Unravelling The Chain Of Errors Behind The Crash Of Aeroperú Flight 603 | Mayday S1 EP4 | Wonder

[@bldlightpainting]

This is the kind of idiocy I seen everyday when I worked in the airline industry as a ramp service agent. I filed a number of reports with my supervisor detailing unsafe actions of my fellow employees, some of which could have been catastrophic. Frustrated with the low-quality of employees the commercial airline that I worked for was hiring, I ended up quitting. But not before I wrote a service manual that was accepted by this commercial airline company and is required in their training to this very day. So my hope is my time in this industry helped save lives.

[@phxcppdvlazi]

Do you still work in aerospace adjacent industry?

[@figgiefigueroa7372]

Thank you for your honesty.

[@cheery-hex]

you would think with the price of tickets they could hire quality staff. that said it doesn't really seem to be negligence in this case. unless, was he supposed to be using a checklist?

[@maryannswanson3832]

You are a smart person, observant and a good thinker. I am proud of you for taking the time to write up situations that needed attention. Too many dummies are working in jobs that can be life threatening. first, all should be taught the meaning of- - - - Cause and Effect. And I believe that the report that you wrote up was easier to read and understand, so good for you!

[@RichardWilliams-pu1ky]

I was an electrical safety inspector for the largest Commuter RR in the US. On a daily basis, I was overruled by managers who had zero technical knowledge. Not only that, but when I would go over peoples heads, I would be disciplined. I quit as soon as I got my pension rights even though I was still 4 years short of the required age.

[@loislane.8511]

I get so depressed after watching these kinds of documentaries but I couldn't stop watching, RIP to all the souls onboard.

[@stefanc4520]

@nono4564 Da fuq you doing here then? Lol

[@stefanc4520]

@nono4564 No thanks . I prefer Simon Cowell from Americas Got Talent to be my judge!

[@susiearviso3032]

Lois, there's a lot of lows in life. Disappointments, etc... its okay to accept disappointments are a part of living. But don't let sad events overtake you. Protect your mental health. People die everyday for one reason or another. It's just part of living. You MATTER!

[@andrew_koala2974]

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[@issabeganovic8822]

I used to be very aerophobic. But then I realised that it's not the planes I should be afraid of. But the people who maintain, and fly them. One simple tiny mistake can mean somebody else's life in your hands.

[@hannahmaesanderson]

I’ve been binge watching airplane crash investigations but this one truly hit me. This is really the saddest and most terrifying situation. I think it is the utter confusion and hopelessness of the pilots. It’s such a shame, they tried their best but they didn’t stand a chance. Edit : listening to people say what they should’ve, could’ve, would’ve done just leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Faced with that situation, I don’t believe anyone person would make all the right choices given the circumstances.

[@poluticon]

Pilots were incompetent and causes the deaths of everyone on board.

[@metallicmonkey4519]

They did stand a chance, they just needed to turn the computer off and flight all analog. Unfortunetely, they weren't trained to do so, and that's Boeing's fault.

[@ldkellandshaw]

@@metallicmonkey4519 It's hardly Boeings fault. Aeroperu trained it's pilots, Aeroperu employed the maintenance people (or contacted with someone who did) - it's basic aviation skills that first and foremost you fly the plane. Don't let an aircraft go somewhere your brain hasn't been 5 minutes before.

[@legitbeans9078]

I've downloaded the whole air crash investigation series onto my phone and watch them whenever I'm on a plane. Lol

[@adityaagrahari6163]

​@legitbeans907🤣🤣

[@memealine6322]

The "To low, terrain" warning genuinely terrifies me. It just keeps droning on and sounds almost calm in comparison to the other alarms in the cockpit. It's chilling.

[@BlueSapphiree]

The "Pull Up" alarm as well. So terrifying

[@Champagneyear]

As a pilot My self Yes the pull up alarm is scarey

[@mrkipling2201]

I totally agree. Hearing that ‘ too low terrain ‘ warning brings it home to the crew that they are running out of time to rectify the situation.

[@annecohen8927]

Have you heard of a computer that sends false information to the flight controller?

[@arianamaria_]

I’ve listened to the cvr’s from from one of the planes from 9/11 and from the French flight that flew into the mountains a few years ago and both of them were so ominous for this exact reason. For whatever reason the screaming of the terrorists was not even close to being as creepy as the alerts

[@jazzjazznjazz]

Feel very sad for the pilots .. they tried their best. Their worst enemy turned out to be “night”. Had this happened by day , they would’ve had sense of horizon

[@allison88123]

I think that all the time

[@Norenius7988]

There attitude indicator was working so they had a horizon! I´m a retired airline pilot and I just wonder why pilots not learn to fly there airplane with attitude indicator only! Using pitch indication and power setting only. In my training i learn that. You do not need a exact airspeed you can manage and cape the plane flying on pitch and power only! Both this accident and the accident with Air France Rio to Paris over the Atlantic could have been saved with that knowledge. The airplane will be airborne this way but with a poor performance and high fuel consumption. All airplanes can fly on pitch and power stetting as only information.

[@sofiepan847]

@@Norenius7988 😔😔😔

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@Norenius7988 on top of that they knew their instruments were erroneous and kept going into the open ocean . Not good decision at all.

[@iamadreamer7461]

The mistake was mainly the pilot's, he could have engaged the TOGA before reaching the ocean, and when the FO saught help and assistance the pilot pleaded him not to and that it was okay that they were indeed at 3000ft when in fact the next minute the left wing was hitting the water.

[@Benjamin-fu5ij]

Everything about this flight was eerie. The broken altimeter and speed indicators, the conflicting warnings, the inundation of noise from multiple warning systems, the terrain warning with zero visual reference over the pacific in the middle of the night, and the pilots realization that they're hitting water, absolutely horrendous. I remember this was the first episode of Mayday I ever watched (Over a decade ago - I think I was 13 at the time), and it has stuck with me ever since, I simply cannot forget it. Can't imagine how it must be for the families.

[@lisas8244]

I cannot imagine the terror the pilots endured as they heard multiple contradictory warnings and didn't know how to right the situation. This was like an episode of the Twilight Zone. And the thought that passengers survived upon hitting the water because the plane stayed intact, only to drown at night in the ocean is too terrible to allow your mind to visit that thought for too long. This is the most horrifying situation I can imagine. Those poor helpless people.

[@ricardopereira2746]

I agree with you 100% but I still think the pilot was too sure of himself. Even when the co pilot was warning him, then the stick shaker... of course it's easy for us to judge after the fact, but the truth is that I cannot imagine the pressure those men were experiencing. Nonetheless, he should have returned to the airport as soon as they start having conflicting information.

[@nelzelpher7158]

These POS planes keep killing people.

[@TheLittlered1961]

This is what happens when instruments and computers are used as your primary way to fly. Pilots need to learn how to fly by the seat of their pants.

[@TheLittlered1961]

The only ones that won were the lawyers

[@vulpine3431]

@@ricardopereira2746 But like, they literally did. The moment they realised that there was something wrong they asked to return to the airport.

[@jennys.8703]

In my opinion there would be a simple solution to avoid the problem of "forgotten tape": - Don't use just a small piece of tape to cover the pitot system. Use a very long tape, 5 to 7 meters, cover up the pitot and static ports with one end and let the rest of the tape hang down to the ground. - This tape needs to be checkered or striped in neon colors. This way any "forgotten tape" would be detected immediately.

[@jimmywrangles]

Brilliant idea.

[@steveperreira5850]

That is a good idea, common sense, but still a very good idea. What I’ve learned is the aviation industry is full of big heads and little thinking. As a pilot myself, it is a matter of preflight checklist to visually observed the pitot static ports. The pilots did not do the preflight checklist. They are to blame.

[@kscorp5176]

They knew that. Grey tape was already explicitly warned against in the regulations prior to this accident. I remember from a late 90s news article about this crash that the workers was supposed to use a coloured flourescent orange (or red?) tape that could be seen from the ground during visual inspections. But the safety tape was more expensive than the common (grey) duct tape. It's another tragedy caused by cost-cutting.

[@PRH123]

That actually is what is done with pitot tube covers. A long red ribbon hangs down. These are used when aircraft are parked to avoid things getting into them like insects.

[@doabarrellroll69]

@@PRH123 didn't a hornets nest in an pitot tube also bring down another 757 ?

[@seonaelizabethcoster8465]

Having the retired Air Canada Pilot, Alan McLeod, explain each step of the flight, explain what each alarm/warning meant, explain what the poor flight crew were experiencing, all in his calm, authoritative manner, has made this one of my favourite episodes of Mayday/Aircrash Investigations. It's not something that I remember seeing in any other episode, and I really think that it would make for a much better series.

[@hungryaki69]

For me it's Richard Rodriguez making sounds of alarms Absolutely amazing performance

[@Gaua1]

I love richard Rodriguez in all his appearances in the series. He talks with such a professionality and humanity.

[@1whocs486]

Yep a nice touch

[@isabellind1292]

He's great! And yes, Mr Rodriguez is too! And it's the first time I've ever heard a narrator describe a plane as acting "deranged" and I'm sure that's exactly what the pilots thought as well.

[@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr]

I imagine that when we have a nice, level flight, along with smooth landings, there hasn't been much unusual in the cockpit. Thank goodness.

[@backfire1853]

The most ever terrifying and heartbreaking last minutes before crash. The pilots did everything they could under such circumstances but could not save the aircraft. RIP to all.

[@rnies6849]

they had no chance

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@rnies6849 actually they had but didn't understand what was going on . Retired pilots said they should've tried to fly the plane on pitch only and power settings. On top of that I don't know why they kept going into open ocean with false instruments

[@carvoloco4229]

To be fair, they could have checked the pitot tubes for obvious obstructions before departure.

[@pressendforspanish]

The pilot didn't do everything because he missed the tape covering the pitot.

[@Crystals10000]

sad that they had malfunctioning equipment

[@rommy143]

That pilot that is demonstrating what the equipment and systems warnings are genuinely looks distressed just thinking about and imagining what those pilots were experiencing. So sad.

[@andrew_koala2974]

Understand that what you are watching is a re-creation of the event. All the characters are actors. Your mind is deceiving your logical thought process into be LIE ving that the expressions are true, where in fact they are only what is called 'Photorealistic'

[@HoneyQuint]

@@andrew_koala2974 did u learn english from internet? It clearly says she understands that he is in distress because he feels wot they felt duh. U just ran ur mouth explaining that she has been deceived when she said the opposite. I know for fact Coala is way faster than u r

[@redbreadredemption2401]

@@andrew_koala2974 oh shut up

[@mikeloghry9521]

Sooo very sad )-;

[@carolinacoreas7716]

@@andrew_koala2974 r/im14andthisisdeep

[@neomumolla9810]

being on air traffic control is also heartbreaking like imagine you are talking to someone until their last breathe, you're with them until their last moments then they're just gone

[@rixxy9204]

Radar and plane information is significantly better these days for ATC to provide help. Looking at what he had to work with, this person probably was just as confused as the pilots.

[@tvs3497]

Within 1 minute of takeoff, if you show 0 airspeed, and 0 altimeter, that's about a 99% chance pitot-static is blocked. And since the terrain warning is a different system, you would tend to trust it above all others. I wonder if airplane manufacturers will ever install cameras throughout the plane so pilots can view the outside of the plane and inside in critical areas to help pilots determine what is malfunctioning.

[@RandomGuy-om1vy]

The A380 has it iirc.

[@ELFCloudGamer]

some planes do have flight cams that even the passengers can view. but, I guess at night even this is useless. like all you'd see is pitch black

[@vodnurse5702]

I was about to say exactly this!

[@drakon_Phoenix]

Night vision cams?

[@michaelmiller8455]

@@drakon_Phoenix Right? I can't imagine it would cost that much more to have cameras capable of night optics.

[@Itried20takennames]

10:00 “He could have kept the plane a loft for hours, but decided to land...”. If the plane has warnings and systems malfunctioning left and right, I would agree with trying to land before things got even worse. Not like you can fix most things while the plane is flying.

[@peterolsen269]

I think the mans point was, if the pilot knew more about his situation, he could of kept the aircraft airborne for hours. Maybe even flown in formation with the 707 that was coming to rescue them. Of course not knowing, it's easy to see why he would try to land. A lot of adrenaline pumping there.

[@patriciajones474]

They didnt realize the plan was actually desending!

[@peterolsen269]

@@patriciajones474 Dear, do you know anything about flying aircraft? I have been in aircraft that have airspeed indication problems. What you do.. is set the pitch.. in other words the Attitude, then you set the power, one that you already know.. and then you know the aircraft will settle to a known speed and will be level. If you are chasing instruments that don't work. you will be killed in short order. This is the point of being a pilot. If you can't fly the aircraft without instruments.. then any idiot can become a pilot. So that is why some of us are not so enthusiastic to support automation in transport category aircraft. OK?

[@philosopher0076]

@@peterolsen269 And how do you set the power when warnings are simultaneously telling you that you are going too fast...and the plane could fly apart from overspeed, and ALSO that you are going too slow...about to stall and drop like a stone?

[@peterolsen269]

@@philosopher0076 Pitch and Power; known settings of Attitude and Power that you have learned during previous time you have spent in the aircraft. That is the way everyone used to fly. Not chasing instruments into the ground. If all you have is a gyro and engine instruments, or even just throttle position, you can stabilize your aircraft. FACT.

[@kariukij2508]

The alarm warning "too low terrain" gave me goosebumps 😢

[@GailS.7777]

Those pilots were exceptional actors! Such a tragedy...so sad.

[@jimakcelik6486]

I’m so hooked to air disasters I’m listening while I’m driving have my ear buds. I’ll probably never fly again

[@voidzmhm]

@@jimakcelik6486 U know that there is more chance of you dying to the way to the airport then its to crash in a airplane

[@viraat610]

@@voidzmhm EXACTLY THANK YOU

[@usmanyo2k]

Those piolts deserve to be in Hollywood for their acting

[@GailS.7777]

@@jimakcelik6486 Haaaa LOL, me either!

[@darkmatters3821]

My safety instructor told me once "Safety regulations are written in blood"

[@laiyinquan8355]

That statement couldn't be more true. It is only through tragedies will the FAA be made aware of these flaws and seek to rectify them. Not saying that they must be aware of all the flaws in the plane 100%; that is a near impossible task.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@laiyinquan8355 that's because FAA is n bed with Boeing

[@Nasubi23]

Tombstone mentality

[@phoebelyngonzales3899]

Could you please explain what your instructor means?

[@darkmatters3821]

@@phoebelyngonzales3899 Certainly, I work in the oil and gas industry, petroleum engineer, and I took a safety class when I first join the Saudi Aramco.. it was about H2S hazards, hydrogen sulfide which is a monstrous gas, the worst that comes out of some oil fields, the devil incarnate.. you can't see it you can't smell it and you can't expect it. So, he was telling during the course about an incident that happened back in 2002.. there was a guy near an oil well who suddenly collapsed.. naturally his colleagues rushed to check on him and they started falling down one by one.. 11 people died trying to save the first man.. then the rest realized it must be H2S and wore masks and shut the well down.. after that tragedy, it became mandatory for every one to wear a device that peeps if that gas detected.. something like the canary in the mine in the old days... And that course which I took mandatory every 3 years.. No incident such as that happened since then.. So, it's true, we tend to revise the safety procedures only when someone dies. It's unfortunate but true.. Human condition i guess.. it's like what the gentleman here descried it's called Tombstone mentality. Hope that helped.. and please stay safe everyone during these difficult times.

[@gabriellahedarv1782]

Jeez, those poor pilots. They really fought a battle of epic proportions. They really did everything they could.

[@foxtrot312]

Except a routine pre-fligh inspection.

[@rae6982]

@@foxtrot312 im not a pilot, nor am i qualified in any plane things but the narration guy said ducktape was used, it was silver, and the tape was high up, so it wouldve been easy to miss

[@Little_Demonia]

@@foxtrot312 silver duct tape put in a silver bottom checked in the middle of the night with a not powerful torch can be missed.

[@stickyjocky]

@@rae6982 the should have used flex tape.

[@felobatirmoheb4884]

@@stickyjocky definitly would have stopped the water from getting in.

[@sintiaec9661]

The fact that they even tried to blame the pilot is so infuriating

[@ScottDLR]

Every damned time.

[@iamadreamer7461]

The mistake was mainly the pilot's, he could have engaged the TOGA before reaching the ocean, and when the FO saught help and assistance the pilot pleaded him not to and that it was okay that they were indeed at 3000ft when in fact the next minute the left wing was hitting the water.

[@travisbickle4360]

Thats Boeing for you

[@wernerfoerster3666]

We have no speed/ altitude indicators .. lets fly out over the dark ocean where there are no landmarks to estimate speed altitude

[@travisbickle4360]

@@wernerfoerster3666 Because they don't want to crash into populated area. Its piloting 101- Save people on ground even if you die

[@zoyalis1487]

I love the calmness of the retired pilot that was explaining what was going on in the cockpit of this ill fated plane. With his experience I wonder what he would've done in that situation. RIP to all souls lost.

[@adrianrocha49]

Mad respect for the investigator, not only staying on the job but also staying objective and doing a good job as well. None of that could have been easy considering his nephew was involved in the crash. Respect!

[@NyanyiC]

I still think there was a conflict. He should have stepped down for this one

[@ChristineTheHippie]

​@@NyanyiCthere wasn't. He did his junior

[@royharper9472]

So tragic and heartbreaking. Tell your loved ones "I love you" and do it often

[@Ali-kb8gr]

Yes. Well said.

[@NickGore-rf2dd]

What if your loved ones molested you?

[@royharper9472]

@@NickGore-rf2dd Those, I moved on from. If you cannot keep strong boundaries from toxic people (family)...let them go you will be happier. Sorry for your pain.

[@masha22092000r]

12:26 He said it best. It's very easy for us to sit here and say "the pilot should have done a... b... c..." from the comfort of our sofa.

[@michaelb2388]

It may be easy but it's still true

[@cellb2619]

​@michaelb2388 you don't understand how people react under pressure. you might be a robot🤖

[@pirate3599]

Yes but they should have just flown ATTITUDE (working normally) and AIRSPEED (they had groundspeed)

[@cellb2619]

@pirate3599 you see! you're not flying a plane nor under pressure, but yet, instead of typing "ALTITUDE," you typed "ATTITUDE"!! you see how easy it is to make a MISTAKE👈🤔

[@cellb2619]

@@pirate3599 don't judge!!

[@kwasisb5390]

This happened again with air Malaysia 134 when the maintenance crew left tape on the pitot tube and the pilot didn't also notice. This was also at night but luckily for them they were flying in a city so had a sense of horizon and managed to land the plane. R.I.P. to those who died in the aeroperu incident

[@ControlTouchMaster]

I’ve been flying for 27 years. The GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) warnings should always be given a higher priority over the other indications when there is a conflict in data. Additionally, I’ve also found static pressure ports covered with tape during preflight inspections in the past. I’ve also found clogged pitot tubes caused by bugs. Checking the static ports and pitot tubes is a mandatory part of my preflight inspection. Btw, all aircraft have static ports so blaming Boeing is wrong.

[@ChristyKSweet]

A wasp mud nest brought down one I seem to recall.

[@mobueh]

@@ChristyKSweet yes, the birgenair flight. It was a 757 as well

[@zygobones]

4 people overlooked the static ports after the initial mechanic used the wrong color tape. and yes that warning should be the first priority, but they had been given multiple false warnings. it's like the boy who cried wolf. it's very easy to look at the pilots actions after the crash and criticize, but without being in that situation/flying the plane with them i don't feel it's right to judge their actions

[@alvaroakatico9188]

@@zygobones well said! I was about to point exactly what you said, but you beat me to the punch.

[@nblad1563]

how did they get take off speed if pitot tubes were blocked

[@tenebra3227]

The original cockpit audio is terrifying. The desperation in the pilots' voices is too much.

[@tjtruth4793]

Can you link it?

[@Shenoahfrancis]

​@@tjtruth4793 bruh this comment 2 years old. Just Google it?

[@thelightknight4772]

@@tjtruth4793no

[@zenphire]

@@tjtruth4793TheFlightChannel did an animation of this flight with the real audio. You can just look up Aeroperu 603 and it should be there

[@dazzlingextremes389]

The only good part of the flight being smooth for the passengers until right when it ended was they didn't know and weren't panicked the entire time. This is absolutely horrific and so tragic that something so simple and someone being so careless ended in horrible fate.

[@2Fa2Bu]

Haven't you heard the real audio of this flight? There you can hear someone enfuriated saying saying: "You do not know how to flight!". I am sure all the crew members and passengers were well aware long before the tragic crash.

[@Polemosification]

Dunno where you are finding these classic episodes from but keep them coming my friend

[@Austrian-iv6bs]

Agree. I have seen Ukrainian and Russian versions of it already. Now I want to watch it in English

[@thisisme3238]

Agree 👍

[@ingridakerblom7577]

But I mean 16 commercial breaks.. wtf.. Every third minute..

[@isawacatsmokingweed7311]

@@ingridakerblom7577 they bought the rights to show the documentary, there's no chance to show the full show on youtube without paying the rights without the videos taken down.

[@aviationgaming1564]

They are from Mayday Air Disaster Investigation s

[@christopherbako]

I wonder, how often we've flown and never knew about drama in the cockpit.🚬

[@caseydykes117]

All the time

[@OutragedPufferfish]

Drunk pilots

[@christopherbako]

@@OutragedPufferfish Did you hear about the pilots that were on their Internet, They flew Way Past the target! They were playing on their Tablets.

[@OutragedPufferfish]

@@christopherbako What case was that?

[@christopherbako]

@@OutragedPufferfish Miss, I think...There are problems...But the They let us Relax😀

[@ahmedadventures1999]

I cried when Guido Fernandez was talking about how he felt when he was told his nephew was the co-pilot. I can’t imagine being in that position. 😢 Mr. Fernandez did a damn good job of pushing his emotions aside to find out what happened! 🫡 But R.I.P. David Fernandez and the rest of the people on board. 😢😭

[@Sunshine74444]

A whole plane goes down because of a small piece of tape. I am incredulous that the fate of a huge operation depended on a plane cleaner to use tape properly. It’s amazing the human race has made it this far.

[@allanshpeley4284]

Well it didn't really rely on the maintenance worker alone. Apparently there were at least 3 other people who could have prevented the situation from occurring if they did their jobs properly. Somebody designed this system thinking that 4 levels of redundancy should be enough. Sadly, it wasn't.

[@dr6063]

The human race hasn’t made it this far- we are in dire straits.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

If you watch Engineering Disasters (Modern Marvels) you'll be awake nights knowing that ALL major, nasty accidents are caused by a few little stupid things at the same time. And a lack of redundancy...(meaning it causes serious, fatal failures)

[@Sunshine74444]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 It is really scary.

[@Eskimo_iio]

The pitot tube is a very important part of the aircraft. A simple clog in your car can cause mechanical failure as well. Those engineers accomplished more for society than you ever will. Stop being an idiot.

[@feoysabroso]

I heard the actual tape of the black box, it's on KZbin, in Spanish... You can hear the desperation in the 1st officer's voice when he says "we're impacting water" and then... Nothing... RIP to all of them.

[@sashasavisha146]

I have worked at the airport and seen pilots do a post-flight and pre-flight walk around of their aircraft. Now I know something they could be looking for. Tape covering the static ports. It’s harder to see things at night too. This was a little thing that ended up costing many lives. A tragic mistake by a human.

[@wildgr33n]

yeaaaaaaaaaaa you'd think they'd use some reflective tape so you could easily see it at night.

[@DonnaBrooks]

6:08 I've never piloted a plane but I gotta say that leaving those lights behind & heading out over that black void feels ominous & frightening, even watching it on a screen in the safety of my room. I can't imagine the feeling I'd have in the cockpit with all those alarms going off & flying blind, not knowing my speed or altitude.

[@TheMichaeveli]

So chilling.

[@jillianbruce6143]

I thought the exact same thing, adding a few "NO, go back!"s & "Hey, IT'S DARK out there!"s!!!

[@agarcia3986]

Better to crash over the water rather than risk even more casualties on land. It’s a smart move until you can troubleshoot the problem.

[@ExestentialCrisis]

@@agarcia3986 I get staying over the water, but why not stay just off the coast where you can see the lights and give yourself the visual reference of altitude when you can't rely on your instruments. The pitch black made it worse.

[@triciac1019]

I was in a four seater and the guy I was dating at the time was a pilot. We got into the air and it was almost pitch black. There were mountains in front of us, and he was instrument trained/licensed. He took a look at how dark everything was and flew us back to the airport. We were all happy with that decision. It was scary.

[@srilankanflyer1999]

Been watching ACI for 15 years and it's good to see more and more people enjoying these classics!!

[@susiearviso3032]

You and me both, Sri.

[@penyarol83]

Idk if “enjoying” is the word for it, but yes

[@srilankanflyer1999]

@@penyarol83 i get what u mean but im referring to the production.

[@sushiljoshi2326]

Same here. Who are we people like to watch these catastrophic airplane events?

[@soukaryasamanta8073]

@@sushiljoshi2326 true. I haven't been on planes. And I scare myself more everytime I watch these things. But I still watch these, don't even know why.

[@CompositesNG]

R.I.P to all Souls. This documentary/Video has been an invaluable lesson to all Aircraft Maintenance Technicians.

[@hlowrylong]

In my opinion, this is the best Mayday episode of all time. (The only drawback was that Greg Feith was not on the NTSB team, as I find him dreamy.) This accident encapsulated everything - flying at night, no visual clues, the madness of man versus machine, and how the smallest human mistake can prove devastating. Those who perished did not die without meaning, as that terrible mistake was found, studied, & will not happen again. God Bless those souls, their families, & loved ones. 🙏🏼

[@isabellind1292]

The actors playing the roles of the pilots are always so believable. What a terrible tragedy. And you are spot on about Mr. Feith...he's is so smart and so handsome and I think he's dreamy too!

[@hlowrylong]

@@isabellind1292 Ahh, another Feith Fan … 😍. Even Mr. Feith’s voice is dreamy …😜

[@isabellind1292]

@@hlowrylong Oh yes! 💓🥰💓 😊👍👍

[@gizmo8361]

@@isabellind1292 same here 😻

[@MrMustangMan]

me too 🤣

[@elmerbefuddled2156]

These videos are terrifying but they're also exceptional pilot training tools. Really humanizes the urgency of properly handling plane emergencies, vs just studying textbook solutions or managing simulator mishaps. Unfortunately there was no training for ground crew carelessness like this.

[@animula6908]

This episode scared me when I was younger. I was trying to watch it while alone at night and it was the one with the (better) narrator with an American accent and really spooky voice. These pilots really went above and beyond, along with atc. All that contradictory info in the dark sky, this one is haunting.

[@muslimcel4581]

That first season of air crash investigation will always be my favourite

[@joanneanderson6535]

This crash makes me never want to fly at night. At least the visual of day might have helped.

[@TheMichaeveli]

Yup, this is a reminder not to fly at night. 😳

[@gorillaau]

Or fly at night and if the worse happens, you won't see the ground racing up to meet you.

[@aboriginalrocks]

It seems like I've been watching these air crash type shows for the last 30 years, and I'm still not bored with them. Keep 'em coming!

[@foxracing8973]

Reminds me of the episode about Helios 522 flight. SPOILERS: That one ultimately crashed all bc one maintenance man forget to turn 1 switch in the cockpit back to the setting/position it was supposed to be in. Very heartbreaking how even the smallest mistake can lead to such a huge tragedy..

[@franziskani]

No - even IF he forgot (and we have to take Boeings word for it that the high energy impact could have impossibly moved the switch position- this one task at the end of the night shift and end of the checklist was only one of the earlier mishaps in the chain of events. IF the switch was indeed on the wrong position, there were still several occasions to rectify the situation. And some of the missed opportunities are mind boggling. How could they ... (or could they not ...) ?? !! It should be noted that Boeing had a major bias to assume (and find) that the switch must have been on OFF when the flight started (cabin pressure matters only in higher altitudes). And that is even IF they would be honest actors. Judging from the well known company policy to blame somebody - anybody - unless denial is no more option we can safely assume that Boeing would intentionally LIE about such an issue. See their criminal behavior regarding 737 MAX only a few years later. If the cabin pressure (after a correctly done repair) was still a problem (and it had nothing to do with the switch being on Off instead of Automatic) then it would not have looked good for Boeing. The plane was not that old, and cabin pressurization is a crucial function. And if proper repair does not help ... In that scenario (switch correct, all checks performed correctly) we would also need to assume a slow loss of pressure, the first check for the switch position is included in the checklist before the start. A second check of various instrument readings regarding pressure, rate of change of pressure etc. is made during climb. If they did that 2nd check correctly (no audio was available) it would indicate that the loss of pressure did not happen fast - or they would have noticed during the routine check.. One problem was also that the warning for cabin pressure loss was ambigious. But maybe they should have known (because the company trained them !!) It was the master warning sound, but when on the ground that sound means one (important) problem and when the plane is already in the air it means something else (pressure loss warning). So they did not interpret the warning sound correctly - that can have been also lack of proper training by the airline (that they did not know or remember that this sound could mean 2 completely different failures. Both pilots seem to have associated it only with the ground scenario and that failure only happens during start - so they assumed this was a bogus warning. In the cabin the masks for passengers fell down, crew also has mobile oxygen tanks. They assumed of course that the pilots KNEW that the passenger masks were down. No they didn't - and therefore did not put on their masks. Pilots have better masks, much longer supply (and extra tanks) but they do not fall down, no space for that in the cockpit. Cabin crew are expected to instruct and help passengers, then to sit down with fastened seat belts and let the pilots organize the descent and communication with air control for a soon landing. In lower altitude oxygen supply is no problem, so the cabin does not need to be pressurized. Crew would wait for a few minutes, and the plane would descend to a safe altitude. However - the pilots never realized that there was such a problem, they were busy trouble shooting warnings they found confusing / spurious. Maybe both were already impacted by lack of oxygen (it creeps in, and a sitting passenger's brain needs less oxygen than that of a trouble shooting, slightly stressed pilot). When the pilots did not make an announcement after a few minutes and the plane ALSO did not descend - crew should have called the cockpit. People get dumb fast in that state, but they do not lose consciousness immediately. Crew could have startled pilots into opening the door or into using their masks, with a few minutes of good oxygen supply they would have been fit to land the plane. The masks for passengers provide oxygen for 12 - 15 minutes. That is plenty of time to descend to a safe altitude, but not when the pilots are unconscious or are getting more and more affected - and not when cabin crew sits in the cabin waiting and waiting. Normally crew has a special code that they can enter to get inside the cockpit (despite 9/11 closed door policy).

[@petra7158]

the most chilling thing is the lima controller's calls to 603 at 29:08 not being answered

[@efulmer8675]

I know. His walk to the window and removing his glasses hurts, and then when he talks to the Investigator, he's agitated. Even though it's just a reenactment, it hurts. The one that kills me though is the 2002 Uberlingen ATC reenactment (S2E4 "Deadly Crossroads"), where he watches two markers move closer and closer together, merge, then both blink out one at a time. His scream of pain hurts my soul.

[@salenakirkwood3109]

The controller was played by Pat Mastroianni in this one, I'm not surprised he conveyed the real anguish so well!

[@bkgdnoize111]

@@salenakirkwood3109 I thought it looked like him... wow!!

[@reynaldo5378]

After watching some of these plane crashes and near misses, I've come to the conclusion that flying at night is not a very good idea. Even this disabled plane could have had a chance of landing had not been for the fact that because it was nighttime the pilots were not able to see they were flying dangerously low over the sea and when they did it was too late.

[@riverraisin1]

I know, but I can save $20 by flying the red eye. 🥴

[@sixstanger00]

If they had turned on the plane's landing lights, they would've been able to see shimmering on the waves. I realize it's an unorthodox move, but while watching I was thinking to myself - if a warning kept insisting I was flying too low, I would find some way of visually confirming. Since it's nighttime, use the plane's bright landing lights -- which are aimed downward anyway -- and either have one of the pilots or a flight attendant look out one of the windows. As the guy said though -- hindsight is 20/20; it's easy to sit in the comfort of my chair and talk about "would I would've done."

[@bobkile9734]

@@sixstanger00 I think you over estimate the light’s intensity. The lights wouldn’t have lit anything until they were 200 feet above the water. They kinda glossed over it, but the real solution was when they first saw faulty altimeter settings would be to set 60% power, and level the nose to make a slow decent, then aim over the water, and descend until 2,500 feet. At that altitude, the radio altimeter comes to life and the airspeed indicator becomes reliable. Again, hindsight is 20/20.

[@sixstanger00]

@@bobkile9734 Nose to 2500 ft? That's a pretty damn risky "troubleshoot" maneuver if you ask me. It would leave no room for error whatsoever, and if the problem were to suddenly become worse, you'd be screwed. Besides, they were already below 2500 ft and no "radio altimeter" came to life; they were low enough that banked turns put the wingtip in the drink.

[@bobkile9734]

@@sixstanger00 all airliners have radio altimeters. It is how pilots are able to tell how far from the ground they are when landing. It did give them altitude reading like it was supposed to. GPWS sounded off when it was supposed to too, and it runs off the radio altimeter.

[@Gaua1]

The dialogue in this episode is astonishingly very accurate to the real one in the CVR, and very well translated to English. I listened to the original CVR audio and these 4 words froze me: "¡Estamos impactando en agua!" (We are hitting/impacting water). RIP

[@Bleu-en2bf]

Sometimes for no reason, my electronics malfunction suddenly. It is scary to think, this can happen to airplanes as well. Rest in peace.🌿

[@AlashiaTuol]

@nono4564 Why not? Everything can malfunction.

[@mr.c5969]

@nono4564 Who are you to tell people what to think?? Back off!!

[@CAG2]

Most of the electronics of modern planes have several backup systems (this is called system redundancy). If one system fails, then another functionally equivalent one can be used.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@CAG2 except Boeing 737MAX

[@CAG2]

@@kirilmihaylov1934 that's partly correct. Boeing let airlines buy a version of the 737MAX with redundancies to prevent the MCAS from failing the way it did (from what I recall, this needs a source)

[@g__g2782]

I remember this one episode from air crash investigation where the reason this one plane crashed is because after they were cleaning the plane by spraying water from above, the sensor for altitude outside the plane were freezing in the air. They didn't even know the plane were stalling... I don't remember which flight but it's scary how one thing could create such horrible tragedy😭

[@hirudikapremaratne2034]

It was a french flight as I remember.

[@milesaway3699]

Think that was Air New Zealand? That had purchased the plane and it had been repainted. It was hosed down before the check flight and water got into the angle of attack sensors. At altitude they froze up and the jet crashed. No passengers but all the crew died.

[@dbclass4075]

XL Airways Germany Flight 888T. Season 13, Episode 8: Imperfect Pitch. Because it is relatively new, Wonder does not have license yet.

[@jonbonesmahomes7472]

@@dbclass4075 no

[@jonbonesmahomes7472]

@@milesaway3699 no

[@bloomfire1998]

What agonizes and infuriates me the most is that in every situation like this everyone searches an escape goat, one and only person to blame. Physically, logically the maintenance person was the person who stuck the tape on the sensors and forgot to take off, directly causing the crash. But is that one person to blame? No! It's the system, the way the things were done. If that maintenance person had a guideline on how to safely do their job, if they had a bright colored tape and instructions on how to use that tape to not forget to take it off, if that tape was designed so even if forgotten it would get unstuck in certain conditions, or if that tape was made with materials that let the sensors work normally. If the supervisors had trainings to know this mistake can happen and to check all sensors one by one. I don't know if there's just one person checking everything, but it must be one person per set of things to check (like one person is in charge of sensors, another person is in charge to check landing gear and etc) And the airplane must be shined with bright light for inspection, airports make a lot of money, they can afford several powerful projectors to ensure good visibility while the plane goes through final check before a flight. It's the system to blame, not an individual.

[@user-mt1sg3zg1b]

It is the crew’s fault.

[@mentallydisturbedllama473]

Very well said.

[@The-Rose-and-the-Cross]

The audio heard in Spanish, including the _estamos impactando el agua_, come from the original CVR. The whole thing is up on YT, from before takeoff to crash, and listening to it is a very tough experience.

[@camilajimenez480]

yes, they pretty much translated the cvr to recreate the entire episode

[@phxcppdvlazi]

It's horrifying.. Makes me stomach churn whenever i hear or read transcripts and sometimes they include the last distressed calls of crew or passengers

[@a.maldonado8808]

Nah word.. It hurts hearing these in English.. but in Spanish, it’s a whole different thing .

[@homemakingwisdom]

I'm glad I waited to watch these after my plane trip to Florida.

[@kakyoinp]

literally halfway the documentary, i got an ad to book a plane ticket

[@cefarther3945]

lol, roaring, got me laughing. Thanks.

[@SkyBeatSaber]

Same

[@ashleywildflower6451]

The other day I was doing a workout, and got an ad for dominoes pizza. They’ve really gotta start reading the room…

[@itachi6670]

If it would have been from AeroPeru Lmao Ded🥱

[@Roxjetlagged]

@@ashleywildflower6451 😂😂😂😂

[@susiearviso3032]

This is what I'm always saying. There is no such thing as perfection in aviation. Plane crashes will continue to happen. Human error will always be a problem. They get tired, mad, hurried, forgetful, lazy ... it will never end. Whenever humans are involved, failure is just around the corner.

[@harveylong5878]

full automation is far from flawless. look at self driving cars. took human drivers out of the equation and accidents still occured

[@jinxedpenguin]

True, but accidents are extremely rare in commercial aviation. Especially in more regulated countries.

[@sixstringedthing]

The idea is to have multiple safety systems and procedures in place such that an error or oversight by a single individual cannot put the lives of hundreds at risk. The problem with the "Swiss cheese" model is that it's often extremely difficult to predict all the various ways that failings by multiple individuals might "line up the holes" to create an unsafe situation. All we can do is plug the holes as they are discovered, often at the cost of lives.

[@TheMichaeveli]

Scary isn’t it?

[@termin8d]

The really amazing part to me is how the tape survives cruising at 10,000ft+ and 500mph+ and a crash into the ocean without tearing off. Must've been Flex Tape.

[@Kurdish.patriot]

This is so sad like the pilots didn’t wanna kill those passenger I feel so bad :(

[@gaztastic]

Birgenair Flight 301 had the same problem earlier that same year in the same type of aircraft; a Boeing 757-22X variant, carrying 189 people, 3 being pilots. It was only that they were flying too slow, and not too low, and they performed an action that stalled the plane, like the crew here (but in API603's case, the stalls were very subtle and masked by the fact that two contradictory warnings played at the same time), before one engine flamed out, and the other, running at full power, threw them into a spin. The aircraft was destroyed after it hit the water in an inverted position, just like 603, coincidentally. Sad part is, that in the real 603 CVR, the inversion and final descent happened so fast that the warning computer didn't even get to finish.

[@mortenguld3076]

Birgenair very different. Only one pitot failed, which should have been easily manageable. Here all three pitot/static systems were disabled.

[@gaztastic]

@@mortenguld3076 Even so mate, very, very similar.

[@gavinsingh4450]

@@gaztastic No, no very similar!

[@xiayabennett6982]

Very similar. Except the main catalyst that set off that chain of events was an insect the size of a paper clip.

[@mariarasmussen4951]

I have been binging these episodes the last couple of days. This is THE saddest and scariest flight disaster I have seen by far. This was so sad and so ominous and Dark at the same time. Very eerie feel to this situation with the dark night over the dark ocean. They could not even see the moonlight sparkling on the surface of the water. My heart just really goes out to those pilots especially. They didn’t stand a chance.

[@DrHarryT]

It's called "spatial disorientation." Night is an IMC condition where you rely on the instruments to know where you are at in the air and your orientation. [roll, pitch, airspeed and altitude] Without instruments you are floating in the dark abyss and become lost.

[@efulmer8675]

I always wondered why they didn't fly up and down the coastline where they could see the city lights and get a better appreciation of their altitude and airspeed.

[@MyTube4Utoo]

+DrHarryT That's not exactly true. Night flying _can be_ instrument (only) flying, just as day flight can, but you can also fly VFR at night. Regardless, any pilot should always be proficient with instruments, even if not instrument rated.

[@change_your_oil_regularly4287]

Still one of the most horrifying cockpit voice recordings I've ever heard. Tragic very sad 😔

[@squeakymonjuer]

Try flight 2256

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@squeakymonjuer what was that

[@midgie4410]

Try flight 2605

[@fishingpinky3165]

They are all horrifying...I would not want to live it..

[@3100kkeller]

This crash combines 2 of the most terrifying ways to die: a plane crash and drowning. I cannot imagine how horrifying this must have. Even for everyone involved

[@ken48229]

That must have been a long agonizing ordeal the struggle they went through in the end nothing they could do to help and save their own lives my heart goes out to them it actually hurts when I think of what they went through.

[@auburnltl7452]

Please keep these coming! I can’t find these episodes from anywhere else.

[@susiearviso3032]

I know, they have these on You Tube for money. And then we have them for nothing. Um gee ... that makes sense.

[@bernlin2000]

Truly the stuff of nightmares...and apparently the passengers or back crew members were never warned of the situation. How terrible for both the pilots and the passengers to be flying blind...

[@justinwallace390]

I place most of the blame in the airline's maintenance management. Someone has to sign off on the aircraft wash. In the U.S. Air Force we even go an extra step of having Quality Assurance (a separate dept) do a follow-up inspection checklist. Many aircraft organizations today also use the bright colored, "Remove Before Flight" streamers specifically for this reason. The last line of defense of course is the pilot walk-around.

[@rawbarbie]

What a schmuck lawyer to be smiling while describing people’s terror in the crash.

[@hurricanecamille8089]

I agree. It was disturbing to watch him speak.

[@onomichio3739]

@Marc B you cant blame the pilots, it's the maintenance that's to blame

[@ashleycraig8223]

I'm glad I'm not they only one angered by him

[@Frazzled_Chameleon]

"In the battle between man and machine, the deranged 757 was winning." It was an airplane experiencing instrument failure, not Bellatrix Lestrange.

[@xiayabennett6982]

Still a nice touch of dramacy😀

[@christermad]

Helena B Carter was my favorite actor in HP movies. A horrifying dark delight.

[@maddieb.4282]

I don’t think we’re at risk of anyone humanizing a plane lmfao

[@maritatilar6470]

The most terrifying and horrifying of all Warning that you can hear with entire of your life.. "Terrain Pull Up.. Pull up terrain."

[@adduuahmed6153]

More please . I remember this channel back in the days 2018 when there was only few thousand subscribers.

[@habun_islam]

Nice

[@soupwifey]

This channel doesn't increase my fear of flying. I'll still fly safely as I've been on planes that have been hit by lightning, hit by sudden wind shears, dropped 10K feet over Mexico due to turbulence and others and still landed safely. My aunt was an airline stewardess and she was in a plane that had an engine fall off. It steadied itself and stayed aloft. The flight stayed safe and that was in the early 80's. I still don't fear flying.

[@antoniajane5442]

I can't imagine anything more frightening than being in that cockpit. I still feel, that turning back on the first warning, would have saved this tragedy. RIP

[@christopherbako]

Evertime time I fly, I think "We don't belong this high" Not to mention, a Plane is a bomb if it drops.

[@penyarol83]

@@christopherbako same. We really don’t. It’s dangerous folly

[@efulmer8675]

@@penyarol83 Far less dangerous than driving here on the ground.

[@philosopher0076]

@@efulmer8675 But there is no control or CHANCE to assist your own outcome when flying a plane. You are a helpless, powerless victim when sitting on a plane. At least in a car, you can do something. You can stop, swerve, slow down, speed up, turn, put it in reverse, flash your headlights...you have a chance to take action to avoid death. In a plane, you are clueless and have to just sit there and take it. Complete helplessness. People don't like that.

[@efulmer8675]

@@philosopher0076 I get that, and control, I imagine, is a big aspect of people's fear of flying. But still, it is safer to fly. If only statistics could be as comforting as having your hands on the wheel.

[@jessicayal]

I remember this accident, I was only 7 and in Peru!! and it was going to be my first time flying. After watching this on the news I pretended to be brave but inside I was completely frightened and terrified

[@sunshinenbacon9448]

Man I am so addicted to these! I work in my car and literally listen to episode after episode. Now when I fly I know what to listen for and can help the pilots 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bernadettemadondo7055]

The worst moment for any ATC when there is no response from the captain and crew.

[@rickfreeman8691]

How can forgetting to remove a small piece of tape cause all this? It seems like there should be stricter rules as to how to deal with those ports

[@themobseat]

There are strict rules, but rules don't matter if people don't follow them. 😕

[@Eskimo_iio]

There are strict rules. That's why the mechanic went to prison. Did you not pay attention?

[@probanity]

2021 now. Hopefully they are strict on those now

[@cheery-hex]

@@Eskimo_iio yeah but come on. It has been stated repeatedly that one failure should NOT bring a plane down. the plane manufacturer and perhaps supervisors are more at fault

[@Eskimo_iio]

@@cheery-hex That one failure is a major failure. Plus technology and rules have evolved. That's why the majority of these documentaries are old. Maybe you should do some research or better yet go to A&P school. Or go download the FAA-8083 text books.

[@dargus1718]

I can't stop watching these videos.. why are they so good I didn't play a game for days in my freetime lol.

[@kbgp4826]

RIP...I still say if we experience one warning light...we go back and land immediately

[@Tomasquo]

@Dr. Hannibal Lester I'm with both of you guys. As soon as those altimeters failed, I would have been in a hurry to land.

[@thisisme3238]

My thoughts exactly

[@treicycarter2173]

You cannot land if youre too heavy with a full tank of gas. The plane will crash!!!

[@TetraResinstone]

Exactly

[@lovelife4u]

@@treicycarter2173 they can dump fuel

[@snailie]

Thanks a lot for uploading these classic episodes! It's been a while since I got to watch these... you're making my day!

[@Poorschedriver]

The amount of failure that needed to happen for this crash to occur is staggering. Yes the maintenance tech shouldn't have used duct tape, but what did the procedures say? Why is there not a special plug for the ports with a tangling "remove before flight" tag?

[@satori4183]

Pilots: We have faulty readings, Tower tell us the correct data! Tower: Sure thing! Wait, where do we get our data from? Ah probably not important *repeats faulty data*

[@petemitchell9996]

Also let's send a slow 707 instead of a calling a military to send a fighter jet or to use their own radars. And also let's send them further away from the coast and city lights so they can see even less in VFR.

[@samuelkundael3503]

@@petemitchell9996 my issue is that everyone knows that when you put the flight controls to idle, you start losing speed and high. These guys said that speed increased and so did their height. This is the worst logic but I understand their troubles. When your instruments fail and you lose visual cues for a second, your brain shuts down and you need a third party to help. Unfortunately the tower was of no use. I flew some Alps mission of FS amid high fog and on the mountains, my compass when berserk. For the first time I lose spatial orientation and man, it is not good. no good at all.

[@tylergirlrobinson1820]

@Satori Exactly. So sad.

[@soukaryasamanta8073]

You know, even the controller didn't realise that he gets his readings sent from the plane. He may have thought that the radar calculates altitude along with speed and distance.

[@Lucas_Tulic]

The controller didn't know the plane computer was sending faulty data. The pilots never said anything about that to him because even they didn't know, so why would he doubt the numbers shown on his radar? The minute he probably realized the numbers were wrong was when the plane was already hitting the water.

[@muppetb.lansing8374]

From a legal standpoint, it pretty interesting the families sued Boeing, in terms of negligence this is clearly an issue caused by airline maintenance, and therefore the airline.

[@Satopi3104]

The first rule of litigation - sue the deep pockets. I presume Boeing had deeper pockets than aeroperu.

[@barbarab7049]

@@Satopi3104 sad but true

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

That scum bag lawyer probably convinced them to do so. This was in no way Boeing's fault and that guy made it seem as if Boeing was the only manufacturer to use those tubes and ports. By his logic, every aircraft built with them were not safe to fly. The guy probably took half the money each client was given in settlement which is probably why they were advised to go after Boeing.

[@danielebrparish4271]

In legal matters it is always a priority to include the people with the deepest pockets as defendants.

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

Boeing built da plane. Im suin em

[@gestaposantaclaus]

This hits close to home. I’m a ramp agent and we wash planes every Monday, I see the static ports covered with tape all the time. I’m gonna be thinking about this tomorrow (it’s Sunday atm).

[@xbman1]

Maintenance workers should also have a check list.

[@brianwhittle5331]

We do, always have which are actually more detailed than the cabin/crew checklists.

[@foxtrot312]

Most important the Pilots had a pre-flight inspection too! This one of things to check

[@stephenhartford6697]

Hind sight is always 20 20. The pilot who was confidently saying he would have done this and done that he most likely would have had the same outcome

[@ixlr8677]

seems to me with those failures they should have turned around and landed with city lights as it wasent gonna get any better over a dark ocean.

[@JordanWilliams-ix2td]

I doubt that he clearly knows what he's talking about

[@rushdude90]

Yea, that pilot they mentioned was a real tool. "I would have angled the plane slightly upward and maintained speed just above cruising." I'd love to hear how he planned to do that without a working altimeter or air speed readout.

[@efulmer8675]

@@rushdude90 You could be less rude about it. Each plane has a standard throttle setting for "cruise", and if you had any landmark of any kind you could see out the window, pull back on the column until you're angled upward. If they had thought of it, an open bottle or plastic cup of water could have given a better indication of orientation. There were plenty of ways to handle this but McLeod was correct; attempting to maintain a good orientation and half or three-quarters throttle would have been the best choice.

[@CYMotorsport]

47:30 now I see where the “don’t land” insinuation came from. Surprised the captain would say this. Yes, they had made their intention known they wanted to land. But the report and transcript proves they hadnt yet made significant action against this. Meaning, their fall wasn’t a result of their desire to land regardless. It’s bc they had incorrect readings. Hence why it’s so baffling these pilots at the end are saying they’d fly by the numbers. Ironically, that’s precisely what they were doing except their numbers were fatally inaccurate. So no, you would not fly the plane as long as possible bc that’s simply not possible . 9:50 this felt needlessly harsh. The plane seems controllable 20/20 but the concept of controllable is contingent on basic flight controls. If you close your eyes and are asked to walk 1 mile and stop at the closest petrol station never opening your eyes, thats impossible. You never got a reference point. It was responsible to get the plane on the ground. Suggesting he keep wings steady with NO data and no controls and no horizon and no light is preposterous. It softly implies that decision doomed the plane. Which I, n of 1, will say flatly is absurd. Not only was there no controls which I’m sure you’ll touch on, but the relayed data from the transponder to ATC back to 603 was egregiously incorrect.

[@ImNotHere222]

Who creates the music for this show? It adds amazing atmosphere to it. I'm obsessed.

[@andrew_koala2974]

What was required here is a Military aircraft to intercept Aeroperú Flight 603 and guide it back to the airport.

[@reflectiveglasses3338]

Exactly, just goes to show you how simple these mistakes could be fixed

[@jakstorm3180]

Should have started radioing the tower immediately asking for assistance

[@X1erra]

Exactly. Had the ATC knew of the altitude misreadings, the first thing that comes to mind for me is to seek military assistance. They would have things like deployable fighter jets and night vision, anything that could guide them visually and make it their lifeline towards an emergency landing.

[@thesmellyleader8848]

⅝

[@dustysoda]

I can’t begin to imagine the fear everyone went through. My heart goes out to everyone that was affected by this tragedy. The pilots did everything they could. So sad…

[@bob_kazamakis]

I’m not sure how uploading these isn’t violating a copyright, but if you’ve got it, dump all of these because they are super interesting!

[@mattezhackblip]

Read the description. This content is licensed.

[@KlusterFux]

There's many of these videos on the "Seconds From Disaster" show. I only watch them before I'm ready to travel. You could say I'm a glutton for punishment.😏🥴

[@thebeaz1]

don't worry about it.

[@busdriversteve1137]

My commercials keep getting interrupter with a show about an airplane.

[@gizmo8361]

So sorry for all the families and friends of those lost in this terrible tragedy.

[@pyrotechnick420]

This would have been one of those times that scrambling jets to the airplane could have really helped. They could have guided the airplane back to the airport

[@al1976-v7m]

They were actually requesting that, if you listen to the original voice recording

[@GooseGumlizzard]

they did, but the. were too late. Aeroperu ATC was in the middle of sending a 707 to go find them and guide them back to land when they crashed into the water.

[@cogitoergospud1]

How can you possibly become an air traffic controller and NOT know that altitude is transmitted by the plane?

[@ereder1476]

@@NaturalBornK can you activate yoru brain and read what he juts said ? The point is: how do you not know that the radard he use is something that get info from the plane's computer instead of actual radar readings? (because of ISL)

[@romanc.5074]

@@NaturalBornK You are but take it easy brother.

[@philosopher0076]

@@NaturalBornK Be more polite? Really dude? You said " shut the f up " to the original poster on this column.

[@catface3473]

I.ve flown 2x in my life at 67...i didn't know that ...i thought airport had radar or something that they could tell your altitude...but...i do know other stuff.

[@abc-wv4in]

I don't understand how both ATC and pilots would not be instructed that ATC's altitude info comes from the plane, not from radar. This ought to be elemental in their training.

[@MarieJesne]

It is so much worse knowing that people were alive when they hit the water, prolonging their suffering even further. I hope their souls are resting in peace now.

[@winter_s_44]

Absolutely terrifying. They literally had no chance. The confusion and fear they must have experienced must have been overwhelming not understanding all of the contradictory signals and not being able to get any information from ATC. My God. 😢

[@geh3254]

With all the warnings and distractions I can't find fault with the pilots. How are you supposed to concentrate (on flying the airplane) with all that distraction. Overkill to me. The safer planes become the more complicated they are, almost full circle. What's there to protect you now becomes the cause of your doom. Pretty sad.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Designers playing with computer systems.

[@SoulDevoured]

There's ways to turn most of these off now.

[@matthewuzhere]

im not an expert on this by any means but i don’t think planes are becoming more complicated at all. in fact the bigger threat is that they’re becoming simpler, and pilots are having to put in so little input to keep the plane flying that they’re growing less attentive and responsive to issues. and i agree that we can’t fault the pilots but consider that in virtually no situation besides this one should you ever be hearing all of those warning at once. they’re supposed to be “distracting” because they want your attention. of course in this situation yeah, definitely an issue, but in most situations a warning that is basically impossible to ignore is kind of what you want

[@triciac1019]

​@@matthewuzhere you don't know if any of that is true and are purely speculating, right?

[@matthewuzhere]

@@triciac1019 i mean i literally said i wasn’t an expert, this is just info i’ve picked up from consuming a lot of content about aviation. if you are more knowledgeable than me, feel free to share.

[@legitbeans9078]

That "Too low! Terrain!" Alarm is terrifying. 😬😳

[@sushiljoshi2326]

The forgotten duct tape !! Pretty sad to know airplanes rely on just one sensor for such an important data. Even the air traffic controller was dependent on that single sensor for data, which was covered in ductz tape. Can't airplanes have atleast 2 or 3 sensors? Or even on ground can't tower use their own systems for airplanes speed and altitude data??

[@mortenguld3076]

There are three independent systems all with there own sensors. But in this case if you cover all sensors on both sides of the aircraft the outcome is the same. Unfortunately Boeing had not taken this possibility into account so there was no procedure or checklist available for this crew. Strangely almost same scenario a couple of months ago. This time the crew were trained and had a checklist (because of this accident) and were able to handle it. aviation-safety.net/wikibase/246156

[@bigjohn6405]

today, take out your phone go to maps and it will give you your speed- ground speed, not air speed, but should be helpful

[@kevinduprey9326]

What kind of DUCT TAKE!!??? For God sake, I can't get mine to Stick in colder weather? This stuff went 10k feet in air and into ocean and still sticking? Something stinks....

[@Sariah]

What a horrible death they suffered. That was the worst part.

[@saquoiafighter]

While it is easy to sit in the comfort of our chairs and give advice based on us knowing what the accident's cause was, I can't help but wonder how the pilots thought that the overspeed warning was true when the engines were at idle for a long time and even the air brakes were deployed.

[@vmarie24]

I can't wrap my brain around how this could happen! There needs to be check lists and recheck list and then sign off signature and then you can take off! No shortcuts!!

[@cheery-hex]

Agree!

[@riverraisin1]

There is, as indicated in this video. But things like that get pencil whipped by lazy people.

[@cd72]

The guy in the tower is Canadian actor and Gemini Award Winner Pat Mastrioni from the hit tv show DEGRASSI from the mid 1980s to the early 1990's in Canada....

[@lisamarie5540]

Every time I saw him I had the Zit Remedy song in my head. I loved Joey

[@Ttcopp12rt]

Drake??

[@efulmer8675]

That explains why he's so good. His performance is wonderfully horrifying.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@efulmer8675 agreed

[@techhelpportal7778]

That's why this is called a wait for it Rennacment