women against women's rights

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[@fiona8627]

i genuinely believe that women with internalized misogyny is one of the saddest things

[@ShadowNinetales]

it's like watching one of those mentally ill cats that bites its own tail to shreds. it's really sad. hopefully some can achieve freedom from it. (the cats and the women)

[@emomsen1089]

*And* dangerous

[@BewilderedCitrus]

Agreed. Same goes with queer folk who have internalized homophobia/transphobia/queerphobia

[@Joey-td8rv]

this isn’t even internalized misogyny at this point, it’s externalized misogyny

[@keylanoslokj1806]

@@BewilderedCitrus you guys need jesus hard. The amount of confusion and brainwash in you is saddening

[@Wolf_Avatar]

Preventing skin cancer is anti-woman. Interesting take.

[@cycymaca]

Its the transformed wife, nothing she says makes sense😂😂

[@taco_queen5420]

Ah yes, women are meant to die of skin cancer.

[@ayame4536]

@lemonssssssss4 this is going to be a bit oversimplified, but your cells are supposed to split occasionally to make sure you body has new, health cells. A tumor happens when the cells don’t stop splitting. There’s two types of tumors benign and malignant. Benign is mostly harmless. Malignant tumors are the ones you get with cancer. These types of tumors will keep coming back after they are removed and cause harm to the body. Breast cancer means that the Brest cells are the ones with the tumors, Skin cancer means the skin cells are the ones with tumors, etc.

[@Adamant_Adam]

@lemonssssssss4 Cancer is a disease caused when cells divide uncontrollably and spread into surrounding tissues. Cancer cells are just body cells making the wrong thing in the wrong place. (Some cancers form teeth, hairs, nails, etc. in places it shouldn't. Don't google it.) You can get breast cancer and it can spread into your ribs and lungs. Some women have a gene that makes their offspring more likely to get cancer in the breasts. For a while women would remove their breasts to prevent breast cancer, but that would just force the cancer to appear in the ribs and lungs (harder to treat than in breast tissue.) My mother has breast cancer, so I know a little bit if you have any other questions.

[@iamtheaceupmysleeve1687]

**aggressively applies SPF in hell**

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

Women like this are why we should change “no uterus, no opinion” to “not your body, not your decision”

[@sista363]

This is actually real smart.

[@audreydoyle5268]

If you don't have the parts, you've got no say in their charts.

[@LoreCatan]

@@audreydoyle5268 that's pretty funny, I like this one.

[@quinnatron]

@@audreydoyle5268 that's pretty good-

[@audreydoyle5268]

@@quinnatron I will take no credit, I think it comes from an actual doctor of medicine. Either Dr Mike or Mama Doctor Jones. Or perhaps they heard it from someone else. Regardless, no uterus, no opinion, and if you don't have the parts, you've got no say in their charts, work somewhat well as slogans in the bid to end maternal slavery.

[@Goat.Cheese]

"Land owning males" was 100% a euphemism for "white guys" lol

[@KateeAngel]

Rich Land-owning Christian protestant white men. That is what she meant

[@KCH55]

Actually gets really confusing because technically if you live in a neighborhood with an HOA they sort of own your land and house, so yes they can kick you out (they can foreclosure on you) And then there's your own house but not but you don't have the land rights. So this would mean a lot of people don't actually own land. In many places it would basically become an authoritarian regime.

[@AmbroseArietes]

@@KateeAngel yes sis!!! it back to the 1780s!! /s (sarcasm) I obviously don’t support that mindset

[@lupe937]

@Nonaya Bidness no ofc not. But if you took any US specific history classes, you would know that the term “land owning men can vote” was first coined in the late 1700’s to 1800’s by the US government who was restricting voting rights against women and poc. The shorten term now used, had a lot more requirements but continuing the same sentiment of “only white, land owning, Protestant Christian males can vote”. Therefore it is more about the historical context than it being a statement about the current state of land ownership amongst races.

[@miaxandra198]

Tik tok did a deep dive on her a while back. She uses nazi dogwhistles in her lives, it’s a concerning situation.

[@amberb.6395]

My mom always put her boyfriends before us children. All three of us agreed that she’s on her own once we’re all 100% independent from her. We don’t invite her to get togethers anymore. She’s absolutely terrible. Never put your relationships before your children. I once had to starve for 3 days while she was staying at her boyfriends house and I didn’t have any money to buy food. She eventually went grocery shopping and I finally got food on the 4th day

[@CrystalSki67]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that :(

[@drbubblebutt7074]

That's awful, she was no mother

[@Itsemma05]

my mother is the same her and her boyfreind are on and off but she will leave while iim at my dads when i dont know and her boyfreind lives a few hour plane ride away yk but ive never had to starve and im so sorry

[@down-like-the-tower]

Yes, never do this. It’s absolutely terrible and I’m so sorry you had to go through that, I’m glad you had the courage to make such a necessary decision.

[@Rainy.help.me.]

For people that have moms like this may I offer some alternative names for these terrible excuses for mothers -X chromosome provider -parental failure (works for dads too) -9 months Amazon delivery (who neglects me until I’m 18 then begs for my resources)

[@maggiereid2865]

“Women can’t run the government because they’ll start too many wars because they’re emotional.” Not like all wars haven’t been started by men.😂😅

[@smanetagen4164]

thats because governments have been run by men duhh

[@iana6713]

Very true! As someone from the UK I do have to ask where Margaret Thatcher fitted into that? Mind you, her government went to war with large parts of the UK population!

[@kaitlyn3168]

It's like "All of history would like a word with you..." Have they not read any history books or even picked up on recent wars before?

[@smanetagen4164]

@@kaitlyn3168 Yall are actually so dumb 😂

[@bal9944]

Putin has entered the chat

[@atinyevil1383]

How are sunscreen and tampons "anti-women"? How are skin cancer and bleeding all over your clothes and furniture pro-women?

[@charlieandhisantics9954]

Because only women have blood. If a man wants to donate blood, the only thing that will come out of his veins is pure beer, because man. /j

[@missdarque]

Well, a tampon allows you freedom to do things.

[@ILHBM026]

@@missdarque eh I feel better with pads plus I can avoid that whole Shock thing but that’s just me

[@lauraflanagan9726]

My guess for tampons is that only your husband's penis should penetrate the vagina. For sunscreen, my guess is that you are supposed to let anything God made slowly kill you, and shouldn't use any chemicals (that God made) to prevent it.

[@Ledinn]

I think the tampon one is about "taking your virginity" (not that it does that, but yk)

[@elaexplorer]

That husband before the kids BS is why so many kids have to escape abusive households rather than their other parent protecting them from abuse.

[@abbymaddox7616]

Exactly they frame it as love but its about submission and puts the blame on women. It's why all conservative marriage advise towards women is mostly about submission or respect and act like men don't want love.

[@alisaurus4224]

I know someone whose mom said “i just birthed you, i CHOSE him” and kicked out her child when they reported years of sexual abuse from their dad. I knew her for years and never guessed she could abandon her own minor child in favor of the husband that abused the child.

[@carnystrickland4888]

@@alisaurus4224 that’s terrible, I hope she is healing now

[@splitlele]

It's literally how my boyfriend is raised. He was raised where his mom stands up for his dad, no matter how wrong his dad is. If mom says he can hang out with me, but dad says no, then mom changes her views and says no. His mom also has has wake his dad up for work and pack his lunch for him, because he TOTALLY isn't a grown ass able-bodied man who can literally take care of himself (I'm being sarcastic). And it's all conservative. So my boyfriend was raised as a conservative white cishet American loving male. Long story short, he found out that he was bi, and he started having lgbtq friends who were gender nonconforming. And now he is in a relationship with a multiracial pansexual demigirl. I always joke to my parents that I "liberaled" my boyfriend.

[@yasmineguerin2852]

@@splitlele Love this

[@rissa3163]

I feel sad for women like these, imagine growing up and being raised by parents who believe this

[@Tree-House69]

I was raised under parents like this and well, they sucked as both parents and partners. My dad was so abusive, since he's passed away it seems like everyone is at best apathetic or even celebratory, he always used being a man, a type of "boys will be boys" line of bs as an excuse for his behaviors, when he was straight up mentally ill and refused help on the premise of it being feminine.

[@lyyne_hope]

@@Tree-House69 i have literally the same situation as you, except my father didn't pass away and i have to wait until i move out...

[@LockLemon]

*cries in raised Mormon with strong fundamentalist umdertones*

[@splitlele]

No cap, I know this one girl, same age as me. We worked at a car wash together (she quit, and I'm about to quit because of college). She is a major tomboy. And she's against women's rights. Like she said we should live in a time where women didn't have any rights. She does realize she wouldn't be allowed to be a tomboy if women didn't have rights? She realizes she wouldn't be allowed to work at all? Women like that only want rights for themselves and not other women. It's so annoying. And she's most likely raised by parents who think this stuff and put that stuff in her head.

[@Romcomm_]

@@splitlele must be frustrating

[@kealiiamaoli]

she said “land owning males” because she couldn’t say christian and/or white i bet 😂

[@Faucetofstone]

100% that's what she meant.

[@elaexplorer]

Yep, it's a callback to slavery

[@Damngoodchicken_]

Oh you caught that? 😅

[@spencerhamilton8660]

well, if you listen to them there is an implication that they are submissive to men who are wealthy enough to afford a sahm and some kids. I doubt they would be this way without the implication of the one whomst they would be submissive to would be 'land owning males' as you say.

[@s.hristova7329]

But do they actually have a problem saying Christian and white? Because from what I know about trad wives, they would proudly proclaim to be Christian and white and that makes them better people. And if someone tries to say anything, they reply "I'm not racist or against other religions" yada yada while still holding on to their white Christian supremacist ideas.

[@Sabinefundel]

I read, that she got a "baby girl" and I feel so fucking sorry for that little girl.

[@nonamesorry7135]

That child is gonna grow up to be so mentally broken down it's really fucking sad. Generational trauma fucking sucks.

[@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880]

Can you imagine the reaction of that woman when she finds out that her daughter stopped talking or cut contact with her mother the minute she turns 18?

[@BeanBeanMcBean3000]

@@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880 Yh I hope she rebels

[@amore9003]

SAAAMMMEEE rebel little girl rebel!

[@West_Coast_Gang]

Fr (french Revolution)

[@Tree-House69]

"Your husband is the ultimate child" - the essence of what half of them are saying

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

I mean...he's likely the last one to move out 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@hon_eybearrr6557]

As a christian feminist, I despise when people take the "submit to your husband" verse out of context. that verse includes a lot of information about the husband also submitting, and most misogynists take it as an excuse to be sexist. It's really sad.

[@dilucragnvindr1586]

This is something i wish more nonchristians (and frankly Christians themselves too) understood

[@haldanandpako2755]

Yeah

[@xxdestiny4682]

Thank you! Someone who actually took the time and read the part of the Bible where it talks about marriage and submission!

[@thegoblinking.]

My mom and her ex sat me down for an "intervention" of sorts because i was very against their whole out of context wife submitting to thier husbands ideals. They were saying things like i need to submit and let him lead or whatever while also saying its an equal partnership. I was so completely confused because when someone's leading it can't really be an equal partnership. For context, my mom's ex was a horrible abusive man who absolutely tried to control my mom with an iron fist. So uhh after seeing that I was very much against it. Also im a trans guy so none of this applies to me anyways. The woman submitting to her husband is such an awful misinterpretation.

[@C0WB0YKING]

@@thegoblinking. Hai fellow trans person just remember ur not alone in a very conservative traditional household!! My mother is not christian but does hold very… concerning ideals and i understand what you’re going through;;;

[@jjj__2034]

I wish we could just go back to the good old days where women got skin cancer instead of smearing white cream on themselves so they wouldn't get a disease that could potentially kill them.

[@charlieandhisantics9954]

I know right, I miss the days when we all got polio and died.

[@Misora7303]

@@charlieandhisantics9954 Those days did keep us near to the lord

[@tabathaarria9558]

@@Misora7303 i-... you got a point there 🤔

[@chrizzlybear5565]

Can't get skin cancer, if you never leave the kitchen, I guess 🤔

[@splitlele]

Ok off topic but I love your name and picture, I'm a huge mcr fan. But seriously imagine saying that something that keeps women ALIVE is anti-women. Lori Alexander is the definition of anti-women.

[@chaoscat1446]

I never understood people who say they wish they lived in the 1950s, cuz what they know is a romanticised version of the 50s. if they actually went back in time and spent a day in the 50s they'd see how awful it was

[@ShadowNinetales]

Oh, absolutely. For another example, I love all that nerdy Lord of the Rings, Legend of Zelda and Dungeons & Dragons type stuff, but I am also a history student and fully understand that living in real-life medieval times was seldom beautiful and cool and romantic, even for posh folk. It was spectacularly smelly and shite, and anyone born female had an especially crap time of it in many ways. As an autistic and somewhat sensitive and low-energy person, and a progressively-raised only child who especially cherishes personal space and freedom, I would have absolutely lost my mind in such a society, probably before even approaching adulthood. Regardless of all their faults thus far, the 2020s are a mercifully safe place, here in the Scottish countryside anyway, for someone like me. I like some vintage several-decades-ago type stuff too, think cottagecore and farmcore kind of vibes, the atmosphere of games like Harvest Moon and such, traditional cooking and gardening and reading at the nostalgic countryside grandma's cottage, but there are also definitely plenty of trends and ideas from back then that belong deep in the trash can of history. And even my gran is very forward-thinking and accepting, so being old is no excuse to be bigoted lol.

[@laurafionarhiannon1205]

Oh yeah, the ugly brown furniture made from asbestos, everything else made from asbestos. Pyjamas that caught fire when they got too hot, furniture that would combust and burn the house down when it got too hot. Rampant spousal abuse and child abuse, unmitigated bullying in schools, because boys should be stronger and women shouldnt be wierd....then wait theres even more 📃📃📃📃

[@melo8049]

The 50’s were horrible Cold War started and only getting hotter Korean War People of color didn’t have rights You couldn’t marry someone of another race Only good it seems was Elvis, and even he wanted to change a lot of the 50’s

[@lothcatskilledthesith6903]

Keep the misogyny, racism, and food out of my Pleasentvile fantasy. I only want the cars, fashion, home decor and buying power of the dollar. (Okay, I like a few Jello salads, I admit)

[@Chiller-pc1dv]

Like yeah the aesthetics were kinda cool, the fashion and decorations and old timey items, the food, things being less expensive, that kinda thing was cool....but they ain't soo cool when you're living in a world where women are treated like property, where racism is far more rampant than it is today and was really socially acceptable, like cross burnings, lynchings, and I also heard it was SUPER conformist, everyone had to conform, and life was boring.

[@liizaa.hanson1245]

My father, born in 1944, who turned 78 this month: “IF YOU’RE GONNA HAVE SEX WHILE TRAVELLING TO THE STATES, HAVE SEX W/WOMEN! YOU CAN’T GET PREGNANT BY ANOTHER WOMAN” 😂😂😂

[@hoeasy127]

But you actually can though-

[@Mae_Dastardly]

Not with that attitude ya cant!

[@Chiller-pc1dv]

Unless she's trans.

[@NormallyImKim]

@@Chiller-pc1dv Trans woman on hormones. If she hasn't taken hormones...

[@ggundercover3681]

@@hoeasy127 not unless they trans. otherwise you good.

[@fu9199]

I am ashamed to say it but I use to be just like this. I was a conservative christian man raising my family with conservative christian values. I use to tell my kids that If they were all drowning that I would save their mother, my wife over them. Long story short I had a crisis of faith and have since moved away from christianity. For the last few years I have encouraged my wife and children to become who they feel they are without my influence. I am happy to say that all of my kids are finding their own spiritual path, some are pagan, ashiest, or other. My wife is divorcing me and living her own life. While I am not happy about it I am happy for them. I honestly believe that everything will work out for the better.

[@xlown8561]

I hope ur doing well It's good u changed for the better

[@charlieandhisantics9954]

I'm so glad you changed. I wish the best for you and your family, you did the right thing.

[@fu9199]

It’s been difficult but everyday I become a better person. The real heroes here’s are my soon to be ex-wife, 3 daughters and 1 transgender son that were able to rise up despite of my oppression and become the people they are inside.

[@darkmillennia6508]

I truly appreciate what you’ve done, finally coming around and realised your wrong ways. I hope you and your family can heal overtime and find out what brings you joy in life.

[@djreems8813]

people like you restore my hope that anyone can change for the better. these changes are so hard to make. i hope life works out for you too, good luck to you and your family :)

[@ozge8262]

Back when women were men's property, most of them would mostly be forced to stay in the house and not go outside. These people think it's a free vacation, when in reality it was imprisonment.

[@rhokesh4391]

Quarantine on steroids? Actually, that's a good question to ask a tradwife- how did she like being quarantined?

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

@@rhokesh4391 Maybe that explains why the Karens were so bent up about the lockdowns 🤔

[@rhokesh4391]

@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos Well, that's the thing though, isn't it? They should have been happy that they got to stay home all day- after all, that's what they're telling the world they want 🤷‍♀

[@alienatedlibrarian5017]

I literally wrote a short story where the main character is criminally neglected because her parents spend all their time being too in love. I liked the idea because it was so counterintuitive and something I thought probably wouldn't happen in real life. So from my pov This woman is forreal bringing up a subversive villain trope as parenting advice. She's a bad guy I wrote in a sad sad fairy tale. My brain is fully stuck on this omg

[@taliablack4080]

That sounds really cool! It reminds me a lot of The Willowbys movie on Netflix.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

That’s a really interesting concept!!

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

@@taliablack4080 Was just gonna mention that :D For real though, imagine coming up with a messed up idea only to realize some people do that and there's movies about it and your "weird idea" is much more prominent than you've realized

[@ananousous]

Life imitates art. You are to blame for this

[@ayeshabaugh6620]

That’s a good idea! There’s a character in exactly that situation in an old adult cartoon called Moral Orel, the kid’s parents only married to have sex (because Christianity) and they’re constantly going on dates and literally pay their kid to never come home, and the kid gets jealous of other people’s family lives. It’s really sad. That’s the only example I’ve seen of that happening in entertainment

[@anarchistangel2314]

"I'll give you the 9 to 5, that's a war on everyone, fuck work" took the words right out of my mouth lmao

[@anarchistangel2314]

@Naikomi for those that have an actual profession that they actually chose to go into, sure. For people working shit service jobs or bullshit office jobs for a pitiful paycheck to barely scrape by, like most people, not so much.

[@anarchistangel2314]

@Naikomi ah. Well good for your country then, if that's true. Unfortunately i am American and I'm speaking to the sorry state of work in my own country. Should've specified that i guess

[@anarchistangel2314]

@Naikomi yeah believe me I'm painfully aware of this

[@susiescollections]

if she’s against women voting… would she vote to make that happen?

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

Here's hoping she realizes that she can just stop voting whenever she'd like 🤞🏻

[@Faucetofstone]

In strange eons' newest vid, commenters pointed out that a lot of "trad wife" is just like a kink they've twisted into an ideology. Also a lot of them are edgy trolls who just think hating all progress is a personality trait.

[@paranoidrodent]

There are actual recognized varieties of kink D/s (Head of the Household and Domestic Discipline) that are pretty much just self-aware tradwife relationships where the couple is self-aware about how they get off on it (and usually have BDSM style safety rules in place... but the line between the wannabe 50s couple D/s and tradwifers is really blurry for some folks).

[@Faucetofstone]

@@paranoidrodent I recall one commenter saying that on Tumblr the kink side made memes that Trad Wifers basically stole and used unironically (I can't think of a better term I'm aware a kink is not ironic in nature)

[@paranoidrodent]

@@Faucetofstone I can easily believe that. I've seen other kink memes get borrowed by vanilla folks before and it's usually self-righteous types who take things very literally.

[@Acidfunkish]

The neckbeards who fantasise about tradwives are dudes who trad women wouldn't want to have to see, never mind occupy the same space. Definitely not date. They wouldn't get anywhere NEAR marriage. Neckbeards... You understand that your tradwife would make you bathe regularly, right? She wouldn't allow you to watch pr0n. She definitely wouldn't allow you to do anything beside baby-making. And, since you definitely couldn't handle feeding your animals every day (and assisting cows giving birth is pure joy - ever been elbow deep, trying to pull a calf out?), never mind hunting, trapping, and fishing, nor know how to build a log cabin with your bare hands (be honest, can you even chop wood?)... You literally have nothing to offer a good tradwife. Because, y'know, a tradwife generally wants a tradhusband. But sure, good luck.

[@j.c.2240]

It's like they took a how to guide to being a sub, ripped out the chapters on safety and consent, and then followed what was left

[@babyjeebies9871]

Still convinced that a lot of these women are just service submissives. They put so much emphasis on submission and obedience and discipline and it's just so clear that they really want a domestic d/s relationship they just associate that interest with their gender. They think that because submission makes them feel fulfilled that it's that way for all women. It's so frustrating I just want to see them learn about healthy power exchange and get into a healthy relationship with someone who can meet their needs while still respecting them and their boundries instead of some random dude that thinks women are less than and he can do what he wants to them with no regard for if that's what she wants.

[@DeathnoteBB]

Idk I’m convinced they just want to control all other women. They’re preaching women should have no rights and never be listened to, yet sure seem to enjoy having rights and being listened to. Almost like they want this to apply to everyone but them

[@mightymeatymech]

@@DeathnoteBB I think you're both correct, and that they're not all the same person doing it for the same reasons I agree with OP because seriously, a healthy sub/Dom relationship could really put some of these women at ease, if they could accept that they derive pleasure from being submissive (rather than copping out and saying they do it because god says so). But you're also right. Many women will utilize misogyny against other women as a fun power game.

[@ShadowNinetales]

Exactly. Screw enforced gender stereotypes, I'm a slightly butch woman and I want a sweet, playfully submissive pretty-boy who's emotionally expressive and adorably excited to be with me lol. And I would buy him flowers and nice blingy things and all the pampering stuff, and he would be my cute special guy. 💖 (Too bad all the people I catch feelings for end up being fake-nice, completely unhinged pieces of work...being chronically single sucks)

[@Miipmiip]

I hope they learn about like, kinks or whatever and they’ll be able to find someone who dominates them. Like actually I feel like that would solve things for some of these women

[@bloodyrose1995]

This is what I think every time I see women like this. I always want to tell them… honey, there are ways to have this kink without losing your rights as a human or wanting to take rights away from others.

[@tokyobateman6610]

I love how all these women are 100% *certain* that they’re children will become adults that have the exact same views as them…

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

And when they inevitably don't and instead end up despising them and their cult they will blame the "librul" public school system.

[@t-dude352]

@@sherlocksmuuug6692 people hate taking the blame

[@ManiacalBlueberry]

Well...... They might, that's likely where these women got THEIR views from.

[@katerinastoeva]

Chances are they can be a polar opposite and perhaps will cut contact with them :D serves them well tho

[@ggundercover3681]

@@ManiacalBlueberry I feel over time children have a 49/49 percent chance of being like or nothing like their parents. the 2% is being a slight mix or neutral stance. certain things tho I just never see children not take a hard opposite or exact pathway as their parents

[@SteMegManzaroli]

I would hope that what that woman was saying is “when you have kids be careful to keep the relationship with your husband healthy and alive, because sometimes everything starts to revolve around your children and you could lose the bonding with your partner” not “neglect your kids because your husband isn’t capable of being a functioning adult” but from a tradwife I don’t know what I can expect 🤷‍♀️

[@alicine-sims8988]

Yeah, I didn't get the "neglect your kids so you can take care of your man child husband." At all. Just thought she was talking about making sure to prioritize your relationship sometimes, set aside date nights, or stay in and spend time together just the two of you. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching your children, when they are old enough, some boundaries so mom and dad can have some alone time. Learning how boundaries work is an important part of a child's development, and you are still aloud to have boundaries as an adult. Maybe if her other videos are bad then she does mean physically take care of him, but if this is it, I think it's being taken wildly out of context.

[@jadecoolness101]

I'll never understand this whole "competition" that parents have. You chose to have kids, and then feel upset when your relationship has to change to give focus to the kids you CHOSE TO CREATE? If your husband feels "neglected" because you give your kid their plate of food first at dinner, he has his own problems to work through.

[@marslopyge]

She literally said “your kids can wait” like what? Wait for food they can’t provided themselves while your husband has the full capability to cook??? She could be trying to get that option across but she need way better wording for even a hint of it 😭.

[@ArtificialSuicid]

The other day I overheard a conversation between a colleague and her friends. She said "I don't like women", and her friends looked at her like "Okay...?" They thought she meant she wasn't queer, but she said "No, no, I just don't like women in general. I think showing appreciation to women is not the way to go" Her friends were fucking confused and so was I. How can you possible say you don't like "women in general" when YOU'RE A WOMAN??? This conversation lives rent free I my head, unfortunately, cause of how shocked I was.

[@91clarie]

It's more common than you think. I have met several girls and women throughout my life who have proudly claimed to only have guy friends because "women are bitchy and dramatic" 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@blueweirdo719]

Yeah it’s honestly just sad

[@blueweirdo719]

Not only sad but harmful

[@onelovelylilidiot4959]

Internalised misogyny✨

[@Errenyaegerrr]

In all fairness maybe she just doesnt, if you look at men I'm sure you see why men could easily dislike other men, it's the same with you guys, some things you find normal or okay other women absolutely hate , but if it was just a unprovoked statement then idi

[@lk6lu12]

Every woman who says they wished they were born in the 50s should watch “Call the Midwife”.

[@iana6713]

Yes! Well said.

[@aaasht2606]

Some will be into it n make it worse thinking what they dg its what every single woman digs. Thats the issue with these people thinking if their ship floats it gotta float for everyone

[@lk6lu12]

My point is the main characters are largely progressive. They cheer advancements especially vaccines. In cases of abuse they always side with the woman not the man.

[@cedar.twig.4]

yes. absolutely yes.

[@_Rosa7524]

If they don't believe their own opinion to be valuable enough for something as basic as voting why should I care about their opinion that their opinion isn't valuable enough to vote?

[@cohlinegarnet8313]

PREACH

[@manofmagic1803]

How it should be is: that people are just people, no matter their gender race, or sexual orientation. Gender roles shouldn't be enforced upon people. People should wear what they want clothes are clothes. Your religion is not everyone's and shouldn't be forced onto other people due to your views nor should you force your kids to believe in what you do. Don't use religion as an excuse to discriminate against someone else. Everyone should be allowed to vote. Everyone has a right to health care (abortion and birth control included its healthcare duh). If you're in a relationship sex isn't a requirement, and buying food for someone and demanding sex for it and not paying if you don't get sex is very entitled and it's disgusting. Either be nice and pay for the food or don't. Don't think that you should get something if you do something. A relationship should be mutual understanding with consent if they don't want to have sex don't force them or guilt trip them into it. just because you both are in a relationship doesn't mean you cant assault them, you can.

[@plague9774]

I WISH the world was like this. No gender roles, people minding their business, good health care and sex not being forced?? Sounds amazing! Cuz I’m personally in a non-sexual relationship. Alas, it is romantic! Y’know, cuddles, kisses etc. And just, people think we are gonna bang or something, when we don’t want to like, at all,, we’re graysexual,, and see person on person sexual pleasure as gross or just “eh”. But soooo many people want us to have kids(context, I’m a trans man and my partner is biological male but uses any pronouns) anyway, point being, I wish the world was like this! (; w;)

[@charlieandhisantics9954]

Please run for office, I'd vote for you if I was of age

[@zoey398]

i think you switched can and can't on the last bit edit: nvm i misread it, marital 🍇 does indeed exist and often isn't even acknowledged

[@passionate_possum_pal]

@@zoey398 I think they meant things like marital 🍇

[@ferninthehouse]

@@zoey398 no, its right. theyre saying just because youre married doesnt mean you cant assault them. its still possible. people like the transformed wife say that the women "owes" the man her body and that marital rape doesnt exist

[@ariwillis4845]

Weird fact regarding women being “dramatic” and “over emotional”: In the US, men are slightly more likely to get and die of heart attacks, but they are more often fatal in women. There are biological factors that contribute to this, of course, but another oft-cited reason is that women are less likely to tell people when they begin to experience symptoms. They don’t want to seem dramatic, and they literally die because of it.

[@arklestudios]

Goats are naturally herd animals (I think I used the right phrase there), so only owning one is effectively animal abuse. You need to have at least two. In some countrys it's straight up illegal to buy a single animal like that as a pet; goats, guinea pigs, etc.

[@jadecoolness101]

It really shouldn't be ILLEGAL tbh. What if I have two guinea pigs or goats, and one dies? I cannot afford three, I can only afford two. I need ONE more to have two and not be abus1ve. If you can prove that you already have at least one, you should be able to buy one.

[@arklestudios]

​@@jadecoolness101 Not living in countries with those rules, I can't say. I would hope they take such things into consideration.

[@dinodare1605]

If you can't afford proper husbandry then you shouldn't have the pet. I don't even think you get a dog if you couldn't afford an emergency vet visit, and I've seen the damage that can do to the dog. If any animal requires another animal to live comfortably, you shouldn't get them single.

[@a-bird-lover]

it's also just kinda dumb just bc goat milk _really_ isn't a good substitute for human milk or even formula, it's better than cow milk but still not great. Better than starving so goat milk has been used for a long _long_ time as a substitute, but babies will frequently run into health issues, and formula Exists for this very problem

[@electronics-girl]

@@a-bird-lover Or just get a transwoman to lactate for you. I'm half serious, because I would love to experience that part of womanhood, but I doubt I am going to have kids of my own.

[@macelikesstars]

i support womens rights, but most importantly, i support womens wrongs. 😌😌 /j edit: IM SO SORRY FOR NOT USING TONE TAGS I WAS JOKING LMAOOO

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

I support women's rights and also women's lefts. As well as fronts, backs, ups and downs. Support your local women no matter their orientation :)

[@No-uf8xp]

Absolutely I second these

[@charlieandhisantics9954]

That would make a really good slogan

[@MohammedAli-hl4mr]

@@HotDogTimeMachine385 or direction

[@user-leavemealone]

We give women lefts and rights.

[@Silvery_jade]

Ngl, I really like the 50's "aesthetic" I guess you could call it?? Like I love the way that women used to dress and the way they did their makeup. But it's just that, the aesthetic, the looks, not the actual culture of the time.

[@Turquerina]

Historical garments are so cool! This way, we can practice sustainable fashion and not have to worry about modern clothing being too much or little for the weather. Additionally, architecture and art was really great back then too, and just the aesthetic and function of those were useful. #VintageStyleNotVintageValues

[@passionate_possum_pal]

Yeah! Like I'm all for crisp pinstriped suits and a nice pair of loafers, or the neat dresses and hair and ascots and scarves. '50s attire, not 50s anything else.

[@iamobsessedwithshadowsight]

SAME, I love their hairstyles and clothes and the way things were decorated (50s diners forever have my heart) but the actual values and culture of the time should definitely be left in the past 💀💀

[@kcufyoutube3103]

Vintage fashion not vintage values.

[@Sojo214]

I would assume the worlds of the fallout games are right up everyone's alley?

[@DeathnoteBB]

3:44 I’m surprised you didn’t mention “expectations for stuff was low back then” Because like, LOW? Her grandma cooked, cleaned, sewed, took care of the kids, and more, and she wants to claim expectations were LOW?

[@tab4account128]

Expectations for MEN were low.Which tbh compared to women still are

[@melodye14]

I figured part of what she meant was economic, but she unsurprisingly skips completely over the fact that the economy is completely different now. Things cost less than, incomes stretched farther, etc.

[@amandappg822]

I think she means the expectation of a woman also having a full-time job since most families have to have two providers now to afford things

[@merpetuality5552]

Saying only "land owning men" can vote is actually right from slavery 💀 atleast in the British Caribbean the law was just that and ot was meant to stop even freed black people from voting because owning land was impossible

[@ravenwolfkittyface1802]

THERE IT IS.

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

You mean. To tell me. That a sh!tty right-wing political take. In these United States. Has roots. In RACISM???

[@PolinaLee94]

There's an interesting interview where a guy who left 2 families explained his reasons. The main reason was "my exwife gave too much attention and care to our children and not enough to me". He refuses to pay alimony by the way, because "she wants too much, caring for kids doesn't really cost that much".

[@droc5427]

Spoken like a man who's never been involved with his family lol

[@bunnycrofts8127]

Wasn't that the guy who fathered 150 kids? And neglected all his wives and all his children? If not, he has a similar story.

[@PolinaLee94]

@@bunnycrofts8127 , no, just 3 i think.

[@lunalovegood8931]

I have experience with the “your souse should come first” way of parenting. My grandparents raised my dad like that, it was pretty emotionally neglectful and I’m still angry at both of them for it. But because of this, and the fact he was never put first, my dad had this expectation when he got married his wife would do everything for him, but my mum wouldn’t do that- and this expectation combined with basically being neglected during his childhood and some other stuff led to problems in their relationship and him resenting me and my sister for my mum “putting us before him”. My dad is by no means a bad person, but I still have a pretty rocky relationship with him to this day. So not only does that method of parenting deeply effect your children, it also effects your childrens children.

[@AaronHendu]

He sounds kind of shitty to me...

[@l.810]

She’s so delusional. Like imagining romanticizing and glamorizing literally not having rights. The fact that people like this actually exist, makes me lose even more hope for humanity. And even more, why does she feel the need to effect everyone with her beliefs? Like if you don’t want to vote or make money, go ahead, it’s your choice. But everyone around you doesnt have to do the same thing. Also, last time I checked, twitter wasn’t around in the 1950’s

[@bal9944]

I would love to see her living in an Islamic third world country... That little bitc* would probably change her idea

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

They're jusy trying to institutionalize their d/s kink (credit to STRANGE AEONS for that observation). What's kinkier than being lesser than your dom? Everyone that reminds you of yourself being lesser than your dom.

[@madeline5493]

The women who say “wouldn’t you want to be a housewife instead of working” 1000% vote against social welfare that would make it possible 🙄

[@erinrising2799]

7:30 this woman doesn't even know what period products were like in the 50's, that alone should make one grateful to live in the 21st century

[@hoeasy127]

Hey, Could you not call period products “feminine hygiene products”? They’re not feminine lol. People that aren’t women use them, and alot of women don’t use them, plus it’s not like all women are feminine. Just call them their actual name.

[@erinrising2799]

@@hoeasy127 edited, but they've said that on the packaging my whole life, so that's what I default to when I'm not describing a specific item (i.e. pads/tampons)

[@erinrising2799]

@The Arrogant Writer there was an elastic belt with a hook in the front and one in the back. The you would hook the pad onto the belt (it didn't adhere to the panties like modern pads) Giving you a pad wedgie all day long. And for clarification, I am not from the 50's, however I had a surgery in the 90's and when my period started that contraption is what they busted out. And my mom told me it was just like they had in the 50's

[@Nick-iv3yb]

"There are women on social media who claim they are 'Christians' but-blah blah blah blah blah- *Don't learn from them. They are in rebellion of god* " Yeah and god also says don't judge people

[@jackriver8385]

I used to be like these women, I thought feminism had made it so that it's impossible to be a housewife, because now women are always expected to work even when they want to stay home and take care of their kids. but I now realise that's because of capitalism, and the fact that full time parenting isn't seen as a job even though parents are at work 24/7. it does suck to live under capitalism and that's not feminism's fault. also I'm a trans guy now and a full time single parent so he/him pronouns pls

[@getoffmychannel61]

Hey I'm the exact same way (used to be like this, now a gemderfluid he/they) so now hearing the words of these women I can understand their perspectives and it's quite sad hearing it from all these women because they don't even realize what they're saying is harmful to them

[@0XBlondie96X0]

To be fair, being a parent isn't something you go into with the sole expectation of being monetarily compensated for it. If you do then you're having kids for the wrong ass reasons. I don't think it's necessarily impossible to be a housewife, it's just that you need a partner that makes enough money to support you and any kids you have, which is much more difficult to pull off in this day and age.

[@anti-usernamesaltaccount3623]

Working from home/being a stay-at-home parent is the ultimate dream.

[@zeineb8870]

❤️🌈

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

👑 🤲🏻 You dropped this, M'lord.

[@Lesbiansawtrap]

the problem with the last one, even though it's correct in that capitalism has brainwashed us, is that doing all those things should be a viable option (for everyone not just women) while also maintaining some level of financial independence. Because what if you're enjoying this lifestyle where your husband provides for you and one day, the relationship turns bad, or worse abusive? You now have no money of your own and its much harder to get out of that situation. But of course from the tradwife perspective your husband is always right and you should just stick it out anyway.

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

Or your husband dies or becomes unable to work for whatever reason?

[@Lesbiansawtrap]

@@Purplesquigglystripe very true! if they become disabled and can’t provide does that make them a bad husband in these womens eyes? it’s clearly an unsustainable situation for most people especially with how expensive it is to exist these days

[@sarventesantorno3843]

@@Lesbiansawtrap I do agree with this... Now a relationship is supposed to be a 50/50, but once you start a family it's different. It's still going to be a 50/50 but you as well need to balance work and taking care of children (for whichever parent decides to take care of the kiddies as well) Though, it's also very important that you should keep an eye on your spouse because if they one day can't function right for whatever reason or get really sick, you need to take care of them, so they can get better, take care of yourself so you can function properly enough to take care of the children. And that part its what most people don't understand, you can't just be killing yourself to take care of everyone. There has to be a balance in everything, it can't be just one or the other.

[@CyberWarezz05]

My mom did a lot of mistakes as a parent, however I am grateful that she tought me to work so that I can never depend on a man for money.She used to say "If I don't work I'd have to depend on my man and ask him for tampons, and that is degrading AF"

[@noname-ur4gr]

This year I got the worst sunburn in my life and wasn't able to sleep because of the pain. Thanks, give me all sunscreen you have. Also, I knew a "nice guy" (literally told me that it's unfair that I've slept with another person but not him... and he's once said some things which were harmful to me and when I told him that he makes me want to SH, he just changed the topic to my body?) whose mom pre-cooked meals for a whole week for him when his parents went somewhere for a week while I was like "What? You're 19, I cooked for myself since I was 13, you're old enough to take care of yourself for a week" and I just thought about how his future gf will likely have to feed him because why don't parents teach their children how to survive on their own... Oh, and I recently found out about the "carnivore diet" where they pretty much only eat meat and animal products. There's a woman who claims that it helped with her lupus symptoms I think? Also, completely unrelated but I found vegan cabanossi in Poland and I feel the need to share that with anyone willing to listen because they're one of the greatest things I've discovered this year along with liquorice ice cream 😅

[@charlieandhisantics9954]

The carnivore diet just sounds like speedrunning trying to get scurvy.

[@amberb.6395]

Oh I’ve done that before too with a horrible sunburn. You never forget it honestly. Mine was the summer of 2018. I looked almost the same shade as a fire hydrant. I had to put pillows on either side of me and lay on my back (that’s the side that hurt the least). I dumped slimy aloe Vera alllllll over me for like 2 weeks straight. The first 2 nights, I barely got any sleep. Now I actually put on sunscreen so I don’t feel pain like that again. Curse my paleness!! Even 5 minutes in the sun burns me

[@noname-ur4gr]

@@amberb.6395 That sounds terrible! Unfortunately I can't rlly lay on my back for a long time or my back starts hurting 😅 Anyway, my skin has been peeling off for over a month 🥲

[@noname-ur4gr]

@BellaRose 🐳⭐️ As I said, I'm in Poland (just a reminder, since I don't know where you're located 😅). I've found them at Biedronka (in the same section as the meat ones). But I also googled and for example in Germany, there are online shops that sell those. :) They're called "rośl-INNE kabanosy" from the brand Tarczyński 😊 And I think that liquid ice cream is also tasty 😂 But yes, liquorice ice cream is too, unfortunately I've only been able to find it in Sweden so far 🥲

[@Sojo214]

@@amberb.6395 One of those sunburns where you go around T-Posing everywhere to not touch any skin. Its goofy in hindsight, but a good lesson in proper skincare! Thanks, younger, dumber me!

[@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880]

I feel sad for these women who think that other women (including themselves) shouldn't have rights of any kind (I.E: voting, pursuing an education, having a credit card with your name on it, owning private property, etc.) There are women in countries that are affected by war, poverty, violence of any kind, dictatorships, economic problems and strict religious beliefs that would give everything to have these rights that these women in Tiktok don't want.

[@asherthedisaster4724]

show your kids what a healthy relationship is by having one with them

[@Hip.Username]

look if you know you're having a baby you'd better have a just in case spot for a goat. if you remove all of the tampons and cosmetics and sunscreen in your house you'll have room for your goat, it's just that simple 💁‍♀

[@joemama-zm4de]

me omw to build the 'break in case of emergency' goat cabinet in my kitchen

[@ezmeraldaedjner66]

i dont own any tampoons or cosmetics and i really doubt a goat can fit in the space my one (1) bottle of sunscreen takes up

[@Hip.Username]

@@ezmeraldaedjner66 girl not you really thinking I'm telling people how to make room for a goat in their homes 😅 it was a joke no one has that many tampons, sunscreen or cosmetics i don't think

[@XxLostFinalGirlxX]

Sunscreen is anti woman? Ok tell that to all the dermatologist that recommended it.. Imagine being a dermatologist and being told that you're a bad person who is going against god because you recommended sunscreen to women. What about boys and men? They wear it too are they bad men and boys for wearing it too? Can't imagine her thoughts on skin products that help with acne.. I have terrible acne issues and I don't need some rando to tell me I'm going against god because I'm getting help with acne.. like "if god wanted you to have clear skin he wouldn't have given you acne and you're going against his wishes for trying to clear your skin" I also have a tattoo of my dogs paw and name on my wrist so I'm just waiting for the "if god wanted you to have tattoos he would have given them to you when you were born"

[@arklestudios]

Apparently it's been a thing for the crunchy wine mom Goop crowd to claim that sunscreen blocks vitamin D and makes you depressed, or some pseudoscience bullshit like that. I'm actually glad I only recall a few of the details of that nonsense.

[@SuperUmizoomi]

Its more like "you wouldn't have acne if you lost weight"

[@spongebobonmolly]

i guess they think its “gods will” if you get skin cancer and it’s wrong to go against that

[@XxLostFinalGirlxX]

@@SuperUmizoomi skinny people get acne too! Stop saying only fat people get acne because that makes you sound like a bad person but wait in this day and age being mean to fat people is a good thing.. making people self conscious is a good thing.. I forgot I apologize 🙄

[@XxLostFinalGirlxX]

@@spongebobonmolly well it must also be "gods will" when a person makes a disabled person.. we could call him ableist but that's offensive to both disabled people and Christians..

[@elaexplorer]

The funniest part to me about my grandmother did without all these modern conveniences and was just fine. Um, all the modern conveniences were invented to make her life easier. If she were to ask her grandmother if she'd rather be hunched over the wash bucket or use a washing machine,she'd choose the washing machine. And her grandmother's youth wasn't that long ago so if her grandmother was doing all that it's very likely they were pretty poor.

[@Maglors_grief]

My grandmother grew up in poverty with 11 siblings and talks often about all the hard labor they would have to do, including washing their clothes in a wash bucket. And to this day she still says that she thinks the washing machine was the greatest invention ever and how she would not want to go back to using a wash bucket.

[@rhokesh4391]

My great-grandmother, born in 1912, had to wash clothes in a frozen-over river in winter. I'd love to see Madam Transformed Wife do that. Just once.

[@elenafriese891]

Yeah Like, agreed on everything but _especially_ the washing. Some of the "old ways" would probably be legit fun to reinact or just as skills to pick up for a disaster, but longing for the days of washing your clothes by hand? Just... No. I've seen rundowns of what that involved and that's a no from me.

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

It's no accident that her grandmother's generation popularized the washing machine.

[@wetsockfullofhotmeat]

Fun fact, the man who invented the spin cycle washing machine made it SPECIFICALLY so women didn't have to slave over wash buckets. Choosing to do things the hardest way possible isn't admirable, it's just stupid

[@abenagyampo]

Does that one woman not know that a lot of people who grew up in bad homes had mothers who constantly put men before them…?

[@notarobot1231]

She listed fake nails. I just finished painting my fake nails. Ladies for every ludicrous claim she makes let’s use one of the items on that list if we team up against her she can’t win ( sorry for spelling mistakes hard to type with long fake nails)

[@melo8049]

Common fake nails W

[@ciitrus111]

And on top of that fake nails originated in African culture…so she honestly pulls off the delusional white woman from the 50’s style pretty good🤭🫣

[@houtaru90]

I have a cousin who was put into foster care for awhile because his dad shook him as a baby and his mom refused to make the dad move out when court ordered that he wasn't allowed to live with the children. That's the kind of shit that happens when you put your spouse first

[@zoeishahaha]

“But oh dear, she was actually made to be alive in 2021 and it’s absolutely devastating, because in 2021 women have rights.” *Jack Stauber - Buttercup plays*

[@lauraflanagan9726]

(From an American viewer) Well I guess that one woman wanting to live in the 1950s is getting her prayers granted.

[@blueweirdo719]

No let’s not have that happened 😭 ITLL COME BACK DONT WORRY IT NOT THE END!!!!

[@ShadowNinetales]

To be fair on the trad wife, as crazy as she is regarding most things, she has a partial point about high heels, they are heinously uncomfortable and they gradually bend the wearer's feet into a shape that's not super healthy for them. Though I have dyspraxia, so my muscle and balance issues make high heels especially intolerable for me. Some folks with stronger ankles might do just fine in them, which is cool as long as it's not being pushed on them as a societal beauty obligation. Same with makeup and any other cosmetic stuff, it's great as long as people don't take issue with women who don't want to wear it, and different places will have different cultural tendencies about this I guess. But yeah, these items can absolutely exist without them being automatically anti-woman lol.

[@s.hristova7329]

You have a point, wearing heals all the time is not good for people. Although, if women start dressing comfortably or god forbid, in a more masculine way because they like it, then they are "going against god and their husbands by not being feminine". You really cannot win with these people.

[@ShadowNinetales]

​@@s.hristova7329 Very true lol. It would be kinda funny to watch two of these obnoxiously strict religious folk have a preaching argument, insisting that "God demands" two completely opposite things. Probably two opposite yet equally wrong things in how extreme they are, such as "women must always wear heels and makeup" versus "women must never wear heels and makeup". 😂 Instead of talking to a brick wall, you get to see two brick walls fight.

[@Chiller-pc1dv]

Interestingly enough, historically speaking, heels were originally worn by men.

[@ShadowNinetales]

​@@Chiller-pc1dv Oh yeah, absolutely. And pink used to be associated with boys, and blue with girls, until some fashion campaign a number of decades ago caused it to switch over. And yet so many people have no idea about any of this and think modern gender roles have just been set in stone since the beginning of time lol.

[@pathetic-traveller06]

@@Chiller-pc1dv Well,Everything that is femenin now used to be for men and jobs or things that are considered femenin used to be masculine.

[@zoesophia]

My mom is a trade wife. My parents were big on the umbrella authority thing, where god has authority over the father, the father over the mother, then the mother over children. So my mom used to say that if god told her to sacrifice us, she would do it :) also she "lost" all arguments to my step-dad and when I lost it and told them how harmful their constant arguing was to me, as a kid, she apologized to the family and step-dad basically just agreed with her that SHE was out of line and being a bad wife and setting a bad example to all the kids. He has never, ever taken accountability :)

[@thegoblinking.]

Your step dad sounds a lot like my mom's ex husband(aka he used to be my stepdad). He was a narcissist through and through. It seems to me like your stepdad may also be the same if he never takes accountability. Especially the pushing the blame onto your mother. My stepdad did the exact thing to the tee.

[@stellalebay767]

Men that come up with Mysogynistic thoughts are still the worst. But, Women that come up with Mysogynistic thoughts themselves are pathetic. Like, how??

[@EvanBear]

I used to be one of those "I don't need feminism because" women and I am very embarassed about it.

[@blueweirdo719]

It’s alright. At least you changed that’s what matters 😊

[@graceinthdhas1308]

Cringe

[@thegoblinking.]

Its fine, we all change and evolve. We all have past beliefs that arent the best. Dont bring yourself down because of it because you are a changed person.

[@LiegeOfGoblins]

As a kid whose mum prioritised her partner over her kids, for me at least, I can confirm it doesn't feel good, man. I'm not in contact with my parents and haven't been for some time. My brother and I are the only family we need. He doesn't have anything to do with them either.

[@arklestudios]

One of the weirdest things about Transformed Wife is when KZbinrs react to her refer to her by her real name, because that's also my Mom's name. It is funny though, when you consider how my Mom is a pro-choice neo-paganist Democrat married to a non-binary person.

[@turniplady2522]

Your mom is awesome just gotta say that

[@arklestudios]

@@turniplady2522 Pretty much. As a Socialist myself her Liberalism can be a bit cloying sometimes, but generally she's a good person. ;)

[@DayDreamingWriters]

Wo, your mom sounds like amazing person. I have question thought. How you refer to non-binary parent(Since I think since your mom married to Enby person, this person is your parent/ step-parent)? I just asked from curiosity! ^^" -From Questioning person

[@arklestudios]

@@DayDreamingWriters I just use their name, or say step-parent.

[@DayDreamingWriters]

@@arklestudios Ooo, Thats cool! Thanks for answering

[@alishaharris]

Land owning men basically = no poc. Historically, poc make up the smallest percentage of land owners.

[@elenafriese891]

And probably add "no poor people/no one who lives in a city" since owning land is a much different question in a rural area then it is in an urban one. (Wait... Do farmers actually own the land they're working on most of the time or are they whatever the modern equivalent of a tenant farmer is? I _live_ near a bunch of farms how the heck am I not sure?)

[@alishaharris]

@@elenafriese891 this is so true! Small farmers (like homesteaders) usually own the land, but larger farmers either lease/finance it or own it. A lot of really large farmers have agreements with corporations (like Tyson for example) to farm certain products in certain amounts in certain ways and the corporation will set it all up and pay them, but if they go against the agreement or try to end it because they disagree they're in danger of losing their land.

[@elenafriese891]

@@alishaharris ah, had a feeling. That... Definitely matches up with the complaints of an agricultural book I read once (essentially tenant farming emphasizes short term productivity over long term land management, and that is really, REALLY bad when combined with the old American/colonialist idea of "there's always more over the horizon so managing this stuff isn't actually important" that we can't seem to cut free of). (Which is especially bad for soil degradation because that takes a _while_ to notice and recovery becomes economically impossible after a while because there's no where else to go while fallowing the acers and acers of ruined farmland for the many years it probably needs)

[@alishaharris]

@@elenafriese891 It's such a multifaceted and intersectional issue. It's strange how far removed we are asa society from our food/agricultural production. Thank you for engaging in conversation :)

[@marugav6632]

I genuinely believe that these women are fetishizing the lack of women's rights... there is no other explanation

[@bluewassummoned9410]

“Where the f*ck am I supposed to keep a goat” -The Queer Kiwi 2022 🤣

[@tophstwin3252]

“The war on women- Sunscreen-“ 👀👀👀 Baby… I… nvm

[@dionnynatanuel5305]

I just can't imagine if her baby is a boy and she raising him to be an antiwomen/women hating person, doesn't that mean he will hate his mother too?

[@thegoblinking.]

I think she had a girl. Be lets be honest shes probably going to have several more kids and probably wants a boy so she'll keep having them until she gets one. She seems like the kinda parent that thinks that boy children are better for whatever reason.

[@prudiithegaymando2600]

Trad- wife- Why CHOOSE to eat unhealthy? Me- Money. Duh. Some people can't AFFORD to eat healthy.

[@claire3247]

The original voting parameters in the US was land owning men, the idea being that only men who own the land have a say in what happens on it. That’s what she’s referring to when she says land owning men, it’s really messed up… but just some history for you

[@thegoblinking.]

The law was used to specifically stop freed black men from voting which makes it even more messed up.

[@malikarsyasakani]

Tbh, If a woman wants to be a man’s property, she needs help. No exceptions.

[@sadworms3849]

As a woman I am horrified, as a Christian I am horrified, as a lover of weird subcultures… I am intrigued

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

"Women against women's rights." That is such a depressing title.

[@lilyslater8480]

So true. Also, I LOVE your name. That is incredible

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

@@lilyslater8480 Thank you! 😊

[@blueweirdo719]

It honestly is.

[@blueweirdo719]

@@lilyslater8480 same lol

[@juliahart8593]

Take me back to 2013, when my 6th grade teacher showed me a video about women saying they didn't want womens' suffrage and then taking it back desperately when they were told what suffrage meant.

[@nazkulmillenium]

Funny thing about this "Woman shouldn't work" take is that is so so wrong even from old standards. The only women that didn't work in old times were RICH women, that's it. All the others worked with their husbands, or had works on their owns doing more feminine tasks. The only difference was that their work wasn't recognized as important, or they didn't have the autonomy to do more fulfilling jobs or study. Women worked in all history, they had shitty horrible jobs that no man wanted to do, and most of the time the money went to the husbands or fathers or brothers anyway. They just like to think everyone was rich and important in all times while we have to be grateful, we live in a society that is starting to value the life of each individual.

[@ripwednesdayadams]

I guess their grandmamas didn’t school them on “the feminine mystique” (or accurate history in general). I was actually just looking at an old fashion blog in which the “maternity patterns” were all based around concealment- including wearing girdles. Society was more concerned with maintaining the status quo and pretend women don’t get pregnant despite raising them to only be wives and mothers. This was a deeply felt widespread problem that women were too scared to speak of until they knew others felt the same. These creators have a whole lot of privilege and they choose to shit on their fellow christians and regular ppl who don’t believe that bs. From the book; “It begins with an introduction describing what Friedan called "the problem that has no name"-the widespread unhappiness of women in the 1950s and early 1960s. She discusses the lives of several housewives from around the United States who were unhappy despite living in material comfort and being married with children.”

[@quizcastle]

The goat will just take care of itself if you’re a Real Christian and submit to your husband /j (edit: tone indicator) (I find it funny that my attempt at an exaggerated joke was too similar to the actual bs some christians say tho-)

[@veronica_sawyer_1989]

I- what

[@humanthing5709]

the what now

[@grimlytv2577]

Huh

[@Shottinf]

Praise our lord goat satan

[@melo8049]

Common Christian L take ngl

[@ladywesker5307]

How much you wanna bet that if these women saw other women looking specifically for men with money and they don't "appear" to be a what they think are respectable they would call them gold diggers.

[@rileygreet7150]

R E A L W O M E N G E T skin cancer

[@justinb864]

“That’s a sin” I’m not a Christian, so I don’t care. “Whaaaaat?!?!?”

[@Pa5an1]

I feel called out by the last one though. Maybe it’s my depression, maybe introversion, maybe I’m just lazy and boring, but I need my job so I feel useful. When my mental health is bad, even weekends feel too long and I don’t know what to do. Sure, I have ideas, but I often lack the energy to do stuff, cause I ask myself what’s the point. There were times when I had a week off cause I gotta use my vacation days and tried to sleep as much as possible cause I didn’t know how to fill those days. And yep, I’ve written books and still do, I work out, I’m fluent in three languages, I’m a martial artist, but still :D

[@zuglymonster]

These trade wives always really confuse me. According to their insane beliefs aren't they not supposed to be teaching? And transformed wife goes on and on about women not working, but I don't believe for a millisecond she doesn't make money somehow from her websites and such

[@kniferoomba4682]

They get an exemption bc it's their "purpose" to teach others and save their souls 😑

[@elenafriese891]

@@kniferoomba4682 or maybe "moral philosophy isn't a job it's a way of life/trade?"

[@jessienerdis4179]

I'm guessing sunscreen is anti-"woman" because we're not supposed to go outside. We're supposed to stay in the domestic space I'm guessing the kitchen is preferred

[@chloemcnally5456]

What’s more confusing to me is that when these women are on social media saying how women shouldn’t have certain rights or freedoms And how is ladies need to be at home with the babies and tending to the house and the husband only… and yet they find time to have a platform that takes them away from the activities that they tell everyone to do.

[@darkmillennia6508]

Kiwi: Are you ready? Me: No. Kiwi: Are we prepared? Me: No. Kiwi: Are you ready to look at some like 20-something-year-old-trad-wives? Me: Absolutely not. 😂

[@galuxius1861]

7:13 Ironic she's the type of person to say god doesn't make mistakes when it comes to trans people but when it comes to the year she was born she's complaining

[@sum414everuakn]

The "setting boundaries with your kids" really got me. My mother neglected me emotionally for most if not all my life in the assumption that that was best for me, at least that's the impression I'm getting. One of the sentences I heard almost everyday was: "don't you see I'm busy/ I don't feel well" when I wanted to talk to her about things like exciting events, what happened at school or that other kids were mean to me. Today, I have almost no emotional intelligence and I often think about my experiences because she's questioned my memories so many times in arguments (gaslit me basically) that I just don't know anymore. Yeah, setting those kinds of boundaries does not work that well in the real world and my mother isn't even a trad wife...

[@terezakostacka3572]

This is just so sad to watch. I can understand if older women are like this but women from my own generation or just a couple of years older than me? That's just sad. I hope they will get out of the situation they are in and learn to think for themselves.

[@CyberWarezz05]

My mom did a lot of mistakes as a parent, however I am grateful for 2 things she tought me: 1-do not accept to be abused by a man, physically, mentally or emotionally(which now that I think of it, is kinda ironic since my mom abused me) 2-work, so you don't have to depend on a man and live with the "I have to work so in case he leaves me, I will not starve" mentality

[@ferninthehouse]

the goat story reminds me of how people are always like "i paid for my own college while working full time and pulled myself up by my bootstraps" when its like... college is way less affordable now, and it obviously depends where you go but even the cheapest universities arent affordable enough for the students to pay off everything themselves, at least not without some loans.

[@Bun_Bun51]

The "put your husband first" thing made me furious. I was almost never put first and god these people don't understand how horrible it is. Half the time I feel forgotten and just neglected as a person because they just ignore what I need/leave me to my own devices. Put your kids first, and treat them with respect, unconditional love, and well.

[@willow9912]

I love that you don't hold back from saying things that you think.

[@damejanea.macdonald2371]

I think I can reverse engineer why sunscreen is a war on women and I hate that. I could be wrong and it might actually be worse, but here is my hypothesis: History books talk about paler skin being a sign of wealth, especially for women, because it means they don’t have to go out to work in the sun all day. I think she thinks sunscreen is bad because you can go outside without skin cancer. If you have left the kitchen long enough to get a sunburn, you’re doing it wrong.

[@Lonely_Raven_666]

Oooh yeah that makes sense. I mean no that doesn't it's racist and classist and all those things but now I understand the thinking process

[@emmarotman3976]

Thanks, I hate it

[@damejanea.macdonald2371]

Happy to help. But in this case I mean sorrowful to help.

[@charlotterandall542]

Off topic but that lipstick color looks awesome on you :)

[@connorburke6926]

Hey unrelated to the video but I thought you might want to know, you being a understanding Vegan has really inspired me to make more vegan and vegetarian choices, still far from full vegan, but i've only eaten meat once this week and am planning on trying to do this more regularly. Thank you for your videos, they may be rants about dumb people or people doing dumb things, but I love them thanks again! I should also clarify I realize that the wording might be poor sorry or may come across odd, I just woke up XD.

[@ShadowNinetales]

I hope that dietary change goes well for you and you can thrive on it. I tried going mostly-vegan at one point, and the longer I went without meat, the more I was consumed by horrendous brain fog and bodily fatigue. No amount of chickpeas, lentils or even eggs would help. Then I ate two portions of meat in one day, when the cravings were getting especially strong, and I felt super alert and pottered around vacuuming the whole house. It just goes to show that everyone's nutritional needs are different, and vegans are great as long as they understand that not everyone can process plant proteins as well as they do. My best friend is vegetarian purely because she doesn't enjoy meat at all, and she seems to have boundless energy for cracking jokes, dance practice and everything else. Also, I have a buddy also named Connor who often puts 'XD' at the end of things instead of a picture emoji. I like it, it brings back nice memories of scrolling through message boards in high school XD.

[@lemontree666333]

I love wearing vintage clothes. 1950's swing skirts? Yes please. However I definitely DON'T want to live in the 1950's. Absolutely not. Vintage style, not vintage values. I feel so bad for all these people honestly

[@MaddMaddox77]

On the "but my grandparents could do it". Both my parents' parents worked. My paternal grandfather was a milkman and his wife the town post master. My mum's parents were both teachers. They struggled on 2 salaries

[@trippi-jingles]

perfect timing! anxiety decided to cause issues for me today, and your videos always cheer me up

[@briannamay5459]

.....Why do... I don't even know how to word this it's so disgusting that these women hate freedom so much

[@melo8049]

Literally bruh!!

[@bambino05]

I would technically be considered a trad wife. I married my first boyfriend, had a baby together and now I'm a stay at home mum/wife. I would never push this lifestyle on anyone else. I've seen friends try to maintain this lifestyle and it's ruined them. If the trad life is something you want and can maintain then awesome you do you, if its not you do you

[@sarahthegreat929]

Being a stay at home mom is not the same as being a trad wife. Trad wives are people who advocate misogyny and abuse. If your relationship is healthy and equal you are not a trad wife.

[@bambino05]

@@sarahthegreat929 I more meant the side that they try to portray being a trad wife to be

[@ichbinben.]

I don't get why they want to limit themselves. By that I don't mean that being a trad wife itself is limiting, if that's the lifestyle they feel most comfortable with, that's great for them. I'd love to be a house-spouse, cooking, cleaning, gardening, etc., while my partner brings home the money, that'd be great. I'm a genderfluid trans-man though, so those people wouldn't want ME to have that life, unless I detransitioned and "became" a woman again. And the thing is, they CAN live that life today, as can I (provided we find partners who have enough income to support both of us, which in America is unlikely, but I'm German, here it's difficult too, but not as improbable). We CAN live more or less however we want today (in certain regions of the world, of course), in the fifties or earlier you HAD to live a certain way. I probably wouldn't have lived at all. I wouldn't want to live in any other time than today, except for tomorrow. I love vintage fashion, especially 1920s, and I can wear that today and decorate my place in that style TODAY! But I can actually wear more of it, since I'm not limited to only men's or only women's fashion. I could dress like an 18th century aristocrat, and I would get weird looks, but I'd be fine! And if trad wives don't want the vote, nobody's forcing them! Just live your best, trad wife life, and leave the rest of us in peace! But that's not what it's about, they don't want to be meak and quiet and submissive, they want to appear like that, feel like they're better than the rest of us because they follow "traditional gender norms", but they love speaking their mind and trying to influence politics when it's about forcing their lifestyle on others.

[@jenana6882]

She probably said "land owning men" because with her logic we would also be going back to racism being okay and people of color weren't allowed to own land or it was extremely hard to obtain. So on top of internalized misogyny we have internalized racism. Of course I could be stretching it

[@theelvishdragon7238]

That woman who was like "only land owning men" likely also wants those men to also only be white