Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap Review

[@sergiomonty]

Why are platformers not getting decent review scores anymore? Seriously, holy shit ,from Ducktales Remastered to Yoshi's Woolly World to Yooka Laylee to this...

[@markxv2267]

sergiomonty its not COD

[@rahnyc4]

because their names arent donkey kong, rayman or mario.

[@GuyLogen]

Yooka-Laylee seems like it's a 6~7 game. It just seems like it could have done a lot of genre defining things or things that would make the gameplay experience fun in modern standards but fell short of those promises. Snake pass seemed like a more fun game than yooka laylee and I barely knew of it's existence until IGN reviewed it. Also there was the cuphead game which seemed to have gotten good reviews. Yoshi's woolly world seems like a 7~8 game which means that it's a great game. Nothing like a super mario but it'll do. The next mario game (super mario world) might be getting anywhere from 8~9 or maybe even higher than that so all love is not lost for platformers.

[@sergiomonty]

Cuphead isn't even out yet. There's no review of that game yet. Yooka Laylee is a great indie game for Banjo-Kazooie fans that seems to be unfairly reviewed as a full AAA game. Snake Pass had advertisements for Switch and PS4 everywhere. Yoshi's Woolly World is an excellent platformer. I have it. And the next Mario game is certainly not "Super Mario World"....... a game that came out in 1990. Where are you getting your facts from? geez.

[@chrisdsx5]

When this came out on master system is was mind blowing good! 10 for sure back then. Even today this game would be a solid 8 but go look up master system game in 1989 you'll see what I'm talking about. Rating it is like rating super mario bro and saying it's missing modern features by todays standards I'd rate super mario bros a 3 or 4. But at the time it was released it was mind blowing good 10 outta 10. Rating retro is not fair tbh.

[@Doctre81]

Didn't sound like a 7.1 review to me.

[@Microwave414]

*throws a stack of money at IGN* 8.7/10 Maybe we were harsh *Throws another stack of money at IGN* 10/10 Like skyrim but with grinding.

[@MrRevillo]

you are nitpicking and biased, he wins, bye bye!

[@andylarson8704]

I disliked their video cuz it is not honest

[@packers12to80]

@@andylarson8704 its not honest? U saying it's better or worse then a 7.1?

[@stllbreathnbut_y1844]

Grinding is absolutely not necessary unless you want to collect every useless item.

[@fancychipss]

Ya, I was confused too. Since dying doesnt get rid of money, my multiple tries at a single area meant I racked up quite the fortune.

[@xPXGx]

7.1 is criminally low score for such a polished and incredibly built game. I'm loving it on the Switch. There's virtually nothing wrong.

[@crowmigration8245]

Adam G "virtually"? Virtual console on switch confirmed

[@sideskroll]

The controls are amongst the worst Ive ever used.

[@ivnwng]

Nothing wrong? How about outdated controls and slippery movements?

[@adam2178]

its outdated

[@jamesfehr2071]

None of you are true gamers or your far too young to be making such petty critiques.

[@YoshMaster]

Holy fu.. that is one gorgeous game!!! :O I'm buying it just to encourage more beautiful 2D games like this!!

[@donstarlancer]

YoshMaster agreed. Felt the same way watching this.

[@TheVentrexian]

YoshMaster the shantae series, shovel knight, hollow knight, oddworld New n tasty, ori and the blind forest. look into those, exceptional and beautiful platformers.

[@eyeden819]

it's ugly it's rocks don't look anything like they do in real life

[@SylveonTrapito]

Jason Orozco Got them all and love them all!

[@mobilegamesnews9568]

with very nice music :)

[@Alianger]

2:05 Here's a tip then - if you reload, chests besides the ones with heart pieces reset so you can keep going to them instead of grinding on enemies. The best ones are the sphinx and the intro castle ones. But you also don't *need* any of the more expensive shop items to reach a boss fight, you just get that gear if you find the game too hard or if you want to sequence break.

[@bravebiird]

the words make you think 8-8.5, that 7.1 score feels out of left field

[@1dayago843]

Dear Capcom, please hire these guys to remaster the classic Mega Man series.

[@retrohero2762]

Having this style from 1-10 for a $30-50 price point will be a must buy

[@steinis6409]

Nah, megaman already has too many parts in all kind of art styles from retro till modern. I'd rather love to see other retro games instead that dont have a ton of of sequels.

[@andrewvaaler8633]

holy shit. great idea

[@Ishbot]

I can already imagine megaman and the robotmasters in this style

[@TheLuw1997]

What was that? You want 10 different versions of Street Fighter 5?! Ok.

[@Nachestic]

"Forcing us to grind for randomly drop items becomes tedious" Come on man, this shit is the shit that has been standarized precisely these last years. I hope you don't review Destiny 2 "for instance".

[@JaesadaSrisuk]

Nachestic Just because it became standardized in the industry doesn't mean that it's still not poor game design. I'd much rather complain over something I find broken in terms of gameplay, instead of just accepting it because "all the other major titles do that".

[@snomonster3]

Nachestic it's a valid complaint. I want to play a game that respects my time. you can get a sense of satisfaction from improving a character through grinding, but it looks like in this case it doesn't have that purpose.

[@Nachestic]

I totally agree that is poor game design, I do not like it either. I was trying to say that the reviewer seemed to point out that this particular mechanic could have been fixed with "simple mechanics" (?) modern games have. When in reality modern games such as Destiny and the most expected Destiny 2, along with many, many other games we could get now are exploting this shitty mechanic to extend gameplay time. My point was just to discuss his "modern games got rid of this tedious stuff" with my "like hell they do".

[@JaesadaSrisuk]

snomonster3 I totally agree. Generally, I have very little time to devote to video games, so a title that requires hundreds of hours of grinding just to progress through the game is out of the question for me. I usually end up playing and enjoying indie games that average about two to ten hours, because I would prefer a shorter but comprehensive experience over a longer game that's more dull or monotonous.

[@vomitoriumbassist]

Justice J. Srisuk hell blade, senua's sacrifice sounds like something you might enjoy! Its coming out soon and looks great! But the devs did say that its a smaller game, but focuses on story, adventure and puzzles.. seems great!

[@iregretsomeofmypreviouscom3284]

This beautuful game deserves an 8 at least. They made a great remake of one of the best metroidvanias ever and for me, the best Master System game so far!! This remake gave the original game justice. 7.1??? Is abit too low. TOO LOW.

[@codenamezz9993]

It's IGN, you know. Don't give them too Michel credits

[@sergiogarciac.6640]

amazing game , deserves at least an 8

[@gchsbus]

higher

[@sodacaps3998]

Higher. This game is a masterpeice

[@lastxp]

He probably gives mona Lisa a 4

[@StiffAftermath]

7/10. Really. I thought 8 would be just right. Not many games from that era can hold up as well as this one.

[@sideskroll]

??? On the contrary, most side scrollers (a genre I love as my name can attest) hold up extremely well. In fact, this is amongst the lesser ones as the controls are beyond terrible.

[@martymartin2894]

@@sideskroll on this version or the original

[@sideskroll]

@@martymartin2894 Never played the original. I was talking about this remake in particular BUT, apparently the original had floaty controls as well..

[@martymartin2894]

@@sideskroll I never played this either but I played some of the other wonderboys.

[@Y2JM]

High above the mucky-muck, castle made of clouds, There sits Wonderboy, sitting oh so proudly. Not much to say when you're high above the mucky-muck. Yeah, yeah. Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck man? Now it's time for me to tell you about Young Nastyman, archrival and nemesis of Wonderboy, with powers comparable to Wonderboy. What powers you ask? I dunno how 'bout the power of flight? That do anything for ya? That's levitation, holmes. How 'bout the power to kill a yak from 200 yards away... with mind bullets! That's telekinesis, Kyle. How 'bout the power to move you? History of Wonderboy and Young Nastyman, Riggah-goo-goo, riggah-goo-goo. A secret to be told, a gold chest to be bold, And blasting forth with three-part harmony, yeow! Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck man? Well, Wonderboy and Young Nastyman joined forces; they formed a band the likes of which have never been seen, and they called themselves Tenacious D. That's right, Me! And KG! We're now Tenacious D! Come fly with me, fly! Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck man, Oh! Take my hand! Young Nastyman, and we'll fly! Bring out your broadsword. There's the hydra. Slice his throat! And grab his scroat. You take the high road, I'll take the low. There, the crevasse, Fill it with your mighty juice.

[@mad_mobmusic]

Tenacious D

[@rambler2701]

I came here to see if anyone would quote this song, was not expecting the whole thing.

[@gravyhippo]

Y2JM HAHA yes!!!!!!

[@williamnicolay3745]

7.1 is harsh. I just finished this game for the second time (I think I was 9 the first time). This game is something special. Being able to switch seamlessly between original and updated graphics is a testament to how this game holds up thirty years later. Why change mechanics? Too bad you have to “grind”. I always enjoyed going back to an area that I had struggled with earlier in the game with my new equipment and utterly devastating the enemies around me. Dragon’s Trap is flat out fun to play. This game was a technical achievement for its time and extremely underrated for decades. Why change now I guess. This is the perfect piece of nastalgia to help hold me over until season three of Stranger Things. Also, quick tip if no one wants to “grind”. Once your Hawk Man you can fly right to the original castle from the beginning of the game. Go to the room where you fought the first dragon and get a ton of coin from a chest. Defeat all of the enemies in here and get the legendary sword and armor for free as drops. Come up the exit at the well. Instead of getting out of the well, go to the left inside of it and press up for a secret door where you can buy the legendary shield.

[@sda6795]

I got the game, give it a 9. The grind I think is great. Don't know why that would be a problem. Look at dark souls / bloodborne

[@snazzyperformance2526]

Amaizing retro switch mechanic, faithful to the briliant original, good platoforming, soundtrack, level design and graphics. Buuut it has grinding, therefore it's 7.1 whet

[@martymartin2894]

What is grinding

[@snazzyperformance2526]

@@martymartin2894 Grinding, when used in context of video game critique, is the game or game developers making you do same tasks over-and-over again to gain more points, level up to attain something or even progress through the game. This is often used in RPG's.

[@martymartin2894]

Oh rite thanks

[@ChitChatGaming]

Looks like a lot of fun! The way you were explaining it and such I was expecting at least an 8, kinda surprised with the 7.1 score lol

[@3212seis]

If you liked Shantae on the VITA - you will like this. Glad to finally get something to play (and worth the price) on the Switch.

[@timzel]

But I only like Shantae on Wii U, 3DS, PS4 and PC :(

[@fancyslimoshady]

shit ! I only liked it on Steam :(

[@3212seis]

Fancyslimshady not sure who would fire up a 750W PSU for shantae but to each their own... I would only play Shantae on the go.

[@fancyslimoshady]

3212adolfo is that how you see pc gaming ? Poor child..

[@3212seis]

Holiday Armadillo the Fabulousss jesus, time to upgrade man.

[@SylveonTrapito]

That's a pretty low score. The game is perfect. "frustrating 80's mechanics"? How old are the reviewer? 12 years old?

[@Jof-]

I have played through this game and, even though I thought it was a great remake (and deserves a higher score maybe an 8) you cannot deny that this game has certain annoyances that are present in even some of the best 80s games. For example, there are LITERALLY INVISIBLE doors and pathways as “secrets” and difficulty is sometimes created by simply making the enemies hit harder/have more health, which just feels a bit cheap.

[@KevinSparksatx]

Nah, some 80's game mechanics are bullshit and I'd rather not go through all that again. I can't say whether that applies to this one though.

[@meatrace]

A 7 isn't a low score. A 3 is a low score.

[@sodacaps3998]

@WaVy Crockett #JizzBoss WHAT

[@sodacaps3998]

@WaVy Crockett #JizzBoss also this is a perfect game

[@VideoJamesNZ]

This game is a BEAST! 😄 Such a brilliant remake! A must play for any oldschool fan.

[@gamerprince-tl5hg]

When I first saw this game I instantly fell in love... The music and the fantastical art style just fit perfectly

[@omaisho]

Why 7.1? It's at least an 8.

[@benjiskitts]

Yeah because we don't have farming in 2017 .....??? Lol

[@sukhWins]

Cant believe the reviewer gave 7.1 for this such a polished and exciting game. I wish more games like this.

[@8bitnitwit]

I'd love to see Wonder Boy in Monster Land get a remake next :)

[@2chickenbone]

Are the maps EXACTLY the same as the master system version??? Or is there some variation/ new sections?

[@gorix16]

On next week (14 July 2022) that game is gonna be avaible for free on Epic Games Store.

[@markxv2267]

7 is too low for this gem

[@assmister]

the graphics are amazing

[@bengan1061]

I'm wondering if there is a high jump by double tapping????

[@joelmiles3041]

4 reviews today? We are so spoiled!

[@WadeDMcGinnis]

This and the Quake Champions Preview seems to have some well thought out reviewers behind em. Good on IGN.

[@clockwork204]

Capcom should remake Megaman like this, with remastered BGMs and awesomely hand drawn 2D sprites.

[@geoffreyyoung3558]

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck man?

[@arifmunshi6833]

free on epic games just now

[@TheOfficialClassicGamer]

Now if we can get a Alex Kidd in Miracle World Remaster... Maybe a Ristar remastered? Anything like this is fine

[@Wykesidefruitmachine]

OfficialClassicGamer808 Fans are actually working on AK, and it looks amazing!

[@lacreatura4737]

So about that...

[@TheOfficialClassicGamer]

@@lacreatura4737 I know

[@HakunaKun]

Thanks for the video!! Only add that the vid say this game is a "Remastered version" (0:27) and the description "Remake", Remastered and Remake isn't the same you know :P... in my opinion it's a remake just saying XD...

[@guillermorendon2579]

Okay. So has anyone had any luck locating a copy to preorder/buy?

[@IRahkuBz]

*7.1/10*... typical IGN.

[@_Only_Zuul]

i loved this game when i was a kid...if i'm not mistaken, it was continuous play? i mean like, it didn't have levels or stages? you could just keep going...

[@michaelabernethy6699]

this is how 8 bit remakes should be done. I love the hand drawn look

[@dilwalecricket]

Are there any other games like this whether new or remastered available on ps4

[@connorhalleck2895]

Disney movies ARE hand drawn sketches lol

[@MrFragglerock75]

Looks like they kept the classic "every walkable surface is made of ice" feature

[@Buggerme75]

Wonder girl doesn't work all she does is stand there baking cakes.

[@jonathancarless8496]

The visual upgrade is brilliant.

[@mediawatcher9225]

I'm impressed by the animation, I mean wow what an upgrade, I love the 2d animated art style

[@sow_scout4989]

Great review. For those on the edge, do yourselves a favor and pick it up. This game is charming.

[@wallacewallaby5782]

They did fix the issue of farming for charm stones to buy items, instead having just 6 of them in challenge rooms for each of Wonderboy/girl's forms. I remember that being immensely annoying when I was playing as a kid and much worse than just grinding for money.

[@Melvito2]

Mario and Shantae had a baby, and gave it to Link to raise it. It grew up to be this game.

[@wenweru1]

Why was the discount Zelda main theme playing at the beginning?

[@syedali2143]

can u play this on nvidia shield tv as don't want to play it on pc or console

[@bladid]

so when is captain claw getting a remake?

[@benadrylthundercrotch7144]

I've loved this game since I was 6 and replayed the original about a year ago and it really holds up well. I'm definitely gonna get this as soon as I finish zelda

[@Bole_ZG]

From where you pulled that score.. This is not skating on ice

[@SystemSyko]

No physical?

[@nintendokings]

It’s one of the best ‘Metroidvanias’ I’ve played, and actually pre-dates the genre. 7.1 is way too low.

[@dwainbunker]

It doesn't actually force you to grind for randomly dropped items at all. Interested to know the basis for this claim.

[@martymartin2894]

What does he mean by grinding

[@wannabkain4400]

Would I have needed to play wonder boy 1 and 2?

[@ΖΕΝοΕΠΑΜΙΤΗΣ]

does anyone know if this game was made on vector graphics or it was bitmap based? thanx in advance

[@bty_gamingcompendium2102]

would be awesome if they tackled 'Wonder Boy In Monster World' next.

[@KegRaider]

I bought "Meka" the SMS emulator from the lead Dev Omar back in 1999, just to play the classic of this. I had it preordered as soon as I saw it on PS4, and will pick it up on steam in June. regardless of the "only 7 hours" of gameplay, it's cheaper and more fun than most modern games anyway, thus better value for money. hell, I am still playing this nearly 30 years on, so that speaks value to me :)

[@kyokusanagi616]

Must buy in my opinion. But you gotta have lived it.

[@breakerboy365]

i never heard of wonderboy before this remake bought it because it looked great and i do not regret it at all

[@martymartin2894]

@@breakerboy365 all the old wonder boy games were great.

[@reedrichards1820]

There are hidden shops to buy potions and elemental attacks

[@Chudd705]

Just bought it and im watching the minutes count down as it downloads. I can't wait to play it!

[@theanglerfish9852]

Judging by all the efforts they did o. Sticking to the original and not ruining it with extra content (hell, you can even switch to the original if you feel like it. How many games do that?), I think it deserved far more than just 7.1.

[@BusinessMan1619]

currently Free on Epic 7/16/22

[@captaincapsaicin1319]

High up in the mucky muck, castles made of clouds...

[@flyslyw]

He gushes about how amazing the game is, lists one small negative, then gives it a 7.1...

[@brnk2]

Ign: It's a retro remake. Sensible person: I'd say this game is 8/10. Ign: What about 7/10? Sensible Person: fine. Ign: *7.1 it is*

[@S1RLANC3]

I gave you a thumb up a year ago but after playing this, I ended u retracting is because I don't think this score warrants this game considering that the only thing that you nit picked on in the review was a little grinding which I personally found fun. Personally, I'm so glad Filip joined your team.

[@nickguns1823]

I bet you regret this comment now!!

[@captaincapsaicin1319]

high up in the mucky mucky, castles made made of clouds...

[@StriderRyu7]

I hope a Vita port is on the horizon.Looks too beautiful...

[@eyeden819]

vita's dead

[@markxv2267]

StriderRyu7 whats a vita ?

[@nabbit5574]

StriderRyu7 Ain't coming to Vita

[@StriderRyu7]

Guys,don't be like that.Many games are still coming for Vita,digital and physical.... Just yesterday,it was announced Under Night In-Birth Exe was coming to all major Sony platforms...including Vita.Also,the Vita hasn't been hacked to hell like the PSP IIRC.... If it doesn't happen,I'll get it for Steam.😌

[@gregkilby5053]

I thought DotEmu went under? Would love this to be a physical release.

[@Erlisch1337]

Thank god we can switch to the originals graphics. Was on the edge about buying this but once I saw that you could switch I instantly bought it. D:

[@Guernicaman]

Only one minor gripe present in games today like latest Zelda & it gets a 7? Hmm...Weird metrics, IGN.

[@theanglerfish9852]

If grinding is so much of a burden, never play the post 2000's Final Fantasy games expecting to get the "most powerful weapon in the game". I have played this a million times on the Master System and, quite frankly, I don't remember grinding to be an issue. The difficulty was punishing, though.

[@52BLUE]

Hire these guys to do a remaster of the entire Alex Kidd series from the master system. Shinobi World, anybody?

[@gavinj1511]

Bought this game an hour ago and now seeing this review hope its good.

I would have personally given it an 8/10 from playing the original last year. some of the mechanics are a bit basic but this game is still fun.

[@wonderfulwardy]

Just bought this on the PSN Store and here are my overall thoughts:- It replaces the MS version completely but I was left wanting more.... Sooooo much more.... like a full blown remake. read on..... I'm a long term fan of the original but something about it just made me want more. Like a full blown remake of certain mechaniqs. Dragon shouldn't breath fire under water (it's so 80's gameplay), wish there was more attributes to elements etc such as certain elements should have damage variants for enemy's and player etc, more secret doors and teasure room should be able to be discovered, armor swords and shields should have special ability that goes way beyond just the one that magically makes blocks appear and destroys those very same blocks. That kind of remake is what I wanted. Even with the original, there are many times where I would think about where I would place certain extra treasure rooms if I were a Level Designer and was hoping they'd show up more in this remake but there is hardly anything that's new or changed from the original for the better. Another thing that would have been good is that enemy's should no longer constantly drop money after the first time you killed them, thus encouraging the player to do more exploring for treasure rooms, and going out their way to truely get rewarded. That idea alone has been engraved in my mind ever since I played the original 20+ years ago.. I hope all this makes sense and I really wish Lizard Cube see this post I made on various youtube video reviews. I would have also loved a level editor upon completing the game too, or some multiplayer modes such as death match (yea, why not), Co-Op and more. I know I sound like I'm being nit-picky but the truth is, I've already rinsed both the Master System Original, The slightly remixed Game Gear Version, The Smooth 60fps Dragon Curse version on Turbo Grafx 16, and even the fan-remake on PC (which I still think is by far the best in terms of gameplay), so I was really expecting more varieation in gameplay. Not just the same game all over again. Don't get me wrong though, I absolutely love the new Remake's Hand-Drawn Art (it's a shame we don't get female animal forms as sprites too), and this is by far superior in every way to the Master System version (basically making it pointless), but I'd still recommend playing the Game Gear version for slight differences if you're a hardcore fan, The Dragons Curse because well, I like the sprites and wish we could have got those too for this remake, and I advise any fan out there to download the Fan Remake on PC. I even remember reaching out to the creator of that fan game for a Level Editor but he refused to offer one. :(

[@JuanDiaz-jo1rw]

I dont want to miss judge this game because I haven't played it.. but what we really all want is a remake of the original wonder on the master system.. it's the only wonder boy worth playing..

[@wambam8296]

Yo at this point I don’t even listen to the game reviewer, everyone in the comments points out things they missed and when all of them are gathered it makes a better review then the video

[@saynotop2w]

It's hilarious how easy it is to predict IGN's score even before their video begins.

[@kevinsuarezmacena1003]

"Is like the Dark Souls of Metroid-vanias"... But now seriously, I play the original as kid and now see and play this on the Switch with such and amazing makeover, is princeless! The animation is so fluid, is like playable art, and the music men! Jon done an amazing job but is a bit sad 'cause it seems that the game is not getting much attention, I really feel that. For me it deserves it!

[@Gebirges]

Gotta say: This game is really punishing when losing... setting the player back to the home when losing at the end of a level... really frustrating too when playing really late at night and running in area's above the current gear level :O

[@ComicsLamar]

I love the fact that these 2d sidescrolls are making a comeback

[@ralph4lyf]

The game is on sale right now. On the Switch for $9.99 50%off so worth it. Downloading right now

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

I know it's not a big deal but...it took 7 hours to beat? What the hell was you doing? I've never played this game before, going in completely blind and getting close to 100% and it only took around 4 hours.

[@samuelbrod1207]

booo

[@teddydgx]

is this digital only or there is physical copy ?>?

[@Lordran__]

teddy susan Digital only (for now at least)

[@kingdarkking]

Can someone please suggest more remastered platforming games like Wonder Boy.

[@Retrosys]

Uh... Castlevania didn't adopt the Metroid formula until 1997, if someone picked up a Castlevania game prior to 1995, it was the classic action platformer stage to stage games. That doesn't describe this game's gameplay at all. Great research IGN...

[@XXtheJUMPoffXX]

Now this is how you reboot a retro game

[@epicon6]

I hope you make text music video reviews of games soon

[@DLM16A2]

WOW.. didnt realize they remade this game. I used to kill it on the Sega Master System when i was a kid.....

[@MethosChannel]

This is how you REMAKE a game, would like to see more games like this with the same "cartoonish" design.

[@superfightman2053]

01:53 Ah yes, because grinding for random drops has been completely eradicated in our modern, enlightened age.

[@martymartin2894]

What is grinding in a game can u please tell me. Does it mean like working hard to get items. If so I don't see the problem as that's what made the games great.

[@superfightman2053]

@@martymartin2894 It means literally the opposite of working hard. Doing something very simple repeatedly to gain unlimited power. For example in a classic JRPG you can solve almost every problem with the following strategy: 1. Wiggle D-pad until combat starts. 2. Mash confirm button until combat stops. Repeat.

[@musclemark2710]

Switch pick up asap! Another gem!

[@paulolameiras861]

Bought it yesterday. I remember playing the original on my Master System, and this remake looks amazing!

[@steamcontrolled3665]

umm its 2017 where is wonderblack and wondergay?

[@katt-the-pig]

Wait, a 7.1 isn't "average" to IGN? Color me impressed.