Women's 3 Choices: Poverty, Equality, or Tradition

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[@anthonywilliams7052]

They need to pay for themselves now, work 40 to 60 hour weeks just like men.

[@thijsjong]

They cant. I have seen several women who burn out after 5-10 years working 20 hour a week jobs.

[@anthonywilliams7052]

@@thijsjong Yep, most of the "I need a man to pay my bills" crowd. Tell them to "MAN UP" and work for 50 more years. Just like men.

[@ma3stro681]

Spinster Winter has well and truly arrived … 🐈 🍷😱😵☠️

[@mazdrpan4099]

Most men I know work 80 hour weeks like its nothing. Its always when they come home, to an entitled woman, where their will to provide breaks.

[@richardteale8203]

Yes & they fail to fathom their own stupidly in instigating their slay'very to the workforce, by listening to the lies of efinism & equality!

[@tsuneki9199]

Welcome to the competitive world of equality ladies! Now, you can enjoy just like us, what it’s like where results aren’t made equal for your convenience!

[@backupmusicaccount8488]

You mistake “Equality” for meaning “judging women by how well they can be men.” And then when they earn their own money pay for their own car and buy their own groceries you get mad and say she’s too masculine with her boss babe attitude. Seems more like you’re more interested in making women just as miserable as you are rather than true equality.

[@MarJonKRon]

I wonder if in a thousand years will people dig these writings out of the rubble and read them like it's Marcus Aurelius

[@shortchubbyneckbeard1681]

Aaronus Clareyis of Americana

[@mikosapps2476]

The venerable Cappy

[@LesGrossman69]

Assholeous Maximus

[@tech5298]

“So much, for the glory of Feminism.”

[@redpillaware5101]

In 1000 years from now none of this information will exist. Even the best IT storage technology has a 100 year shelf life. The only information storage that can stand the test of time is carvings in stone. Even that has a shelf life but that it is exponentially longer than modern technology or paper.

[@Don-ds3dy]

100 years of feminism vs billions of years of evolution.

[@Jenda-ld8dj]

About 6k years of evolution actually.

[@Vikingr4Jesus5919]

According to your evolution theory, this would be a "normal" progression in said evolution as "survival of the fittest" goes. Those responsible for feminism causing so much damage in morals between men and women (and they're not even the only parties doing that *cough LGTBQ*) now watch as a generation never before is no longer wanting offspring. Yes, think about that carefully. An entire generation heading towards "no offspring". Significant population decline at this rate in a matter of just one or two more generations - it's already declining as is. If not in quantity, certainly in quality of character and wisdom and morals. It's ugly! Evolution: "This is fine." If that's what you truly believe, billions of evolution from simple organisms and clumps of cells with no purpose to life other than existing for a puff of breath in time, then what do you care? There's no purpose to anyone's life, so let's watch the bickering and lying and murdering and death rates increase as we all see unfold and not give a fook. Unless there's in fact more to life than the mere physical, and we're actual created beings with a purpose from a Creator - with free will, yes, but no less potential and purposeful for that. Certainly far more potential, even if "only an idea", than the faith in that we're today's results of inexplainable billions of billions of cells through billions of years with somehow no purpose or origin at all. Given we are indeed from a Creator, what is happening to men and women alike today is beyond horrendous, it's evil. But dear Darwin isn't going to resolve anything.

[@healthymindhappierlife5089]

@@Jenda-ld8dj It's way more than that mate.

[@riwjin]

They will choose the worst option. Always, as a collective.

[@CH-vv2hr]

It is simply what they do... " Empowerment "

[@tunebeat3809]

Several women want to fit in with everyone else since they're the gatherers in society, even if it meant destroying their credibility long term. Doesn't help that few women are opposed to radical feminism.

[@jckorn9148]

I knew exactly what I wanted when I was at dinner in middle school with my first girlfriend and her family. Stability, a family of my own, wife and kids. She moved but I got a better girl, been with her for almost 20 years now. She looks at me today the same way she did when I had nothing. Love really is the most important thing. It's the foundation you can build a life on, for yourself and your family. It lets you look past the small stuff and focus on the bigger picture, making a home. But I saw it as a kid, in my grandparents. And my kids are seeing it today with us. "Between a man and a woman, it's everything or nothing at all." - Flogging Molly

[@fauxbro1983]

lol at least they get 3. men have 2 choices, adapt or die.

[@WhyteHorse2023]

We have a 3rd option: passport.

[@jacobnewell7845]

Passport counts as adapt, but can also lead to die

[@WhyteHorse2023]

It's more like shopping elsewhere and bartering a better deal. @@jacobnewell7845

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

@@WhyteHorse2023passports a cope. You’re still using your paycheck to please women cuz living overseas isn’t cheap and 90% of them want US citizenship. You’re just doing the same thing over there as you are here 😂. The mental gymnastics guys will do to convince themselves places like Brazil and japan is full of traditional women is hilarious

[@ElMorbo-x2y]

They are Utopians. Won’t make any choice which is the same as choosing poverty and a lonely death. They’re growing old having never had a child or a career either. What a society.

[@noahglenn8305]

Less ppl= higher wages

[@steveg2277]

W ending lol

[@thenarsian]

@@noahglenn8305 Less people? LOL! That's what illegal immigration is for.

[@michah321]

What is this obsession with having offspring present for your death? That's a terrible reason to have kids. To force them to watch you die. 😬

[@morpheus2615]

Feminism and its consequences have been a disaster for society.

[@watamutha]

I dont only blame Feminism, I blame old people too.

[@fitcher-armchair-sleuth]

The pronification of society didn't help.

[@nicolasvenezuelaverde1184]

We the young people need to end this bs

[@michah321]

Feminism has freed women from being controlled by men. Can you imagine the hell of being forced into servitude to women? Welcome to what women endured for centuries. No way will we go back. Would you sign up to be someone's property?

[@michah321]

@@nicolasvenezuelaverde1184 what are you talking about?

[@AaronCMounts]

If you want to gauge the difference in work output between men and women, simply watch your local gym. See what the levels of exertion female gym-goers are putting into their workouts, and compare it to the males.

[@TNAROHfan]

It's why I stopped working out at gyms and invested in a home gym instead. Other than just being a hassle that sometimes busy gyms are. or going at weird hours to avoid the crowds, coed gyms almost always seem to cater to the female clientele and before long you find yourself as an outsider who can't work even out the way want to, because it "upsets" the girls. Don't load too much weight or you are "showing off". Don't push yourself too hard and grunt. Don't do a decent workout until muscle failure and drop your weights too loudly. or just whatever they don't like on that particular day. It's an old problem I've had to deal with since high school, when the girls used to invade our weight room and take up space, because it was unfair that the boys teams "monopolized" it. Most of them didn't even want to be there and they were just disruptive. They would sit on the machines and basically gossip instead of working out, or sneak off in the corners to smoke. Just basically anything to get out of working out. They could have accomplished the same thing with a room and a few light dumbbells, exercise bands and a couple of stationary bikes, but it was "important to share". The one thing I appreciated about college was having our own training facility that nobody but our team could use.

[@chuckchan4127]

​@@Donner906 lmao you got triggered bro

[@michah321]

Why is that relevant to anything?

[@jamesrowles9249]

Living in Austin for over two years now. We have a lot of homeless here, and I have noticed a larger amount of women amongst them than ever before when I was younger and visiting the city in the past. I guess the equality option didn't work out for them, and so many men in Austin don't give a damn about marriage anymore.

[@rayakoth]

Newer white knights have no resources, and older white knights were burned enough by ex lovers and society and jobs. Everyone loses, really.

[@falconaudiostudios]

"Tradition is the solution to problems we've forgotten existed".

[@raymond_sycamore]

The poverty scenario is by far the most likely.

[@unkono]

Yep

[@lanceroyal699]

Get to work beaches... we wanna retire on your taxable income dollar's..!

[@jimjohnson394]

Never going to happen, women will live in poverty first.

LOL You are short sighted. You won't be able to retire on Patriarchal Taxes. "Taxation is Theft." Anarchists and Feminism are rebuilding the Matriarchal Iroquois' ancient Maternal Gift Economy aka "alternative economy" filled with non-monetary transactions and unpaid labor that is not taxed or counted by the GDP. Men love using it helping Feminism overthrow Patriarchal Capitalism.

[@ss-oq9pc]

"No need for complaining" lol. Trust me, they'll find something to complain about.

[@Einny807]

If Traditional is the choice no fault divorce would need to be eliminated, requiring documented provable grounds for divorce. Family courts would need to be severely and completely overhauled, this would possibly entice enough men to reconsider the possibility of marriage, knowing that women could not file for divorce simply because they were board and divorce grape the men. Infidelity would be grounds for divorce and the guilty party (man or woman) would gain or receive nothing from the divorce court. Paternity tests would be mandatory after all births (no exceptions) The elimination of birth control pills will probably never happen but if it did it may serve in the restoring of feminine virtues.

[@Soloong_Gaybowzer]

Very true. But that won't happen until the 19th Amendment is repealed or a new government is built from the ground up. Women's voting power is what has enabled all of this, and women will always vote selfishly and in the short term.

[@smithrr6]

im optimistic that if the marriage rate continues to be low and the country is in danger of population decline, I believe that the courts will reform family law with one of those reforms being the elimination of no fault divorce. Since you cant really get rid of the community property agreement that comes with marriage, the courts will have to make that community property agreement stronger so that it can't be broken once the agreement is made. I believe that the courts know that women are abusing the community property agreement and dont have to be as committed to a husband as much as a husband has to be committed to a wife, and this will get balanced in a few decades.

[@Shiranui400]

@@smithrr6 I'm going to be real with you, it's already too late. We're fucked, the system is broken, and it will stay that way. It is not getting better. Ever. Things will collapse. The question isn't will there be a collapse, but more so, "when, how, and to what extent?" Any improvements to the situation will be made after the fact, and will likely never truly be the same. The rides over, and it's not getting fixed.

[@TSMSnation]

There will nenevr be a population decline with this level of immigration

[@ardentglazier2867]

@@smithrr6Never happen. The family courts answer to no one, and women as a collective would never vote for judges and politicrats that would intentionally diminish their ability to abuse the system. Furthermore family courts are in fact cash cows for a 'divorce industrial complex' that is incentivized to justify their own existence using emotional arguments of Do Goodlyness that tends to appeal to women.. which is why family courts are the way they are.

[@nephilimshammer9567]

Only problem is they highjacked the workplaces stil get all the benifits and extra rights. Men get shafted

[@765lbsquat]

some women would choose poverty over happiness if it meant men couldn't be happy. I've met a few (dozen).

[@map3384]

What I find ridiculous is women think men’s happiness is linked to them. It’s laughable.

[@carolwelcome3348]

No woman is going to choose poverty over HER happiness.

[@map3384]

@@carolwelcome3348 Lucky for men. Thank God men are the gatekeepers to marriage.

[@carolwelcome3348]

@@map3384 Marriage should be about both people being happy. Both people having common goals and both working towards them. The comment was about women choosing poverty over happiness which I can't see women doing.

[@rtbear674]

I only see 2 as the logical conclusion. As the world turned into post apocalyptic world, women record themselves with some sad music playing on the back, self pitying themselves like those women who divorced their husband on tiktok.

[@ronaldmcdonald3965]

my cousin

[@eddarby469]

I don't think the status quo option #2 is sustainable. Therefore it isn't a real option.

[@rtbear674]

@@eddarby469 It wasn't sustainable, but i think it's what I think it'll probably happen. W : we need women working in sewer too. W : Not me, but someone. Population wise probably fine, they just keep breeding chad's kid. And everyone will claim welfare, and the standard of living getting even lower.

[@NuclearFalcon146]

@@eddarby469 It is probably what will happen over much of our remaining lifetime until a transition phase is reached where "Equality" takes over. Overall the r-selected will die out due to sub replacement level reproduction. Meanwhile in the late 21st century through the 22nd century the K-selected Traditionalists will become more prevalent and eventually the majority. It is a Darwinian selection event.

[@coultersheppard2052]

@@eddarby469 Why does it matter that it isn't sustainable? We aren't making the choice. A thousand different interest groups will lobby to maintain #2 until no amount of lobbying can, and by various regressive forces, like disillusionment, depression, and flat contrarianism, will pull us all back to #3. #1 is never happening.

[@Nubbley]

Not all men are equal though. Who are these women equal to? Chad/Tyrone?

[@SweatyFatGuy]

That Dylan kid that dresses like em... I wonder how long this comment will stay.

[@DeanDewnuffun]

Guess if Equality is not really an option... then that leaves even fewer options.

[@Chop_69]

bro I debunk equality all the time and the first thing I point out is that men aren't even equal to each other lmao

[@ceu160193]

@@DeanDewnuffun It never was. People aren't born equal, time to face it already.

[@addertooth1]

@@ceu160193 Men are born equal, unless they have a birth defect. The actions of their parents and their personal choices define how far they rise. The easy/fun path is the one which leads to poverty. The hard/challenging path moves them ahead of their fellow man.

[@eyerollthereforeiam1709]

Just the other day the truck came by to pick up the recycling bins, driven by a young woman! I was astonished. I've never seen that before.

[@TheBigdog868]

We've got one of those too. She doesn't stop at my place because I was never given a bin. If she wanted me to recycle she'd give me a bin.

[@AaronCMounts]

DEI mandates make it easy for women to get government jobs, like driving for the city services.

[@eyerollthereforeiam1709]

@@AaronCMounts True, but this was a low end shittier job that strong, amazing, empowered women don't touch with a stick.

[@johnkay4701]

Was this woman doing any of the 'shitty' hard work end of actually emptying the bins that the men were doing? You see, just driving a truck, with its power steering. synchromesh gearing or fully auto transmission is easy peasy, it isn't hard work. So if I'm guessing correctly, was she given the easy job because she's a woman????

[@Endymion766]

Is being a wife really so bad that they willing choose wage slavery and dying alone over it?

[@jposhpaws2588]

Yes

[@hyperteleXii]

Womens' only technique to answering that question is apparently fuck around and find out.

[@shanepatrick641]

They are to stubborn and must always be right. They'd die lonely and emotionally scarred. Old crones!

[@jposhpaws2588]

@@shanepatrick641 they would marry if they could find some nice liberal chad , but America is populated with a lot of tradcons , incels and red pill losers .

[@carolwelcome3348]

Yes. Employers pay you and your free time is yours. Too many of us have seen family members cheated on or the husband stops working and is no longer responsible for the family. It doesn't make any sense to put ourselves in that situation. ETA traditionally many women married men who were older than them. Which meant husbands tended to die first. Nor are men as likely to take on the caretaker role if a woman gets sick...... women have always been dying alone.

[@Quizurius]

Just finished this book. It is 100% accurate

[@davidb3155]

Still more choices then men get

[@Fullmetal.Alchemist]

They are not strong. Real strength comes from within and knowledge. Unfortunately social media and government is ruining that.

[@lonewolf18650]

Most of them wont have the choice of traditionalism because they destroy the economic situation that made that possible

[@ss-oq9pc]

Always makes me laugh how they'll try to prove that women are better than man, by trying to act like men.

[@Scylithen]

Big Daddy G will still throw everything but the kitchen sink at making sure they are not completely in poverty, especially if they are a baby momma

[@victhemagcuber10]

Until the dollar collapses due to the necessity to maintain spending meaning more money printing, crack-up boom and hyperinflation, which will happen by 2050 at the latest that'll be fun

[@theunlearnedmind7374]

We are completely doomed, if we don't turn this thing around and quick.

[@matthewcherrington2634]

There is a 4th option its called starship troopers

[@Apollo_Centauri]

He’s doing his part!

[@tarektechmarine8209]

@gringott12 Sign me up, anything for the Terran Federation!

[@tw751]

It could be a packaging and marketing problem. "You can have it all, in the right order." Sounds better than "give up your freedom and return to traditional gender roles" Or we find a really good solution to the modern world. 😅

[@johnkay4701]

I fairly sure that western societies are simply doomed, because women will choose the short-term selfish option most times. I succeed financially because I choose to invest with a medium or long term strategy. 24-years after my divorce graping, I'm now rolling in dosh. My ex-wife, after her spending spree of the short-term proceeds of divorce, had the bailiffs knocking at her door when MY money ran out. I say again; women will choose the short-term selfish option. Society is doomed.

[@TSMSnation]

Yet your here on KZbin. Suuure buddy. Now get back into your moms basement before the sunlight starts to hurt.

[@fantasia55]

Did she get more money from you?

[@johnkay4701]

@@fantasia55 Hi, of course. When do the divorce courts ever play fair & split the total marital assets proportionate to the contributions put in before the marriage? She had also stolen several tens of thousands from the joint bank account years before the divorce & hid it safely with her brother & mother in advance preparation. I would never ever recommend marriage to any male in the western countries who has made something of their life, he just becomes a target for yet another woman on the make for the easy hit. Not just my personal experience, I know several other male friends who have had similar experiences. If anyone is male; don't get married, don't live together, don't have children, don't share any joint financial accounts.

[@fantasia55]

@@johnkay4701 yup, we're doomed

[@jimjohnson394]

The only likely outcome will be poverty until we crash to the point that women will return to the traditional home. But at that point, poverty will be so intense that she won't be going back to vacuuming the floors and doing dishes, she will be going back to hand washing clothes, chopping firewood for the cook stove, and all that other stuff my great-great-grandma did in their one room house that her husband built from scratch.

[@michah321]

True equality is the only reasonable alternative. Being subordinate was intolerable and would be intolerable.

[@richardteale8203]

Top marks Aaron! This monologue of yours is spot on & it highlights wmn's utter stupidly in believing the lies of efinism & equality!

[@duncanmac2195]

Id argue they do not have option 3 since that means the guy pays all the bills. A maid would be cheaper and a trad wife can still divorce you and cost a fortune.

[@shedactivist]

I disagree with the characterization that women will have to support their men. The reality is that it is the men who support their women because the family is priority, and it is women who provide that. The feminists literally threw the baby out with the bathwater, but they will never admit that.

[@prabhakaranprabu8901]

Feminism is a secret society ideology...do any westerns know about this..to destroy family ... illuminati wants to reduce world population through family destruction, world wars,bio wars,etc at infinity level. Traditional saves human race till now... but illuminati wants to destroy to implement woke culture in America and destroy world through America

[@theredpilllion5922]

They got half the money, and ALL the 😺, and they’re still not happy!

[@Daimo83]

I spent the first half of my life learning to fight wars and build houses. Without a wife and kids I'm not doing anything anymore.

[@bblink1457]

As a millennial than never going to merry, I always say why I work so hard for nothing for no family of my own.

[@carolwelcome3348]

This I don't understand. As a woman, I view working as something I need to do to survive. To eat and house me. Buy a few bits, and achieve my own goals. It has nothing to do with whether I am single or not. I don't understand why men seem to connect them. Can you explain it to me, please?

[@Daimo83]

@@carolwelcome3348 There's a difference between minimum and maximum performance for men. Building a house isn't just work like in a store or an office - it will cripple you. If men aren't working at their maximum performance the economy of your society is crippled through lack of domestic spending and lack of tax revenue.

[@carolwelcome3348]

​@@Daimo83 I feel like men don't want women pushing their partners to work more and bring in more money, yet men are also saying without women they won't work more. Inferring that with a partner, they would work more? Maybe part of them does want that encouragement to push harder and achieve more? Clearly, I am confused by it.

[@Daimo83]

@@carolwelcome3348 I'd say it depends on the man and it depends on the woman. A nice man will let a nice woman push him to his potential. But if she's a masculine 'girlboss' who 'has a phd' is 'focused on her career' or 'don't need no man' it's not going to work. Men will always defer to women and if a woman wants to be in a mans space she pushes him out.

[@philosopherkingzant2037]

"Women would get to work less, although that work would be redirected to feeding the family and the treadmill"

[@danieldpa8484]

Equality leads to poverty while traditional won’t be available after 30

[@kalasatwater2224]

They all choose only fans, they know the simps will be there for them haha

[@WhyteHorse2023]

Simping is down 39% in the past year.

[@michaelpaliden6660]

The more simping drops the better

[@Tetelestai-cw8qy]

Modern women will choose anything except godliness.

[@98gmc1500]

My ex wife has been complaining lately about how much work it is to raise our son, it’s becoming laughable almost, she voted for this, threw away a marriage to be free and independent, as long as my child support is there every month and I do my half witch is fulfilling and not a job to me she can complain till she’s blue is the face and I don’t have to give a shit, it’s actually satisfying to see her defeated trying to dump her emotional diarrhea on me and it have zero effect lol

[@ishiali100]

When women find out capital is global and labor is not

[@albionicamerican8806]

I have it on the authority of the _Star Trek_ franchise that Future Women are going to be childless & technologically competent, so that they can fly starships around the galaxy.

[@MrGuerrilla]

You know women thrive under traditionalism. Its easy for them to act traditional and play the chameleon...guys think that there's s special gal out there for him, only setting himself up for failure.

[@gigamoumantai2696]

This is why you should be like Shiggy and his misfit friends. Shiggy and his misfit friends always will unconditionally support you.

[@neuromancer9k]

And yet - even after seeing/hearing this, Women will come up with the fourth option and choose that.

[@DeathAndTaxesAbolitionist]

Tax slavery for men until men refuse to live under such tyranny.

[@notmgtowyet8442]

I'd send this to my daughter but she would tell me Mr. Clarey is wrong. I mean... she graduated college recently. So, she's automatically right?

[@famousguy547]

Send it to her.

[@Tardenglobe2346]

It doesn't matter. Trying to convince women that they're wrong will do no good.

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

Update us on what she answers to you about it.

[@shanepatrick641]

Yeah man give us an update if you send it to her.

[@watermelonkang]

What did she do at college?

[@donwelch6612]

recorded history doesn't provide us accounts of successful matriarchal civilizations. none. that's storybook nonsense. if this is to be the first, at 75 i am grateful that i'll miss the carnage.

[@smithrr6]

i foresee an increase in traditionalism for those women that are wise, and those women that are unwise will end up in poverty. I think we all know that the equality option is unsustainable, and after women get burned out on equality they will either give up and fall into poverty or submit to a decent man to prevent them from entering poverty.

[@BlackLion76]

"Submitting to a decent man" really means settling in her mind. She won't respect him and will most likely divorce rape his ass when she's not "happy." Meen need to recognize this & not marry such women.

[@healthymindhappierlife5089]

Or. Women will realize how unsustainable this equality thing is and continue to manipulate men and social narratives to get as much as they can. Like they always have.

[@Seminooos]

Choose wisely ladies. You’ll only get one chance.

[@beanstheorem8727]

Wait- here’s a thought- what if the pay gap (which we know is the earnings gap) isn’t actually a indicator of inequality of financial outcome, but a point toward the notion that the ladies are 39% less productive workers, as we made it illegal to be paid different wages? Not only are we doubling the workforce, the doubling is of people of sub-standard quality (economically speaking) and who have to fill a certain quality of job, as some jobs are too aggressive and abrasive for their weaker bodies, it floods that specific place in the market. I don’t really have another point beyond this, however it’s personally funny that the wage gap is used to get people jobs, when in fact it could’ve been used to bar high-investment jobs (6-10 year specialized training) with equal or greater weight.

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

Women do tend to cost more and produce less. There are, as always, exceptions, but that's the overall trend.

[@aztheking6280]

option a hah , like that is ever going to happen

[@Cyber-Rain]

After being carried so hard and still being carried, all while having so many safety nets, how incompetent does someone have to be to still fail?

[@CorpsesReborn]

What a good audiobook to play "Cruelty Squad" to.

[@grein545]

This isn’t directly related but I’m seeing news articles about the poor boomers not getting grandchildren. You wouldn’t suppose that’s karma for pulling up the ladder from behind them and creating divorce culture.

[@WhyteHorse2023]

My boomer mom has grand-kids she's not allowed to see. Direct result of pulling up the ladder and divorce.

[@angelika87]

boomers were bat shit crazy parents and their children are breaking the cycle

[@andrewguerra9343]

The gig is up, feminists. You’re going to pay the piper, like the old saying goes.

[@starseeker2793]

“Morally equivalent to each other???” Completely false. Two of them do not contribute to the future.

[@almamater489]

This man this learning math and fixing cars is hard 😂😂😂 yall are too funny

[@shlomomarkman6374]

The choice is probably to keep the status quo. Women are individuals and they will choose the seemingly optimal strategy for each one. Becoming traditional is not a viable option in current conditions as a single income from the husband is not enough as the husband needs to support not only his family but also the welfare state. Some women choose to become truly independent but they also will be taxed to support the welfare state. They might even go and have a child alone but will discover they can't support him even with a decent income. Personally I know it so because my wife is a stay at home mom to our two kids but I can barely support them because despite having income in the 2nd decile, between the taxes and the mortgage not much is left and my taxes are bprobably used to raise 1 kid that is not my own.

[@olyviermonteau4300]

yep.

[@thirdactwarrior317]

Interesting three choices. My critique of it is that it based on an world view limited to the internet. There is a whole world of people out there who don't take their cues from social media or the mainstream media. You have 117,000 subscribers. This video has only 6,500 views and just over 600 likes. There are 250 million adults in the US and roughly 8 billion in the world most of whom don't hold with the social trends you describe. Your analysis also assumes trends are so fixed in stone that we can only have three distinct choices. Culture is constantly in flux. Social pendulums always swing. No one can predict how it will go, so three choices is not enough. There are limitless possibilities. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I see your #1 as complete fantasy. A few women may achieve it, but it will never be widespread enough to take up the slack. And as studies have shown, the more women get the opportunity to have this kind of equality, the more they go the opposite direction and choose more traditional roles. And men are not going to just "step aside." #2 describes a lot of the current ills of Western society, but it assumes the economy can't be viable with some kind of mix. Good men will still step up and be productive, because that's what we do. There will always be the wussies out there who don't, but they become "untermensch," and be limited by economics and social status over time. Good women will also step up. Most will have careers they will drop out of to raise children. A few on the tails of the distribution will either never have kids and some will have kids but be forced to continue working, just like today. They may cling to some feminist ideals to bolster their self-respect, but most of them will have to realize that a lot of traditionalism must remain.#3 is also a fantasy. Women will never go for it and our legal/regulatory system works against it. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

[@gavinjohn3545]

That's two choices. Equality or Tradition, poverty can be a consequence of either but it is probably equality.

[@angelika87]

plenty married women end up broke and alone anyway...greedy and immoral women won't win with either choice

[@EgonCom]

I'm not sure tradition is truly awaible option. There are to many MGTOW for that to be true.

[@gregoryteeple9306]

I live option 3. It is the best possible outcome. I am the breadwinner and my wife works part time to supplement our income. We live the dream. 3 kids, large home on acerage just outside city limits, we are beyond blessed. But it was not easy getting here. My wife has a friend in a traditional role as well but never has any money. We are pretty sure her husband is an alcoholic and a gambler, telling her he is working while he is actually pissing all their money away. What the hell is a woman supposed to do when she has 4 kids and a piece of $hit husband? I have two girls, and that keeps me up at night. My sister married a pathetic man child that played video games and damn near nothing else for their eight year marriage. They actually lived in his dad's basement. Bad choice on her part but what are the girls supposed to do when the men are little boys?

[@khanhcao3123]

​@gringott12 hard to do when Chad and Tyrone give them the tingles. They rather settle with a lazy alpha than a hardworking beta.

[@MarieGeorge-m3y]

Thank you for writing that...myself and others raised after the feminist movement want option 3 but too many man children

[@angelika87]

let me guess...dating a man 10-20 years older than you is "gross" ?

[@afterthecrumble1117]

You got lucky. So did I, the difference is I’m willing to admit it. Stop shaming men and calling them ‘little boys’ for making the perfectly rational decision to stop trying. If you or I hadn’t been so lucky, it could very well be us playing those games in the basement.

[@unkono]

Option 2 seems most likely.

[@boondoggle4820]

I want equality to be their choice. Traditionalism is gynocentric and involves pandering and hypocritical misandrist double standards.

[@viz12345]

Exactly, feminism has freed men from plantation. And I don't wanna to get back there.

[@dharmadasa66]

They are incapable of true equality, it is a fantasy.

[@seamusesparza1943]

Exactly, none of these trads could give an outline of what a pater familias or pre-modern patriarchy was. To them traditionalism is putting on a Ward Clever suit, smoking a pipe like Tolkein, and going to church on Sunday.

[@angelika87]

yeah I'd rather work, be minimalist, and be with a man I actually like ...

[@geckobrah4201]

Option 2 is most likely.

[@Dank69410]

Ya west is done 😂

[@clydemarshall8095]

Option 1 would only work briefly if it was even possible

[@xenobob2773]

Love the powerpoint... Ill fight for equality... tomorrow.

[@ceu160193]

Too bad equality is a myth. People never were equal to begin with.

[@oldscratch3535]

Procrastinators unite! Tomorrow...

[@barbpaq]

One combo of at least 2 categories is to join a convent, marry Christ, and live a life of poverty, chastity and obedience to mothet superior. Not sure if or how equality fits into the equation.

[@hoppimike]

I think the choice society has made is to give women lots of extra opportunities in the jobs market.

[@loveincorporated9658]

Most women will have to work.

[@billypratt4201]

Interesting

[@Mantelar]

These are the choices for single moms. Career women can replace poverty with cat. Apparently the cat is sufficient hedge against risk to look for mister right all the way up until the last egg dries up.

[@Ominiumshadow24]

Pot has nothing to do with this for the guys. Me and my bros smoke pot and work. How else are we supposed to afford it 😂? Cant wait to start my An "ACTUAL" career in 3 weeks. No need to wish me luck, do it for these western gurlzas.

[@moxygenpathogen7678]

Come on you know they will not choose option 3

[@thepassdude5173]

3 choices? I like it. For the ladies it'll be like that TV game show " Let's Make a Deal" but in real life minus the cash and other prizes they can get from a divorce.😅

[@khankrum1]

Although there are some women that can " Spit on their hands and get on with it" Until they spot a mouse!

[@jposhpaws2588]

How can you have tradition with modern technology .

[@WillieCorley]

Equality sounds like the best option, though I think we are more likely to see society go into the poverty route.

[@GalryZ]

How about...make Government smaller? Any takers? Hmm?

[@jrconway3]

Objectively a good answer which is impossible with women constantly voting in the big government.

[@rny999]

1:25 grade inflation and more lenient sentences too.

[@johngalt6838]

true....3 choices.

[@jacksnyder7318]

Technology is the great equalizer, there's no turning back. The difference between men and women is being neutralized and procreation will be genetically appropriated. Enjoy the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil' Cleverness is not wisdom and wisdom does not wealth provide but growth of spirit and mind.

[@r1p2m32]

If and when meritocracy re-appears.

[@Modine.]

So how many choices do men have?

[@michaelpaliden6660]

2

[@annabelenko1611]

Key word “did”

[@barkingmouse8152]

court system still makes "tradwives" a liability..

[@circasurvive9891]

🔥A1🔥

[@KellyJermoma]

Can’t trust her to fill that role..

[@Trizzer89]

Are you sure the third option would be an economic boom or are you just hoping it will? I think we'd have to increase the gig economy with jobs women can do from home for any hope of a boom

[@generalrendar7290]

Yes. It would solve the fertility crisis, wages would keep pace with productivity, families would be able to build up wealth and break the cycle of poverty, and there would be a lot less crime as fathers go back to moderating the emotions of children as they used to do.

[@shanepatrick641]

​@generalrendar7290 ding ding ding! Correct!! Listen to this man gentlemen.

[@shanepatrick641]

Of course it would, look back at when the Nuclear family was the norm? A lot of people were a lot better off. Family's could be raised on 1 wage. When women joined the work force, that meant wages stagnated/ lowered because corporations had a much larger labour pool.

[@carolwelcome3348]

Not only that, would men really want to marry and support women who don't like them or find them attractive? What kind of nightmare would that be to live, for both sexes?

[@mazdrpan4099]

It would be more economic value for families and less for corporations.

[@legislatedanarchy1380]

Wouldn't it be great if men had a third option too?

[@Lichnaya_pravda]

No. All this variants are not viable. There's fourth, that will emerge: increasing prices on everything and increasing taxation will force men to work again, butvwithout "sexual compensation". I dont belive many nen will choose starvation, homelessness etc. This option they have now - to live on low payment easy jobs - will disappear due to worsening economical situation in the country.

[@dharmadasa66]

No. Women will support authoritarian big government. Men will revolt and die in huge numbers to reinstate a hard patriarchy (Option 3).

[@sevinbamuels6560]

You’re not getting it. Men are not going to stop working, we’re going to stop thriving! A single man can get all is life essentials on just working 20-30 hours a week. A man can live on very little money without the female around.

[@Chicharrera.]

Yesterday, .My husband and I were stopped at some roadworks. A worker held up a "stop" sign while we waited for one of the trucks to reverse in front of us. I thought to myself "There are no women wanting to do this sort of work." Then, when the worker flipped his sign to "slow" and my husband slowly drove on through, I looked and saw a single woman in uniform standing there. Ugh. Women are even in construction now.😬

[@brentharrington9235]

Option 1) Pathetic that any man would allow their daughters to be drafted. True equality is good though, as an option. Option 2) The inevitable outcome. Option 3) This is a parallel society that already exists.

[@map3384]

Why wouldn’t their daughter adhere to the same standards as men? If men can fight and die on the battlefield so can women. Now that’s equality.

[@brentharrington9235]

@@map3384 if you think human progress looks like 18-year-old woman with their faces canoed on the battlefield, then I guess you can call me old fashioned.

[@NuclearFalcon146]

That parallel society is likely the one that will survive what is effectively a Darwinian selection event. Progressivism is likely to be derided by most in 2200 as most adherents to it will likely not have any progeny survive the 22nd century.

[@brentharrington9235]

@@NuclearFalcon146 Just like the Shakers disappeared, so will the anti-natalist progressive. Keep your kids out of their indoctrination camps and at home where they belong.

[@Jose-yt3qz]

@@brentharrington9235 Well, but them you are avoiding the proper answer feminism and current mainstream of thought women have require to accept the options and what it implies, which doesn't help. Sometimes society requires to eat the bitter anwers of their ideals, even if you find men walking to that choice is 'pathetic'. Learn through misery, even if that will bring a kind of thought behavior in women that I find detestable (which is when their answers are 'lover does not pay the bills', take your own conclusions from it). The results of your kind of choice? Women won't get to see what their current thought behavior means, won't get that if they can't do what men do, then they need to learn to accept whatever reality gave them, for better or for worse, as men do, which...just keeps the slate without an answer for the next 'pseudo-conservative' generation to walk the same path again. Better the suffering 1) gives rather than keeping the slate without the answer progressivism requires. Let the answer be given...thus everything will fall in place, hell, that will even fix men's behavior in a sense.

[@fredc3543]

MORE COMPLICATED: Economics requires FEMs to work. Most men's income is NOT sufficient to support a household.

[@Yeetus223]

Supply and demand. Flooding the workforce with double the population while increasing economic innovation by 20% puts downward pressure on wages. Combined with the lack of coupling means more single occupant housing thrusts the price of living upwards. Other factors like a bloated HR department shifts any possible extra income increase to be distributed amongst feminine bloat. Though one could argue that the extra 20% extra economic innovation would still exist because female innovators would still be driven and encouraged. Like the first self made female millionaire was black creating hair care products for the ignored black woman. Amongst other factors like less need for money of unpaid labor. Cooking, cleaning, laundry, childcare etc. sure the GDP goes up if you go out to eat, hire a maid, drop your clothes of at a laundry service, and god forbid leave your child with a minimum wage employee. But extra costs like prisoners from single mother homes skyrocket. All the while daddy government takes a slice at every transaction to the point they will tax you on the mode of transportation you take to eat at McDonalds. Saying it is not sufficient to raise a household is only because the women wants more more more while the man could live in a cardboard box and children are fine sleeping on a couch. There are families living in the slums of new Delhi. The cavemen did worse yet we still thrived. A simple one room house is far better than 99% of human history. But women want the current year SUV and Prada bags.

[@fredc3543]

@@Yeetus223 Ten cent army post?