering of many on both sides of the Atlantic. Walter Rodney explains some of these loses very well.

[@itnotmeitu3896]

They quite literally are responsible for over 25% of ALL slaves sent to the Americas. It was how they made their money and became so powerful. It is, literally the basis of their entire empire.

[@ngoddess9684]

Every race has been a s1ave. We all suffer trauma. That is no excuse to deceive others with historical inaccuracies.

[@foyeke]

I don’t get why people keep saying they are pushing a “beta male agenda,” when this story is about people and events that actually happened?!

[@GraceD127]

There is no "beta male" agenda in this movie. All the men in the film are powerful, whether good or evil. Their misogynoir is showing.

[@mewmew6158]

@@GraceD127 Exactly, men are still predominantly in control.

[@j.samuel9646]

This movie is full of lies. I was going to watch it but. I’m assuming that they hide a lot of facts

[@user-wl1uz5sb9f]

The Agojie (Dahmoey amazons) were crushed by the french in the two wars they had at a death rate closer 100/1-500/1. Not saying that they were not good warriors, but clearly not the strongest of the time. They, by the way, did not use any of the weapons depicted in the film. They used guns like anyone with a brain in the 19th century. Actually, by exaggerating a romanticising how they were, it diminishes them, because finding the truth is 2 google searches away, and once you know, it makes the entire movie look completely fake. It could have been a conflicting but interesting tale of this unique woman batallion, instead we have got a propaganda piece, and it shows.

[@Jamyes9909]

It's NOT about people and events that actually happened.

[@sharonluquis5823]

History uplifts…History hurts…History needs to be told…Betrayal is painful and real…We are not the only people with a monopoly on betrayal…Jews led fellow Jews into the showers at the death camps…Native American scouts led union soldiers to villages killing women and children…My thinking is that our ancestors did not know the depths of brutality with regards to the Atlantic slave trade…There is a difference between being treated as a “servant” and treated as less than human, said treatment lasting for 400 years as sung by reggae legend Peter Tosh…Segregation to follow, strange fruit hanging from southern trees…I want my black history…All of it…Denied of it for far too long…History hurts but it can set you free…Our story is powerful…The ultimate survival story in spite of everything against us…

[@Joyinthemorn]

Best comment 😊

[@empresslonnie1love391]

Chile boycott 4 what 😩😩😩 people get on my nerves

[@madamjynx6616]

I was EXCITED about Woman King. First, Viola Davis brought the energy in the trailer that even if it was “a portrayal” she knew what this would mean to the culture. The movie was great, though they gave her that whack experience in her past and I was disappointed by that but…as you said…not written by us, for what it was it was a good blend. And, in my opinion, the first of its kind. The first that I hope of many. We as black people are so starved for US to be heard that I am happy we got this.

[@hugsandfries7252]

The point you made about the imbalance of power and the effect on us makes SO much sense. The smartest KZbinr when it comes to these topics. Another great video ❤

[@mayowasworld]

thank u booo!

[@primedawg666]

Sounds o me that a lot of people calling for the boycott didn’t even watch the movie.

[@shamoo260]

If you want to hide something from black folks put it in a movie , not in any nonfiction books.

[@WinxMagicalHero]

And most are white

[@soriba391]

The thirst for black representation so strong that it even re-writes actual history is just fucking embarassing. But yeah, please allow yourself to get false history shoved down your throat by Hollywood. There is a reason why Lupita Nyong'o dropped out of the movie when she learned about the actual historical facts

[@mizanna622]

All of Hollywood is a lie, but this is where you draw the line? Seriously! It was not a documentary. Braveheart was based on a real person and no matter how exaggerated. It was a good movie! Similarly, The Woman King is loosely based on actual events. They never denied the participation of the Dahomey in the slave trade and it never glorified women as wanting to be men. The whole movie is about the sisterhood and triumph of African women to the EXCLUSION OF BM and in a minor capacity, non-BM, which is why most ppl appear to be upset.

[@soriba391]

​@@mizanna622 Cool story bro, still wasn't my point. And mentioning Breaveheart, the core of the story was still on point at the end of that movie...unlike in The Woman King. So I don't know if u lacking reading comprehension or if u try to misrepresent what I wrote on purpose? Not mentioning totally leaving out what I wrote about Miss Nyong'o...

[@Icedsobaka]

@@mizanna622 There is a BIG difference between, Making a fictional movie that is mostly based on true events like Braveheart And making a movie about a kingdom that relayed itself economically on SLAVERY and try to paint them as good and morally conscious people, Stop being delusional

[@HtineTEE]

@@Icedsobaka Oh please!! Y’all are so woke you need to go back to sleep. Its a movie! Movies seek to entertain, not educate on truth. That’s what books are for. Ppl are having the conversation and learning history BECAUSE this movie exists. There are veeerrrryyyy few movies that are historically accurate. True history won’t put butts in the seats. It’s a business of fiction.

[@BeadedSeedbyRonea]

I appreciate your read on this issue. I look forward to seeing the movie soon. 🙌🏿

[@Tessitura9]

People complaining about it never saw it. They address their role in slavery in the movie, it's kind of a major part of the plot. And what's ironic about this "boycott" is that these are the same people who will turn around and watch a European antiquity film, despite their obvious roles in the slave trade. Make it make sense.

[@amberw6025]

No one want to support black on black slave traders you have to understand the frustration. The only way I can agree if they didn’t support slavery but they did. If this was about holocaust this movie would have never been made you do know that right

[@sm_sf]

@@amberw6025 check out boy in the stripped pajamas, it's a holocaust film

[@evano5635]

@@amberw6025 u black Americans glorify gang culture go and rest ! Stop tarnishing African history because you want to be woke. Y’all hate Africans so bad but love the white man

[@ot7012]

@@sm_sf i don't think any of the nazis were portrayed as the hero in that story tho. there was no 'hero/champion' at all, instead it's a story about the consequences of their terrible deeds. is it the same in the woman king?

[@acealpine6806]

@@ot7012 You know some of them don't care. right? All they want is more sistas in movies. To hell with morals !!

[@lookatmarat]

My concern is that none of us know who is on the other side of any of these comments. For all we know there are people who want to create division between black people to make us weaker. I haven’t seen the movie, but I have to side eye where this kind of backlash comes from and what purpose it serves.

[@ladysnowblood9320]

What?? Where is it coming from?? Do your research and you will see where it’s coming from. Lawd.. 🤦🏽‍♀️.

[@MissFiyah1]

@@ladysnowblood9320 Exactly!

[@ceciliai.ogwude2845]

The question to ask yourself is why nobody screamed this much when 300 or brave heart came out. There was "some" backlash but no calls to boycott. Why not??? Why did they start to scream BEFORE knowing the true plot of this movie? Read the comments and you'll see the real reason behind the criticism

[@joyhappy3461]

Notice how none of them show their faces. They are all hiding behind avatars.

[@ixal9089]

@@ceciliai.ogwude2845 There were a lot of complains and calls for boycoting 300. It was regularily called a facist fantasy.

[@gwendolynestrada3017]

Without giving away other aspects of the morning movie, it was hard watching black on black violence, but I had to remember that l African tribal wars existed and still does.

[@indiald3373]

Respeto

[@jermarwilliamson1552]

you must understand black is a made up term that places all those tribes into one category, even DNA shows that their all not the same or all came from different lands, just because they all lived in the same lands during that time didn't make them the same type of people. That's like saying a Japanese person is the same as a Chinese person but they can see the difference, we just can't see or tell the difference, back then they wasn't calling each other black or African, they called each other based on the tribes they came from. Just because someone looks very similar doesn't make them the same as in culture and with culture comes a separate spirit that's different, they didn't all think the same or act the same, placing them in the same category is like saying that a ittalian is the same as a english person from England but if they where to mix they would say mix race couple or if they have children they would say mix race children, if Chinese with Korean or Japanese too mix race children. Black Americans are the only racial group of people who think that all so called Africans are the same but thats not true, not even West Africans living in places like Nigeria today see themselves as being the same, they could tell the difference, some can grow full beards and afros and some can't even grow them at all, some are tall and skinny, some are fat and short so they aren't all the same just like not every person in the u s are the same but here we see race for them they see differences in groups and they all carry different DNA types. Not every one in TOGO or Nigeria has the same DNA type which means that their different types of people but living in the same land. so when you say black on black crime your referring to the u s . to them they don't say black because that's a made up term , they themselves call out racism..... in nigeria they call different tribes racist if they do something wrong to another tribe, I know because i've been to many parts of West Africa.

[@mayowasworld]

yeah I feel you lol I also had a knee jerk reaction but I think im generally sensitive with graphic imagery in general.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

I'm not supporting this movie. The Dahomey were the MOST savage slave traders. They did *mass slaughtering rituals* of the slaves they caught. They are the worst that African nations had to offer. The reason why MANY of us Black people are here in the Americas, Europe and the Caribbean is because of the Dahomey. When Britain wanted to stop the slave trade the Dahomey said no we will not stop SMH. This is the movie Hollyweird wants us as Black people to be proud of SMH. Notice Hollyweird did not give us a movie about how the West African Moors conquered Spain and ruled it and southern Europe for over 700 years and how those Moors taught whites civilization... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about the Nubian Kush Queen that made Caesar stand down... Notice that Hollyweird did not give us a movie about the black nations that actually fought against the European slave trade... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about Black Egypt. Nope, those white producers gave you a movie about Africans killing and enslaving other Africans... We all know who runs Hollyweird. Imagine European Jews giving you a movie where they want you to be proud about a clan of European Jews catching and selling themselves into Nazi camps.. You'll NEVER see that movie and we all know why. Let's not even talk about the level of misandry against Black men in this movie SMH. Check this great breakdown of the movie... kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPHomx4qJygn7M

[@babygirla5717]

@@jermarwilliamson1552 All that you said still doesn’t change the fact that they enslaved each other and fought each other for no good reason. Black is black doesn’t matter where it comes from same as white same as Asian just different cultures and language and practices.

[@Xara_K1]

People will say Africans sold them and fight to unify with the people who were buying them and financially and economically benefitted off their oppression. And as John Hendrik Clarke said... 'What did we do with the money?' Coz we know what the buyers did with THEIR money.

[@dlc2479]

Yep, I'm caribbean and it's difficult to accept but both European and African slavers were ultimately motivated by money (ppl forget that slave trading in W Africa predates colonialism so fending off Europeans isn't an excuse). The difference is that for the most part, European slavers used the money to fund colonialist exploitation which funded the establishment of their industries today. By participating in transatlantic slave trading, African leaders opened the door to colonialism the effects of which prevent them from building similar levels of industry. This is also why reparations are only being demanded from Europeans.

[@amenajackson8133]

Majority of the tribes didn't get any money or benefit. Europeans chose a few tribes and supported them with guns and ammo for them to raid rival tribes and kidnap people.

[@mogash]

Most people have the European version of the story instead of asking Afrikans. The dahomey emperor was not to blame for the slavery as a whole the king Wegbaja was the first king of dahomey who thought it was wise to trade with arabs in the 16s. The arabs proposed to the king to sell the prisoners he had in this kingdom and that's how the slavery start in dahomey. The king also wanted to conquer neighboring kingdoms and upon realizing the MINO warriors made up of women who were elephant hunters, were good at combat and ferocity he made them his guards and sent them for special missions. The dahomey are not the women warriors the dahomey is the kingdom, the warriors were called Mino warriors. They were used by the king to conquer neighboring kingdoms and imprison the fallen soldier and it was the kings counsel [made up of both men and women] that sold the prisoners to the arabs and later on to the Europeans. Then in the 17s a new king decided never to sell afrikans as slaves again and used the Mino to enforce this rule and protect the kingdom. He undid what his grandfather had done and that didn't sit well with the Europeans. They were attacked and enslaved by the french later on. But before they were attacked and defeated they had made Europeans and arabs fear ever stepping foot in dahomey. I think its time we told our own story because we have people in the diaspora believing the Minos sold people as slaves and now they are hating on the movie.

[@macummings7818]

Thank you so much for posting 🙌✨✨✨

[@mayowasworld]

thank you for writing and explaining this.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

🙌🏾I’ve been trying to tell ppl this very thing. Hopefully together we can slowly spread the truth! Just adding to what you said, the Mino were also known and the Agojie.

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

King Gezo said in the 1840's he would do anything the British wanted him to do apart from giving up slave trade: "The slave trade is the ruling principle of my people. It is the source and the glory of their wealth…the mother lulls the child to sleep with notes of triumph over an enemy reduced to slavery…"

[@dlc2479]

If we are accusing Europeans of whitewashing their history, the descendants of Dahomey could end up doing the same right? Making their history sound less bad in today's moral context.

[@marytadah5646]

I don't know . it seems to me that ppl are disappointed because they never heard that African kingdoms enslaved ppl and that's it. Hearing ppl who have watched the movie and those who know the specific history of the dahomey people, showed that the warrior actually fought against that. I really think Black people in the americas need to learn about african histories and not only use it as feel good stories about strength or whatever. I think it is weird that people did not questions the videos of those black kids who were mesmerized seeing a black mermaid even though there are so many stories and myths about Black mermaids or water spirits and water goddesses in the diaspora and on the continent. I mean I am also learning but I am confused how little this is shared to the kids because this should not be the case. Same here. How are people boycotting a part of history they very likely don't know without even seeing how that part of history was portrayed. I also think it's funny that so many in our communities are talking about Black royalty and queen and kings without one critic thought about the monarchy and what it could entail and how those actually looked like on the continent. I believe slavery was very often part of it though probably with different rules and customs, still. To compare it to the transatlantic slave trade just makes no sense. Still it doesn't make slavery better however why do people always want to compare it to the worst world atrocities committed by the clears instead of learning the actual history. However I think it's funny that some people think that colonizers who enslaved and thought we were animals , wanted to stop slavery. those who kept slavery alive and running even after the official ban and until today, actually saved anything for real. People really don't wanna hold colonizers accountable one bit .

[@Xara_K1]

Because colonizers have the momey (power). If Africa had that coin...

[@redrkstone]

The warriors enforced slavery, they didn’t oppose it. They were an integral part of the slave trade, and it was only the intervention of the British that stopped them.

[@ladysnowblood9320]

Please do your research before opening up your mouth. You sound very uneducated..

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

you are in denial. Slavery still happening in Africa today, not in France or Britain so that kinda stops your argument that the colonizers wanted to keep it going and the fairytale that Africans wanted an end

[@jermarwilliamson1552]

where do you get your information ?????, from the movie because the Dahomey tribe never fort to end slavery, they fort for slavery to keep going on.

[@tonyagibbs1963]

I also think it's important to remember that the colonizers were doing what they do: dismissing and driving over any land and culture they want. Dahomey may have had slaves. But to imagine they were so systemic about in the way Britain and the US did it is outrageous.

[@ivyrainbitch]

They sold their people into slavery

[@redrkstone]

Slaves were a major income stream for the Dahomey… let’s not excuse this evil by suggesting they were unsophisticated or accidental slave traders. It was deliberate, organized and evil. And let’s not forget it was the British who imposed a naval blockade on the ports of Dahomey in order to force them to end their slave trade.

[@Xara_K1]

@@redrkstone source? Coz I know for a FACT u are wrong on the British forcing an end to it because there was absolutely no altruistic benefit to them doing that. Even just logically that makes ZERO sense since the Caucasians have NEVER stopped anything without us fighting for it.

[@antwnhs213]

You're one google search away from the article in Wikipedia about the Dahomey kingdom and how they operated. They didn't just have slaves. They are the Nazi equivalent of Africa. Feel free to answer once you read about them.

[@sweetpoptart9486]

The arabs and white slave owners were so much worse than the dahomey.

[@tronwilliams8781]

Lopita was cast in the role but turned it down the role after she went to Africa for a documentary on the role and found out the true history and they then turned to viola to cast as the lead. The Dahomey whole economy was based off slavery for generations. They attacked and made war on other tribes so much that they depleted their men and needed the women to supplement the military to continue making war to have slaves to trade with other African kingdoms and Europeans.

[@Memelord-md5hs]

it is not nearly as simple as that, the reason for the women warriors was also in large part because of the need to give a good amount of the male population as tribute to the Oyo kingdom. It is not as simple as saying they were a purely evil people or these woke girlboss badasses. things to remember is that african slavery to other blacks was not as brutal as how whites treated their slaves The dahomey enslaved people to help protect their empire. And they sold them to the white people, but remember the whites were the ones buying them in mass to the point that they encouraged these slave trading economies. only saying the dahomey were evil slavers who deserved to die off and depleted themselves so much they drafted innocent women into their army. It is historical revisionism Im not saying they were all good people, they were not at all. But to ignore the history, and to also listen only to the european perspective on how they demonized many of these tribes in their reports of these regions. always take it with a grain of salt

[@caioribeirodossantosmoreir8852]

@@Memelord-md5hs It wasn't African Slavery tho, it was downright Transatlantic Slave Trade of the vilest variety, Dahomey played a central role in that institution and profited greatly from it. De Souza, the biggest slave trader ever, even relocated to Dahomey to have a better position in the slave trade business. He was even Chacha to the Oba who he himself helped to gain and attain power and built familial ties to the nobility to ensure he would always play a central role in the institution, the Dahomean royal family resisted the fight for abolition at every turn because of how central this was to their power, the only reason so many people from Dahomey were even enslaved is that they would annex territory and enslave the population or do slave raids on subjugated territories, their political goal was to keep their profitable slave markets active. And to portray Dahomey having any enmity towards European colonisers is very silly given how deep they were with the Portuguese. Colonisation was never a problem as long as it wouldn't impact the slave trade. The whole women warriors being a result of male soldier depletion strikes me as silly, I don't think I've ever read anything of the sort, but still, the movie portrayal of that empire is unbelievably stupid.

[@allbutperfect]

And yet the same Lupita turned around to work with De Beers, to "empower African women", an unethical colonial company with a more recent apartheid legacy ...that is still unethical to this day. Smells like a hypocrite. De Beers should be paying reparations to African communities instead of cheap empowerment tactics with some American celebrity but I guess that doesn't matter to Lupita's flexible ethics.

[@lisah8438]

​@@Memelord-md5hs Now I know you are not defending this because they are Black. That is the only reason you are defending this

[@wessexexplorer]

To shorten this down, you are saying we shouldn’t judge black people of the past by the standards of today? Whereas everyone else believes we shouldn’t judge people of the past by the standards of today. Also note that most people in Britain aren’t told that the Royal Navy fought slavery and slave traders tooth and nail. European countries fought each other for centuries, they didn’t consider themselves kin of other Europeans. Why should African be any different?

[@locdloaded2378]

It is a great movie. As a black women I am inspired & everyone should support!!

[@locdloaded2378]

@Ihate Apes if I want some sure

[@redrkstone]

How can you be inspired by murderers and slavers?

[@thembanitheone]

The Dahomey were very brutal. They didn't just sell off captives, they would use them as human sacrifices and offerings numbering in the thousands. There's a reason they got along so well with Portuguese/Spanish slavers... they shared the same dehumanising cruelty. Pan-Africanism wasn't a thing back then so they really didn't see it as "selling their own". The best thing that happened in that region was when the Dahomey failed to win against the Egba then were spanked repeatedly by the French. Karma.

[@thembanitheone]

I did like the acting in the movie though. The action was cool too. As far as painting Dahomey in a noble light... it's not for me. No thanks.

[@ladysnowblood9320]

@@thembanitheone Facts… Wish ppl Could understand this. But OUR ppl are WILLFULLY ignorant and that’s heartbreaking 💔

[@uwanaibanga9488]

It's definitely misogynoir because I'm sensing similar feedback to the Wakanda Forever. Being Nigerian, I resonated with the obstinate daughter who wanted to be respected through fighting and the queen who wanted the same and use beauty and diplomacy as her tools. I was so happy to be represented in such a complex story cause I felt so many of my natures and themes dueling it out. From brawn vs beauty, self-preservation vs altruism, duty vs passion, and submission vs autonomy. This was such a beautifully complex story which contained the least story sanitization that I have seen from a black & Hollywood movie. Boycotting a movie that you haven't even watched is new levels of weaponized ignorance because now you are just refusing to think it through. You willfully know that you could not know what the fuq you're talking about but lie to yourself like you do. Watching Dave Chapelle but not watching this is exhaustingly inconsistent energy and a soccer match of moving goalposts.

[@africansun84]

Well said

[@OrganicAlumination]

I could have sworn when black people enslaved other black people it wasn't so ingrained with so much hate and it wasn't like stripping someone of their actual culture like couldn't you buy yourself out of slavery and I'm pretty sure you could still speak your native language too

[@Xara_K1]

That's my issue with the outcry. Most of it is coming from fba/ados who identify with their history beginning with slavery. So they have an issue with the sellers but wanna unite with the buyers who inflicted horrific brutality

[@loveheals6184]

As a West African I can't and won't gloss over our complicity. There were some ain't sht traitors in the mix. But there were also those who were in a horrible bind and basically betrayed others to keep themselves or direct family from being kidnapped. And I really doubt they knew it was the absolute evil it was. Two of my ethnic groups, The Hausa and Fulani had wars even though much of the cultures are similar and captives/prisoners of war were called "slaves" but you could work or marry your way into freedom. They are different groups but in Nigeria, Niger, Ghana, Cameroon and Chad, we intermarried so much we're sometimes listed as Hausa-Fulani. These wars are how my Dad's side came to be Ghanaian. A Fulani group murdered an ancestor and his siblings. My great, great, great, grandpa fled Nigeria for Ghana. But he was half Fulani and our families continued to intermarry with Fulanis as well as other groups. If you'll forgive the example, it's kinda like if a Christian or Muslim says they hate Jews cos they killed Jesus. That bigotry erases the fact that Jesus was a Jew and that there were many Jews who loved and supported him. So it's always partly an issue of who does this skewed narrative benefit?

[@loveheals6184]

@Tricia Loves Arts and Crafts I thank you deeply for engaging with my (unintentionally long) spiel and receiving them as intended.

[@dlc2479]

@@loveheals6184 Thank you so much for this, we need to confront the reality that some African tribal leaders were complicit and profited from the enslavement of Africans in the Americas. Trying to whitewash that history isn't helpful because it's documented.

[@loveheals6184]

@@dlc2479 I thank you for engaging with my words. Even if it hadn't been documented in books, it would still be present in some of the oral history. It must be addressed, discussed, apologized for with meaningful, consistent efforts at helping to bring about healing. If you'll permit me an edit: it wasn't only leaders. Some were regular folks trying to keep from being enslaved themselves. It may sound strange to hear but it also fractured African societies on the continent. The relatives were devastated by losing siblings, children, spouses, parents, etc. And of course the intense lack of trust for everyone around. In my mom's language, sometimes when we hear one of our relatives speaking to someone else in a language we don't speak, we say, "Don't sell me" half-joking/half-serious as in "don't betray me". The European teachers stopped taking students to dungeons called "castles" because African students cried. They were confused telling them, but it wasn't you. But it's obviously tragic AND it's family. So for the most part, we REALLY DON'T know what y'all went through and go through here. And our school books didn't say what they did to us in Africa, either. They make it like history started shortly after enslavers/colonizers arrived and they overall made things better.

[@lyndak3269]

Please my Black people support this movie. All our history isn't good, we must see the movie for ourselves first and then if you're not satisfied speak on it but to boycott a movie one must know fully why to boycott.

[@alldn666]

They are not us !!!!

[@ivyrainbitch]

I'm not supporting this bullshit

[@shawnwest4350]

support a garbage movie and knowing all the money goes back to white people because it got black faces don't mean sh*t

[@spartacus9008]

Hollywood movie promoting and pushing a movie that praises slave traders, Dahomey warriors and kingdom was the worst !

[@BlackGodKing-oi2gr]

Support movies that Black ppl make. Not stories created, written and distributed by white ppl. There is literally no point in it. Idc if it is empowering the act of supporting the movie isn’t empowerment.

[@keisha_james]

Also having seen the movie now at TIFF before it's officially in theatres -- without spoiling too much let me just say that the issue of Dayhome working in the slave trade, is not glossed over. Alsooo, the only critiques I wanna see about it would be from other Black people like your video here, cuz why am I seeing white folks chiming in. NAH.

[@louisachalarca6494]

Exactly!!!

[@Xara_K1]

Yep. Its actually empowering

[@tonyagibbs1963]

Thank you! I'm looking forward to seeing it.

[@scottjones7005]

🤡🌎

[@Bruhman1992]

No they tried to lighten their role and act like it was against their will when it wasn't.

[@dustinmaxwell259]

Sweetie, the only thing that hurts me is seeing the levels black women are willing to stoop to in order to get more screentime in Hollywood. Anybody can see through this charade. Your expressions give you away. The fact is, other African tribes described the Agojie/Dahomey as ruthless slavers. That's why Nupita refused to take the role. Once upon a time, I thought better of Viola Davis. But now I see she will do/say ANYTHING to further her career. From now on, I won't believe 99% of anything that comes from her mouth. And I'm no longer one of her fans.

[@GoGetFree]

Honestly, I feel like I have enrolled in the University of Mayowa. Professor, I’m dialed in, tuned in, taking notes, and patiently awaiting the next discourse. Whether through Patron or KZbin, I would love a reading list of educational resources to resonate on. I need this content to sink in deeply into my consciousness because it’s giving liberation psychology and I’m here for it.

[@SayconTalks]

Really great commentary as a person who saw the movie twice and appreciated all of the discussion and the discourse- the conversation that was happening inside of the movie about the very thing that everyone is protesting is one of the reasons why people should watch it -it’s just a numbers thing the more often movies with these type of people receive support the more opportunities for additional movies with these types of people have a chance to be made. If people don’t understand that the nuanced stories increase each time

[@3lfprinc3ss]

omg thank you!! it’s so obvious NO ONE complaining actually watched the movie-they’re all repeating the SAME conservative talking points🙄

[@glenngoodall802]

@@3lfprinc3ss And you know that because.......? you can watch the movie online as I did.

[@Nooooooooooooooooooooo7913]

Thank you for this. Because as an African American and Viola Davis fan I’m confused lol

[@happythredz]

i love your makeup in this one. your eyebrows look so good and i wanna start doing black liner combos for my lips. i really want to watch woman king tmrw since i don’t work mondays and i haven’t had socials for a while to see ppl bad mouthing it

[@mayowasworld]

thank you boo! I love doing an ombre red lip look ;)

[@empress9143]

Folks don’t like to sit with the truth, that yes history is uncomfortable. I saw the movie, and I digested the discomfort and still enjoyed the movie. Folks really also hate the fact that it made “black men seem weak, brutal and effeminate”.

[@KingAries85]

Well that and it’s not historically accurate this is like making a movie painting the nazis and the savior of the Jews

[@FranciaMichelle]

The only reason those people think the black men were weak is because they don't understand that female warriors were the norm. Amazon like women have always existed, until patriarchy came. And Black men were strong and fighting with the Dahomey, so then also they didn't watch the film.

[@Cowz19999]

Well, the movie takes a lot of "liberties". The women used rifles (that they traded for slaves), they weren't these strong physical fighters the movie makes them out to be.

[@Cowz19999]

@@FranciaMichelle Read a history book. The women used rifles cause they weren't physically up to par. It makes no sense to send your women out to battle.

[@edwynnkelley136]

I guarantee you would be uncomfortable to talk about presenting the facts what this movie ignored and lied about.

[@mewmew6158]

The movie was great and showed a bit of the complexity going on. Those sold were prisoners of ongoing war in the movie and even that didn't sit right with some of the characters, which is how in the movie Dahomey ended up chasing the slavers out of the port. It definitely didn't glorify the horrors of anything going on in the movie. It was sad and compelling.

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

but that's what didn't sit right as this is whitewashing history and was actually created by the white female writers. The truth is Britain had to force them to stop selling other Africans to white Europeans so its quite the "retelling" isn't it? I'm not saying some Dahomey in real life may not have been conflicted, of course some would but the fact is they carried on selling people even after slavery was abolished right up until 1860s. If that story was told it wouldn't have been as "empowering" now would it?

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

And written by 2 white women

[@Bruhman1992]

The problem was the that never happened the dhomey never had a problem with slavery and had to be stopped by the British cause it was so profitable.

[@dlc2479]

@@Bruhman1992 Yep, I find the attempts to whitewash African involvement in slavery insidious. Dahomey and other slaving tribes were motivated by money just like the Europeans were. Does that mean that they were not also victims under white supremacy? No, but let's not ignore documented historical facts because it doesn't go with our black unity narrative.

[@ixal9089]

This is exactly the whitewashing people complain about. Dahomey was never against slavery and had any moral objections about it. King Ghezo even bragged about it, calling slavery their national pride. And tgey also did not only sell POWs, they raided villages for slaves as you can see in the interviews of Cudjoe Lewis where he retells how the Agojie raided his village and enslaved him.

[@blackgayhistorychannel]

Thank you! I come from the Anziku kingdom and guess what, they were complicit as well. I find this pushback ridiculous

[@mayowasworld]

same because if we really examine it, a lot of kingdoms did the same thing.

[@ixal9089]

@@mayowasworld Not in the same extend as Dahomey. Unlike what the movie lies about they were not just small time slavers who were forced to do it, they were one of the really big players in the slave trade and resisted abolishing the slave trade till the bitter end.

[@zakiya0325]

Sis I love your honesty! and balance! I appreciate the research you put in to give us a well-informed, genuine perspective. I look forward to seeing the movie with this additional connect. Also, the 💄 is giving red hots.

[@ladybeecreation3342]

I love how you embrace Your channel, the messages you put out. Awareness is the key to power...KEEP IT GOING♥️ I'm in Myra's world!

[@mayowasworld]

thank you!!!

[@ixal9089]

Too bad awareness here seems to include a hefty dose of denying history.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@ixal9089 Who's denying history? No one is except the ones boycotting this movie. It's a movie for entertainment purposes. If you want accuracy then read a book about them.

[@BAM5879]

@@suzygirl1843you can make a movie for entertainment purposes without feeding false information and rewriting history. And the truth doesn't have to be exclusively in books

[@mattsspelman1457]

@@suzygirl1843 They are literally lying about what happened. Literally denying history. Not watching a fictional movie that is pretending to be true is not.

[@SoFrolushes]

I want to watch this movie. My top 3 ancestry is Ivory Coast/Ghana, Benin & Togo, Nigeria. What you said about the Benin ancestry possibly linking back to the Dahomey kingdom is something I never considered or thought about.

[@BlossomFlower285]

Mines as well 🥹🙏🏾

[@ladysnowblood9320]

Maybe do you research first.. 🤦🏽‍♀️🙅🏽‍♀️. Girl..

[@spartacus9008]

Dahomey enslaved you

[@SoFrolushes]

@@spartacus9008 Or another Kingdom. Or my ancestors were victims of portoguese village raids that side stepped the Dahomey and other West African rulers. We just dont know definitively.

[@gatestimonymiracle1302]

If you are Ghanaians that means you can have Dahomey in you. Most of us ewe from Dahomey live in Ghana today in the Volta region.

[@destinyinfused1373]

I ❤ it! I am going to see again today!

[@icefairy514]

I recommend ppl watch the movie ...it explains the title of the movie.. and alot of what ppl are complaining about. I'm happy everything wasn't included in the trailer. It's one of the best movies I've seen in my life.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

I'm not supporting this movie. The Dahomey were the MOST savage slave traders. They did *mass slaughtering rituals* of the slaves they caught. They are the worst that African nations had to offer. The reason why MANY of us Black people are here in the Americas, Europe and the Caribbean is because of the Dahomey. When Britain wanted to stop the slave trade the Dahomey said no we will not stop SMH. This is the movie Hollyweird wants us as Black people to be proud of SMH. Notice Hollyweird did not give us a movie about how the West African Moors conquered Spain and ruled it and southern Europe for over 700 years and how those Moors taught whites civilization... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about the Nubian Kush Queen that made Caesar stand down... Notice that Hollyweird did not give us a movie about the black nations that actually fought against the European slave trade... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about Black Egypt. Nope, those white producers gave you a movie about Africans killing and enslaving other Africans... We all know who runs Hollyweird. Imagine European Jews giving you a movie where they want you to be proud about a clan of European Jews catching and selling themselves into Nazi camps.. You'll NEVER see that movie and we all know why. Let's not even talk about the level of misandry against Black men in this movie SMH. Check this great breakdown of the movie... kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPHomx4qJygn7M

[@estherblount6475]

Thank You Mayowa. I saw the movie and while there were problems, I am glad it was made. Many of us do not now our history. This movie may make some people read about this part of our history in Africa.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

I'm not supporting this movie. The Dahomey were the MOST savage slave traders. They did *mass slaughtering rituals* of the slaves they caught. They are the worst that African nations had to offer. The reason why MANY of us Black people are here in the Americas, Europe and the Caribbean is because of the Dahomey. When Britain wanted to stop the slave trade the Dahomey said no we will not stop SMH. This is the movie Hollyweird wants us as Black people to be proud of SMH. Notice Hollyweird did not give us a movie about how the West African Moors conquered Spain and ruled it and southern Europe for over 700 years and how those Moors taught whites civilization... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about the Nubian Kush Queen that made Caesar stand down... Notice that Hollyweird did not give us a movie about the black nations that actually fought against the European slave trade... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about Black Egypt. Nope, those white producers gave you a movie about Africans killing and enslaving other Africans... We all know who runs Hollyweird. Imagine European Jews giving you a movie where they want you to be proud about a clan of European Jews catching and selling themselves into Nazi camps.. You'll NEVER see that movie and we all know why. Let's not even talk about the level of misandry against Black men in this movie SMH. Check this great breakdown of the movie... kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPHomx4qJygn7M

[@bronxmami1404]

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[@mayowasworld]

awww thank u boo! I also love doing an ombre lip every so often :)

[@GrilledCheeseKiller]

Thank you. I always appreciate your views on such topics

[@everythingispolitics6526]

Very well said. Can't wait to watch it.

[@MoneyOptionsConnect]

Their actions didn't exist in a vacuum - it's wild to ignore their treacherous environment. They keep mentioning that the british wanted slavery to end with their naval blockades but ignore the fact that it does not appear that it was an act of remorse for slavery. It's the same treaties in foreign languages that were supposed to be used to end export of enslaved people which the colonisers also used to take control of and rule by force many African areas. Coastal areas such as Dahomey still got taken over by France in the war when the people tried to resist french taxation. The European scramble for Africa at the Berlin conference some years after the acclaimed end of slavery was where Africa was officially torn apart between several European countries to feed on the African people and resources with no restraint. The treaties of control were obtained over African areas by coercion or machine gun power.Some Africans became hunters themselves to survive but it only delayed them becoming prey too eventually. Even after Europeans stopped taking enslaved people off the African continent they had no issues with using the people as domestic enslaved people to produce the cash crops, export products and extreme taxation which kept Africa over exploited. Africa has since been in various stages of simmering or outright internal conflicts across the continent. All these internal conflicts and wars are great obstacles to development,with heavy human, economic and social costs affecting the continent to date.Please do some research.

[@PussyWillowFairy]

Whew! That is one helluva run-on sentence. 😅

[@PussyWillowFairy]

We should be careful about assuming that all colonial nations were on the same page. The Royal Navy blockade did not please the French & Portuguese bc they had forts at Whydah. From what I’ve read, the British didn’t have an anti-slavery treaty with Dahomey. Apparently, Dahomey could refuse a treaty with the British bc their capital was inland. The British did have sincere objections to slavery, owing to a humanitarian movement & the Industrial Revolution. There can be an argument made that the British did not live up to those humanitarian standards during colonialism. However, it’s reductive to filter the conflict between the Dahomeans & Britain through the typical lens of the Dahomeans being powerless Africans being steamrolled by Europeans. That being said, I couldn’t care less if ppl want to see the movie.

[@MoneyOptionsConnect]

@@PussyWillowFairy you don't get to give the British the benefit of the doubt just because you feel like it when there are clear actions that demonstrate otherwise. We know they did not have humanitarian sentiments towards Africans because they saw fit to pay their own people who were slave owners compensation (a sum so large that they only finished extracting it from British tax payers of all backgrounds in 2015 ~the irony) yet didn't see fit to pay ANYTHING to the African people they enslaved and kept on the various Caribbean islands. The reality is that colonisation was evil, NOBODY sent Europe to do it (the white man's burden is a stupid farce to cover up their poser drunkenness) and you can never get away with trying to rationalise it. Their behaviour when they took part in the translantic slave trade was appalling and they had not changed their mindset about seeing Africans as less than them even after the so called abolition . They needed an excuse to position themselves for the next thing they wanted to do which was to take over the land and people instead of just removing people like they did before. If they really wanted to stop Europe from taking advantage of Africa the Berlin conference would never have taken place. Recently Britain pulled out of the EU screaming that they felt they were being ruled by an unelected foreign entity even though anyone can see that it was just an association where Britain actually had more controlling power than many of the countries in the EU. So they know how horrible and absolutely ridiculous it was to go to someone else's land and take rulership & ownership over them, there was no mistake in their intention which was what they delivered and along with the other European countries they left the continent a wreck(except they never actually left is the real sad joke of the matter) The Dahomey was conquered eventually by the French because they had higher tech weapons so I am not sure why you are trying to act like Dahomey could have completely resisted if they wanted. No matter how you dice this, the Europeans left their homeland continent to rob& pillage other continents, that's the history and that's why most of the world is as unbalanced and messed up as it is even today. To imagine colonisation was not even taught in schools as it really happened shows the ridiculous efforts that have been invested in keeping it all secret like other people have not been sacrificed to have the western progress. Europeans who had traded with Africans for many many years, even written books about how much better and comparable some of the kingdoms they met in Africa were to where they were coming from , for the sake of greed, of covetousness decided to make any and every excuse to degrade and dehumanise Africans for profit. Do we even dare talk about the evils Belgium did in Congo or the is the French or the Dutch or the Germans in various African countries, where do we start this horror stories from???

[@mayowasworld]

BOOOM!!! YOU BROKE THIS DOWN WONDERFULLY!!!

[@mayowasworld]

THANK YOU FOR WRITING ALL OF THIS!

[@robertofulton]

Would support a film that glorified the confederacy? And if not what is the difference between these two situations?

[@MissJhane]

GOOOOO SEE THE MOVIE PEOPLE. I WENT LAST NIGHT WITH AN OPEN MIND AND HONESTLY WE NEED TO SEE LIKE PEOPLE SAW "HIGHER LEARNING " MOVIE BACK IN THE 90'S. THIIIIISSSS IS SO MUCH MORE POWERFUL, BRAVE, STRONG, RESILIENT STORY. PLEASE GO SEE IT WITH AN OPEN MIND.

[@crazysexycool4361]

I appreciate a Sensible voice within a sea of ignorance & confusion 🙏🏿

[@gatestimonymiracle1302]

I love this video you did a good job explaining it.

[@mayowasworld]

thank u boo!

[@lyra7799]

I watched the movie for my friends birthday before I knew much about it. But I think they they weren’t entirely saying that the Dahomey is innocent because Viola Davis’ character was arguing with the king a lot about not trading slaves and they mentioned that the kings mother was even sold by her own son, the kings brother. I really don’t know the history though so please correct me if I’m wrong.

[@africanandproud6792]

Thank you sister. Awesome thoughts.

[@shellyshell1899]

Hell young lady.... I've always watched your channel because I love your hair n makeup n attire etc. I really love what you talk about with all the history n such. It's so I lighting to me because I don't and sadly have never really known much of historical events. Keep doing what you're doing I love it. You're educated me in so many ways...... Appreciate you lil sis!!! 😃☺️😍

[@mayowasworld]

aww thank you for these kind words!!!

[@tee-tee172]

The movie is phenomenal. I can not wait to hear your commentary of the movie.

[@mayowasworld]

I just saw it yesterday with my mom!

[@tshegomofokeng1684]

It's crazy how we can support monarch stories/movies in every other context, but feel the need to problematize African monarch stories. I mean, Game of Thrones (inspired by true monarchs from all over the world), Tudors, The Crown, Spencer, Vikings, etc. etc. All these other stories get to be romanticized without boycott or discourse. But black lead African stories need to be held at some weirdly higher moral standard?? That's dizzy.

[@missyaero]

Yup 😄👍🏾. You got it in one.

[@amenajackson8133]

💯

[@evano5635]

Black folks joining in the outrage because of their self hate is interesting. Anyways black Americans can stick to their slave movies while we Africans will continue making movies celebrating our history.

[@balancingenergies]

Great Reporting

[@Atuchy]

THIS is the review I wanted!!! ❤️

[@victoriousspirit8955]

I’m going to try to go see the movie this week. 😊❤

[@XabeebaX]

Thank you for this analysis! I look forward to your critiques of the film. And I agree that people are mad because men aren’t the main characters portraying physical strength

[@XabeebaX]

@@teeahtate I definitely feel like the film attempted to show the reason for them wanting to continue the slave trade was driven by economic power (the Kings wife attempting to persuade the King to continue it so they won’t be “peasants”), however the film also attempted to humanize them and depict the Dahomey people seeing the inhumanity of European enslavement and even being captured themselves as a way to rewrite the story of how it should have gone…not necessarily the way it actually happened. I would love to see a film about Madame Tinubu who actively fought Europeans once she realized they were being exploited

[@Nennabutterlfy]

Love this video! Thanks for answering so much questions I had ❤️❤️

[@humblerenell1015]

Can't wait to see it

[@ishastrega6851]

I love this vodeo. Finally a nuanced discussion of the history behind this movie.

[@tumweonlycommentary2797]

Really?.I can't really critique the accuracy of movie because I wasn't there at that time but it's great to see Black women (especially Thuso Mbedu, representing South Africa & & Africa) seen as Battle strategists and taking the lead in this movie. To call this movie a glorification of slavery is equivalent to saying Gladiator, Braveheart, and that movie where Europeans portrayed as Africans in Kemet(modern day Egypt). If you critique the glorification of slave hood, let's go deeper into the OG of parasocial relationships Pimp Pastors, Religious and Spiritual Cult leaders, Chiefs, not forgetting stanworship (the beehive, barbs, ninjas, beliebers, the Navy, etc).

[@JustHereForCats]

Thank you so much for speaking on this…. I don’t really have all the words to convey my feelings on this subject. It’s nuanced, and it’s so irritating that some people would rather use a few buzzwords to gloss over the grey areas of the subject matter. You spoke eloquently, and I managed to learn a few things 💜 thank you! And please thank your mother for me, her words resonated as well 💜💜

[@sunnyeffeh9197]

PLEASE WHEN IS THE CLEAR VERSION OF THE WOMAN KING COMING OUT? I CAN'T WAIT.

[@bcpeinhardt]

Hit it dead on. I have no doubt that a large chunk of people boycotting this movie because of Hollywood whitewashing would gleefully watch The Greatest Showman or Gladiator or something without commenting a bit about Hollywood changing history in order to create a hero native.

[@mayowasworld]

that part.

[@ImJustHereWithaBeer]

But those movies were criticized for historical inaccuracies so idk what you mean.

[@jpah8944]

@@ImJustHereWithaBeer exactly, so was Braveheart.

[@itnotmeitu3896]

> the movie didn’t glorify the Roman Empire > didn’t make the slavers heros > the movie is about the plight of slaves in the Roman Empire But please, do go on💀

[@bcpeinhardt]

@@itnotmeitu3896 Except it kind of did. It centered around the completely false story that 1. Marcus Aurelius wanted to return the empire to a republic and 2. that he was against gladiatorial combat. The hero of the film is not a slave rebelling against the Roman slave state (which happened all the time actually, the Romans were terrified of slave rebellions), but instead a high ranking military hero tapped for leadership by Marcus Aurelius, wrongly removed from command and placed in bondage. Ask yourself why this has to be the case, Why can we not get behind a "low born" hero? (We've been doing this to folk heroes at least since Robin Hood btw). Why do we instead prefer a general who is effectively noble, and who spent his entire career slaughtering Gauls. There is no reconciling of this btw, At the end of the film, he is honored specifically because of his service as a "soldier of Rome". Where are we supposed to think the gladiators came from except roman military conquest? Historically, for a roman general, the primary way you became wealthy on campaign was by taking slaves. The movie could have addressed this, shown us some change in Maximus' feelings about his military career, but instead they end with civic pride in the institutions that ended up killing him. It's honestly a deeply confusing way to end the film in my opinion. But the point is that we are effectively celebrating a militaristic slave state and it's fictional heroes rather than any of the real life people who died at the hands of said state, I think because in the US we see ourselves partially as the inheritors of the Roman Republic. In that context, we find the figure of Maximus worthy of celebration because he champions "the republic", while disregarding his obvious involvement in the slave trade. We do that with our founding father's too, and I don't think it's fair to ask people to hold historical figures to modern standards, we have to celebrate the good while recognizing the evil, but I think it's entirely fair to hold modern fictional characters to modern standards. I think we already celebrate enough slavers as it is.

[@africanandproud6792]

As black people we are very good in the art of self owniership. We love to sabotage our own success. Will Smith’s biggest night at the Oscars and an opportunity for black people to take pride , he slaps a comedian. Young black women make an incredible film , a chance to inspire our young girls and for Viola to win best actor Oscar and how do we respond ? Boycott it.😅

[@BlackGodKing-oi2gr]

We aren’t supporting her. We are supporting the movie company that gets paid billions of dollars a year while we still have no creative control over any of our content. Viola is just an actor that works for white Hollywood. Supporting her is a minuscule compared supporting someone like Tyler Perry who has his own studios.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

I'm not supporting this movie. The Dahomey were the MOST savage slave traders. They did *mass slaughtering rituals* of the slaves they caught. They are the worst that African nations had to offer. The reason why MANY of us Black people are here in the Americas, Europe and the Caribbean is because of the Dahomey. When Britain wanted to stop the slave trade the Dahomey said no we will not stop SMH. This is the movie Hollyweird wants us as Black people to be proud of SMH. Notice Hollyweird did not give us a movie about how the West African Moors conquered Spain and ruled it and southern Europe for over 700 years and how those Moors taught whites civilization... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about the Nubian Kush Queen that made Caesar stand down... Notice that Hollyweird did not give us a movie about the black nations that actually fought against the European slave trade... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about Black Egypt. Nope, those white producers gave you a movie about Africans killing and enslaving other Africans... We all know who runs Hollyweird. Imagine European Jews giving you a movie where they want you to be proud about a clan of European Jews catching and selling themselves into Nazi camps.. You'll NEVER see that movie and we all know why. Let's not even talk about the level of misandry against Black men in this movie SMH. Check this great breakdown of the movie... kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPHomx4qJygn7M

[@missyaero]

@@integratedboxingsystem8827 You don't sound well mate. You're steeped in a lot of confusion. It's pretty sad.

[@amenajackson8133]

Exactly. Whites enslaved and killed their own then make glorious movies about their empires and nobody bats an eye. Why not just focus on the acting.

[@colinw7205]

@@missyaero No mate you are the one that is confused. @Integrated Boxing System gave us and you a whole bunch of facts and truths and your response is not the to dispute those facts with countervailing evidence of your own but to say "You don't sound well mate. You're steeped in a lot of confusion..." No your the one that's pretty sad.

[@maxwellali-kinney5856]

Loved this!

[@MM-lo2dk]

Thank you Mayowa.

[@Nooooooooooooooooooooo7913]

And it’s a lot of these foundational black Americans and conservative black Americans with American flags in their bios that are mad about this too. But y’all are so happy to be American right? But how did we become “Americans” in the first place? Lol it’s just so strange how people pick a choose a narrative when it’s convenient. But I definitely agree that this is an important part of history that needs to be talked about. People will talk about how Africans sold other Africans into slavery like it’s some sort of slam dunk on critics of colonization and white supremacy. But it was the Europeans who put slavery into overdrive through colonization and justified the abysmal treatment of black people by constructing the idea of race and white supremacy in the first place. White people had their slaves, prisoners of war and indentured servants too.

[@marolatv618]

Why would they be mad? They should want the true history of Africa to be told. I think that you are confusing them with pan-Africans. Pan-Africanists love to glorify Africa and never tell the truth. We need movies about all of the African slave trades all over the continent and their results. A lot of African slave trades sold people from different tribes and different religions. To the point where our African 'family' sold entire tribes into slavery thus they sold entire tribes into extinction. As an FBA/ADOS I want us black Americans to know the true history! We need to stop worshipping Africa.

[@billcipher3946]

Arabs

[@illytimmy2613]

Love your content, and this is a very important video. Dahomey empire is Republic of Benin not be confused with the Benin empire which is in Nigeria. I also find it how funny how a movie that is based on a real place like Dahomey is frowned upon but Wakanda is praised. Maybe it really is Misogyny

[@missyaero]

It's something. Generally the darker the woman doing her thing the more trolls appear.

[@monicacharming3123]

Very informative thank you

[@AmericanCopperDragonChile]

So glad you gave perspective 🙂

[@hugsandfries7252]

I’m just starting to watch, and I know this is serious, but you’re my fav KZbinr and you’re mad pretty 😍. I’ll be back with a more serious comment when I’m done with the video 😂. Big fan♥️💜

[@jaysonb.6669]

If you go see this film, just remember that it's about as historically accurate as Quentin Tarantino's "Inglorious Bastards". Actually worse cause at least in that film the nazis were still the bad guys lol.

[@mizanna622]

The Dahomey weren't portrayed as the "good people," though, so what are you talking about? Even in "Inglorious Bastards," there were Germans who were anti-Hitler. Similarly, here, they showed African women who didn't agree with the slave trade. Make it make sense. Y'all don't like Dark-skinned BW, and rather than come out and say, that's the issue -- you're on this bs. If Gal Gadot can do "Wonder Woman" and some fair skinned person played the main character, this movie would be Oscar nominated.

[@BobyJooba]

@Chico Anfernee Conrad That's completly false tho. The movie is not like that at all, maybe you shouldn't judge a movie based on a trailer ?

[@yohanalemma7970]

I was so happy to see this video.

[@keabokan9768]

Just saw it!! I really liked it!!

[@maryqueenofscots3006]

Let’s put aside the white people’s criticism for a minute. Why are black people mad over this movie? Is it because it’s mostly dark skinned casts? Is it because black people don’t like to see dark skinned women in any position of power, desirability and representing them?? We all know this movie is fictional and did not actually depict the true event yet black people are foaming in the mouth discrediting the movie because the whites are. I will certainly be supporting this movie.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

I'm not supporting this movie. The Dahomey were the MOST savage slave traders. They did *mass slaughtering rituals* of the slaves they caught. They are the worst that African nations had to offer. The reason why MANY of us Black people are here in the Americas, Europe and the Caribbean is because of the Dahomey. When Britain wanted to stop the slave trade the Dahomey said no we will not stop SMH. This is the movie Hollyweird wants us as Black people to be proud of SMH. Notice Hollyweird did not give us a movie about how the West African Moors conquered Spain and ruled it and southern Europe for over 700 years and how those Moors taught whites civilization... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about the Nubian Kush Queen that made Caesar stand down... Notice that Hollyweird did not give us a movie about the black nations that actually fought against the European slave trade... Notice that Hollyweird did not give you a movie about Black Egypt. Nope, those white producers gave you a movie about Africans killing and enslaving other Africans... We all know who runs Hollyweird. Imagine European Jews giving you a movie where they want you to be proud about a clan of European Jews catching and selling themselves into Nazi camps.. You'll NEVER see that movie and we all know why. Let's not even talk about the level of misandry against Black men in this movie SMH. Check this great breakdown of the movie... kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPHomx4qJygn7M

[@amenajackson8133]

@@integratedboxingsystem8827 Did they slaughter the slaves or did they sell them? Pick one Because you can't sell dead slaves.

[@ixal9089]

Would a movie about heroic Confederates who fight for state rights be ok because its fictional? Thats the extend of whitewashing the woman king does.

[@elainerekopantswe2933]

People are brain washed so much nowadays that they don't even see that this is perpetuating a negative stereotype, the idea that if it's in Africa it must be violent and all about machetes, the fact that Hollywood glorifies war and violence to an extent that we have become desensitized to actual real war and violence and that they are typecasting "Black" women as something that is inaccurate. Now everyone in the world when they meet an African women like me they will be expecting me to be this Dahomey warrior type of person. But hey guess some of us are just overthinking it right? 😉🤭😧 Chuckle, chuckle. ✌️ Stay blessed.

[@elainerekopantswe2933]

@@integratedboxingsystem8827 Well said. So much brainwashing and indoctrination unfortunately. People are way asleep and deep in the hole unfortunately. Also many of the women leaders who fought and liberated Africa were spiritual person's, they fought inspite of their non violence beliefs but becuase they didn't have a choice but yes you are right Hollywood would show that when hell freezes over. 🤔 Chuckle, chuckle.

[@london4447]

Please do another review after you have seen the film. I’m curious about your take on it once you’ve seen it.

[@Ami-ml7gp]

Thank you for discussing this. I just saw this pop up on Vudu and was curious what it was about. I have not seen it yet, but here is my take on it. My father is 66 years old and grew up in the deep South during segregation. He always supports black movies whether they are good or bad. His thought process is if we do not support the movies even if we don't agree with the content/actors/actresses/producers, Hollywood will think it is not profitable and cease to produce that content. I think that's the reason so many people supported Black Panther and Wakanda Forever. Even though they may not be a fan of the superhero motif, at least someone was willing to tell our story.

[@simonjaz1279]

But black panther was good. This woman king movie glorifies slavery...lol

[@rahshedasmith5812]

Great video. I just subscribed. After I saw the film, I checked out the documentary “Warrior Women with Lupita Nyong’o”.

[@MakaykayLAMB]

I love the way that your mother explained that and I will make sure that I will tell my children that one day. I think that is a beautiful way to explain how we should stand together as black people. Especially with children, i remember other black kids talking badly about me or even me joining in on bullying the chocolate brown girl and this is a PERFECT way to make children think about their actions towards one another.

[@angie101972]

White ppl took slavery to an extreme. That Africans didn’t do to the over Africans. I also read that slavery was a small part of their economy. I’m so glad you touched on this topic

[@jjamison2027]

There’s slavery right now in Atlanta. Over 10,000 black women and girls missing And never being found bc of our refusal to see ourselves as the culprit.

[@thescienceline9420]

Thank you for addressing Mayowa

[@scroogemcduckrich9705]

Excellent video.. thank you

[@bookertdouglass8360]

I don’t know where you are going with the Megan Markle comment. Everything you said was fine up to that point . The constant toxic vitriol directed to the Duchess is about limiting the aspirations of women of colour the syntax being the Cinderella outcome is only preserved for Becky, Darcy,Felicity, and Chelsy!

[@missyaero]

Plus she has segregated the most popular member of the royal family 🤣

[@njungelloyd]

2:49 "Slavery was a result of colonization" um... No. It wasn't. You really need to brush up on African history because the truth. Even hard truths are important. Africa Colonization "officially" happened with the 1896 partition of African content amongst the imperialist European nations. And it wasn't until 1963 in my country of Kenya for example that we attained independence from the Brits. Slave trade began in the 13/4/5th century, depending on which part of Africa. First with the Portuguese then ultimately the other European nations joined in the spoils. Please look up the treaties the Portuguese made with African kingdoms on the western African from Senegal to DRC congo after trying to forcefully take slaves and finally deciding to trade for them instead, and this was after losing naval scurmishes in mordern day Senegal for example. Please look into how DRC Congo monarchs for example got sooo indespensable and rich off of slave trade to the point they visited and even had portraits in European palaces. By the time Colonialism came to Africa, slavery had already been abolished in the Americas & Britain. In fact, the only "European monarch" that practiced Slavery at the turn of the 20th Century was the Ottoman Empire (modern day turkey) and that was until around 1912 thereabouts. Disclaimer: My dates could be a bit off as I'm writing this from memory but one fact remains undisputable. IT WAS AFRICANS THAT SOLD OTHER AFRICANS into slavery. First to Portuguese middle men in transatlantic slave trade and ultimately to the Brits and others later on.

[@mosesthomas3976]

we need to have more conversation about black slave traders because that's how slavery began. it wasn't just Europeans snatching Africans from there home.

[@claudiaakosta]

Thank you for the educational video, I didn't want to give money to the movie because all of the backlash I have been hearing and all the info about it. But thanks to you I make my own research and I will watching it when is available on streaming. Also some of this misunderstood history also has happened in Mexico, a good chunk of the population and educational books tell us that where the spanish that destroyed Tenochtitlan and that it’s not accurate, many other cultures joined forces to destroy those who has abused them...there are some books that said that only 1% of that army was European.

[@adwoamk8918]

The purpose of history is to learn from your ancestors, what they did well, what they didn't. Why do we keep getting colonised?

[@ahmosel4901]

I think ppl are just tired of seeing dark skinned blk women forced into the same roles by Hollywood: strong, Wakanda warriors tropes. Nothing more. Nothing soft, light-hearted or playful. The movies are always about struggling, hardships and death. We long to see ourselves outside of the slavery days. That's not all we are: children of slaves. Movies like the little mermaid show us that blk girls and women can be soft, and ethereal princesses, we can indulge in fantasy, and mermaids are based on African folklore so we should have been been had mermaid movies years ago. The happiness of blk girls for the new little mermaid movie goes to show you this portrayal is important and very much needed too.

[@missyaero]

You can have both. African society is matriarchal and that is something I've always been proud of and I hope we continue this way.

[@amenajackson8133]

Nothing wrong with making movies about what actually happened.

[@ahmosel4901]

@@amenajackson8133 if slave narratives is ALL we see then there is something wrong. We were royalty as well, we were the first doctors, scientists, Kush had the first university in the world, we had ancient arts and technology. The streets of African nations had lights well before the first streets of France were even paved. Moors ruled Spain for hundreds of years. Why isn't any of that ever showcased? They *actually* happened too. These negative "historical" movies traumatized and embarrassed me, my siblings and many other black kids i knew growing up. They're harmful without a proper balance of many positive stories about blk ppl. These films too often toe the line of being trauma porn.

[@amenajackson8133]

@@ahmosel4901 Go make those positive movies and stop whining. White people are going to make the movies they want to make.

[@nomsam4014]

What does soft mean? Black women are not white women. We dont have to behave like white women.. We don't have to look like white women....We are what we are. This soft narrative has to be reviewed because what it really means is 'mimic white women'!!! We are not men and can never be men, regardless of what people see or want to propagate. This white washed way of looking at things is sad because it really shows how enslaved We still are in our minds!!

[@chrisara]

Always on time!

[@mattsspelman1457]

5:04 - 5:11 Literally what you're trying to do in this video 🤣